Tea (rec.drink.tea) Discussion relating to tea, the world's second most consumed beverage (after water), made by infusing or boiling the leaves of the tea plant (C. sinensis or close relatives) in water.

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Blair P. Houghton
 
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I actually saw one lost last week; there was an error message,
and I clicked the back button, and the edit was gone.

I've since discovered that if I'd clicked the "Reply" widget it
would have reopened the edit box, and my text would probably
still be in there (Firefox is stickier than IE for edit-box contents,
so YMMV).

Given that Google's not a high-reliability system (reliability may
be a forethought to some google coders, but I'm not expecting
them to have done a FMEA on it nor to be standardized as to
their diligence) I'll just have to take care to preserve content
myself.

--Blair
"ctrl-A ctrl-C tab tab tab enter"

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The only error I've ever seen to the Post Message button is Server Not
Available. Sending the information in the Text Message box back to
Google is a function of your Web Browser and ISP. That is the Modus
Operandi of the Client Server model of the Internet. The only
consistent glitch I can replicate in Google is keep the edit window
open a long time before the Post Message. Occasionally it return you
to the edit window again with the same information like you didn't do a
Post Message. This is because in the meantime other Usenet posts have
been rolled up in the same thread so your position has changed. You
hit the Post Message one more time to get the 'wait momentarily'
message while you are properly positioned in the thread. I don't even
worry about any backup strategy to my posts anymore. I cut my teeth on
Google when 24 hour postings were the standard and not momentarily. I
also log in and out for each post because the Internet is a stateless
system that is there is no guarantee you will be recognized as a Client
the next time you use the Post method expected by the Server. There
are ways around this conundrum but no standards. BTW the non standard
communications are also used by viruses.

Jim

Blair P. Houghton wrote:
> I actually saw one lost last week; there was an error message,
> and I clicked the back button, and the edit was gone.
>
> I've since discovered that if I'd clicked the "Reply" widget it
> would have reopened the edit box, and my text would probably
> still be in there (Firefox is stickier than IE for edit-box contents,
> so YMMV).
>
> Given that Google's not a high-reliability system (reliability may
> be a forethought to some google coders, but I'm not expecting
> them to have done a FMEA on it nor to be standardized as to
> their diligence) I'll just have to take care to preserve content
> myself.
>
> --Blair
> "ctrl-A ctrl-C tab tab tab enter"


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oleg shteynbuk
 
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Space Cowboy wrote:
> I also log in and out for each post because the Internet is a stateless
> system that is there is no guarantee you will be recognized as a Client
> the next time you use the Post method expected by the Server. There
> are ways around this conundrum but no standards. BTW the non standard
> communications are also used by viruses.
>
> Jim
>


I don’t think there is any need to login and logout for each post, HTTP
protocol is stateless (Internet is too broad a term) but the most common
way to track state is thru cookies, so I am pretty sure they know who
you are, and the fact that your login is 10 or 20 min old should not
make any difference, however Google can use some timeout, so if you were
inactive for some time they can log you out. But I don’t use browser to
post messages to this group and could not be sure if Google have timeout
and of the amount of time before timeout.

Oleg
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irae
 
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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
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Blair P. Houghton
 
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irae wrote:
> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
> A: Top-posting.
> Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?


Top-posting is not the same as saying things backwards. In fact, most
people skip the quoted text entirely and read the most recent text,
regardless of lexical order, then refer backwards, so top-posting is
the more efficient order for introductory postscripts or loosely
connected replies.

And if you consider top-posting annoying, much less the most annoying
thing on usenet or email, you're really not getting enough spam.

--Blair



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