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It's late at night and I can't sleep. So my mind is wandering to
unimportant things. :-) I notice in the various Thanksgiving threads that some people use the term stuffing and some use dressing. I've always called it stuffing, as have most of the people I know. To me, dressing is something you put on salad. Is the difference in terminology a regional thing? ttfn, jan |
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>It's late at night and I can't sleep. So my mind is wandering to >unimportant things. :-) > >I notice in the various Thanksgiving threads that some people >use the term stuffing and some use dressing. I've always called it >stuffing, as have most of the people I know. To me, dressing is >something you put on salad. >Is the difference in terminology a regional thing? I'm with you -- it's stuffing. When it's called dressing, I picture it as wetter. I like my stuffing semi-dry. Steve |
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On Mon 21 Nov 2005 09:47:14p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it ?
> It's late at night and I can't sleep. So my mind is wandering to > unimportant things. :-) > > I notice in the various Thanksgiving threads that some people > use the term stuffing and some use dressing. I've always called it > stuffing, as have most of the people I know. To me, dressing is > something you put on salad. > > Is the difference in terminology a regional thing? > > ttfn, > jan Maybe somewhat regional. Seems to be called "dressing" more in the southern US. IMHO, the same mixture cooked inside the turkey is called stuffing, but called dressing when cooked in a baking dish or casserole. -- Wayne Boatwright *¿* _____________________________________________ A chicken in every pot is a *LOT* of chicken! |
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On Mon 21 Nov 2005 09:57:26p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Steve Pope?
> > wrote: > >>It's late at night and I can't sleep. So my mind is wandering to >>unimportant things. :-) >> >>I notice in the various Thanksgiving threads that some people >>use the term stuffing and some use dressing. I've always called it >>stuffing, as have most of the people I know. To me, dressing is >>something you put on salad. > >>Is the difference in terminology a regional thing? > > I'm with you -- it's stuffing. > > When it's called dressing, I picture it as wetter. I like > my stuffing semi-dry. > > Steve > There are lots of kinds of stuffings, some dry and some wet. That isn't the criteria. There can also be dry or wet dressings, baked in a dish. -- Wayne Boatwright *¿* _____________________________________________ A chicken in every pot is a *LOT* of chicken! |
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Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>On Mon 21 Nov 2005 09:57:26p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Steve Pope? >> When it's called dressing, I picture it as wetter. I like >> my stuffing semi-dry. >There are lots of kinds of stuffings, some dry and some wet. That isn't >the criteria. There can also be dry or wet dressings, baked in a dish. In my experience, being baked in a dish isn't one of the criteria for it being called dressing. And again in my experience, people who call it dressing (I consider this the minority) are more likely to prefer the wetter variety. This includes many hof-brau style cafeteria restaurants that serve turkey and stuffing/dressing year round. But mostly the words are interchangeable. Steve |
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>I think it's a regional thing. Here in the South I hear it called
>dressing, but other regions and on tv it's referred to as stuffing. It's dressing out West-- at least in Oregon/Idaho where I grew up. "Stuffing" was something you saw on TV that came in a box. One might order "turkey and dressing" at a resturaunt but never "turkey and stuffing." We're having dressing on Thursday, even though we're in Minnesota now. |
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![]() > wrote in message ... > It's late at night and I can't sleep. So my mind is wandering to > unimportant things. :-) > > I notice in the various Thanksgiving threads that some people > use the term stuffing and some use dressing. I've always called it > stuffing, as have most of the people I know. To me, dressing is > something you put on salad. > > Is the difference in terminology a regional thing? > > ttfn, > jan I suppose it depends on which you enjoy more; to be a stuffer or a dresser. David |
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On 21 Nov 2005 21:58:26 -0800, "Kiwanda in Minnesota"
> wrote: >>I think it's a regional thing. Here in the South I hear it called >>dressing, but other regions and on tv it's referred to as stuffing. > >It's dressing out West-- at least in Oregon/Idaho where I grew up. In Oregon/Washington where I grew up, it was either stuffing or dressing. >"Stuffing" was something you saw on TV that came in a box. Of course, I grew up *well* before Stove Top. >One might order "turkey and dressing" at a resturaunt but never "turkey and >stuffing." Agreed to that--but I've often heard the terms used interchangeably during the Thanksgiving or Christmas dinner, as in "Please pass the <stuffing/dressing>." -- -denny- "Do your thoughts call ahead or do they just arrive at your mouth unannounced?" "It's come as you are, baby." -over the hedge |
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On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 05:12:08 GMT, Reg > wrote:
wrote: > >> It's late at night and I can't sleep. So my mind is wandering to >> unimportant things. :-) >> >> I notice in the various Thanksgiving threads that some people >> use the term stuffing and some use dressing. I've always called it >> stuffing, as have most of the people I know. To me, dressing is >> something you put on salad. >> >> Is the difference in terminology a regional thing? > >I once saw a report about demographic specific food marketing >that used stuffing/dressing as an example. It was said that in >order to better target African American families one company >began calling their boxed stuffing product dressing. Interesting. I used to call it stuffing -- as did my family. Then it occurred to me (a big DUH moment) that we don't stuff the bird with it, we cook it along side. I now call it dressing. FTR, my dressing is on the drier side, not like the wet goo stuffing I grew up with! TammyM |
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On Mon 21 Nov 2005 10:08:17p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Steve Pope?
> Wayne Boatwright > wrote: > >>On Mon 21 Nov 2005 09:57:26p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Steve Pope? > >>> When it's called dressing, I picture it as wetter. I like my >>> stuffing semi-dry. > >>There are lots of kinds of stuffings, some dry and some wet. That isn't >>the criteria. There can also be dry or wet dressings, baked in a dish. > > In my experience, being baked in a dish isn't one of the > criteria for it being called dressing. And again in my > experience, people who call it dressing (I consider this the minority) > are more likely to prefer the wetter variety. This includes > many hof-brau style cafeteria restaurants that serve turkey > and stuffing/dressing year round. We've obviously had different experiences. :-) > But mostly the words are interchangeable. Obviously they are. -- Wayne Boatwright *¿* _____________________________________________ A chicken in every pot is a *LOT* of chicken! |
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On Tue 22 Nov 2005 12:01:52a, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it David Hare-
Scott? > > > wrote in message > ... >> It's late at night and I can't sleep. So my mind is wandering to >> unimportant things. :-) >> >> I notice in the various Thanksgiving threads that some people >> use the term stuffing and some use dressing. I've always called it >> stuffing, as have most of the people I know. To me, dressing is >> something you put on salad. >> >> Is the difference in terminology a regional thing? >> >> ttfn, >> jan > > I suppose it depends on which you enjoy more; to be a stuffer or a dresser. > > David Or to be stuffed or dressed. -- Wayne Boatwright *¿* _____________________________________________ A chicken in every pot is a *LOT* of chicken! |
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Roberta > wrote in
news:PmDgf.10195$mm5.2078@dukeread03: > wrote: >> It's late at night and I can't sleep. So my mind is wandering to >> unimportant things. :-) >> >> I notice in the various Thanksgiving threads that some people >> use the term stuffing and some use dressing. I've always called it >> stuffing, as have most of the people I know. To me, dressing is >> something you put on salad. >> >> Is the difference in terminology a regional thing? >> >> ttfn, >> jan > > > I found an article somewhere on the internet last time this came > up....I can't find it now ![]() > 1800's it was called stuffing and then people started calling it > dressing because it sounded more "proper". I personally call in the > bird stuffing, out dressing. *shrug* I don't think I've heard the term dressing used outside this news group. I've only ever referred to it as stuffing here (my part of NSW, Australia). Mind you, I think this group was the first time I ever saw references to cooking it outside the chicken/turkey. I'd never seen that done here, but that could just be my sheltered upbringing <g>. Rhonda Anderson Cranebrook, NSW, Australia |
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![]() "Rhonda Anderson" > wrote in message .5... > I don't think I've heard the term dressing used outside this news > group. > I've only ever referred to it as stuffing here (my part of NSW, > Australia). Mind you, I think this group was the first time I ever saw > references to cooking it outside the chicken/turkey. I'd never seen > that > done here, but that could just be my sheltered upbringing <g>. I have never heard the term dressing outside this group either. I did used to cook stuffing outside the bird in a tin many years ago because we liked extra |
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![]() "Steve Pope" > wrote > people who call it dressing (I consider this the minority) > are more likely to prefer the wetter variety. I know how I like my dressing/stuffing, nothing special but I love it, you can put what you want in it for yourself, fruit, nuts, I don't care. But wet runny dressing makes me want to hurl. Just seeing people on tv pouring it into a dish ... ugh, what are they thinking? nancy |
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Hi Jan:
It appears to be regional to some extent at least. In this part of Kentucky, I rarely hear "stuffing" but have been told----as others have on this thread----that 'stuffing' goes in the bird, 'dressing' is a separate dish. As if that doesn't muddy the waters enough.... in the region of PA where I was raised, a lot of the folks made "filling". My siblings and parents still call it "filling" to this day. Best regards -- Terry |
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![]() "Nancy Young" > wrote in message ... > > "Steve Pope" > wrote > >> people who call it dressing (I consider this the minority) >> are more likely to prefer the wetter variety. > > I know how I like my dressing/stuffing, nothing special but > I love it, you can put what you want in it for yourself, fruit, > nuts, I don't care. > > But wet runny dressing makes me want to hurl. Just seeing > people on tv pouring it into a dish ... ugh, what are they thinking? > > nancy And with dry stuffing, you can put all the gravy you want on top to make it as wet as you like; not like the turkey dressing/stuffing I can still remember having in Canada on their day for turkey -- OMG almost runny towards the rest of the servings on your plate and sorta greyish looking. I often wonder if ALL of Canada makes it this way -- the restaurant had the word Gourmet in the title of it as I recall and a fru-fru looking outside-type dining inside and fern plants abound. We were dressed as Americans, not in a jacket and tie as they were for the big day; perhaps they thought we had no taste and got the dregs -- tee hee. Back on point, is this the usual way in Canada; I have never seen this before or since. Dee Dee |
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Canadians, make all kinds of different stuffings/ dressings. (I call
the stuff that comes out of the bird stuffing, baked on the side dressing.) The more water around the bird, or the more you baste, the wetter your stuffing will be. I don't add water or baste, in fact I grate carrot into the stuffing, and dice both celery and onion into it for flavour color and moisture. Dee Randall wrote: > "Nancy Young" > wrote in message > ... > > > > "Steve Pope" > wrote > > > >> people who call it dressing (I consider this the minority) > >> are more likely to prefer the wetter variety. > > > > I know how I like my dressing/stuffing, nothing special but > > I love it, you can put what you want in it for yourself, fruit, > > nuts, I don't care. > > > > But wet runny dressing makes me want to hurl. Just seeing > > people on tv pouring it into a dish ... ugh, what are they thinking? > > > > nancy > And with dry stuffing, you can put all the gravy you want on top to make it > as wet as you like; not like the turkey dressing/stuffing I can still > remember having in Canada on their day for turkey -- OMG almost runny > towards the rest of the servings on your plate and sorta greyish looking. I > often wonder if ALL of Canada makes it this way -- the restaurant had the > word Gourmet in the title of it as I recall and a fru-fru looking > outside-type dining inside and fern plants abound. We were dressed as > Americans, not in a jacket and tie as they were for the big day; perhaps > they thought we had no taste and got the dregs -- tee hee. > Back on point, is this the usual way in Canada; I have never seen this > before or since. > Dee Dee |
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> It appears to be regional to some extent at least. In this part of > Kentucky, I rarely hear "stuffing" but have been told----as others have > on this thread----that 'stuffing' goes in the bird, 'dressing' is a > separate dish. > > As if that doesn't muddy the waters enough.... in the region of PA > where I was raised, a lot of the folks made "filling". My siblings and > parents still call it "filling" to this day. I'm pretty sure it's a regional thing, but with so much travel and people moving around these days a lot of the regional differences are disappearing. I had come across a web site once that showed a study of where various equivalent words were used and what percentage of the population used them in each area. It also looked at different pronunciations of the same word (you do know the word "coupon" as two pronunuciations, don't you). The results of the study were presented in a graphical form with maps, and you could clearly see how certain words and pronunciations drifted from region to region. At least with stuffing/dressing, there are just two words... for a sandwich made on a long bread roll, there are many, including submarine, hoagie, grinder, poor boy, zeppelin, etc. Where my parents came from (near Norristown, PA), they were called zeppelins, so that's what we called them in our family. Always tended to get strange looks when using that term outside the area... only years later did I find out zeppelin was one of the most geographically restricted of the words used for those sandwiches. -- ( #wff_ng_7# at #verizon# period #net# ) |
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wff_ng_7 wrote:
> I'm pretty sure it's a regional thing, but with so much travel and > people moving around these days a lot of the regional differences are > disappearing. Centuries ago, someone at a dinner table asked "please pass the stuffing" and someone else passed the gravy (dressing) instead and everyone laughed and it's usage today is simply a centuries-old forgotten mistake. You stuff a bird, you don't dress it. -- Andy |
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... > It's late at night and I can't sleep. So my mind is wandering to > unimportant things. :-) > > I notice in the various Thanksgiving threads that some people > use the term stuffing and some use dressing. I've always called it > stuffing, as have most of the people I know. To me, dressing is > something you put on salad. > > Is the difference in terminology a regional thing? > > ttfn, > jan Stuffing is stuffed inside something - hence the name. Dressing is a similar concoction that is cooked without being stuffed inside anything. It can be good but not as good as stuffing. -- Peter Aitken |
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![]() > wrote in message ... > It's late at night and I can't sleep. So my mind is wandering to > unimportant things. :-) > > I notice in the various Thanksgiving threads that some people > use the term stuffing and some use dressing. I've always called it > stuffing, as have most of the people I know. To me, dressing is > something you put on salad. > > Is the difference in terminology a regional thing? > > ttfn, > jan I think dressing means liquid, so I can't use that word for a concoction involving bread. I have a theory about the culture behind the differences in terminology, though. Let's try it here and see what happens. If you describe the turkey side dish as "dressing", where do you and your family fit with regard to these other things? 1) It's September, your kitchen's filled with steam, and you've been filling Ball jars with tomatoes and lowering them into a vat of hot water. Are you: -Canning? -Putting food by? -Putting up food? 2) In early spring and late fall, millions of people go bonkers over a delicious panfish called a crappie. You and yours pronounce it as: - Crappie, with a short "A" as in "crap", "map", etc. - Croppie, with a short "O", as in "mop".You want to say it the other way, but you were taught there'd be hell to pay later. Literally. 3) Do you any wooden country-decor cows or pigs hanging anywhere in your home? 4) On top of your toilet tank, is there a basket containing little soaps that nobody will ever use? |
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![]() > wrote in message ... > It's late at night and I can't sleep. So my mind is wandering to > unimportant things. :-) > > I notice in the various Thanksgiving threads that some people > use the term stuffing and some use dressing. I've always called it > stuffing, as have most of the people I know. To me, dressing is > something you put on salad. > > Is the difference in terminology a regional thing? > > ttfn, > jan Either Dimitri See below: dressing 1. A sauce - usually cold - used to coat or top salads and some cold vegetable, fish and meat dishes. 2. A mixture used to stuff poultry, fish, meat and some vegetables. It can be cooked separately or in the food in which it is stuffed. Dressings (also called stuffings ) are usually well seasoned and based on bread crumbs or cubes - though rice, potatoes and other foods are also used. © Copyright Barron's Educational Services, Inc. 1995 based on THE FOOD LOVER'S COMPANION, 2nd edition, by Sharon Tyler Herbst. |
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![]() "TammyM" > wrote in message ... > On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 05:12:08 GMT, Reg > wrote: > > wrote: > > > >> It's late at night and I can't sleep. So my mind is wandering to > >> unimportant things. :-) > >> > >> I notice in the various Thanksgiving threads that some people > >> use the term stuffing and some use dressing. I've always called it > >> stuffing, as have most of the people I know. To me, dressing is > >> something you put on salad. > >> > >> Is the difference in terminology a regional thing? > > > >I once saw a report about demographic specific food marketing > >that used stuffing/dressing as an example. It was said that in > >order to better target African American families one company > >began calling their boxed stuffing product dressing. > > Interesting. I used to call it stuffing -- as did my family. Then it > occurred to me (a big DUH moment) that we don't stuff the bird with > it, we cook it along side. I now call it dressing. FTR, my dressing > is on the drier side, not like the wet goo stuffing I grew up with! > > TammyM Hey Ho Tammy! My idiosyncratic terminology seems to agree with you. Stuffing is stuffed; in a bird or in pork, etc. Dressing is cooked separately. Charlie, in sunny (81F) Sandy Eggo |
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![]() Dan Goodman wrote: > wrote: > > >>It's late at night and I can't sleep. So my mind is wandering to >>unimportant things. :-) >> >>I notice in the various Thanksgiving threads that some people >>use the term stuffing and some use dressing. I've always called it >>stuffing, as have most of the people I know. To me, dressing is >>something you put on salad. >> >>Is the difference in terminology a regional thing? > > > It's a regional difference. Like bag/sack, or stringbeans/green beans, > or fry pan/frying pan/skillet, or frosting/icing. > > But there are probably areas of overlap where they're used for slightly > different things. > I took an informal poll. I asked everybody I could, about a dozen people in all, what they were serving with their turkeys. Not a single person "dressed" the bird, but at least ten were stuffing it. I asked each of the people who said "stuff", whether they thought that stuffing and dressing were the same. Most didn't even bother to answer, not thinking that such a stupid question deserved an answer. The gourmet stores that send out circulars listing their holiday foods, also mention stuffing, not dressing. I guess in New York City, the poor turkeys run around undressed. |
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![]() "Dimitri" > wrote in message news ![]() > > > wrote in message > ... > > It's late at night and I can't sleep. So my mind is wandering to > > unimportant things. :-) > > > > I notice in the various Thanksgiving threads that some people > > use the term stuffing and some use dressing. I've always called it > > stuffing, as have most of the people I know. To me, dressing is > > something you put on salad. > > > > Is the difference in terminology a regional thing? > > > > ttfn, > > jan > > Either > > Dimitri Dimitri you wimp! Take a stand man! <grin> Charlie |
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> I guess in New York City, the poor turkeys run around undressed. Or the wild ones!!! ![]() -- Andy http://tinyurl.com/dzl7h |
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![]() "Charles Gifford" > wrote in message nk.net... > > Is the difference in terminology a regional thing? >> > >> > ttfn, >> > jan >> >> Either >> >> Dimitri > > Dimitri you wimp! Take a stand man! <grin> > > Charlie LOL, Charlie, There are just some things in life that ain't worth going to the wall over - This may be one. After all this not dressing that takes the cake it's Undressing that has potential. ;-) Dimitri |
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On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:21:03 GMT, "wff_ng_7" >
wrote: > >I had come across a web site once that showed a study of where various >equivalent words were used and what percentage of the population used them >in each area. It also looked at different pronunciations of the same word >(you do know the word "coupon" as two pronunuciations, don't you). coo-pon q-pon > >At least with stuffing/dressing, there are just two words... for a sandwich >made on a long bread roll, there are many, including submarine, hoagie, >grinder, poor boy, zeppelin, etc. Hero, where I come from (Brooklyn). ttfn, jan |
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![]() > wrote in message ... > It's late at night and I can't sleep. So my mind is wandering to > unimportant things. :-) > > I notice in the various Thanksgiving threads that some people > use the term stuffing and some use dressing. I've always called it > stuffing, as have most of the people I know. To me, dressing is > something you put on salad. > > Is the difference in terminology a regional thing? > > ttfn, > jan For me, the difference is in how it's made. Stuffing is, well, stuffed. Into the bird. Dressing is cooked under or separate from the bird. ![]() kimberly |
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![]() On Wed, 23 Nov 2005, Nexis wrote: > > > wrote in message > ... > > It's late at night and I can't sleep. So my mind is wandering to > > unimportant things. :-) > > > > I notice in the various Thanksgiving threads that some people > > use the term stuffing and some use dressing. I've always called it > > stuffing, as have most of the people I know. To me, dressing is > > something you put on salad. > > > > Is the difference in terminology a regional thing? > > > > ttfn, > > jan > > For me, the difference is in how it's made. Stuffing is, well, stuffed. Into > the bird. Dressing is cooked under or separate from the bird. ![]() > > kimberly > Yes, I agree. Dressin' (there is no "g" <vbg>) seems to be a Southern thing and has a cornbread base. Stuffing seems to be a Northern thing and has a white bread base. Dressin' is smooth in texture while stuffing seems to be more "chunky". The white bread of stuffing is often toasted and the finished product often has a crouton look (of course, there are hundreds of recipes). While cornbread dressin' has variations, there is a basic combination of ingredients that is standard from Georgia to the Texas border. With advertising and a mobile society, terminology has traveled and mingled. But 'round here, if it ain't made with cornbread, it aint Dressin'. <grin> Elaine, too |
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![]() Elaine Parrish wrote: > Yes, I agree. Dressin' (there is no "g" <vbg>) seems to be a Southern > thing and has a cornbread base. Stuffing seems to be a Northern thing and > has a white bread base. Dressin' is smooth in texture while stuffing seems > to be more "chunky". The white bread of stuffing is often toasted and the > finished product often has a crouton look (of course, there are hundreds > of recipes). While cornbread dressin' has variations, there is a basic > combination of ingredients that is standard from Georgia to the Texas > border. > > With advertising and a mobile society, terminology has traveled and > mingled. > > But 'round here, if it ain't made with cornbread, it aint Dressin'. <grin> > > Elaine, too Yeppers, Elaine has hit the nail on the head with this definition! |
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On Wed 23 Nov 2005 12:01:23p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it
itsjoannotjoann? > > Elaine Parrish wrote: > >> Yes, I agree. Dressin' (there is no "g" <vbg>) seems to be a Southern >> thing and has a cornbread base. Stuffing seems to be a Northern thing and >> has a white bread base. Dressin' is smooth in texture while stuffing seems >> to be more "chunky". The white bread of stuffing is often toasted and the >> finished product often has a crouton look (of course, there are hundreds >> of recipes). While cornbread dressin' has variations, there is a basic >> combination of ingredients that is standard from Georgia to the Texas >> border. >> >> With advertising and a mobile society, terminology has traveled and >> mingled. >> >> But 'round here, if it ain't made with cornbread, it aint Dressin'. <grin> >> >> Elaine, too > > > > Yeppers, Elaine has hit the nail on the head with this definition! I second that! -- Wayne Boatwright *¿* _____________________________________________ A chicken in every pot is a *LOT* of chicken! |
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![]() "Dimitri" > wrote in message ... > > > LOL, > > Charlie, > > There are just some things in life that ain't worth going to the wall over - > This may be one. True, true.....As I get older there are fewer of those things worth it. > After all this not dressing that takes the cake it's Undressing that has > potential. > > ;-) > > Dimitri Indeed! Potential is what makes life interesting instead of a hard slog. Always keep 'em guessing. Undress your stuffing! Or, stuff your dressing! Either way it is Sage advice. Charlie > |
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