Jean B. a écrit :
> Christophe Bachmann wrote:
>> Giusi a écrit :
>>> "Martin" > ha scritto nel messaggio
>>> .. .
>>>> Just curious, how large is a lemon - and what are we buying in the
>>>> shops?
>>>> In a 18th century recipe (as I remember it) there is mention of
>>>> three types
>>>> of "lemons".
>>>> The largest is a "Citron" (which is funny because lemon is "citron" in
>>>> Swedish; and French of course), then somewhat smaller is the
>>>> "Lemon", and
>>>> the smallest one is the "Lime". So what are the lemons we buy in the
>>>> shop?
>>>> Lemons or Citrons?
>>>
>>> Here in Italy it depends on the season. Curerently we are getting
>>> small greenish lemons from South Africa that are sometimes dry and
>>> sometimes juicy. I like it when the big fat Sorrento lemons are in
>>> season, bumpy and lovely and the best for limoncello.
>>>
>>> Are you a reader of the blog "18th century food"?
>>>
>> Here we have pictures of the citron (cédrat)
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citron
>>
>> the lemon (citron)
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemon
>>
>> and the lime (citron vert)
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lime_(fruit)
>>
>> The differences are notable and enable to determine what you have in
>> your stores.
>
> That obviously is no melon! The rind reminds me a bit of the more bumpy
> kaffir lime, which is also used for rind (and leaves) as vs, fruit.
> Interesting.
>
Obviously, none is a melon ! ;-)

But more seriously if what you have is bumpy and a quite big fruit it
could be a citron (cédrat) perhaps a diamante.

Size really is a good indicator in this case.
--
Greetings, Salutations,
Guiraud Belissen, Chteau du Ciel, Drachenwald,
Chris CII, Rennes, France

Christophe Bachmann wrote:
> Jean B. a écrit :
>> Christophe Bachmann wrote:
>>> Giusi a écrit :
>>>> "Martin" > ha scritto nel messaggio
>>>> .. .
>>>>> Just curious, how large is a lemon - and what are we buying in the
>>>>> shops?
>>>>> In a 18th century recipe (as I remember it) there is mention of
>>>>> three types
>>>>> of "lemons".
>>>>> The largest is a "Citron" (which is funny because lemon is "citron" in
>>>>> Swedish; and French of course), then somewhat smaller is the
>>>>> "Lemon", and
>>>>> the smallest one is the "Lime". So what are the lemons we buy in
>>>>> the shop?
>>>>> Lemons or Citrons?
>>>>
>>>> Here in Italy it depends on the season. Curerently we are getting
>>>> small greenish lemons from South Africa that are sometimes dry and
>>>> sometimes juicy. I like it when the big fat Sorrento lemons are in
>>>> season, bumpy and lovely and the best for limoncello.
>>>>
>>>> Are you a reader of the blog "18th century food"?
>>>>
>>> Here we have pictures of the citron (cédrat)
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citron
>>>
>>> the lemon (citron)
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemon
>>>
>>> and the lime (citron vert)
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lime_(fruit)
>>>
>>> The differences are notable and enable to determine what you have in
>>> your stores.
>>
>> That obviously is no melon! The rind reminds me a bit of the more
>> bumpy kaffir lime, which is also used for rind (and leaves) as vs,
>> fruit. Interesting.
>>
> Obviously, none is a melon ! ;-)
>
> But more seriously if what you have is bumpy and a quite big fruit it
> could be a citron (cédrat) perhaps a diamante.
>
> Size really is a good indicator in this case.

I deleted a previous post, which would explain my melon comment.
I have seen citron referred to as a melon in old books, and it
obviously isn't one!

--
Jean B.

Jean B. a écrit :
>
> I deleted a previous post, which would explain my melon comment. I have
> seen citron referred to as a melon in old books, and it obviously isn't
> one!
>
Perhaps this note taken from :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watermelon
can help.

[i]n the Kalahari desert, the ancestral melon grows wild and is known as
the Tsamma melon (Citrullus lanatus var tastius). It is also known in
Zimbabwe as 'nwiwa, mwiwa or iswe'. The flesh is similar to the rind of
a watermelon and is often known as citron melon (distinct from the
actual citron, of the citrus family); It has established itself in the
wild in Baja California.

And :
Watermelon rinds are also edible, and sometimes used as a vegetable.
Pickled watermelon rind is also commonly consumed in the Southern US.

When one knows that citron is one of the most widely used candied peel
fruits, confusion is not completely excluded, but I still don't see
exactly how.
--
Greetings, Salutations,
Guiraud Belissen, Chteau du Ciel, Drachenwald,
Chris CII, Rennes, France

Christophe Bachmann wrote:[i]
> Jean B. a écrit :
>>
>> I deleted a previous post, which would explain my melon comment. I
>> have seen citron referred to as a melon in old books, and it obviously
>> isn't one!
>>
> Perhaps this note taken from :
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watermelon
> can help.
>
> n the Kalahari desert, the ancestral melon grows wild and is known as
> the Tsamma melon (Citrullus lanatus var tastius). It is also known in
> Zimbabwe as 'nwiwa, mwiwa or iswe'. The flesh is similar to the rind of
> a watermelon and is often known as citron melon (distinct from the
> actual citron, of the citrus family); It has established itself in the
> wild in Baja California.
>
> And :
> Watermelon rinds are also edible, and sometimes used as a vegetable.
> Pickled watermelon rind is also commonly consumed in the Southern US.
>
> When one knows that citron is one of the most widely used candied peel
> fruits, confusion is not completely excluded, but I still don't see
> exactly how.

This would have been in old US cookbooks, so I doubt they would
have been alluding to a melon from the Kalahari desert. The only
reason this mention of it being a melon stuck in my mind was that
it struck me as so odd--and it is obviously wrong.

I was out book-hunting today, but maybe tomorrow or the next day I
can look in a few books here.

--
Jean B.