Authorities urged to be prepared for cases in humans who ate tainted
meat 10 years ago

A prominent neurologist has urged authorities to be prepared for a
possible outbreak of mad cow disease in humans, saying it could begin
to manifest itself in people who ate tainted meat a decade ago. It is
suspected that feed contaminated with the disease was imported into
Thailand 10 years ago.

Threat Hemajutha of Chulalongkorn University said it took about 10
years for people who have eaten contaminated meat to show symptoms.

It was likely that there would be mad cow disease cases in humans in
Thailand and, from now on, the country had to be extremely watchful
for possible outbreaks of the disease in humans.

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full story:
http://www.bangkokpost.com/News/20Nov2005_news06.php

Beach Twit wrote:
> Authorities urged to be prepared for cases in humans who ate tainted
> meat 10 years ago

Points about and from the article:
1. This pertains to beef raised in *Thailand*.
2. The neurologist said it COULD begin to manifest soon, not that it will.
3. "[H]e said it is safe to eat meat now as there have been no reports
of sick cows recently."

Thailand is not in the list of countries affected with BSE:

What countries have reported cases of BSE or are considered to
have a substantial risk associated with BSE?

These countries a Albania, Austria, Belgium,
Bosnia-Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark,
Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, Finland, France, Germany,
Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Liechtenstein,
Luxembourg, former Yugoslavia Republic of Macedonia, The
Netherlands, Norway, Oman, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovak
Republic, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Japan, and the
United Kingdom (Great Britain including Northern Ireland and the
Falkland Islands).

Canada (May 2003) and the U.S. (December 2003) each have
recently reported one BSE-positive cow but remain countries
considered to have a low risk. The U.S. BSE-positive cow
reported in December 2003 was confirmed to have been imported
from Canada in 2001.
http://hgic.clemson.edu/factsheets/HGIC3690.htm

Also:
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Countries/Areas Affected with Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE)

9 CFR 94.18

Austria Italy
Belgium Japan
Canada Liechtenstein
Czech Republic Luxembourg
Denmark Netherlands
Finland Oman
France Poland
Germany Portugal
Greece Slovakia/Slovenia
Ireland, Republic of Spain
Israel Switzerland
United Kingdom (U.K.) [includes Great Britain (England, Scotland, Wales,
Isle of Man), Ireland, Northern Ireland, and the Falklands]

Countries that are considered to have a substantial risk associated with
BSE due to:

(1) Lack of implementation of an adequate surveillance program, or

(2) Potential for disease exposure/introduction, or

(3) Uncertainty of status because insufficient information is
available to conduct a full risk assessment.


Andorra Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia
Albania Monaco
Bosnia-Herzegovina Republic of San Marino
Bulgaria Norway
Croatia Romania
Federal Republic of Yugoslavia Sweden
Hungary

source: http://www.aphis.usda.gov/NCIE/country.html#BSE
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See also: http://www.oie.int/eng/info/en_esbincidence.htm
and: http://www.fda.gov/cber/summaries/cent092302dash_4.gif

usual suspect wrote:

> Beach Twit wrote:
>
>> Authorities urged to be prepared for cases in humans who ate tainted
>> meat 10 years ago
>
>
> Points about and from the article:
> 1. This pertains to beef raised in *Thailand*.
> 2. The neurologist said it COULD begin to manifest soon, not that it will.
> 3. "[H]e said it is safe to eat meat now as there have been no reports
> of sick cows recently."
>
> Thailand is not in the list of countries affected with BSE:
>
> What countries have reported cases of BSE or are considered to
> have a substantial risk associated with BSE?
>
> These countries a Albania, Austria, Belgium,
> Bosnia-Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark,
> Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, Finland, France, Germany,
> Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Liechtenstein,
> Luxembourg, former Yugoslavia Republic of Macedonia, The
> Netherlands, Norway, Oman, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovak
> Republic, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Japan, and the
> United Kingdom (Great Britain including Northern Ireland and the
> Falkland Islands).
>
> Canada (May 2003) and the U.S. (December 2003) each have
> recently reported one BSE-positive cow but remain countries
> considered to have a low risk. The U.S. BSE-positive cow
> reported in December 2003 was confirmed to have been imported
> from Canada in 2001.
> http://hgic.clemson.edu/factsheets/HGIC3690.htm
>
> Also:
> ----------------------------------
> Countries/Areas Affected with Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE)
>
> 9 CFR 94.18
>
> Austria Italy
> Belgium Japan
> Canada Liechtenstein
> Czech Republic Luxembourg
> Denmark Netherlands
> Finland Oman
> France Poland
> Germany Portugal
> Greece Slovakia/Slovenia
> Ireland, Republic of Spain
> Israel Switzerland
> United Kingdom (U.K.) [includes Great Britain (England, Scotland, Wales,
> Isle of Man), Ireland, Northern Ireland, and the Falklands]
>
> Countries that are considered to have a substantial risk associated with
> BSE due to:
>
> (1) Lack of implementation of an adequate surveillance program, or
>
> (2) Potential for disease exposure/introduction, or
>
> (3) Uncertainty of status because insufficient information is
> available to conduct a full risk assessment.
>
>
> Andorra Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia
> Albania Monaco
> Bosnia-Herzegovina Republic of San Marino
> Bulgaria Norway
> Croatia Romania
> Federal Republic of Yugoslavia Sweden
> Hungary
>
> source: http://www.aphis.usda.gov/NCIE/country.html#BSE
> ----------------------------------
> See also: http://www.oie.int/eng/info/en_esbincidence.htm
> and: http://www.fda.gov/cber/summaries/cent092302dash_4.gif


With the incredibly long gestation period, the lack of compliance with
rules and regulations, misdiagnoses, even you can see there is a very
big chance we have a much larger problem on our hands. The full results
are UNKNOWN.

Beach Twit wrote:
>>> Authorities urged to be prepared for cases in humans who ate tainted
>>> meat 10 years ago
>>
>> Points about and from the article:
>> 1. This pertains to beef raised in *Thailand*.
>> 2. The neurologist said it COULD begin to manifest soon, not that it
>> will.
>> 3. "[H]e said it is safe to eat meat now as there have been no reports
>> of sick cows recently."
>>
>> Thailand is not in the list of countries affected with BSE:
>>
>> What countries have reported cases of BSE or are considered to
>> have a substantial risk associated with BSE?
>>
>> These countries a Albania, Austria, Belgium,
>> Bosnia-Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark,
>> Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, Finland, France, Germany,
>> Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Liechtenstein,
>> Luxembourg, former Yugoslavia Republic of Macedonia, The
>> Netherlands, Norway, Oman, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovak
>> Republic, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Japan, and the
>> United Kingdom (Great Britain including Northern Ireland and the
>> Falkland Islands).
>>
>> Canada (May 2003) and the U.S. (December 2003) each have
>> recently reported one BSE-positive cow but remain countries
>> considered to have a low risk. The U.S. BSE-positive cow
>> reported in December 2003 was confirmed to have been imported
>> from Canada in 2001.
>> http://hgic.clemson.edu/factsheets/HGIC3690.htm
>>
>> Also:
>> ----------------------------------
>> Countries/Areas Affected with Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE)
>>
>> 9 CFR 94.18
>>
>> Austria Italy
>> Belgium Japan
>> Canada Liechtenstein
>> Czech Republic Luxembourg
>> Denmark Netherlands
>> Finland Oman
>> France Poland
>> Germany Portugal
>> Greece Slovakia/Slovenia
>> Ireland, Republic of Spain
>> Israel Switzerland
>> United Kingdom (U.K.) [includes Great Britain (England, Scotland,
>> Wales, Isle of Man), Ireland, Northern Ireland, and the Falklands]
>>
>> Countries that are considered to have a substantial risk associated
>> with BSE due to:
>>
>> (1) Lack of implementation of an adequate surveillance program, or
>>
>> (2) Potential for disease exposure/introduction, or
>>
>> (3) Uncertainty of status because insufficient information is
>> available to conduct a full risk assessment.
>>
>>
>> Andorra Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia
>> Albania Monaco
>> Bosnia-Herzegovina Republic of San Marino
>> Bulgaria Norway
>> Croatia Romania
>> Federal Republic of Yugoslavia Sweden
>> Hungary
>> source: http://www.aphis.usda.gov/NCIE/country.html#BSE
>> ----------------------------------
>> See also: http://www.oie.int/eng/info/en_esbincidence.htm
>> and: http://www.fda.gov/cber/summaries/cent092302dash_4.gif
>
> With the incredibly long gestation period,

The empirical data show that the predicted pandemic won't occur. New
cases of vCJD are increasingly rare. New cases of BSE are increasingly rare.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...610802,00.html
http://www.eurosurveillance.org/ew/2004/040513.asp#3
Etc.

> the lack of compliance with
> rules and regulations, misdiagnoses, even you can see there is a very
> big chance we have a much larger problem on our hands.

No, it was only a *tiny* chance from the beginning. Reported vCJD
infection rates in the UK -- the nation hit hardest by BSE -- are
falling steeply rather than increasing. The worst of the problem was
isolated in Europe, especially in the UK. A few, isolated cases of BSE
have occurred in a handful of nations outside Europe.

There have been only TWO cases of BSE in the US. Both cattle were from
dairy herds and were of advanced age -- about twelve years-old. Neither
entered the food supply. No American has ever been diagnosed with vCJD.
The only person known to have had vCJD in the US was a British national
who was believed infected while still living in the UK; iirc, she'd
eaten beef brains.

Corrections have been made to ensure the safety of the food supply. The
new changes proposed over a month ago are less significant than the
original changes which banned feeding byproducts made from ruminants to
other ruminants.

http://www.cjd.ed.ac.uk/figures.htm

> The full results are UNKNOWN.

The empirical data show infection rates are on the decline, even with
advances in detection.

usual suspect wrote:

>
> There have been only TWO cases of BSE in the US. Both cattle were from
> dairy herds and were of advanced age -- about twelve years-old. Neither
> entered the food supply. No American has ever been diagnosed with vCJD.
> The only person known to have had vCJD in the US was a British national
> who was believed infected while still living in the UK; iirc, she'd
> eaten beef brains.
A you don't recall, they attempted to trace the herd and were unable to
do to horrendous record keeping.


>
> Corrections have been made to ensure the safety of the food supply. The
> new changes proposed over a month ago are less significant than the
> original changes which banned feeding byproducts made from ruminants to
> other ruminants.
>
I posted the actual truth. Blood, chicken droppings and other potential
causes are still allowed. And then there is the question of compliance.

>> The full results are UNKNOWN.
>
>
> The empirical data show infection rates are on the decline, even with
> advances in detection.

You and I don't know. It's still unknown what the long term effects
will be. We certainly don't have a handle on infected animals.