On 24 Oct 2004 12:00:37 GMT, (Bpyboy) wrote:

>Just wondering what you guys pack in for hicking, canoe trips, or other
>extended trips where you need to hump the food in on your back?

Pemmican. Nothing beats pemmican for nutritional compactness and shelf
life. It could be your only food. I both make my own and have bought some
from Grasslands Beef. I don't know just how good their shelf life is. They
are required to say keep it frozen. For mine I know I got all the moisture
out, so I've had no problem keeping mine on the shelf for many months.

Mine also has a lot more meat than theirs. Theirs has a high fat content.
Then they add a little honey and salt to theirs, which I can taste. Mine is
plain. Theirs is soft, mine is hard as a rock.

Don <donwiss at panix.com>.

On 24 Oct 2004 12:00:37 GMT, (Bpyboy) wrote:

>Just wondering what you guys pack in for hicking, canoe trips, or other
>extended trips where you need to hump the food in on your back?

Pemmican. Nothing beats pemmican for nutritional compactness and shelf
life. It could be your only food. I both make my own and have bought some
from Grasslands Beef. I don't know just how good their shelf life is. They
are required to say keep it frozen. For mine I know I got all the moisture
out, so I've had no problem keeping mine on the shelf for many months.

Mine also has a lot more meat than theirs. Theirs has a high fat content.
Then they add a little honey and salt to theirs, which I can taste. Mine is
plain. Theirs is soft, mine is hard as a rock.

Don <donwiss at panix.com>.

take lots of carbohydrates for energy and don't worry too much about anything
else. you'll need about twice the daily recommended calories when paddlign
or hiking all day than for normal living at home.

There is a recipe for "vegetarian pemmican" on my website at
www.ncf.ca/~ag384/Food.htm. I take it paddling, cycling, and watching
movies on videos in front of the TV. I worked it out with a home made
nutrition spreadsheet a few years ago.

The home made nutrition spreadsheet is also on my website. It's DOS
program. I made a separate spreadsheet for paddling, cyucling, and hiking
which calculates the size and weight of the food in addition to the cost
and nutrition.

Bpyboy ) writes:
> It might be sort of off topic, but maybe not?
>
> Just wondering what you guys pack in for hicking, canoe trips, or other
> extended trips where you need to hump the food in on your back?
>
> I'm reading "The Hungry Hiker's book" (excellent by the way), and would like to
> test out some of the foods.
>
> My staples on the trail are lots of pasta, peanut butter, jerky, nuts, dried
> fruit (GORP!) and tons of powdered Gatorade. Of course I also take some
> multivitimins, as such a diet doesn't even come close to the recomended daily
> nutrition.
>
> Any other book suggestions for outdoor backpacking type foods? I'd like to try
> and increase my list to include maybe dried mixed veggies (maybe powder dried
> veggies so they cook very fast?), maybe dried potatoes to replace the carbs in
> some of the pasta? (any good sauce recipes that can be dried, or that keep
> well?)

rice and rolled oats.
pick your own fresh veggies on the trail.

>
> It's just the older i get, the more comfortable i prefer to be out in the
> sticks! back in the day, i was never too concerned with it, but honestly the
> peanut butter and "John Wayne crakers" are getting VERY OLD!
>
> Thanks for any advice/book or site recomendations.
> John
>
> ps, any good red or white sauce recipes? I have had good luck drying the
> meatless/non-dairy ones, and re-hydrating them on the trail, even with my stove
> who's heat control is basically FULL BLAST or OFF. It would be good to have
> them all pre-seasoned, so it would really be a "just add water" kind of deal on
> the trail.


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There are so many vegies that you can dehydrate. I bet you could come up
with a homemade dry soup concoction...just add water?...get a Tillia food
saver....you can actually cook with the bag!
Don't forget that there are cheap instant potatoes on the market,
lightweight, and easy to make...add some vegies or cheese...or meat. And
then there are the dried fruits....

--
Judith

"The older I get....the less I know!"

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"Bpyboy" > wrote in message
...
> It might be sort of off topic, but maybe not?
>
> Just wondering what you guys pack in for hicking, canoe trips, or other
> extended trips where you need to hump the food in on your back?
>
> I'm reading "The Hungry Hiker's book" (excellent by the way), and would
like to
> test out some of the foods.
>
> My staples on the trail are lots of pasta, peanut butter, jerky, nuts,
dried
> fruit (GORP!) and tons of powdered Gatorade. Of course I also take some
> multivitimins, as such a diet doesn't even come close to the recomended
daily
> nutrition.
>
> Any other book suggestions for outdoor backpacking type foods? I'd like
to try
> and increase my list to include maybe dried mixed veggies (maybe powder
dried
> veggies so they cook very fast?), maybe dried potatoes to replace the
carbs in
> some of the pasta? (any good sauce recipes that can be dried, or that keep
> well?)
>
> It's just the older i get, the more comfortable i prefer to be out in the
> sticks! back in the day, i was never too concerned with it, but honestly
the
> peanut butter and "John Wayne crakers" are getting VERY OLD!
>
> Thanks for any advice/book or site recomendations.
> John
>
> ps, any good red or white sauce recipes? I have had good luck drying the
> meatless/non-dairy ones, and re-hydrating them on the trail, even with my
stove
> who's heat control is basically FULL BLAST or OFF. It would be good to
have
> them all pre-seasoned, so it would really be a "just add water" kind of
deal on
> the trail.

There are so many vegies that you can dehydrate. I bet you could come up
with a homemade dry soup concoction...just add water?...get a Tillia food
saver....you can actually cook with the bag!
Don't forget that there are cheap instant potatoes on the market,
lightweight, and easy to make...add some vegies or cheese...or meat. And
then there are the dried fruits....

--
Judith

"The older I get....the less I know!"

Visit my site at:
http://members.tripod.com/haunted18
"Bpyboy" > wrote in message
...
> It might be sort of off topic, but maybe not?
>
> Just wondering what you guys pack in for hicking, canoe trips, or other
> extended trips where you need to hump the food in on your back?
>
> I'm reading "The Hungry Hiker's book" (excellent by the way), and would
like to
> test out some of the foods.
>
> My staples on the trail are lots of pasta, peanut butter, jerky, nuts,
dried
> fruit (GORP!) and tons of powdered Gatorade. Of course I also take some
> multivitimins, as such a diet doesn't even come close to the recomended
daily
> nutrition.
>
> Any other book suggestions for outdoor backpacking type foods? I'd like
to try
> and increase my list to include maybe dried mixed veggies (maybe powder
dried
> veggies so they cook very fast?), maybe dried potatoes to replace the
carbs in
> some of the pasta? (any good sauce recipes that can be dried, or that keep
> well?)
>
> It's just the older i get, the more comfortable i prefer to be out in the
> sticks! back in the day, i was never too concerned with it, but honestly
the
> peanut butter and "John Wayne crakers" are getting VERY OLD!
>
> Thanks for any advice/book or site recomendations.
> John
>
> ps, any good red or white sauce recipes? I have had good luck drying the
> meatless/non-dairy ones, and re-hydrating them on the trail, even with my
stove
> who's heat control is basically FULL BLAST or OFF. It would be good to
have
> them all pre-seasoned, so it would really be a "just add water" kind of
deal on
> the trail.

Judith Cook wrote:

> There are so many vegies that you can dehydrate. I bet you could come up
> with a homemade dry soup concoction...just add water?...get a Tillia food
> saver....you can actually cook with the bag!
> Don't forget that there are cheap instant potatoes on the market,
> lightweight, and easy to make...add some vegies or cheese...or meat. And
> then there are the dried fruits....

Don't forget dried herbs & spices like tarragon, oregano, thyme, margoram,
garlic and onion powder or chips, chiles, some cinnamon to add to hot chocolate
and coffee, ditto for cloves. Some ginger or nutmeg to add to a powdered
egg/powdered milk custard sort of mix; very nutritious as well. I never made
that, but even the instant varieties could use some help.
Edrena