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Default TN: Nice village Meursault , dull Chablis AC, nice Margaux AC

With lemon sole, broccoli rabe, and a winter vegetable salad
(celeriac, other root veggies, feta, etc) the 2007 Lafouge “Les Meix
Chavaux” Meursault. Sweet Bosc pear fruit, orange peel, light
hazelnutty notes. Nice mid-bodied white Burg, balanced acidity, stony
notes on the finish. A-/B+

I was really happy to get home Friday, and Betsy greeted me with some
leftover ama-ebi. I opened a half bottle the 2007 Daniel Dampt
Chablis. I've been a fan of the Dampt Cote de Lechet, but I think this
is my first time with the Chablis AC. Clean, but ultimately boring.
Lean green apple fruit, tart, rather short. B-/C+

Dinner was roast chicken, with a fennel/cabbage salad and an
assortment of leftover vegetables. I opened the 1979 Ch. du Tertre
(Margaux). This wine has been quite dependable for a long time- I had
in the mid-90s and quite liked, and then restocked a few years ago
when some friends described it as the surprise of a 79 horizontal. I
got several at auction, was quite pleased, then restocked on Winebid.
This was a WB bottle, good fill but cork looked pretty saturated - I
used an Ah So. Maybe a bit more advanced than pristine bottles, but
still a solid and classic claret. Smooth cassis fruit with mature
aromas of cigarbox and forest floor. My initial criticism was maybe
drying out a little on finish, but I no longer found that when I
revisited a while later (after watching an episode of "Foyle's
Wat.").
This bottle is certainly a drink up, but I've had others that had
plenty of life left. B+

Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an
excellent*wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I
wouldn't*drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I
offer no*promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of
consistency.**

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On Feb 20, 4:45*pm, DaleW wrote:
With lemon sole, broccoli rabe, and a winter vegetable salad
(celeriac, other root veggies, feta, etc) the 2007 Lafouge “Les Meix
Chavaux” Meursault. Sweet Bosc pear fruit, orange peel, light
hazelnutty notes. Nice mid-bodied white Burg, balanced acidity, stony
notes on the finish. A-/B+

I was really happy to get home Friday, and Betsy greeted me with some
leftover ama-ebi. I opened a half bottle the 2007 Daniel Dampt
Chablis. I've been a fan of the Dampt Cote de Lechet, but I think this
is my first time with the Chablis AC. Clean, but ultimately boring.
Lean green apple fruit, tart, rather short. B-/C+

Dinner was roast chicken, with a fennel/cabbage salad and an
assortment of leftover vegetables. I opened the 1979 Ch. du Tertre
(Margaux). *This wine has been quite dependable for a long time- I had
in the mid-90s and quite liked, and then restocked a few years ago
when some friends described it as the surprise of a 79 horizontal. I
got several at auction, was quite pleased, then restocked on Winebid.
This was a WB bottle, good fill but cork looked pretty saturated - I
used an Ah So. Maybe a bit more advanced than pristine bottles, but
still a solid and classic claret. Smooth cassis fruit with mature
aromas of cigarbox and forest floor. My initial criticism was maybe
drying out a little on finish, but I no longer found that when I
revisited a while later (after watching an episode of "Foyle's
Wat.").
This bottle is certainly a drink up, but I've had others that had
plenty of life left. B+

Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an
excellent*wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I
wouldn't*drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I
offer no*promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of
consistency.**


I apologize for the double post. I've removed the dupe from Google
groups, but think it'll still show on most reader. Sorry!
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On 2010-02-20 13:45:27 -0800, DaleW said:

I opened the 1979 Ch. du Tertre


(Margaux). This wine has been quite dependable for a long time- I had
in the mid-90s and quite liked, and then restocked a few years ago
when some friends described it as the surprise of a 79 horizontal. I
got several at auction, was quite pleased, then restocked on Winebid.
This was a WB bottle, good fill but cork looked pretty saturated - I
used an Ah So. Maybe a bit more advanced than pristine bottles, but
still a solid and classic claret. Smooth cassis fruit with mature
aromas of cigarbox and forest floor. My initial criticism was maybe
drying out a little on finish, but I no longer found that when I
revisited a while later


This bottle is certainly a drink up, but I've had others that had
plenty of life left. B+


I am amazed at the longevety... When the '79s came out they were
billed as "the ones to drink while you are waiting for the '78s to
mature." I found that true - my '79 Ch. Cheval Blanc barely made it
into the mid '90s when I felt it was drink up time.

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On Feb 20, 7:26*pm, Ronin wrote:
On 2010-02-20 13:45:27 -0800, DaleW said:

*I opened the 1979 Ch. du Tertre
(Margaux). *This wine has been quite dependable for a long time- I had
in the mid-90s and quite liked, and then restocked a few years ago
when some friends described it as the surprise of a 79 horizontal. I
got several at auction, was quite pleased, then restocked on Winebid.
This was a WB bottle, good fill but cork looked pretty saturated - I
used an Ah So. Maybe a bit more advanced than pristine bottles, but
still a solid and classic claret. Smooth cassis fruit with mature
aromas of cigarbox and forest floor. My initial criticism was maybe
drying out a little on finish, but I no longer found that when I
revisited a while later
This bottle is certainly a drink up, but I've had others that had
plenty of life left. B+


I am amazed at the longevety... *When the '79s came out they were
billed as "the ones to drink while you are waiting for the '78s to
mature." *I found that true - my '79 Ch. Cheval Blanc barely made it
into the mid '90s when I felt it was drink up time.


I actually have a bottle of the 79 Cheval Blanc, keep meaning to open
it. It was part of a mixed lot a few years ago. I hope it has lasted a
bit better than yours (but I got enough satisfaction from other
bottles for what I paid for lot it won't upset me if it's past it).

I have liked several 1979s, long after many have predicted their
demise. Someone once told me it's the last Bordeaux vintage that
seemed to age more on its acids than its tannins. There are 3 factors
that seem to come to mind:

1) it's not a very consistent vintage. There are (to my tastes) good
wines, not so good wines, tired wines, and vibrant wines. The Lafite
seems a little tired, LLC so-so, and Mouton iffy. Pichon Lalande is
lovely, and Pichon Baron tired and dull. Yet lesser wines like du
Tertre, Giscours, and DDC still have life. Of course, at this point,
it's as much about particular bottles as wines.


2) it's a somewhat divisive vintage. Many discount it completely. On
a couple of threads on other fora I've noticed a pattern. The camp who
thinks 79 was a so-so vintage that is past it tend (and I'm only
noting based on a limited sample) other than the Lafleur* to be people
who tend to like big wines, love modern Pavie and Pontet Canet, etc.
Those that think 1979 is underrated tend to be people who don't care
so much for modern powerhouses, who use the word "claret" in a
positive sense, and like Burgundy.
I have friends whose taste I respect in both camps. I'm not trying to
put people into narrow camps, but I do think '79 is not going to
appeal to people who love 2003 for instance.


*Lafleur is often cited by those who don't like '79 as the exception.
It's an impressive wine, in a very extracted style. I like it, but
don't love it. and certainly would rather have a 10-20 mixed bottles
of DDC, du Tertre, Pichon Lalande, etc than 1 $1000+ bottle of
Lafleur!


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