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I have to respond to a statement made by someone in the group.
Vegans, Vegetarians, are not animal rights wacos who go into rooms like
this one and take over by throwing out our wacko animal rights beliefs
on everyone else. Here are the facts...
THIS IS A ROOM FOR AND ABOUT VEGANS!
Look at the room name! FOOD.VEGAN.
We as vegans come in here or I came in here to chat with others and
hoped to share my experiences with being a vegan. Maybe even share some
food ideas.
BUT WHAT DID I FIND?
HATE! People in here demanding us to explain why we do what we do. SO,
what are we to do but tell you why we don't eat meat.
OK WE ARE ANIMAL LOVING, TREE HUGGING, PEOPLE LOVING VEGANS WHO BELIEVE
ALL, YES ALL LIFE IS SACRED!
IF THAT MAKES US WACKOS THEN WHY ARE YOU EVEN IN HERE?
Some people come in here to get information about becoming a vegan and
thats fine. They don't need to be attacked for that. They need to get
any info. and then be left alone TO MAKE UP THEIR OWN MINDS!
THANKS FOR LETTING ME VENT.
The Wacko Vegan,
Eddie


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Hermit wrote:
I have to respond to a statement made by someone in the group.
Vegans, Vegetarians, are not animal rights wacos who go into rooms like
this one and take over by throwing out our wacko animal rights beliefs
on everyone else. Here are the facts...
THIS IS A ROOM FOR AND ABOUT VEGANS!


"room"?

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Old 26-02-2008, 11:58 AM posted to alt.food.vegan
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On Feb 24, 3:09*pm, (Hermit) wrote:
I have to respond to a statement made by someone in the group.
Vegans, Vegetarians, are not animal rights wacos who go into rooms like
this one and take over by throwing out our wacko animal rights beliefs
on everyone else. Here are the facts...
THIS IS A ROOM FOR AND ABOUT VEGANS!
Look at the room name! FOOD.VEGAN.
We as vegans come in here or I came in here to chat with others and
hoped to share my experiences with being a vegan. Maybe even share some
food ideas.
BUT WHAT DID I FIND?
HATE! People in here demanding us to explain why we do what we do. SO,
what are we to do but tell you why we don't eat meat.
OK WE ARE ANIMAL LOVING, TREE HUGGING, PEOPLE LOVING VEGANS WHO BELIEVE
ALL, YES ALL LIFE IS SACRED!
IF THAT MAKES US WACKOS THEN WHY ARE YOU EVEN IN HERE?
Some people come in here to get information about becoming a vegan and
thats fine. They don't need to be attacked for that. They need to get
any info. and then be left alone TO MAKE UP THEIR OWN MINDS!
THANKS FOR LETTING ME VENT.
The Wacko Vegan,
Eddie *


Hi. You may want to read this before continuing to post on un-
moderated newsgroups: http://www.urban75.com/Mag/troll.html

There are lots of moderated vegan orientated messgeboards out there
where you can talk with like minded vegans and where 'haters' are
blocked. Just take a look around.
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On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 10:09:43 -0500, (Hermit) wrote:

WE ARE ANIMAL LOVING, TREE HUGGING, PEOPLE LOVING
VEGANS WHO BELIEVE ALL, YES ALL LIFE IS SACRED!


Vegans contribute to the deaths of animals by their use of
wood and paper products, electricity, roads and all types of
buildings, their own diet, etc... just as everyone else does.
What they try to avoid are products which provide life
(and death) for farm animals, but even then they would have
to avoid the following items containing animal by-products
in order to be successful:

Tires, Paper, Upholstery, Floor waxes, Glass, Water
Filters, Rubber, Fertilizer, Antifreeze, Ceramics, Insecticides,
Insulation, Linoleum, Plastic, Textiles, Blood factors, Collagen,
Heparin, Insulin, Solvents, Biodegradable Detergents, Herbicides,
Gelatin Capsules, Adhesive Tape, Laminated Wood Products,
Plywood, Paneling, Wallpaper and Wallpaper Paste, Cellophane
Wrap and Tape, Abrasives, Steel Ball Bearings

The meat industry provides life for the animals that it
slaughters, and the animals live and die as a result of it
as animals do in other habitats. They also depend on it for
their lives as animals do in other habitats. If people consume
animal products from animals they think are raised in decent
ways, they will be promoting life for more such animals in the
future. People who want to contribute to decent lives for
livestock with their lifestyle must do it by being conscientious
consumers of animal products, because they can not do it by
being vegan.
From the life and death of a thousand pound grass raised
steer and whatever he happens to kill during his life, people
get over 500 pounds of human consumable meat...that's well
over 500 servings of meat. From a grass raised dairy cow people
get thousands of dairy servings. Due to the influence of farm
machinery, and *icides, and in the case of rice the flooding and
draining of fields, one serving of soy or rice based product is
likely to involve more animal deaths than hundreds of servings
derived from grass raised animals. Grass raised animal products
contribute to fewer wildlife deaths, better wildlife habitat, and
better lives for livestock than soy or rice products.


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