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I have just had a batch of Riesling go all H2S on me, and I can't
figure out why. Any help would be appreciated - I used 150 lbs of ripe grapes, with just a touch of botrytis (no fuzzy grapes, though), from a local vineyard, who also grow for local commercial wineries. They claim that their pest control process only uses Sulfur prior to bud-break, 3 applications total. I got the grapes on a Friday, crushed them that afternoon, and let them sit on their skins overnight (14 hours total). 15 gallons of must, measuring 20 brix, .62 TA, 3.1 pH (that last might be off, I'm having trouble with my pH meter :-)). No sugar or acid adjustment. Added 15 campden tablets, and mixed as well as I could. Pressed in the morning, getting 6 gal free run, and 4.5 gal pressed juice, keeping them separate. Brought up each to 50ppm sulfite. Started the yeast later that day, using two strains from Morebeer.com (QA23 and RHST), neither one being Montrachet, nor implicated in H2S production before that I know of. The RHST started better than the QA23, such that I stole a little of the float of the RHST to boost the QA23. They ran for about a day and a half without problems, then suddenly instead of a brown yeast cap, I suddenly had a white cap and a heavy rotten egg smell. It's at 16 Brix, and the sulfite level went down to about 25ppm. Following one of the books I have, I've now bubbly-racked them both twice, and there is virtually no sludge on either of them. The smell is still there, and strong. If you blow the smell away, the juice tastes good. I'm afraid that it's probably a loss at this point. sigh... However, any ideas on what to do to avoid this in the future? I'd be glad to answer any questions anyone has if it'll help figure out the problem. |
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The next step is to rack through copper. Get a length of 1/2 inch
copper tubing from a hardware store and ream out the inside with sandpaper to remove any resin coating. Rack through this tube slowly with lots of aeration, then bring the sulfite levels up again. Alternatively, get a copper pot scrubber and rack through that. This technique saved a batch of mourvedre that had developed disulfides, the next stage after H2S. It smelled like an onion field, but racking through copper did the trick. You should do the copper racking as soon as you can--today!--to prevent it from developing disulfides. Rob wrote: > I have just had a batch of Riesling go all H2S on me, and I can't > figure out why. Any help would be appreciated - > > I used 150 lbs of ripe grapes, with just a touch of botrytis (no fuzzy > grapes, though), from a local vineyard, who also grow for local > commercial wineries. They claim that their pest control process only > uses Sulfur prior to bud-break, 3 applications total. I got the > grapes on a Friday, crushed them that afternoon, and let them sit on > their skins overnight (14 hours total). 15 gallons of must, measuring > 20 brix, .62 TA, 3.1 pH (that last might be off, I'm having trouble > with my pH meter :-)). No sugar or acid adjustment. Added 15 campden > tablets, and mixed as well as I could. Pressed in the morning, > getting 6 gal free run, and 4.5 gal pressed juice, keeping them > separate. Brought up each to 50ppm sulfite. > > Started the yeast later that day, using two strains from Morebeer.com > (QA23 and RHST), neither one being Montrachet, nor implicated in H2S > production before that I know of. The RHST started better than the > QA23, such that I stole a little of the float of the RHST to boost the > QA23. They ran for about a day and a half without problems, then > suddenly instead of a brown yeast cap, I suddenly had a white cap and > a heavy rotten egg smell. It's at 16 Brix, and the sulfite level went > down to about 25ppm. > > Following one of the books I have, I've now bubbly-racked them both > twice, and there is virtually no sludge on either of them. The smell > is still there, and strong. If you blow the smell away, the juice > tastes good. I'm afraid that it's probably a loss at this point. > sigh... > > However, any ideas on what to do to avoid this in the future? I'd be > glad to answer any questions anyone has if it'll help figure out the > problem. -- ernie San Francisco Bay AVA California, USA to reply, rack off the lees. |
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The next step is to rack through copper. Get a length of 1/2 inch
copper tubing from a hardware store and ream out the inside with sandpaper to remove any resin coating. Rack through this tube slowly with lots of aeration, then bring the sulfite levels up again. Alternatively, get a copper pot scrubber and rack through that. This technique saved a batch of mourvedre that had developed disulfides, the next stage after H2S. It smelled like an onion field, but racking through copper did the trick. You should do the copper racking as soon as you can--today!--to prevent it from developing disulfides. Rob wrote: > I have just had a batch of Riesling go all H2S on me, and I can't > figure out why. Any help would be appreciated - > > I used 150 lbs of ripe grapes, with just a touch of botrytis (no fuzzy > grapes, though), from a local vineyard, who also grow for local > commercial wineries. They claim that their pest control process only > uses Sulfur prior to bud-break, 3 applications total. I got the > grapes on a Friday, crushed them that afternoon, and let them sit on > their skins overnight (14 hours total). 15 gallons of must, measuring > 20 brix, .62 TA, 3.1 pH (that last might be off, I'm having trouble > with my pH meter :-)). No sugar or acid adjustment. Added 15 campden > tablets, and mixed as well as I could. Pressed in the morning, > getting 6 gal free run, and 4.5 gal pressed juice, keeping them > separate. Brought up each to 50ppm sulfite. > > Started the yeast later that day, using two strains from Morebeer.com > (QA23 and RHST), neither one being Montrachet, nor implicated in H2S > production before that I know of. The RHST started better than the > QA23, such that I stole a little of the float of the RHST to boost the > QA23. They ran for about a day and a half without problems, then > suddenly instead of a brown yeast cap, I suddenly had a white cap and > a heavy rotten egg smell. It's at 16 Brix, and the sulfite level went > down to about 25ppm. > > Following one of the books I have, I've now bubbly-racked them both > twice, and there is virtually no sludge on either of them. The smell > is still there, and strong. If you blow the smell away, the juice > tastes good. I'm afraid that it's probably a loss at this point. > sigh... > > However, any ideas on what to do to avoid this in the future? I'd be > glad to answer any questions anyone has if it'll help figure out the > problem. -- ernie San Francisco Bay AVA California, USA to reply, rack off the lees. |
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