Hi, all.
I'm seeking advice again, though I read each thread in this newsgroup
almost daily and have learned much.

I have a 6 gallon Pinot Noir kit, just in the primary, and I've added 1
oz of dried elderberries. Will I get some of the elderberry taste? or am
I wasting my time? And now that I did it, how could I ever tell if it is
different? I wanted to do it during primary fermenting, but I guess I
could have put into two 3 gallon carboys and added to only one. But too
late now. But I seek any experience or thoughts.

I was looking to make it more "jammy". (smile)

DAve

Dave,
dried elderberries are commonly added to Pinot Noir by the French in
order to 'beef up' the body of the wine. It's a well-known practice, and
should yield the same results for you. Good luck and keep us posted as to
how your kit turns out. Just _DO NOT_ try to put your kit, or any other red
wine kit, through ML conversion. You will wind up with an alcoholic beverage
that tastes like geraniums, and, like vinegar, is irreversible. Kits are
_manufactured_ this way now, that the 'ingredients' that they come with are
meant to be used.
Joanne

"Dave Allison" > wrote in message
...
> Hi, all.
> I'm seeking advice again, though I read each thread in this newsgroup
> almost daily and have learned much.
>
> I have a 6 gallon Pinot Noir kit, just in the primary, and I've added 1 oz
> of dried elderberries. Will I get some of the elderberry taste? or am I
> wasting my time? And now that I did it, how could I ever tell if it is
> different? I wanted to do it during primary fermenting, but I guess I
> could have put into two 3 gallon carboys and added to only one. But too
> late now. But I seek any experience or thoughts.
>
> I was looking to make it more "jammy". (smile)
>
> DAve

Ah, well, I like geraniums in the garden, not in my wine. So thanks. I
have never tried ML conversion, though would like to try someday.
For now, this is cool information... surely I can do it as well as the
French! smile.

Here's to jammy Pinot! I'll keep you informed.
DAve

jmreiter wrote:
> Dave,
> dried elderberries are commonly added to Pinot Noir by the French in
> order to 'beef up' the body of the wine. It's a well-known practice, and
> should yield the same results for you. Good luck and keep us posted as to
> how your kit turns out. Just _DO NOT_ try to put your kit, or any other red
> wine kit, through ML conversion. You will wind up with an alcoholic beverage
> that tastes like geraniums, and, like vinegar, is irreversible. Kits are
> _manufactured_ this way now, that the 'ingredients' that they come with are
> meant to be used.
> Joanne
>
> "Dave Allison" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Hi, all.
>> I'm seeking advice again, though I read each thread in this newsgroup
>> almost daily and have learned much.
>>
>> I have a 6 gallon Pinot Noir kit, just in the primary, and I've added 1 oz
>> of dried elderberries. Will I get some of the elderberry taste? or am I
>> wasting my time? And now that I did it, how could I ever tell if it is
>> different? I wanted to do it during primary fermenting, but I guess I
>> could have put into two 3 gallon carboys and added to only one. But too
>> late now. But I seek any experience or thoughts.
>>
>> I was looking to make it more "jammy". (smile)
>>
>> DAve
>
>

Dave,
save the ML conversion for when you make wine from grapes, not processed
juice or kits. Happy winemaking.
Joanne

"Dave Allison" > wrote in message
...
> Ah, well, I like geraniums in the garden, not in my wine. So thanks. I
> have never tried ML conversion, though would like to try someday.
> For now, this is cool information... surely I can do it as well as the
> French! smile.
>
> Here's to jammy Pinot! I'll keep you informed.
> DAve
>
> jmreiter wrote:
>> Dave,
>> dried elderberries are commonly added to Pinot Noir by the French in
>> order to 'beef up' the body of the wine. It's a well-known practice, and
>> should yield the same results for you. Good luck and keep us posted as to
>> how your kit turns out. Just _DO NOT_ try to put your kit, or any other
>> red wine kit, through ML conversion. You will wind up with an alcoholic
>> beverage that tastes like geraniums, and, like vinegar, is irreversible.
>> Kits are _manufactured_ this way now, that the 'ingredients' that they
>> come with are meant to be used.
>> Joanne
>>
>> "Dave Allison" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Hi, all.
>>> I'm seeking advice again, though I read each thread in this newsgroup
>>> almost daily and have learned much.
>>>
>>> I have a 6 gallon Pinot Noir kit, just in the primary, and I've added 1
>>> oz of dried elderberries. Will I get some of the elderberry taste? or am
>>> I wasting my time? And now that I did it, how could I ever tell if it is
>>> different? I wanted to do it during primary fermenting, but I guess I
>>> could have put into two 3 gallon carboys and added to only one. But too
>>> late now. But I seek any experience or thoughts.
>>>
>>> I was looking to make it more "jammy". (smile)
>>>
>>> DAve
>>

thanks. I have to try that sometime. I've done 10 kits and a dozen
recipes on fruit - but never a grape wine. Can't wait.
thanks. DAve

jmreiter wrote:
> Dave,
> save the ML conversion for when you make wine from grapes, not processed
> juice or kits. Happy winemaking.
> Joanne
>
> "Dave Allison" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Ah, well, I like geraniums in the garden, not in my wine. So thanks. I
>> have never tried ML conversion, though would like to try someday.
>> For now, this is cool information... surely I can do it as well as the
>> French! smile.
>>
>> Here's to jammy Pinot! I'll keep you informed.
>> DAve
>>
>> jmreiter wrote:
>>> Dave,
>>> dried elderberries are commonly added to Pinot Noir by the French in
>>> order to 'beef up' the body of the wine. It's a well-known practice, and
>>> should yield the same results for you. Good luck and keep us posted as to
>>> how your kit turns out. Just _DO NOT_ try to put your kit, or any other
>>> red wine kit, through ML conversion. You will wind up with an alcoholic
>>> beverage that tastes like geraniums, and, like vinegar, is irreversible.
>>> Kits are _manufactured_ this way now, that the 'ingredients' that they
>>> come with are meant to be used.
>>> Joanne
>>>
>>> "Dave Allison" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Hi, all.
>>>> I'm seeking advice again, though I read each thread in this newsgroup
>>>> almost daily and have learned much.
>>>>
>>>> I have a 6 gallon Pinot Noir kit, just in the primary, and I've added 1
>>>> oz of dried elderberries. Will I get some of the elderberry taste? or am
>>>> I wasting my time? And now that I did it, how could I ever tell if it is
>>>> different? I wanted to do it during primary fermenting, but I guess I
>>>> could have put into two 3 gallon carboys and added to only one. But too
>>>> late now. But I seek any experience or thoughts.
>>>>
>>>> I was looking to make it more "jammy". (smile)
>>>>
>>>> DAve
>

"Dave Allison" > wrote in message
...
> Hi, all.
> I'm seeking advice again, though I read each thread in this newsgroup
> almost daily and have learned much.
>
> I have a 6 gallon Pinot Noir kit, just in the primary, and I've added 1 oz
> of dried elderberries. Will I get some of the elderberry taste? or am I
> wasting my time? And now that I did it, how could I ever tell if it is
> different? I wanted to do it during primary fermenting, but I guess I
> could have put into two 3 gallon carboys and added to only one. But too
> late now. But I seek any experience or thoughts.
>
> I was looking to make it more "jammy". (smile)
>
> DAve

Dave,

I make a blend of 20% elderberries and 80% Concord grapes. The elderberries
add some depth to the taste of the Concord.

Paul