Barbecue (alt.food.barbecue) Discuss barbecue and grilling--southern style "low and slow" smoking of ribs, shoulders and briskets, as well as direct heat grilling of everything from burgers to salmon to vegetables.

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I have the old style Weber Genesis (with 2 rows of "flavorizer" bars). Last
year, I bought the Weber Steam 'N Chips smoker accessory. I've had little
luck, except at pretty high temperatures (350 +) in getting the thing to
emit ANY smoke. And 350 is way higher than the low temp cooking I'm
gravitating towards.

Weber's Hotline advisors have told me everything from "soak the wood chips
in water before putting them in the smoker box," to "don't soak the chips at
all." Neither seems to work at low temps (below 300).

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Alan


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You can get good smoke from a Weber Genesis by just throwing a chunk of wood
on the back flavorizer bar during heat-up. It will smoke for 30 minutes or
so during your cook, which is enough to give good flavor.

I haven't used the product, but for the Steam-n-Chips, you probably need to
get the chips up to temp to get the smoking started by having them in the
smoker box and setting the burners to H-H-H- for 10 minutes or so to
preheat. Once they start smoking, you can then cook at 300-350 or so and
they should smoke for some amount of time.

"AlanRab" > wrote in message
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> I have the old style Weber Genesis (with 2 rows of "flavorizer" bars).
Last
> year, I bought the Weber Steam 'N Chips smoker accessory. I've had little
> luck, except at pretty high temperatures (350 +) in getting the thing to
> emit ANY smoke. And 350 is way higher than the low temp cooking I'm
> gravitating towards.
>
> Weber's Hotline advisors have told me everything from "soak the wood chips
> in water before putting them in the smoker box," to "don't soak the chips

at
> all." Neither seems to work at low temps (below 300).
>
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> Alan
>
>



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> You can get good smoke from a Weber Genesis by just throwing a chunk of

wood
> on the back flavorizer bar during heat-up. It will smoke for 30 minutes

or
> so during your cook, which is enough to give good flavor.
>
> I haven't used the product, but for the Steam-n-Chips, you probably need

to
> get the chips up to temp to get the smoking started by having them in the
> smoker box and setting the burners to H-H-H- for 10 minutes or so to
> preheat. Once they start smoking, you can then cook at 300-350 or so and
> they should smoke for some amount of time.


Do you or others recommend wet or dry chips? I always preheat at H-H-H for
15 minutes, but that doesn't consistently give smoke. Thanks for your ideas.


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"CSS" > wrote in message
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> You can get good smoke from a Weber Genesis by just throwing a chunk of

wood
> on the back flavorizer bar during heat-up. It will smoke for 30 minutes

or
> so during your cook, which is enough to give good flavor.
>
> I haven't used the product, but for the Steam-n-Chips, you probably need

to
> get the chips up to temp to get the smoking started by having them in the
> smoker box and setting the burners to H-H-H- for 10 minutes or so to
> preheat. Once they start smoking, you can then cook at 300-350 or so and
> they should smoke for some amount of time.


Do you or others recommend wet or dry chips? I always preheat at H-H-H for
15 minutes, but that doesn't consistently give smoke. Thanks for your ideas.


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Paul
 
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In article >,
"AlanRab" > wrote:

> I have the old style Weber Genesis (with 2 rows of "flavorizer" bars). Last
> year, I bought the Weber Steam 'N Chips smoker accessory. I've had little
> luck, except at pretty high temperatures (350 +) in getting the thing to
> emit ANY smoke. And 350 is way higher than the low temp cooking I'm
> gravitating towards.


Same here, new Weber Genesis. Last weekend we abandoned the smoker box
and wrapped the soaked chips in aluminimum foil. Shaped like a log,
with the ends open. Placed it right on the back vaporizer bar. It made
a little smoke, not much.

I'm going to try the suggestion of just placing a soaked chunk right on
the vaporizer bar. Maybe it'll get hot enough then.

We're also considering getting the Weber Smokey Mountain w/the rebate on
amazon.com and using that for butts, ribs and brisket. We'd continue to
use our Genesis for hamburgers, hot dogs and chicken.


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Paul
 
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In article >,
"AlanRab" > wrote:

> I have the old style Weber Genesis (with 2 rows of "flavorizer" bars). Last
> year, I bought the Weber Steam 'N Chips smoker accessory. I've had little
> luck, except at pretty high temperatures (350 +) in getting the thing to
> emit ANY smoke. And 350 is way higher than the low temp cooking I'm
> gravitating towards.


Same here, new Weber Genesis. Last weekend we abandoned the smoker box
and wrapped the soaked chips in aluminimum foil. Shaped like a log,
with the ends open. Placed it right on the back vaporizer bar. It made
a little smoke, not much.

I'm going to try the suggestion of just placing a soaked chunk right on
the vaporizer bar. Maybe it'll get hot enough then.

We're also considering getting the Weber Smokey Mountain w/the rebate on
amazon.com and using that for butts, ribs and brisket. We'd continue to
use our Genesis for hamburgers, hot dogs and chicken.
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Paul
 
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Vern > wrote:

> That would be a great way to go. That's what I do. Large meats
> suitable for smoking on the WSM'S and the rest on my genisis Silver C
> or Kettle one touch gold.


We've decided to get WSM to complement our Weber Genesis.

Now...what type of fuel is recommnded? I hope it's something easily
obtainable.

Cleanup? What's your maintenance routine? Do you empty the ashes each
time? How about cleaning the cooking surface? Any advice is
appreciated!
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In article >,
Vern > wrote:

> That would be a great way to go. That's what I do. Large meats
> suitable for smoking on the WSM'S and the rest on my genisis Silver C
> or Kettle one touch gold.


We've decided to get WSM to complement our Weber Genesis.

Now...what type of fuel is recommnded? I hope it's something easily
obtainable.

Cleanup? What's your maintenance routine? Do you empty the ashes each
time? How about cleaning the cooking surface? Any advice is
appreciated!
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Dave Bugg
 
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Paul wrote:

> We've decided to get WSM to complement our Weber Genesis.


Great!! Like a saw compliments a monkey wrench, each tool is designed to do
something different.

> Now...what type of fuel is recommnded? I hope it's something easily
> obtainable.


That is nicely covered in the BBQ FAQ:
http://www.eaglequest.com/~bbq/faq2/toc.html

> Cleanup? What's your maintenance routine? Do you empty the ashes
> each time? How about cleaning the cooking surface? Any advice is
> appreciated!


Rule one: You can't BBQ and be anal at the same time. Empty your ashes when
it looks like its needed, and let the heat burn off the crud from the grill.
Outside of a quick brushing, I don't do anything special.


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Paul wrote:

> We've decided to get WSM to complement our Weber Genesis.


Congratulations on your impending purchase!

> Now...what type of fuel is recommnded? I hope it's something easily
> obtainable.


If you want easily obtainable, that'd be charcoal briquettes like
Kingsford. I myself refuse to allow that into my WSM, preferring lump
charcoal instead. There are many brands available, but what you get
depends on where you are. In the San Jose Bay Area, you can find lots
of mesquite lump charcoal but I use Lazzarri hardwood (oak) lump.

> Cleanup? What's your maintenance routine? Do you empty the ashes each
> time? How about cleaning the cooking surface? Any advice is
> appreciated!


Briquettes produce much more ash than lump so if you go that route,
you'll be dumping ash after every cook. I can go three or four cooks on
lump before I have to clean out the ash. I normally leave the grates in
the cooker during the heating up phase and clean them off with a brass
bristled brush right before putting on the meat. Other than that, I
haven't cleaned off any of the "seasoning" that's building up on the
inside of the cooker. Just now noticing how some of that is flaking off.

Read the FAQ and visit the Virtual Weber Bullet site for more tips.

--
Aloha,

Nathan Lau
San Jose, CA

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Paul wrote:

> We've decided to get WSM to complement our Weber Genesis.


Congratulations on your impending purchase!

> Now...what type of fuel is recommnded? I hope it's something easily
> obtainable.


If you want easily obtainable, that'd be charcoal briquettes like
Kingsford. I myself refuse to allow that into my WSM, preferring lump
charcoal instead. There are many brands available, but what you get
depends on where you are. In the San Jose Bay Area, you can find lots
of mesquite lump charcoal but I use Lazzarri hardwood (oak) lump.

> Cleanup? What's your maintenance routine? Do you empty the ashes each
> time? How about cleaning the cooking surface? Any advice is
> appreciated!


Briquettes produce much more ash than lump so if you go that route,
you'll be dumping ash after every cook. I can go three or four cooks on
lump before I have to clean out the ash. I normally leave the grates in
the cooker during the heating up phase and clean them off with a brass
bristled brush right before putting on the meat. Other than that, I
haven't cleaned off any of the "seasoning" that's building up on the
inside of the cooker. Just now noticing how some of that is flaking off.

Read the FAQ and visit the Virtual Weber Bullet site for more tips.

--
Aloha,

Nathan Lau
San Jose, CA

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Paul wrote:
> We've decided to get WSM to complement our Weber Genesis.


Good choice for a smoker. Only negative is it don't have a bunch of
capacity.

> Now...what type of fuel is recommnded? I hope it's something easily
> obtainable.


Lump charcoal. Lots of folks use Royal Oak cuz you can get it thru
your local (if ya have one) Do It Best Hardware store. Visit
www.doitbest.com to find your nearest store.

> Cleanup? What's your maintenance routine? Do you empty the ashes
> each time? How about cleaning the cooking surface? Any advice is
> appreciated!


Maintenance routine?!?! Ya don't need one. Dump the ashes when ya
need to keep good airflow. 'Bout every other cook. Make sure what
lump you didn't burn up the last time is saved to use again. Clean
your cookin grates with a good wire brush when ya fire the WSM up for
a cook. What don't come off will cook off and turn to grit that the
wire brush will take care of.

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-frohe
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Paul wrote:
> We've decided to get WSM to complement our Weber Genesis.


Good choice for a smoker. Only negative is it don't have a bunch of
capacity.

> Now...what type of fuel is recommnded? I hope it's something easily
> obtainable.


Lump charcoal. Lots of folks use Royal Oak cuz you can get it thru
your local (if ya have one) Do It Best Hardware store. Visit
www.doitbest.com to find your nearest store.

> Cleanup? What's your maintenance routine? Do you empty the ashes
> each time? How about cleaning the cooking surface? Any advice is
> appreciated!


Maintenance routine?!?! Ya don't need one. Dump the ashes when ya
need to keep good airflow. 'Bout every other cook. Make sure what
lump you didn't burn up the last time is saved to use again. Clean
your cookin grates with a good wire brush when ya fire the WSM up for
a cook. What don't come off will cook off and turn to grit that the
wire brush will take care of.

--
-frohe
Life is too short to be in a hurry


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In article >,
"Dave Bugg" <deebuggatcharterdotnet> wrote:

> Rule one: You can't BBQ and be anal at the same time. Empty your ashes when
> it looks like its needed, and let the heat burn off the crud from the grill.
> Outside of a quick brushing, I don't do anything special.


I know what you mean. Thanks, all, for the advice. A WSM and lump
charcoal it will be.
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In article >,
"Dave Bugg" <deebuggatcharterdotnet> wrote:

> Rule one: You can't BBQ and be anal at the same time. Empty your ashes when
> it looks like its needed, and let the heat burn off the crud from the grill.
> Outside of a quick brushing, I don't do anything special.


I know what you mean. Thanks, all, for the advice. A WSM and lump
charcoal it will be.


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Paul wrote:

> I know what you mean. Thanks, all, for the advice. A WSM and lump
> charcoal it will be.


It will work well for you, Paul. :-)


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Paul wrote:

> I know what you mean. Thanks, all, for the advice. A WSM and lump
> charcoal it will be.


It will work well for you, Paul. :-)


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Paul wrote:
> In article >,
> Vern > wrote:
>
>> That would be a great way to go. That's what I do. Large meats
>> suitable for smoking on the WSM'S and the rest on my genisis Silver C
>> or Kettle one touch gold.

>
> We've decided to get WSM to complement our Weber Genesis.
>
> Now...what type of fuel is recommnded? I hope it's something easily
> obtainable.
>
> Cleanup? What's your maintenance routine? Do you empty the ashes each
> time? How about cleaning the cooking surface? Any advice is
> appreciated!


All you ever wanted to know about lump charcoal, and more.
http://www.nakedwhiz.com/lumpindexpage.htm?bag

And a little fun about Kingsford:
http://www.nakedwhiz.com/kingsfrd.htm


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