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Well, I had no idea what a emoticon was until now. I searched on Google and
found this. ![]() ![]() :-) Happy person with a nose :-( Sad person with a nose :---( Person who is sad because he or she has a large nose ![]() :-D Person laughing :-D* Person laughing so hard that he or she does not notice that a 5-legged spider is hanging from his or her lip :-| Person unsure of which long-distance company to choose >8-O-(&) Person just realizing that he or she has a tapeworm ;-) Person winking .-) Person who can still smile despite losing an eyeball :-0WW Person vomiting a series of Slim Jims :-Q Person who just had cybersex and is now enjoying a post-coital cybercigarette >:-Q -... Person who was enjoying a post-coital cigarette until he suddenly noticed, to his alarm, that there is some kind of discharge dribbling from his cybermember :-{8 Person who is unhappy with the results of her breast-enlargement surgery :V:-| Person who cannot figure out why nobody wants to talk to him or her, little suspecting that there is an alligator on his or her head ~oE]:-| Fisherperson heading for market with a basket on his or her head containing a three-legged octopus that is giving off smell rays >:-[ -{9 Person who is none too pleased to be giving birth to a squirrel "Dale Williams" > wrote in message ... > As one of the resident self-appointed AFW busybodies, I feel once again > compelled to make a post re courtesy. In doing so, I'm not trying to point > fingers, nor am I trying to sidestep my own responsibility in this latest > donnybrook. It's just good to step back sometimes and remember some general > guidelines. A lot of this is distilled from earlier posts, so might not apply > to recent discussions. But still, IMHO, worth remembering. > > 1) Personally, I find it less than helpful to make generalizations about people > based on where they live, what they do outside wine, etc. And don't be too sure > you know someone's nationality or residence- at least 3 assumptions made > recently were incorrect (to the best of my knowledge). > 2) Let's try to cut the personal comments, OK? If you don't like someone, > filter their posts. > 3) Try to avoid stating opinions as certainties. The use of terms like "in my > opinion" (IMO, IMHO, IMNSVHO, etc.) add nuance to statements which might > otherwise irritate or offend. > 4) If you're being funny or teasing, use emoticons. If someone uses a smile or > wink emoticon, take a breath before you get offended by their words! > 5) Please try to not relive old arguments. > 6)Try to be precise if you can. But if someone isn't, correct only if there's a > real possibilty of confusion, or if you feel it can contribute to the general > readership's wine knowledge. > 7)This is Usenet , a tool for discussion. Don't expect to post something w/o > possibility of someone refuting it. > 8) No one is superior (In My Humble Opinion) based on either the simplicity or > elegance of what they eat or drink. Isn't this group big enough for someone to > have Shiraz with BBQed chicken and another to have rack of lamb with a fine > Pauillac? Does it somehow offend you to read about a meal you wouldn't eat > yourself? > 9)New Folks: you're here to learn, right? So if someone who has been serious > about wine for many years corrects you, learn from it, don't get your feelings > hurt. > 10) Old folks (speaking from perspective of how long you've been on AFW , you > can be new at 66 or old at 26 in my view): remember you were new (to wine and > AFW) at some point, too. Correct if need be, but let's try to do so graciously. > > 11) Newbies: we welcome your participation (this is speaking as someone who has > participated for a few years, I'm neither an old-timer or a newbie). But as in > ANY social situation, whether on or off line, it is wisest not to attack a > respected member of a community while a newbie, it really won't win you any > points. > > So there. I'm sure I've offended a few people, including some I regard as > "friends" (in the newsgroup sense). But please try to take these as general > thoughts, not accusations or fingerpointing. And as I said, I'm aware that I > was a participant in the Venice discussion, no better than many others. > > Please do not respond with posts about " well poster X broke number 3 before I > broke number 2", or even worse "the (insert Europeans or Americans) ignored > number 6". Let's try to move forward with a modicum of grace, ok? > > Dale > PS:I'll add an excellent post Mark Lipton wrote a while ago (bad word wrap edit > my fault): > "Over the past few days, there has been a mini-spate of people takingexception > to the posts of others in this group. As I noted in anotherpost, from my > perspective this group has operated with a minimal amountof interpersonal > friction (for the most part) since I first started reading it in 1999. I think > I speak for everyone here when I say thatwe all want to *encourage* others to > post freely and without fear of"reprisal," so I now offer some advice for > negotiating this newsgroupwith a minimum of Strurm und Drang: > 1. Please keep in mind that many of the contributors to alt.food.winedo not > speak English as their first language. Their comments may lacksome of the > nuances of native Anglophones' and consequently appear harshor rude where in > fact no such intention exists. > 2. Internet-based communication is treated by most people as informal(like > spoken communication) despite the fact that it's written and solacks the > inflection of spoken communication -- this too can lead tomistaken impressions > of the writer's intent. This is one reason why"smilies" and other emoticons > have been embraced on Usenet. However,not all use them when they should, so we > must also take all comments onUsenet with a thick skin and open mind, as we are > forced to read intothose written words the emotional content that written words > lack. > 3. The pseudoanonymity of Usenet also encourages some to behave > moreaggressively than they would in actual conversation. Taken to theexteme, > this results in that phenomenon known as the Usenet "troll":someone who > purposely tries to create havoc in newsgroups throughpersonal attacks and > ridicule. Short of that, one might still find thatthe posts of a certain > individual annoy or disturb. In such cases, onecan always employ the filters > that virtually all newsreaders areequipped with to filter out posts by certain > individuals or regardingcertain subjects. The details of how to do that vary > according tonewsreader software, but tutorials exist on the Web for > employingfilters in all the popular newsreaders. > 4. Most of us who frequent this newsgroup do so out of a sincere desireto > discuss and learn more about wine. Part of this aspect of the groupis that > people routinely question or correct mistakes made by others.To some, this may > be "nitpicking," but such a definition is necessarilyin the mind of the > beholder. After three years of reading posts here, Iknow that such correction > is rarely if ever offered in anything but ahelpful spirit. However, if being > corrected bothers you, you shouldtake care to check your facts *before* posting > to reduce the probabilityof being in error -- because erroneous statements will > almost invariablybe corrected here.In summary, this group is fantastic resource > for learning about allthings wine-related. There will be times when a > particular post mayupset you, but free speech in this forum is encouraged. > However, wemust all strive to give others the benefit of the doubt and to avoid > asmuch as possible taking any comments made here too personally. As a sage > once remarked, "relax, it's only Usenet!" ;-)HTHMark Lipton" > > Mark, hope it's OK that I quoted you > > Dale > > Dale Williams > Drop "damnspam" to reply |
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