wrote:

> On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 18:22:06 -0500, George Shirley
> > wrote:
>
>
>>I need to get out there and pick the purple beans, the squash, more
>>peppers, lettuce, and I believe some tomatoes are ripe now. Eat yer
>>heart out Edrena. Of course you would have to give up that dry air you
>>have if you had our rain. It's all a compromise.
>>
>
>
> This spring (like last spring), we're having so much rain I
> cannot get things planted. Can't get to the garden, the mud
> on the paths is so deep and slick I just fall down in it
> each time I try. (I have raised beds, so my plants
> themselves are OK, not drowning as they otherwise would).
>
> Well, the tomatoes are in. Most of the peppers are in, but
> that's where it stands. I need to get the rest of the
> peppers in, the eggplants, and plant the pole beans,
> cucumbers, bush beans, chard and other assorted stuff.
>
> Our season is quite short, all of this needs to be done ASAP
> - as soon as it stops raining!
>
> Pat


I'm in the same boat. It has rained for the past couple of weekends;
during the week it starts drying out, and by the next weekend it's
raining again without ever have gotten plantable (except maybe Thursday
afternoon while I am at work).

I've been outside planting this morning (it's supposed to rain this
afternoon), and now headed out to get back tuit.

-bob

wrote:

> On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 20:51:48 GMT, Reg >
> wrote:

>> KWH/day Cost/day Cost/Month
>>Fridge #1 1.91 $0.34 $10.64
>>Fridge #2 1.16 $0.21 $6.48
>
>
> This amount may not be significant to some, but it is to me.

It's not a huge expense but it's not exactly invisible either.
It also shows how much more efficient appliances have become.
The older one costs significantly more to run.

--
Reg email: RegForte (at) (that free MS email service) (dot) com

wrote:

> On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 17:38:13 -0500, George Shirley
> > wrote:
>
>
>>Wow! That seems high to me. We have a 2000 sq. ft living area home that
>>is air conditioned for about 10 months out of the year. Have a 15 cu ft
>>freezer and a 17 cu ft refrigerator with a 3 cu ft freezer on top. Total
>>electric bill runs about $75.00 per month on average.
>>
>
>
> George, I've found - from newsgroups and mailing lists and
> moving 3 times in 5 years - that the cost per kilowatt hour
> varies tremendously in different places across the USA.
>
> Pat
> --
> To email me, remove the trap and type my first
> name in its place.
>
> "Rats and roaches live by competition under the laws of
> supply and demand. It is the privilege of human beings to
> live under the laws of justice and mercy." - Wendell Berry

About the same as real estate taxes. When we lived in Texas a smaller
home cost us $3600 a year in real estate taxes and this 2000 sq. ft.
monster costs about $186.00 a year in ret. Over in Texas my light bill,
on a total electric house, ran about $200 a month. Our PUC regulates the
utilities a lot closer than Texas did. Oh yeah, I live in Louisiana now.

George

wrote:

> On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 18:22:06 -0500, George Shirley
> > wrote:
>
>
>>I need to get out there and pick the purple beans, the squash, more
>>peppers, lettuce, and I believe some tomatoes are ripe now. Eat yer
>>heart out Edrena. Of course you would have to give up that dry air you
>>have if you had our rain. It's all a compromise.
>>
>
>
> This spring (like last spring), we're having so much rain I
> cannot get things planted. Can't get to the garden, the mud
> on the paths is so deep and slick I just fall down in it
> each time I try. (I have raised beds, so my plants
> themselves are OK, not drowning as they otherwise would).
>
> Well, the tomatoes are in. Most of the peppers are in, but
> that's where it stands. I need to get the rest of the
> peppers in, the eggplants, and plant the pole beans,
> cucumbers, bush beans, chard and other assorted stuff.
>
> Our season is quite short, all of this needs to be done ASAP
> - as soon as it stops raining!
>
> Pat
> --
> To email me, remove the trap and type my first
> name in its place.
>
> "Rats and roaches live by competition under the laws of
> supply and demand. It is the privilege of human beings to
> live under the laws of justice and mercy." - Wendell Berry

I picked about 3 quarts of pole beans, not bad for a row that's about 15
feet long. Got three big bell peppers, only a couple of tomatoes, one
eggplant, one Tatume squash, and a lone plum. I'm still happy with the
crops so far. We could use some of your rain. I'm running the soaker
hoses again.

George

On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 08:28:24 -0400
wrote:

>
> This amount may not be significant to some, but it is to me.
>
> Pat


Agreed money is certainly significant. However, if spending this
is going to yield a lot more returns and if it is affordable,
then this is good. If not then the idea can't be pursued.

By the way, thanks for all your responses/assistance in
misc.consumers.frugal-living in the past.

Best Wishes,

Vijay

George Shirley wrote:

> The Joneses wrote:
> > Derric wrote:
> >
> >
> >>of this, "all" the spores would have become active and killed.)
> >
> >
> > Yeah, but all the flavor, color, and crispness would be killed, too. Havta
> > buy my veggies from the store until Santa brings me a pressure canner.
> > Altho, freezing is the best IMO. Would be nice to move next door to George
> > or someplace where there's enuf rain to grow veggies.
> > Edrena
> >
> >
> We lived on the West Coast of Saudi Arabia for five years, reminded me a
> lot of El Paso. Thorn trees (similar to mesquite) growing in a wide
> rocky desert but with the Red Sea on one side. We managed to grow a lot
> of things there, just add plenty of water. Luckily there was grey water
> available, treated waste water. We had orchids, frangipani trees, a Bo
> tree, and lots of veggies. Put a straw hat on the Arabs and you would
> swear you were in El Paso del Norte.
>
> I need to get out there and pick the purple beans, the squash, more
> peppers, lettuce, and I believe some tomatoes are ripe now. Eat yer
> heart out Edrena. Of course you would have to give up that dry air you
> have if you had our rain. It's all a compromise.
>
> George

Ha! Been eatin a few 'maters for a coupla weeks now. Not big mind you.
Edrena saving the water for the beds.

On Mon, 31 May 2004 20:41:55 -0500, Kacey Barriss
> wrote:

Personally 20 minutes to pressure can vs 2-3 hours per batch
of green beans is worth it.

I put up over 100 pints of beans each season.

I have even started pressure canning tomatoe sauce just for
this reason.

>This is a low acid product and would have to be pressure canned. I also
>have read recipes for BWB a low acid recipe for 2 -3 hours - still
>doesn't make it safe. Still doesn't kill the bacteria in low acid foods.
>



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