The local winery shop is ordering another seven gallon carboy for me.

As I've been reading, however, I'm wondering if this is the right size.
For six gallon batches, should I be using six gallons instead?
Will six gallons take a six gallong carboy to its neck?

And while I'm at it, is there a good source if I'm willing to order a
half dozen or so at once? They're about $20 locally.

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A 7 gal carboy is good for a 6 gal wine during fermentation, since there is
CO2 gassing off. If you happen to use a 7 gal carboy as your primary, then
that extra space gives you room for foaming. When fermentations ceases, then
you'll want a carboy that fills up into the neck, so you won't be aging your
wine on a lot of air.

Having the exact size container(s) to suit your exact volume of wine, rack
after rack after rack, can be frustrating.

"Dr. Richard E. Hawkins" > wrote in message
...
> The local winery shop is ordering another seven gallon carboy for me.
>
> As I've been reading, however, I'm wondering if this is the right size.
> For six gallon batches, should I be using six gallons instead?
> Will six gallons take a six gallong carboy to its neck?
>
> And while I'm at it, is there a good source if I'm willing to order a
> half dozen or so at once? They're about $20 locally.
>
> hawk
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Yes, 7 gal would work fine during fermentation but you need a variety of
sizes. If you are going to have a number of carboys you should have a
variety of sizes. Some 5 and 6's should be mixed in. And some 1's and
1/2's to handle the in-between sizes. It makes like a lot easier to have
the right sizes.

Ray

"Daniel_B" > wrote in message
.. .
> A 7 gal carboy is good for a 6 gal wine during fermentation, since there
is
> CO2 gassing off. If you happen to use a 7 gal carboy as your primary, then
> that extra space gives you room for foaming. When fermentations ceases,
then
> you'll want a carboy that fills up into the neck, so you won't be aging
your
> wine on a lot of air.
>
> Having the exact size container(s) to suit your exact volume of wine, rack
> after rack after rack, can be frustrating.
>
> "Dr. Richard E. Hawkins" > wrote in message
> ...
> > The local winery shop is ordering another seven gallon carboy for me.
> >
> > As I've been reading, however, I'm wondering if this is the right size.
> > For six gallon batches, should I be using six gallons instead?
> > Will six gallons take a six gallong carboy to its neck?
> >
> > And while I'm at it, is there a good source if I'm willing to order a
> > half dozen or so at once? They're about $20 locally.
> >
> > hawk
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> campaign
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"Dr. Richard E. Hawkins" > wrote in message
...
> Will six gallons take a six gallong carboy to its neck?
>
No, it takes it part way up the shoulder. Too much headspace for storage.
Carboys vary slightly in exact capacity but it generally takes a little over
a bottle's worth above the 6 gallon (23 liter) mark to get the level within
an inch of the bung.

Brian

On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 12:10:37 -0600, "Brian Lundeen" >
wrote:

>
>"Dr. Richard E. Hawkins" > wrote in message
...
>> Will six gallons take a six gallong carboy to its neck?
>>
>No, it takes it part way up the shoulder. Too much headspace for storage.
>Carboys vary slightly in exact capacity but it generally takes a little over
>a bottle's worth above the 6 gallon (23 liter) mark to get the level within
>an inch of the bung.
>
>Brian
>

I did some measurements on the carboys I have and came up with the
following (hoping I didn't make any mistakes):

5 gallon carboy = 21.0 liters 5.55 gallons
6 gallon carboy = 24.4 liters 6.45 gallons
6 ½ gallon carboy = 28.25 liters 7.46 gallons

hth

art

(Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) wrote in message >...

> And while I'm at it, is there a good source if I'm willing to order a
> half dozen or so at once? They're about $20 locally.
>
> hawk

Hawk, if you can handle 5 gallon glass carboys, call your local
bottled water company and ask if they can get some used "5 gallon
glass bottles" for you. Don't ask for "carboys." They don't know
what that is.

Anyway, used carboys go for about $7 locally.

bb

Really? In our area, water companies have not used glass in over 15 years.
That is why the price has gone up so much. I use to get them for under $2.
Are there some that do elsewhere?
"William" > wrote in message
om...
> (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) wrote in message
>...
>
> > And while I'm at it, is there a good source if I'm willing to order a
> > half dozen or so at once? They're about $20 locally.
> >
> > hawk
>
> Hawk, if you can handle 5 gallon glass carboys, call your local
> bottled water company and ask if they can get some used "5 gallon
> glass bottles" for you. Don't ask for "carboys." They don't know
> what that is.
>
> Anyway, used carboys go for about $7 locally.
>
> bb

In article >,
William > wrote:
(Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) wrote in message
>...

>> And while I'm at it, is there a good source if I'm willing to order a
>> half dozen or so at once? They're about $20 locally.

>Hawk, if you can handle 5 gallon glass carboys, call your local
>bottled water company and ask if they can get some used "5 gallon
>glass bottles" for you. Don't ask for "carboys." They don't know
>what that is.

around here?

*giggle*

>Anyway, used carboys go for about $7 locally.

I used to pay about that when I was in Vegas. They just don't seem to
be available around here . . .

In fact, in nearly five years here, I have yet to see a water truck . . .

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(Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) wrote in message >...
> In article >,
> William > wrote:
> (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) wrote in message
> >...
>
> >> And while I'm at it, is there a good source if I'm willing to order a
> >> half dozen or so at once? They're about $20 locally.
>
> >Hawk, if you can handle 5 gallon glass carboys, call your local
> >bottled water company and ask if they can get some used "5 gallon
> >glass bottles" for you. Don't ask for "carboys." They don't know
> >what that is.
>
> around here?
>
> *giggle*
>
> >Anyway, used carboys go for about $7 locally.
>
> I used to pay about that when I was in Vegas. They just don't seem to
> be available around here . . .
>
> In fact, in nearly five years here, I have yet to see a water truck . . .
>
> hawk

Hawk, then my information is only useful to me. Sorry to bother you. Billy

In article >,
William > wrote:
(Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) wrote in message
>...
>> In article >,
>> William > wrote:

>> >Hawk, if you can handle 5 gallon glass carboys, call your local
>> >bottled water company and ask if they can get some used "5 gallon
>> >glass bottles" for you. Don't ask for "carboys." They don't know
>> >what that is.

>> around here?

>> *giggle*

>> >Anyway, used carboys go for about $7 locally.

>> I used to pay about that when I was in Vegas. They just don't seem to
>> be available around here . . .

>> In fact, in nearly five years here, I have yet to see a water truck . . .

>Hawk, then my information is only useful to me. Sorry to bother you. Billy

It's useful in lots of towns--but not in the boonies . . .

hawk

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Richard,
I go a different route which many here dealing in 5 to 10 gallon batches
probably also do. I have 187ml, 375ml and 750mls on hand to take anything
that overflows a "23l" carboy. I do admittedly have about 10 extra bottles
and airlocks in the ageing process at any one time but I also always know
that I am never consuming more than one glass of the unfinished wine before
its time. And I also use only 5 gallon carboys.

Oh, and yes, I think your anti-HTML campaign would work best if the ASCII
chars lined up in both fixed width and variable texts. Ahhhh, but that is
the bane of ASCII, no?!?!? (different newsgroup readers, etc.) LOL...


Patrick


"Dr. Richard E. Hawkins" > wrote in message
...
> The local winery shop is ordering another seven gallon carboy for me.
>
> As I've been reading, however, I'm wondering if this is the right size.
> For six gallon batches, should I be using six gallons instead?
> Will six gallons take a six gallong carboy to its neck?
>
> And while I'm at it, is there a good source if I'm willing to order a
> half dozen or so at once? They're about $20 locally.
>
> hawk
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In article >,
Patrick McDonald > wrote:
>Richard,
>I go a different route which many here dealing in 5 to 10 gallon batches
>probably also do. I have 187ml, 375ml and 750mls on hand to take anything
>that overflows a "23l" carboy. I do admittedly have about 10 extra bottles
>and airlocks in the ageing process at any one time but I also always know
>that I am never consuming more than one glass of the unfinished wine before
>its time. And I also use only 5 gallon carboys.

Hmm, or I could just bottle 3 bottles or so early. Now I need to find
half gallon glass jugs . . .

>Oh, and yes, I think your anti-HTML campaign would work best if the ASCII
>chars lined up in both fixed width and variable texts. Ahhhh, but that is
>the bane of ASCII, no?!?!? (different newsgroup readers, etc.) LOL...

Any newsreader that defaults to variable width is broken

usenet is fundamentally a plain text medium.

hawk
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