Hi,
I have a new website which sells sourdough starter, but also has a lot
of free information about
recipes, techniques, and pictures of sourdough bread baked at home. You
can print out the information for free. You may find some techniques to
help you bake sourdough bread. I thankyou for the opportunity to show
off my new site and I hope you can find something useful.

Happy Baking,
http://www.northwestsourdough.com

On 15 Feb 2006 08:28:14 -0800, "northwestsourdough.com"
> wrote:

>Hi,
>I have a new website which sells sourdough starter, but also has a lot
>of free information about
>recipes, techniques, and pictures of sourdough bread baked at home. You
>can print out the information for free. You may find some techniques to
>help you bake sourdough bread. I thankyou for the opportunity to show
>off my new site and I hope you can find something useful.
>
>Happy Baking,
>http://www.northwestsourdough.com

How many groups have you posted this to, in total?

Boron

Not only that, by why start another sourdough group on Yahoo (as mentioned
on your website) when one already exists? Yet another person using a Yahoo
group to forward their commercial ambitions in the guise of providing
information, I guess.

- Steve

"Boron Elgar" > wrote in message
...
> On 15 Feb 2006 08:28:14 -0800, "northwestsourdough.com"
> > wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>I have a new website which sells sourdough starter, but also has a lot
>>of free information about
>>recipes, techniques, and pictures of sourdough bread baked at home. You
>>can print out the information for free. You may find some techniques to
>>help you bake sourdough bread. I thankyou for the opportunity to show
>>off my new site and I hope you can find something useful.
>>
>>Happy Baking,
>>http://www.northwestsourdough.com
>
> How many groups have you posted this to, in total?
>
> Boron

Boron,As I replied in the other forum, I deliberately went to the
different
forums and posted my invitation to visit my new website. It is aimed at

those that like sourdough. I have posted it all over the internet. If
you want to visit and see my new site please do. If you like what you
see you can print it off for free. If you don't others might.It is nice
to see you on all of the forums! Thankyou
for your interest.
Teresa

"northwestsourdough.com" > wrote in message oups.com...

> > > http://www.northwestsourdough.com/

> ... I deliberately went to the different forums and posted my invitation
> to visit my new website. It is aimed at those that like sourdough. I have
> posted it all over the internet.

You found a good many of the places where sourdough is discussed.
Possibly you are ready to lurk and read FAQs and do the various things
appropriate to prepare oneself for Usenet posting. After that you might want
to refine your SD baking procedures according to the best cogent
information you can find, and to whatever innovations may seem reasonable
to you after you, or others, thoroughly test and improve your procedures,
and give some further thought to your sourdough web page.

With respect to your pandering of a dry start, you might first compare the
revivability of your starts to such standards as Carl's (www.carlsfriends.org)
and to Mr. Baker's specifically ordered from http://tinyurl.com/6vm9g who
supply it fresh even though that brand continues to be undated.

--
Dick Adams
<firstname> dot <lastname> at bigfoot dot com
___________________
Sourdough FAQ guide at
http://www.nyx.net/~dgreenw/sourdoughfaqs.html

Personally, one of my favorite reasons that I like using sourdough to
make my bread, is because I am free from buying commercial yeast. The
fact that you can make great bread basicly by just having flour and
water makes my little chest puff up and gives me a self sufficient
smirk. The great community of nice people that kindly offer to share
free starter to fellow bakers strengthens my resolve to stay this way.
Besides Carlsfriends, just about anybody here, including myself, would
give or send free starter to someone in need. Its part of the fun. My
own reaction when visiting a sourdough website that offers to sell
starter is to flee, and never visit again, and I urge anyone else to do
the same (sorry to all you otherwise great advice givers, but I dont
visit you sites either, if your selling starter). A suggestion? Remove
the $tarter offer if you are going to advertise here, you will only get
bad press.

hutchndi

Yep, and this makes good sense, however I am trying to help feed my
children and be responsible for doing so myself. Sometimes people just
need to make a living. I am trying to do so with my own hard work and
ingenuity.
Teresa
northwestsourdough.com

On 18 Feb 2006 09:21:30 -0800, " > wrote:

>Yep, and this makes good sense, however I am trying to help feed my
>children and be responsible for doing so myself. Sometimes people just
>need to make a living. I am trying to do so with my own hard work and
>ingenuity.
>Teresa


All of us with families do our best to provide for them and most of us
do so honestly and without annoying other people while we do it.

I, for one, feel you need to be reported to gmail as a repeated
spammer.

Boron

"Boron Elgar" > in message
said to about the announcement
of http://www.northwestsourdough.com

> I, for one, feel you need to be reported to gmail as a repeated
> spammer.

Who would have figured that old Boron could be cantankerous?
Well, that's good -- newsgroups these days need all the help they
can get for discouraging inappropriate posts. I have long believed
that positive inducements to avoid useless posts should be
encouraged.

Well, there is yet another constructive suggestion that might be added:
Somebody familiar with the better mail-order starters might usefully,
and in the public interest, check out a packet of the "northwest"
starter and post a brief report, particularly with respect to time to
revive and leavening ability.

--
Dicky

northwestsourdough.com wrote:

> Yep, and this makes good sense, however I am trying to help feed my
> children and be responsible for doing so myself. Sometimes people just
> need to make a living. I am trying to do so with my own hard work and
> ingenuity.

And you're teaching your children that they can steal other people's
time, money, and energy in doing so. I've heard it from the source
itself, one of the sysadmins for AOL and speaking in an official
capacity: monthly charges would be $3 less a month if it wasn't for
spammers.

Would you pay for an ad? If not, why not?

Boron's right about reporting you to gmail, much good that will do. But
if you're using your site to mail your spam from, you may find it on
many of the block lists.

B/

northwestsourdough.com wrote:
> Hi,
> I have a new website which sells sourdough starter, but also has a lot
> of free information about
> recipes, techniques, and pictures of sourdough bread baked at home. You
> can print out the information for free. You may find some techniques to
> help you bake sourdough bread. I thankyou for the opportunity to show
> off my new site and I hope you can find something useful.
>
> Happy Baking,
> http://www.northwestsourdough.com

I just wanted to say that I think it is great that you have a site
promoting sourdough bread and I am happy to see that you have created
such a nice site. Not sure why so many folks are threatened by your
site. The more the better. Just more opportunities for folks to get
'hooked' on healthy homemade sourdough breads!

I guess you cannot please everyone! Hope you do well and make a bunch
of money!

John

I just wanted to say that I think it is great that you have a site
promoting sourdough bread and I am happy to see that you have created
such a nice site. Not sure why so many folks are threatened by your
site. The more the better. Just more opportunities for folks to get
'hooked' on healthy homemade sourdough breads!

I guess you cannot please everyone! Hope you do well and make a bunch
of money!


John


I just wanted to thankyou John for your kindness and Will I also
thankyou for your comments, I just wanted to say that I only listed my
invitation to visit my website ONCE on each site had something to do
with bread or cooking, and then I thanked the site for allowing me to
do so because I got such an overwhelming response on my site.
I think some of the repeats you are seeing are people quoting me. I
don't intend to make any more invitations, I did reply to a few of the
comments made to me. I do like thanking people. I know that there were
a few unkind comments made to me, I didn't understand how upset some
people were about that kind of an invitation. However, I personally
recieved very many kind replies and comments and I thank all of you who
made them.
Teresa
northwestsourdough.com

northwestsourdough.com wrote:

> ... I didn't understand how upset some
> people were about that kind of an invitation.

An invitation to lighten wallets.

> I know that there were few unkind comments made to me,

Few have been "unkind," in fact, some have gone out of their way to
educate you.

B/

Brian Mailman wrote:

> northwestsourdough.com wrote:
>
> > I know that there were few unkind comments made to me,
>
> Few have been "unkind," in fact, some have gone out of their way to
> educate you.

This is not a "site" like a web site, it's a Usenet discussion group.
Not only that, there's an email list attached to it. It is not a
bulletin board at the laundromat to pin up announcements.

What you have done is walked into a group of people having a
conversation and interrupted trying to sell them something. Would you
appreciate that if it happened to you?

B/

Brian Mailman wrote:
> Brian Mailman wrote:
>
>> northwestsourdough.com wrote:
>>
>> > I know that there were few unkind comments made to me,
>>
>> Few have been "unkind," in fact, some have gone out of their way to
>> educate you.
>
>
> This is not a "site" like a web site, it's a Usenet discussion group.
> Not only that, there's an email list attached to it. It is not a
> bulletin board at the laundromat to pin up announcements.
>
> What you have done is walked into a group of people having a
> conversation and interrupted trying to sell them something. Would you
> appreciate that if it happened to you?
>
> B/
Geez, guys, cut her a little slack, for once.

She did post ONE TIME, and got thoroughly flamed by multiple peole, who
are burning one hell of a lot more bandwidth than Teresa ever did in the
first place. She's not forcing you to read her posts, and cetainly not
forcing you to buy her culture. If the instructions and recipes on her
site could use a little improvement, so what? Did *you* start out,
knowing everything?

If the group of people having a conversation here would just go back to
what they were doing, the whole thing would blow over. Try welcoming her
and giving her a little kind advice, like a few have done, instead of
trying to play moderator!

Dave

Here is the link to the usenet advertising policy.

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/adve.../how-to/part1/

Essentially, one is allowed on a "one-time" basis to make a commercial
announcement. The policy is well explained. It goes into some depth
discussing why use-net and google groups ARE NOT commercial space.

Sourdough is a wonderful thing. Stick around and post with us. But be
careful with the business. It has a better chance if you play fair.

Will