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It's late at night and I can't sleep. So my mind is wandering to
unimportant things. :-)

I notice in the various Thanksgiving threads that some people
use the term stuffing and some use dressing. I've always called it
stuffing, as have most of the people I know. To me, dressing is
something you put on salad.

Is the difference in terminology a regional thing?

ttfn,
jan
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> wrote:

>It's late at night and I can't sleep. So my mind is wandering to
>unimportant things. :-)
>
>I notice in the various Thanksgiving threads that some people
>use the term stuffing and some use dressing. I've always called it
>stuffing, as have most of the people I know. To me, dressing is
>something you put on salad.


>Is the difference in terminology a regional thing?


I'm with you -- it's stuffing.

When it's called dressing, I picture it as wetter. I like
my stuffing semi-dry.

Steve
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On Mon 21 Nov 2005 09:57:26p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Steve Pope?

> > wrote:
>
>>It's late at night and I can't sleep. So my mind is wandering to
>>unimportant things. :-)
>>
>>I notice in the various Thanksgiving threads that some people
>>use the term stuffing and some use dressing. I've always called it
>>stuffing, as have most of the people I know. To me, dressing is
>>something you put on salad.

>
>>Is the difference in terminology a regional thing?

>
> I'm with you -- it's stuffing.
>
> When it's called dressing, I picture it as wetter. I like
> my stuffing semi-dry.
>
> Steve
>


There are lots of kinds of stuffings, some dry and some wet. That isn't
the criteria. There can also be dry or wet dressings, baked in a dish.

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Wayne Boatwright > wrote:

>On Mon 21 Nov 2005 09:57:26p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Steve Pope?


>> When it's called dressing, I picture it as wetter. I like
>> my stuffing semi-dry.


>There are lots of kinds of stuffings, some dry and some wet. That isn't
>the criteria. There can also be dry or wet dressings, baked in a dish.


In my experience, being baked in a dish isn't one of the
criteria for it being called dressing. And again in my
experience, people who call it dressing (I consider this the minority)
are more likely to prefer the wetter variety. This includes
many hof-brau style cafeteria restaurants that serve turkey
and stuffing/dressing year round.

But mostly the words are interchangeable.

Steve
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On Mon 21 Nov 2005 10:08:17p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Steve Pope?

> Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>
>>On Mon 21 Nov 2005 09:57:26p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Steve

Pope?
>
>>> When it's called dressing, I picture it as wetter. I like my
>>> stuffing semi-dry.

>
>>There are lots of kinds of stuffings, some dry and some wet. That isn't
>>the criteria. There can also be dry or wet dressings, baked in a dish.

>
> In my experience, being baked in a dish isn't one of the
> criteria for it being called dressing. And again in my
> experience, people who call it dressing (I consider this the minority)
> are more likely to prefer the wetter variety. This includes
> many hof-brau style cafeteria restaurants that serve turkey
> and stuffing/dressing year round.


We've obviously had different experiences. :-)

> But mostly the words are interchangeable.


Obviously they are.

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"Steve Pope" > wrote

> people who call it dressing (I consider this the minority)
> are more likely to prefer the wetter variety.


I know how I like my dressing/stuffing, nothing special but
I love it, you can put what you want in it for yourself, fruit,
nuts, I don't care.

But wet runny dressing makes me want to hurl. Just seeing
people on tv pouring it into a dish ... ugh, what are they thinking?

nancy


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"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Steve Pope" > wrote
>
>> people who call it dressing (I consider this the minority)
>> are more likely to prefer the wetter variety.

>
> I know how I like my dressing/stuffing, nothing special but
> I love it, you can put what you want in it for yourself, fruit,
> nuts, I don't care.
>
> But wet runny dressing makes me want to hurl. Just seeing
> people on tv pouring it into a dish ... ugh, what are they thinking?
>
> nancy

And with dry stuffing, you can put all the gravy you want on top to make it
as wet as you like; not like the turkey dressing/stuffing I can still
remember having in Canada on their day for turkey -- OMG almost runny
towards the rest of the servings on your plate and sorta greyish looking. I
often wonder if ALL of Canada makes it this way -- the restaurant had the
word Gourmet in the title of it as I recall and a fru-fru looking
outside-type dining inside and fern plants abound. We were dressed as
Americans, not in a jacket and tie as they were for the big day; perhaps
they thought we had no taste and got the dregs -- tee hee.
Back on point, is this the usual way in Canada; I have never seen this
before or since.
Dee Dee


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On Mon 21 Nov 2005 09:47:14p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it ?

> It's late at night and I can't sleep. So my mind is wandering to
> unimportant things. :-)
>
> I notice in the various Thanksgiving threads that some people
> use the term stuffing and some use dressing. I've always called it
> stuffing, as have most of the people I know. To me, dressing is
> something you put on salad.
>
> Is the difference in terminology a regional thing?
>
> ttfn,
> jan


Maybe somewhat regional. Seems to be called "dressing" more in the southern
US. IMHO, the same mixture cooked inside the turkey is called stuffing, but
called dressing when cooked in a baking dish or casserole.

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On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 05:12:08 GMT, Reg > wrote:

wrote:
>
>> It's late at night and I can't sleep. So my mind is wandering to
>> unimportant things. :-)
>>
>> I notice in the various Thanksgiving threads that some people
>> use the term stuffing and some use dressing. I've always called it
>> stuffing, as have most of the people I know. To me, dressing is
>> something you put on salad.
>>
>> Is the difference in terminology a regional thing?

>
>I once saw a report about demographic specific food marketing
>that used stuffing/dressing as an example. It was said that in
>order to better target African American families one company
>began calling their boxed stuffing product dressing.


Interesting. I used to call it stuffing -- as did my family. Then it
occurred to me (a big DUH moment) that we don't stuff the bird with
it, we cook it along side. I now call it dressing. FTR, my dressing
is on the drier side, not like the wet goo stuffing I grew up with!

TammyM


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"TammyM" > wrote in message
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> On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 05:12:08 GMT, Reg > wrote:
>
> wrote:
> >
> >> It's late at night and I can't sleep. So my mind is wandering to
> >> unimportant things. :-)
> >>
> >> I notice in the various Thanksgiving threads that some people
> >> use the term stuffing and some use dressing. I've always called it
> >> stuffing, as have most of the people I know. To me, dressing is
> >> something you put on salad.
> >>
> >> Is the difference in terminology a regional thing?

> >
> >I once saw a report about demographic specific food marketing
> >that used stuffing/dressing as an example. It was said that in
> >order to better target African American families one company
> >began calling their boxed stuffing product dressing.

>
> Interesting. I used to call it stuffing -- as did my family. Then it
> occurred to me (a big DUH moment) that we don't stuff the bird with
> it, we cook it along side. I now call it dressing. FTR, my dressing
> is on the drier side, not like the wet goo stuffing I grew up with!
>
> TammyM


Hey Ho Tammy! My idiosyncratic terminology seems to agree with you. Stuffing
is stuffed; in a bird or in pork, etc. Dressing is cooked separately.

Charlie, in sunny (81F) Sandy Eggo


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Margaret Suran wrote:

> I guess in New York City, the poor turkeys run around undressed.



Or the wild ones!!!

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>I think it's a regional thing. Here in the South I hear it called
>dressing, but other regions and on tv it's referred to as stuffing.


It's dressing out West-- at least in Oregon/Idaho where I grew up.
"Stuffing" was something you saw on TV that came in a box. One might
order "turkey and dressing" at a resturaunt but never "turkey and
stuffing."

We're having dressing on Thursday, even though we're in Minnesota now.

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On 21 Nov 2005 21:58:26 -0800, "Kiwanda in Minnesota"
> wrote:

>>I think it's a regional thing. Here in the South I hear it called
>>dressing, but other regions and on tv it's referred to as stuffing.

>
>It's dressing out West-- at least in Oregon/Idaho where I grew up.


In Oregon/Washington where I grew up, it was either stuffing or
dressing.

>"Stuffing" was something you saw on TV that came in a box.


Of course, I grew up *well* before Stove Top.

>One might order "turkey and dressing" at a resturaunt but never "turkey and
>stuffing."


Agreed to that--but I've often heard the terms used interchangeably
during the Thanksgiving or Christmas dinner, as in "Please pass the
<stuffing/dressing>."

--
-denny-
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"It's come as you are, baby."

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> wrote in message
...
> It's late at night and I can't sleep. So my mind is wandering to
> unimportant things. :-)
>
> I notice in the various Thanksgiving threads that some people
> use the term stuffing and some use dressing. I've always called it
> stuffing, as have most of the people I know. To me, dressing is
> something you put on salad.
>
> Is the difference in terminology a regional thing?
>
> ttfn,
> jan


I suppose it depends on which you enjoy more; to be a stuffer or a dresser.

David


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On Tue 22 Nov 2005 12:01:52a, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it David Hare-
Scott?

>
> > wrote in message
> ...
>> It's late at night and I can't sleep. So my mind is wandering to
>> unimportant things. :-)
>>
>> I notice in the various Thanksgiving threads that some people
>> use the term stuffing and some use dressing. I've always called it
>> stuffing, as have most of the people I know. To me, dressing is
>> something you put on salad.
>>
>> Is the difference in terminology a regional thing?
>>
>> ttfn,
>> jan

>
> I suppose it depends on which you enjoy more; to be a stuffer or a

dresser.
>
> David


Or to be stuffed or dressed.

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"Rhonda Anderson" > wrote in message
.5...
> I don't think I've heard the term dressing used outside this news
> group.
> I've only ever referred to it as stuffing here (my part of NSW,
> Australia). Mind you, I think this group was the first time I ever saw
> references to cooking it outside the chicken/turkey. I'd never seen
> that
> done here, but that could just be my sheltered upbringing <g>.


I have never heard the term dressing outside this group either. I did
used to cook stuffing outside the bird in a tin many years ago because
we liked extra


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Hi Jan:

It appears to be regional to some extent at least. In this part of
Kentucky, I rarely hear "stuffing" but have been told----as others have
on this thread----that 'stuffing' goes in the bird, 'dressing' is a
separate dish.

As if that doesn't muddy the waters enough.... in the region of PA
where I was raised, a lot of the folks made "filling". My siblings and
parents still call it "filling" to this day.

Best regards -- Terry

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> wrote:
> It appears to be regional to some extent at least. In this part of
> Kentucky, I rarely hear "stuffing" but have been told----as others have
> on this thread----that 'stuffing' goes in the bird, 'dressing' is a
> separate dish.
>
> As if that doesn't muddy the waters enough.... in the region of PA
> where I was raised, a lot of the folks made "filling". My siblings and
> parents still call it "filling" to this day.


I'm pretty sure it's a regional thing, but with so much travel and people
moving around these days a lot of the regional differences are disappearing.

I had come across a web site once that showed a study of where various
equivalent words were used and what percentage of the population used them
in each area. It also looked at different pronunciations of the same word
(you do know the word "coupon" as two pronunuciations, don't you). The
results of the study were presented in a graphical form with maps, and you
could clearly see how certain words and pronunciations drifted from region
to region.

At least with stuffing/dressing, there are just two words... for a sandwich
made on a long bread roll, there are many, including submarine, hoagie,
grinder, poor boy, zeppelin, etc. Where my parents came from (near
Norristown, PA), they were called zeppelins, so that's what we called them
in our family. Always tended to get strange looks when using that term
outside the area... only years later did I find out zeppelin was one of the
most geographically restricted of the words used for those sandwiches.

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wff_ng_7 wrote:

> I'm pretty sure it's a regional thing, but with so much travel and
> people moving around these days a lot of the regional differences are
> disappearing.



Centuries ago, someone at a dinner table asked "please pass the
stuffing" and someone else passed the gravy (dressing) instead and
everyone laughed and it's usage today is simply a centuries-old forgotten
mistake.

You stuff a bird, you don't dress it.

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On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:21:03 GMT, "wff_ng_7" >
wrote:


>
>I had come across a web site once that showed a study of where various
>equivalent words were used and what percentage of the population used them
>in each area. It also looked at different pronunciations of the same word
>(you do know the word "coupon" as two pronunuciations, don't you).


coo-pon
q-pon

>
>At least with stuffing/dressing, there are just two words... for a sandwich
>made on a long bread roll, there are many, including submarine, hoagie,
>grinder, poor boy, zeppelin, etc.


Hero, where I come from (Brooklyn).

ttfn,
jan
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> wrote in message
...
> It's late at night and I can't sleep. So my mind is wandering to
> unimportant things. :-)
>
> I notice in the various Thanksgiving threads that some people
> use the term stuffing and some use dressing. I've always called it
> stuffing, as have most of the people I know. To me, dressing is
> something you put on salad.
>
> Is the difference in terminology a regional thing?
>
> ttfn,
> jan


Stuffing is stuffed inside something - hence the name. Dressing is a similar
concoction that is cooked without being stuffed inside anything. It can be
good but not as good as stuffing.


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> wrote in message
...
> It's late at night and I can't sleep. So my mind is wandering to
> unimportant things. :-)
>
> I notice in the various Thanksgiving threads that some people
> use the term stuffing and some use dressing. I've always called it
> stuffing, as have most of the people I know. To me, dressing is
> something you put on salad.
>
> Is the difference in terminology a regional thing?
>
> ttfn,
> jan


I think dressing means liquid, so I can't use that word for a concoction
involving bread. I have a theory about the culture behind the differences in
terminology, though. Let's try it here and see what happens.

If you describe the turkey side dish as "dressing", where do you and your
family fit with regard to these other things?

1) It's September, your kitchen's filled with steam, and you've been filling
Ball jars with tomatoes and lowering them into a vat of hot water. Are you:
-Canning?
-Putting food by?
-Putting up food?


2) In early spring and late fall, millions of people go bonkers over a
delicious panfish called a crappie. You and yours pronounce it as:
- Crappie, with a short "A" as in "crap", "map", etc.
- Croppie, with a short "O", as in "mop".You want to say it the other way,
but you were taught there'd be hell to pay later. Literally.


3) Do you any wooden country-decor cows or pigs hanging anywhere in your
home?


4) On top of your toilet tank, is there a basket containing little soaps
that nobody will ever use?


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> wrote in message
...
> It's late at night and I can't sleep. So my mind is wandering to
> unimportant things. :-)
>
> I notice in the various Thanksgiving threads that some people
> use the term stuffing and some use dressing. I've always called it
> stuffing, as have most of the people I know. To me, dressing is
> something you put on salad.
>
> Is the difference in terminology a regional thing?
>
> ttfn,
> jan


Either

Dimitri

See below:

dressing
1. A sauce - usually cold - used to coat or top salads and some cold vegetable,
fish and meat dishes. 2. A mixture used to stuff poultry, fish, meat and some
vegetables. It can be cooked separately or in the food in which it is stuffed.
Dressings (also called stuffings ) are usually well seasoned and based on bread
crumbs or cubes - though rice, potatoes and other foods are also used.
© Copyright Barron's Educational Services, Inc. 1995 based on THE FOOD LOVER'S
COMPANION, 2nd edition, by Sharon Tyler Herbst.




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"Dimitri" > wrote in message
news
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
> > It's late at night and I can't sleep. So my mind is wandering to
> > unimportant things. :-)
> >
> > I notice in the various Thanksgiving threads that some people
> > use the term stuffing and some use dressing. I've always called it
> > stuffing, as have most of the people I know. To me, dressing is
> > something you put on salad.
> >
> > Is the difference in terminology a regional thing?
> >
> > ttfn,
> > jan

>
> Either
>
> Dimitri

Dimitri you wimp! Take a stand man! <grin>

Charlie


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"Charles Gifford" > wrote in message
nk.net...
> > Is the difference in terminology a regional thing?
>> >
>> > ttfn,
>> > jan

>>
>> Either
>>
>> Dimitri

>
> Dimitri you wimp! Take a stand man! <grin>
>
> Charlie



LOL,

Charlie,

There are just some things in life that ain't worth going to the wall over -
This may be one.

After all this not dressing that takes the cake it's Undressing that has
potential.

;-)

Dimitri


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"Dimitri" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> LOL,
>
> Charlie,
>
> There are just some things in life that ain't worth going to the wall

over -
> This may be one.


True, true.....As I get older there are fewer of those things worth it.

> After all this not dressing that takes the cake it's Undressing that has
> potential.
>
> ;-)
>
> Dimitri


Indeed! Potential is what makes life interesting instead of a hard slog.
Always keep 'em guessing. Undress your stuffing! Or, stuff your dressing!
Either way it is Sage advice.

Charlie
>



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> wrote in message
...
> It's late at night and I can't sleep. So my mind is wandering to
> unimportant things. :-)
>
> I notice in the various Thanksgiving threads that some people
> use the term stuffing and some use dressing. I've always called it
> stuffing, as have most of the people I know. To me, dressing is
> something you put on salad.
>
> Is the difference in terminology a regional thing?
>
> ttfn,
> jan


For me, the difference is in how it's made. Stuffing is, well, stuffed. Into
the bird. Dressing is cooked under or separate from the bird.

kimberly


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On Wed, 23 Nov 2005, Nexis wrote:

>
> > wrote in message
> ...
> > It's late at night and I can't sleep. So my mind is wandering to
> > unimportant things. :-)
> >
> > I notice in the various Thanksgiving threads that some people
> > use the term stuffing and some use dressing. I've always called it
> > stuffing, as have most of the people I know. To me, dressing is
> > something you put on salad.
> >
> > Is the difference in terminology a regional thing?
> >
> > ttfn,
> > jan

>
> For me, the difference is in how it's made. Stuffing is, well, stuffed. Into
> the bird. Dressing is cooked under or separate from the bird.
>
> kimberly
>


Yes, I agree. Dressin' (there is no "g" <vbg>) seems to be a Southern
thing and has a cornbread base. Stuffing seems to be a Northern thing and
has a white bread base. Dressin' is smooth in texture while stuffing seems
to be more "chunky". The white bread of stuffing is often toasted and the
finished product often has a crouton look (of course, there are hundreds
of recipes). While cornbread dressin' has variations, there is a basic
combination of ingredients that is standard from Georgia to the Texas
border.

With advertising and a mobile society, terminology has traveled and
mingled.

But 'round here, if it ain't made with cornbread, it aint Dressin'. <grin>

Elaine, too



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Elaine Parrish wrote:

> Yes, I agree. Dressin' (there is no "g" <vbg>) seems to be a Southern
> thing and has a cornbread base. Stuffing seems to be a Northern thing and
> has a white bread base. Dressin' is smooth in texture while stuffing seems
> to be more "chunky". The white bread of stuffing is often toasted and the
> finished product often has a crouton look (of course, there are hundreds
> of recipes). While cornbread dressin' has variations, there is a basic
> combination of ingredients that is standard from Georgia to the Texas
> border.
>
> With advertising and a mobile society, terminology has traveled and
> mingled.
>
> But 'round here, if it ain't made with cornbread, it aint Dressin'. <grin>
>
> Elaine, too




Yeppers, Elaine has hit the nail on the head with this definition!

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On Wed 23 Nov 2005 12:01:23p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it
itsjoannotjoann?

>
> Elaine Parrish wrote:
>
>> Yes, I agree. Dressin' (there is no "g" <vbg>) seems to be a Southern
>> thing and has a cornbread base. Stuffing seems to be a Northern thing

and
>> has a white bread base. Dressin' is smooth in texture while stuffing

seems
>> to be more "chunky". The white bread of stuffing is often toasted and

the
>> finished product often has a crouton look (of course, there are hundreds
>> of recipes). While cornbread dressin' has variations, there is a basic
>> combination of ingredients that is standard from Georgia to the Texas
>> border.
>>
>> With advertising and a mobile society, terminology has traveled and
>> mingled.
>>
>> But 'round here, if it ain't made with cornbread, it aint Dressin'.

<grin>
>>
>> Elaine, too

>
>
>
> Yeppers, Elaine has hit the nail on the head with this definition!


I second that!

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