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TN: 9 blind Rhones, see how...
Last night was my local wine group, I thought about cancelling due to
cold but was feeling a bit better, so decided to go. I almost forgot to carry my wine, but made it to Alex's with wrapped bottle in hand. Theme was Rhone. Fred had brought along a white starter (all wines were blind). He said it was on theme and single variety. . Medium to full bodied, floral aromatics but not musky/exotic like Viognier, decent acidity, my first guess was Marsanne, secound Roussanne. 2008 Cuilleron Roussanne VdP. B We sat at table, Alex had a nice spread with venison pate, sausages, bundnerfleisch, cheeses, etc. Fred's red went first: Wine #1 Dark berries, meat, a little olive. Really nice. Fresh, good acidity, pretty clearly Northern Rhone. I guess St Joseph, am told correct, guess Gonon, I nailed it. Sounds pretty impressive, doesn't it? Actually more social engineering than impressive tasting. Once I determined Northern rather than Southern, I guessed that with price range we usually go in less likely to be Cote Rotie or Hermitage, St Jo seems a good midlevel way to go. Once that's established, I know Fred enjoyed the "les Iles Feray" I suspected he might have gone with Gonon. If it hadn't been Fred's wine I think I would have been less "accurate. " 2006 Gonon St. Joseph A- Wine #2 Sweet, a tad jammy, sweet, I am immediately in South, and say either CdP or Gigondas, probably former. Black cherries, red fruits, a little smoke. Low acid but with ok fresh finish. It's the 2007 Roger Perrin Chateauneuf du Pape. B Wine #3 At first I thought Syrah, but then it seemed to get more red fruit Grenache tones. Nice earth and herb notes. Slightly austere/tannic finish. Nice midweight wine. 2006 Mordoree Lirac B/B+ (about here, I hit the floor. Literally. As I leaned to hand a bottle to Roger, my chair collapsed. Marc said "you know, I think that's the 5th time I've seen that here." Alex says "yes, we really shouldn't have people sit in that old chair." When I tell Betsy this AM, she relates it happened to her at a dinner last year- I had forgotten. Alex is a great host, but in a house with many chairs the delicate ones shouldn't be at table!). Wine #4 I liked this, but (incorrectly) went Southern Rhone (specifically Gigondas). Low acid, red fruit, sweet edge, lots of damp earth, nice finish. Somehow I forgot to write down producer of this 2006 Crozes Hermitage, will ask Alex to check recycling. B/B+ Wine #5 Ripe, slightly jammy,leather. OK, I still think we're in South, but seems a bit less exuberant than CdP. Alex says it's a small appellation, I guess *Vacqueyras, but it's the 2006 La Bouissiere Gigondas. B Wine #6 No guessing as it's mine. Still a little cool. Nice midweight Syrah, black fruit, bacon, leather. Fresh acidity, some ripe tannins. I think everyone is in North. 2001 Duclaux Cote Rotie. B+ Wine #7 Somewhat grapey, good acidity and a little hint of spritz, fresh fruit flavors, maybe a tad short. 2007 La Grand Poiloe Cotes du Rhone . B Wine #8 2006 Mordoree Lirac Herbs, cherries and pomegranite, some tannins. Turns out we have a second bottle of the Mordoree Lirac. B Nice night with the guys, despite my cold. Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent*wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't*drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no*promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.** |
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On Feb 6, 2:41�pm, DaleW > wrote:
> Last night was my local wine group, I thought about cancelling due to > cold but was feeling a bit better, so decided to go. I almost forgot > to carry my wine, but made it to Alex's with wrapped bottle in hand. > > Theme was Rhone. Fred had brought along a white starter (all wines > were blind). He said it was on theme and single variety. . Medium to > full bodied, floral aromatics but not musky/exotic like Viognier, > decent acidity, �my first guess was Marsanne, secound Roussanne. > 2008 Cuilleron Roussanne VdP. B > > We sat at table, Alex had a nice spread with venison pate, sausages, > bundnerfleisch, cheeses, etc. Fred's red went first: > > Wine #1 > Dark berries, meat, a little olive. Really nice. Fresh, good acidity, > pretty clearly Northern Rhone. I guess St Joseph, am told correct, > guess Gonon, I nailed it. Sounds pretty impressive, doesn't it? > Actually more social engineering than impressive tasting. Once I > determined Northern rather than Southern, I guessed that with price > range we usually go in less likely to be Cote Rotie or Hermitage, St > Jo seems a good midlevel way to go. Once that's established, I know > Fred enjoyed the "les Iles Feray" I suspected he might have gone with > Gonon. If it hadn't been Fred's wine I think I would have been less > "accurate. " �2006 Gonon St. Joseph � A- > > Wine #2 > Sweet, a tad jammy, sweet, I am immediately in South, and say either > CdP or Gigondas, probably former. Black cherries, red fruits, a little > smoke. Low acid but with ok fresh finish. It's the 2007 Roger Perrin > Chateauneuf du Pape. B > > Wine #3 > At first I thought Syrah, but then it seemed to get � more red fruit > Grenache tones. Nice earth and herb notes. Slightly austere/tannic > finish. Nice midweight wine. 2006 Mordoree Lirac � B/B+ > > (about here, I hit the floor. Literally. As I leaned to hand a bottle > to Roger, my chair collapsed. Marc said "you know, I think that's the > 5th time I've seen that here." Alex says "yes, we really shouldn't > have people sit in that old chair." When I tell Betsy this AM, she > relates it happened to her at a dinner last year- I had forgotten. > Alex is a great host, but in a house with many chairs the delicate > ones shouldn't be at table!). > > Wine #4 > I liked this, but (incorrectly) went Southern Rhone (specifically > Gigondas). Low acid, red fruit, sweet edge, lots of damp earth, nice > finish. Somehow I forgot to write down producer of this 2006 Crozes > Hermitage, will ask Alex to check recycling. B/B+ > > Wine #5 > Ripe, slightly jammy,leather. OK, I still think we're in South, but > seems a bit less exuberant than CdP. Alex says it's a small > appellation, I guess �Vacqueyras, but it's the 2006 La Bouissiere > Gigondas. B > > Wine #6 > No guessing as it's mine. Still a little cool. Nice midweight Syrah, > black fruit, bacon, leather. Fresh acidity, some ripe tannins. I think > everyone is in North. 2001 Duclaux Cote Rotie. B+ > > Wine #7 > Somewhat grapey, good acidity and a little hint of spritz, fresh fruit > flavors, maybe a tad short. 2007 La Grand Poiloe Cotes du Rhone . B > > Wine #8 > 2006 Mordoree Lirac > Herbs, cherries and pomegranite, some tannins. Turns out we have a > second bottle of the Mordoree Lirac. B > > Nice night with the guys, despite my cold. > > Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an > excellent�wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I > wouldn't�drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I > offer no�promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of > consistency.�� Did you save the wine when the chair collapsed? |
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On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 11:41:33 -0800, DaleW wrote:
> (about here, I hit the floor. Literally. As I leaned to hand a bottle to > Roger, my chair collapsed. Marc said "you know, I think that's the 5th > time I've seen that here." Alex says "yes, we really shouldn't have > people sit in that old chair." When I tell Betsy this AM, she relates it > happened to her at a dinner last year- I had forgotten. Alex is a great > host, but in a house with many chairs the delicate ones shouldn't be at > table!). It reminds me of a time some years back when my spouse and I were staying at an"El Cheapo" motel in Winnemucca, NV. One must remember that the humidity in Northern Nevada is always VERY low. At the time, she was around 90 lbs. When she sat down on one of the chairs, it collapsed under her - all the glued joints has shrunk so dramatically that they were on the verge of parting company. Fortunately, she was not injured. However, I made certain that the management did not bill me for a chair. ;-) Godzilla |
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"Godzilla Lizard" > skrev i melding > I made certain that the management did not bill me for a chair. ;-) > So you didn't have to make a chairity donation? :-) Anders |
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On Feb 7, 8:38*am, "Bi!!" > wrote:
> On Feb 6, 2:41 pm, DaleW > wrote: > > > > > > > Last night was my local wine group, I thought about cancelling due to > > cold but was feeling a bit better, so decided to go. I almost forgot > > to carry my wine, but made it to Alex's with wrapped bottle in hand. > > > Theme was Rhone. Fred had brought along a white starter (all wines > > were blind). He said it was on theme and single variety. . Medium to > > full bodied, floral aromatics but not musky/exotic like Viognier, > > decent acidity, my first guess was Marsanne, secound Roussanne. > > 2008 Cuilleron Roussanne VdP. B > > > We sat at table, Alex had a nice spread with venison pate, sausages, > > bundnerfleisch, cheeses, etc. Fred's red went first: > > > Wine #1 > > Dark berries, meat, a little olive. Really nice. Fresh, good acidity, > > pretty clearly Northern Rhone. I guess St Joseph, am told correct, > > guess Gonon, I nailed it. Sounds pretty impressive, doesn't it? > > Actually more social engineering than impressive tasting. Once I > > determined Northern rather than Southern, I guessed that with price > > range we usually go in less likely to be Cote Rotie or Hermitage, St > > Jo seems a good midlevel way to go. Once that's established, I know > > Fred enjoyed the "les Iles Feray" I suspected he might have gone with > > Gonon. If it hadn't been Fred's wine I think I would have been less > > "accurate. " 2006 Gonon St. Joseph A- > > > Wine #2 > > Sweet, a tad jammy, sweet, I am immediately in South, and say either > > CdP or Gigondas, probably former. Black cherries, red fruits, a little > > smoke. Low acid but with ok fresh finish. It's the 2007 Roger Perrin > > Chateauneuf du Pape. B > > > Wine #3 > > At first I thought Syrah, but then it seemed to get more red fruit > > Grenache tones. Nice earth and herb notes. Slightly austere/tannic > > finish. Nice midweight wine. 2006 Mordoree Lirac B/B+ > > > (about here, I hit the floor. Literally. As I leaned to hand a bottle > > to Roger, my chair collapsed. Marc said "you know, I think that's the > > 5th time I've seen that here." Alex says "yes, we really shouldn't > > have people sit in that old chair." When I tell Betsy this AM, she > > relates it happened to her at a dinner last year- I had forgotten. > > Alex is a great host, but in a house with many chairs the delicate > > ones shouldn't be at table!). > > > Wine #4 > > I liked this, but (incorrectly) went Southern Rhone (specifically > > Gigondas). Low acid, red fruit, sweet edge, lots of damp earth, nice > > finish. Somehow I forgot to write down producer of this 2006 Crozes > > Hermitage, will ask Alex to check recycling. B/B+ > > > Wine #5 > > Ripe, slightly jammy,leather. OK, I still think we're in South, but > > seems a bit less exuberant than CdP. Alex says it's a small > > appellation, I guess Vacqueyras, but it's the 2006 La Bouissiere > > Gigondas. B > > > Wine #6 > > No guessing as it's mine. Still a little cool. Nice midweight Syrah, > > black fruit, bacon, leather. Fresh acidity, some ripe tannins. I think > > everyone is in North. 2001 Duclaux Cote Rotie. B+ > > > Wine #7 > > Somewhat grapey, good acidity and a little hint of spritz, fresh fruit > > flavors, maybe a tad short. 2007 La Grand Poiloe Cotes du Rhone . B > > > Wine #8 > > 2006 Mordoree Lirac > > Herbs, cherries and pomegranite, some tannins. Turns out we have a > > second bottle of the Mordoree Lirac. B > > > Nice night with the guys, despite my cold. > > > Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an > > excellent wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I > > wouldn't drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I > > offer no promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of > > consistency. > > Did you save the wine when the chair collapsed? Of course, I have some pride! |
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On Feb 6, 2:41*pm, DaleW > wrote:
> Last night was my local wine group, I thought about cancelling due to > cold but was feeling a bit better, so decided to go. I almost forgot > to carry my wine, but made it to Alex's with wrapped bottle in hand. > > Theme was Rhone. Fred had brought along a white starter (all wines > were blind). He said it was on theme and single variety. . Medium to > full bodied, floral aromatics but not musky/exotic like Viognier, > decent acidity, *my first guess was Marsanne, secound Roussanne. > 2008 Cuilleron Roussanne VdP. B > > We sat at table, Alex had a nice spread with venison pate, sausages, > bundnerfleisch, cheeses, etc. Fred's red went first: > > Wine #1 > Dark berries, meat, a little olive. Really nice. Fresh, good acidity, > pretty clearly Northern Rhone. I guess St Joseph, am told correct, > guess Gonon, I nailed it. Sounds pretty impressive, doesn't it? > Actually more social engineering than impressive tasting. Once I > determined Northern rather than Southern, I guessed that with price > range we usually go in less likely to be Cote Rotie or Hermitage, St > Jo seems a good midlevel way to go. Once that's established, I know > Fred enjoyed the "les Iles Feray" I suspected he might have gone with > Gonon. If it hadn't been Fred's wine I think I would have been less > "accurate. " *2006 Gonon St. Joseph * A- > > Wine #2 > Sweet, a tad jammy, sweet, I am immediately in South, and say either > CdP or Gigondas, probably former. Black cherries, red fruits, a little > smoke. Low acid but with ok fresh finish. It's the 2007 Roger Perrin > Chateauneuf du Pape. B > > Wine #3 > At first I thought Syrah, but then it seemed to get * more red fruit > Grenache tones. Nice earth and herb notes. Slightly austere/tannic > finish. Nice midweight wine. 2006 Mordoree Lirac * B/B+ > > (about here, I hit the floor. Literally. As I leaned to hand a bottle > to Roger, my chair collapsed. Marc said "you know, I think that's the > 5th time I've seen that here." Alex says "yes, we really shouldn't > have people sit in that old chair." When I tell Betsy this AM, she > relates it happened to her at a dinner last year- I had forgotten. > Alex is a great host, but in a house with many chairs the delicate > ones shouldn't be at table!). > > Wine #4 > I liked this, but (incorrectly) went Southern Rhone (specifically > Gigondas). Low acid, red fruit, sweet edge, lots of damp earth, nice > finish. Somehow I forgot to write down producer of this 2006 Crozes > Hermitage, will ask Alex to check recycling. B/B+ > > Wine #5 > Ripe, slightly jammy,leather. OK, I still think we're in South, but > seems a bit less exuberant than CdP. Alex says it's a small > appellation, I guess *Vacqueyras, but it's the 2006 La Bouissiere > Gigondas. B > > Wine #6 > No guessing as it's mine. Still a little cool. Nice midweight Syrah, > black fruit, bacon, leather. Fresh acidity, some ripe tannins. I think > everyone is in North. 2001 Duclaux Cote Rotie. B+ > > Wine #7 > Somewhat grapey, good acidity and a little hint of spritz, fresh fruit > flavors, maybe a tad short. 2007 La Grand Poiloe Cotes du Rhone . B > > Wine #8 > 2006 Mordoree Lirac > Herbs, cherries and pomegranite, some tannins. Turns out we have a > second bottle of the Mordoree Lirac. B > > Nice night with the guys, despite my cold. > > Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an > excellent*wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I > wouldn't*drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I > offer no*promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of > consistency.** The Crozes was Domaine Bernard Ange |
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On 02/06/2010 08:41 PM, DaleW wrote:
> Wine #2 > Sweet, a tad jammy, sweet, I am immediately in South, and say either > CdP or Gigondas, probably former. Black cherries, red fruits, a little > smoke. Low acid but with ok fresh finish. It's the 2007 Roger Perrin > Chateauneuf du Pape. B I'm sorry to hear that this is getting sweet and jammy. I've not had this one yet, but the 2007 CdR "Reserve" (which is made from many of the same fields) is an excellent classic, with lots of smoke and tar, a big backbone of kirsch and very limited jammy-ness. I have for many years been a stout supporter of Roger Perrin, where the wine maker has for some years been Luc Perrin. At some point Luc appear to have acquired a wife (whom I haven't met) who now seems to be taking a very active role in the business, presumably in replacement of the elder Mme Perrin. (Madame does still write out the bills in her immaculate and astonishing handwriting, a reminder of a former time when penmanship was a primary scholastic value. Worth an order to get the bill; really beautiful!) The younger Madame seems to have some affinity for "le marketing," something I suspect strongly leaves Luc indifferent, and brochures and new bottles have appeared. I have noticed that the "regular" CdR has lightened in style, approaching one of those drink-it-now vin de soif in 2008 which litter the Rhone Valley. (It's better than that, but the style change is pretty clear over the last few years.) I hope we aren't seeing the hand of a consultant oenologue at work. -E |
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