GRATIS DICTUM
----------------------

So it's come to this! I used to complain when the Xmas advertising
began before Thanksgiving (U.S) now were talking about "Thanksgiving"
(U.S.) before Halloween. Oy!
---
JL

p.s. i'm slightly jealous


Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:

> Got the final head count last night. There will only be 18 instead of
> 22
> people. I've finally decided on a partial menu and other family
> members
> will insist on bringing something. I would prefer they didn't but ya'
> know
> how the relatives are. Here is a partial list:
>
> For nibbles:
> Bloody marys and cocktails
> Cream cheese stuffed black olives
> Tapenade and crostini
> Peanut butter stuffed celery sticks (for Gillian, she loves them)
> Assorted nuts
> Deviled eggs (for Lindsay, we fight over them)
>
> Beforehand:
> Punkin' soup
>
> The main event:
> Roast turkey - turkey gravy
> Brisket with onion gravy
> Mashed 'taters
> Peas
> This excellent sweet potato dish, recipe ripped off from my SIL
> 1 other undecided side dish probably something with corn
> Brussel sprouts
> Carrots, undecided how to serve yet, may do zippy carrots, dilled or
> something with ginger
> Stuffing - regular and a sausage stuffing
> Cranberry relish
> Dinner rolls
> Wine
>
> Dessert:
> Pumpkin Walnut Cheesecake (depending on how the trial run turns out)
> Pumpkin pies w/whipped cream
> Cranberry Muffins a la Wayne
> Cinnamon Hazlenut coffee
>
> Relatives are bringing other desserts and some are bringing big
> salads.
>
> It's not going to be fancy but I'll bet I take the usual snooze
> afterwards.
>
> Michael
>
> --
> Send email to dog30 at charter dot net

On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 06:49:24 GMT, Joseph Littleshoes
> wrote:

>GRATIS DICTUM
>----------------------
>
>So it's come to this! I used to complain when the Xmas advertising
>began before Thanksgiving (U.S) now were talking about "Thanksgiving"
>(U.S.) before Halloween. Oy!
>---
>JL
>
>p.s. i'm slightly jealous
Doesn't everyone start talking about Thanksgiving, and planning for it
long before Halloween?

I think I started before Labor Day....

Christine

Christine Dabney wrote on 30 Oct 2005 in rec.food.cooking

> Doesn't everyone start talking about Thanksgiving, and planning for it
> long before Halloween?
>

I start thinking about TG in August, by Halloween TG has come and past...

--
The eyes are the mirrors....
But the ears...Ah the ears.
The ears keep the hat up.

Christine Dabney wrote:

> On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 06:49:24 GMT, Joseph Littleshoes
> > wrote:
>
> >GRATIS DICTUM
> >----------------------
> >
> >So it's come to this! I used to complain when the Xmas advertising
> >began before Thanksgiving (U.S) now were talking about "Thanksgiving"
>
> >(U.S.) before Halloween. Oy!
> >---
> >JL
> >
> >p.s. i'm slightly jealous

> Doesn't everyone start talking about Thanksgiving, and planning for it
>
> long before Halloween?
>
> I think I started before Labor Day....
>
> Christine

What can i say? The result of middle age? i have a routine of 5 dinners
a year that i attend, 4 of which i host. I do not NEED to start even
thinking about TG till some time in mid november. That meal almost
cooks itself. Though i am thinking of getting 'jiggy' with xmas dinner
this year, request white tie & tiaras and orders and r.s.v.p. maybe even
drag out the gold plate from the vault (oy! the paper work though!)
probly use the Sevres instead

I got a case of '02 Moet in the basement.

Have not got fancy with any thing for the last several years due to a
back injury. Im seriously considering a big fish for the mid winter,
solstice (read Xmas) dinner this year. Big enough to make my essentially
decorative Sturgeon pot worth using (5 dollars U.S. at an auction no
other cooks attended).
---
JL

Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:

> Joseph Littleshoes > looking for trouble wrote in
>
> :
>
> > Christine Dabney wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 06:49:24 GMT, Joseph Littleshoes
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >GRATIS DICTUM
> >> >----------------------
> >> >
> > Though i am thinking of getting 'jiggy' with xmas dinner
> > this year, request white tie & tiaras and orders and r.s.v.p. maybe
> even
> > drag out the gold plate from the vault (oy! the paper work though!)
> > probly use the Sevres instead
> >
> > I got a case of '02 Moet in the basement.
> >
> > Have not got fancy with any thing for the last several years due to
> a
> > back injury. Im seriously considering a big fish for the mid
> winter,
> > solstice (read Xmas) dinner this year. Big enough to make my
> essentially
> > decorative Sturgeon pot worth using (5 dollars U.S. at an auction no
>
> > other cooks attended).
> > ---
> > JL
>
> Well if you get jiggy at X-mas (ties, tiaras et.al) I would suggest
> using
> the best of china, silver, crystal etc. and then cook burgers on the
> grill
>

Nah, i probly wont get 'jiggy' with it, people seem to get upset when i
wear my tiara.
---
Joseph Littleshoes.



>
>
> Michael
>
> --
> Send email to dog30 at charter dot net

Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:

> Joseph Littleshoes > looking for trouble wrote in
>
> :
>
> > Christine Dabney wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 06:49:24 GMT, Joseph Littleshoes
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >GRATIS DICTUM
> >> >----------------------
> >> >
> >> >So it's come to this! I used to complain when the Xmas
> advertising
> >> >began before Thanksgiving (U.S) now were talking about
> "Thanksgiving"
> >>
> >> >(U.S.) before Halloween. Oy!
> >> >---
> >> >JL
> >> >
> >> >p.s. i'm slightly jealous
> >
> >> Doesn't everyone start talking about Thanksgiving, and planning for
> it
> >>
> >> long before Halloween?
> >>
> >> I think I started before Labor Day....
> >>
> >> Christine
> >
> > What can i say? The result of middle age? i have a routine of 5
> dinners
> > a year that i attend, 4 of which i host. I do not NEED to start
> even
> > thinking about TG till some time in mid november. That meal almost
> > cooks itself. Though i am thinking of getting 'jiggy' with xmas
> dinner
> > this year, request white tie & tiaras and orders and r.s.v.p. maybe
> even
> > drag out the gold plate from the vault (oy! the paper work though!)
> > probly use the Sevres instead
> >
> > I got a case of '02 Moet in the basement.
> >
> > Have not got fancy with any thing for the last several years due to
> a
> > back injury. Im seriously considering a big fish for the mid
> winter,
> > solstice (read Xmas) dinner this year. Big enough to make my
> essentially
> > decorative Sturgeon pot worth using (5 dollars U.S. at an auction no
>
> > other cooks attended).
> > ---
> > JL
>
> Well if you get jiggy at X-mas (ties, tiaras et.al) I would suggest
> using
> the best of china, silver, crystal etc. and then cook burgers on the
> grill
>

Nah, i probly wont get 'jiggy' with it, people seem to get upset when i
wear my tiara.
---
Joseph Littleshoes.



>
>
> Michael
>
> --
> Send email to dog30 at charter dot net

On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 18:20:28 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\" Lonergan"
> wrote:

>Gawd, Christmas stuff has been in the stores here for a week. I guess
>eventually the holiday season will extend from August until January 2nd.
>UGH... now that's a lot of hangovers from holiday parties

Too late - Christmas decoarations have been up at various stores at
Fashion Island (SoCal) for weeks. Started about the middle of
September. It's just disgusting. Marketing gone mad, IMHO.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

-- Duncan Hines

To reply, replace "spaminator" with "cox"

On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 22:24:29 GMT, Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:

> Well if you get jiggy at X-mas (ties, tiaras et.al) I would suggest using
> the best of china, silver, crystal etc. and then cook burgers on the grill
>

We did one of those dinners a few years ago, (sans tiara, but black
tie and foofoo dresses)... rented a couple of limos and went to a
fancy restaurant. It was just like high school all over again and
lots of fun!

On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 22:41:48 GMT, Joseph Littleshoes wrote:

> Nah, i probly wont get 'jiggy' with it, people seem to get upset when i
> wear my tiara.

I can't imagine why... you appear to have very good taste and lots of
klas.

On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 16:54:55 -0800, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:

> Too late - Christmas decoarations have been up at various stores at
> Fashion Island (SoCal) for weeks. Started about the middle of
> September. It's just disgusting. Marketing gone mad, IMHO.

That has been the timing for at least 30 years. Too bad - because it
spoils xmas for me. By the time xmas arrives, I've been over it for a
couple of months.

sf wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 16:54:55 -0800, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
>
>
>> Too late - Christmas decoarations have been up at various stores at
>> Fashion Island (SoCal) for weeks. Started about the middle of
>> September. It's just disgusting. Marketing gone mad, IMHO.
>
>
> That has been the timing for at least 30 years. Too bad - because it
> spoils xmas for me. By the time xmas arrives, I've been over it for a
> couple of months.

See. That's the advantage of doing what we do. We don't take the tree
down. It stays up all year. Oh, every now and again, we put a new
decoration on it. Maybe for mother's day or groundhog day or something.
But it stays up for years. This one is heading for its fifth birthday.

In the music room. Sounds hoity-toity, but it just means it's the room
with the guitars, banjos, music books and other instruments live. Had to
come up with a name. Bathroom and kitchen were already taken. It wasn't
a bedroom or dining room or living room. So music room it became. With
its own perpetual tree.

Pastorio

sf wrote:

> On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 22:41:48 GMT, Joseph Littleshoes wrote:
>
> > Nah, i probly wont get 'jiggy' with it, people seem to get upset
> when i
> > wear my tiara.
>
> I can't imagine why... you appear to have very good taste and lots of
> klas.
>

You are very kind, SF, but unfortunately those types of people i could
invite to such an affair tend to be rather conservative and don't take
kindly to men wearing tiaras, they are technically a badge of rank
rather than just a piece of jewellery.

A friend of a friend once got me an invite to a very fancy dinner in San
Francisco, held once a year by the Escoffier club. In my pretentious
desire to be as 'white tie and tails' as i could be i had a silk sash
made up for me to wear under the outer coat but over the white vest,
like you see the Queen of England and her relatives who are knights of
the garter wearing. Running diagonally from the left shoulder to the
right side of the hips. It was a very specific orange colour based on
my only order, the NSM or national service medal that any one who has
been in the U.S. military is awarded just for making it through basic
training. Several people thought i was taking way too great a liberty
and did not hesitate to say so. But this was only after i had explained
to them it did not represent a certain Spanish order they had assumed it
did, and were quite deferential till i explained it represented an
American military order.

Though i could get my Halston ball gown out and invite my more radical
friends but then they would complain about the parasitic ostentation of
unearned wealth ( i inherited the Tiara).

Given my recent back problems i will probly just do a small dinner and
that very casual. Which in some respects is harder for me than
something elaborate, i get caught up in the moment and start elaborating
till it gets out of hand and im spending a week in the kitchen
preparing for one meal.

With any luck at all i will be invited out rather than inviting others
in.
---
JL

sf wrote:

> On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 22:24:29 GMT, Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:
>
> > Well if you get jiggy at X-mas (ties, tiaras et.al) I would suggest
> using
> > the best of china, silver, crystal etc. and then cook burgers on
> the grill
> >
>
> We did one of those dinners a few years ago, (sans tiara, but black
> tie and foofoo dresses)... rented a couple of limos and went to a
> fancy restaurant. It was just like high school all over again and
> lots of fun!

It is fun but i am always jealous that the women get to wear the more
beautiful clothing and jewellery. ORdinary street clothing aint that
much different for men and women these days but with evening or formal
clothes, the women get all the good stuff. If i were in better physical
shape (bad back) would probly don a ball gown and tiara and go over to
the Castro this evening, but waking with a stick in a ball gown is just
not really done, im still a bit toop young to portray the legendary
rrrrrrr

On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 22:16:01 -0800, sf >
wrote:

>That has been the timing for at least 30 years. Too bad - because it
>spoils xmas for me. By the time xmas arrives, I've been over it for a
>couple of months.

It just accentuates the crass commercialism that Christmas has become.
The shops push The Season earlier and earlier hoping for a better
payday. IMHO, I don't think anyone spends any more for their Christmas
shopping just b/c the shops promote it early and it just further
marginalizes what should be a festive season.

That said, I generally have my Christmas shopping done by
Thanksgiving, but it's not b/c the stores are hyping it in September.
I can't stand crowds and prefer to spend the windup between
Thanksgiving and Christmas making holiday cookies, my hard candy for
presents to people such as the guy who picks up and delivers my dry
cleaning and (*not* for preference) the end-of-year housecleaning done
in law firms that is a huge time spender.

And, yeah, I'm about 80% done with my shopping <veg>

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd...who loves saying that in Oct.
AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

-- Duncan Hines

To reply, replace "spaminator" with "cox"

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 01:40:13 -0500, Bob (this one) wrote:

> sf wrote:
> > On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 16:54:55 -0800, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Too late - Christmas decoarations have been up at various stores at
> >> Fashion Island (SoCal) for weeks. Started about the middle of
> >> September. It's just disgusting. Marketing gone mad, IMHO.
> >
> >
> > That has been the timing for at least 30 years. Too bad - because it
> > spoils xmas for me. By the time xmas arrives, I've been over it for a
> > couple of months.
>
> See. That's the advantage of doing what we do. We don't take the tree
> down. It stays up all year. Oh, every now and again, we put a new
> decoration on it. Maybe for mother's day or groundhog day or something.
> But it stays up for years. This one is heading for its fifth birthday.
>
> In the music room. Sounds hoity-toity, but it just means it's the room
> with the guitars, banjos, music books and other instruments live. Had to
> come up with a name. Bathroom and kitchen were already taken. It wasn't
> a bedroom or dining room or living room. So music room it became. With
> its own perpetual tree.
>
Ok, tell me the truth.... do you vacuum or dust the tree and how often
do you do it?

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:54:42 GMT, Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:

> And that Gawd Awful piped in Xmas music in the stores. It'll be here in 3
> weeks and play for 6 weeks. It wouldn't surprise me to hear it tomorrow,
> day after Halloween. I'll be shopping for marked down goodies.

Michael, I haven't put my foot into a store door in months (life is
good when the kids are grown and can do their own shopping)... but
reminising back to the days when I did that sort of thing and I think
xmas music would have already been playing by this time.

Are they losing their grip?

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 23:19:16 GMT, Joseph Littleshoes wrote:

> sf wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 22:41:48 GMT, Joseph Littleshoes wrote:
> >
> > > Nah, i probly wont get 'jiggy' with it, people seem to get upset
> > when i
> > > wear my tiara.
> >
> > I can't imagine why... you appear to have very good taste and lots of
> > klas.
> >
>
> You are very kind, SF, but unfortunately those types of people i could
> invite to such an affair tend to be rather conservative and don't take
> kindly to men wearing tiaras, they are technically a badge of rank
> rather than just a piece of jewellery.
>
> A friend of a friend once got me an invite to a very fancy dinner in San
> Francisco, held once a year by the Escoffier club. In my pretentious
> desire to be as 'white tie and tails' as i could be i had a silk sash
> made up for me to wear under the outer coat but over the white vest,
> like you see the Queen of England and her relatives who are knights of
> the garter wearing. Running diagonally from the left shoulder to the
> right side of the hips. It was a very specific orange colour based on
> my only order, the NSM or national service medal that any one who has
> been in the U.S. military is awarded just for making it through basic
> training. Several people thought i was taking way too great a liberty
> and did not hesitate to say so. But this was only after i had explained
> to them it did not represent a certain Spanish order they had assumed it
> did, and were quite deferential till i explained it represented an
> American military order.
>

Oh, my goodness... I didn't think there were so many tight "you know
what's" in SF!
>
> Though i could get my Halston ball gown out and invite my more radical
> friends but then they would complain about the parasitic ostentation of
> unearned wealth ( i inherited the Tiara).
>
Oh, geeze... we can have a party for two! I'll fight you for the
tiara). LOL

> Given my recent back problems i will probly just do a small dinner and
> that very casual. Which in some respects is harder for me than
> something elaborate, i get caught up in the moment and start elaborating
> till it gets out of hand and im spending a week in the kitchen
> preparing for one meal.
>
> With any luck at all i will be invited out rather than inviting others
> in.

That's always a good option, but I've found that the easiest
entertaining involves the Weber.... even if it's Thanksgiving. We've
gone over to friends who have a deck for xx years, I LOVE T'day there
because no matter how cold, a table is set up outside. I *always* opt
to eat out there although most of the guests are fair weather friends
who eat on the other side of the sliding glass doors (which are
closed). What a bunch of hot house beauties!

LOL!
I usually pretend I'm a pilgrim... and LOVE the entire outdoor (cold)
experience. One year we pretended to be pirates, but I paid for it
the following day with a sore throat. There are only "so many" times
you can lower your voice to say Ar, Ar, Ar and all that other pirate
stuff without your vocal chords rebelling.

"Joseph Littleshoes" > wrote in message
...
> It is fun but i am always jealous that the women get to wear the more
> beautiful clothing and jewellery. ORdinary street clothing aint that
> much different for men and women these days but with evening or formal
> clothes, the women get all the good stuff. If i were in better
> physical
> shape (bad back) would probly don a ball gown and tiara and go over to
> the Castro this evening, but waking with a stick in a ball gown is
> just
> not really done, im still a bit toop young to portray the legendary

You were just born too late Joseph. In the ages past, men wore
spectacular clothing.

Ophelia wrote:
> "Joseph Littleshoes" > wrote in message
> ...
> > It is fun but i am always jealous that the women get to wear the more
> > beautiful clothing and jewellery. ORdinary street clothing aint that
> > much different for men and women these days but with evening or formal
> > clothes, the women get all the good stuff. If i were in better
> > physical
> > shape (bad back) would probly don a ball gown and tiara and go over to
> > the Castro this evening, but waking with a stick in a ball gown is
> > just
> > not really done, im still a bit toop young to portray the legendary
>
> You were just born too late Joseph. In the ages past, men wore
> spectacular clothing.

With the tremendous crowds and a gown, I think the throng would just
keep you moving and your back upright. Or if that is a terror, just
wave to the people from a balcony? Usually a show is going on from
several balconies...

"Michael "Dog3" Lonergan" > wrote in message
...
> "Ophelia" > looking for trouble wrote in
> news >
>>
>> "Joseph Littleshoes" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> It is fun but i am always jealous that the women get to wear the
>>> more
>>> beautiful clothing and jewellery. ORdinary street clothing aint
>>> that
>>> much different for men and women these days but with evening or
>>> formal
>>> clothes, the women get all the good stuff. If i were in better
>>> physical
>>> shape (bad back) would probly don a ball gown and tiara and go over
>>> to
>>> the Castro this evening, but waking with a stick in a ball gown is
>>> just
>>> not really done, im still a bit toop young to portray the legendary
>>
>> You were just born too late Joseph. In the ages past, men wore
>> spectacular clothing.
>
> They also had fabulous wigs.

quite so)))

Joseph Littleshoes wrote:

> sf wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 22:24:29 GMT, Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:
> >
> > > Well if you get jiggy at X-mas (ties, tiaras et.al) I would
> suggest
> > using
> > > the best of china, silver, crystal etc. and then cook burgers on
> > the grill
> > >
> >
> > We did one of those dinners a few years ago, (sans tiara, but black
> > tie and foofoo dresses)... rented a couple of limos and went to a
> > fancy restaurant. It was just like high school all over again and
> > lots of fun!
>
> It is fun but i am always jealous that the women get to wear the more
> beautiful clothing and jewellery. ORdinary street clothing aint that
> much different for men and women these days but with evening or formal
>
> clothes, the women get all the good stuff. If i were in better
> physical
> shape (bad back) would probly don a ball gown and tiara and go over to
>
> the Castro this evening, but waking with a stick in a ball gown is
> just
> not really done, im still a bit too young to portray the legendary

> rrrrrrr

Grrrr....weird computer glitch sent my keyboard crazy yesterday. I meant
to write that not only was i too young to protray the legendary "Grand
Dame" but i dont have a "lorgnette"...yet.---
JL

On Tue 01 Nov 2005 05:55:52p, Joseph Littleshoes wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> Joseph Littleshoes wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>>
>> > On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 22:24:29 GMT, Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:
>> >
>> > > Well if you get jiggy at X-mas (ties, tiaras et.al) I would
>> > > suggest using the best of china, silver, crystal etc. and then
>> > > cook burgers on the grill
>> >
>> > We did one of those dinners a few years ago, (sans tiara, but black
>> > tie and foofoo dresses)... rented a couple of limos and went to a
>> > fancy restaurant. It was just like high school all over again and
>> > lots of fun!
>>
>> It is fun but i am always jealous that the women get to wear the more
>> beautiful clothing and jewellery. ORdinary street clothing aint that
>> much different for men and women these days but with evening or formal
>>
>> clothes, the women get all the good stuff. If i were in better
>> physical shape (bad back) would probly don a ball gown and tiara and
>> go over to
>>
>> the Castro this evening, but waking with a stick in a ball gown is
>> just not really done, im still a bit too young to portray the
>> legendary
>
>> rrrrrrr
>
> Grrrr....weird computer glitch sent my keyboard crazy yesterday. I meant
> to write that not only was i too young to protray the legendary "Grand
> Dame" but i dont have a "lorgnette"...yet.---
> JL

My gawd, how tragic! How do you read the computer screen without a
lorgnette?

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
_____________________________

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Meet Mr. Bailey

Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> On Tue 01 Nov 2005 05:55:52p, Joseph Littleshoes wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > Grrrr....weird computer glitch sent my keyboard crazy yesterday. I meant
> > to write that not only was i too young to protray the legendary "Grand
> > Dame" but i dont have a "lorgnette"...yet.---
> > JL

> My gawd, how tragic! How do you read the computer screen without a
> lorgnette?
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright *¿*

With difficulty while looking for my emergency monocle.

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 20:34:48 -0800, sf >
wrote:

>Ok, tell me the truth.... do you vacuum or dust the tree and how often
>do you do it?

I do not vacuum and I do not dust. I shop, therefore I am :-)

(And have a housecleaner, which is largely why I work - not sure where
my vacuum cleaner is, exactly.)

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

-- Duncan Hines

To reply, replace "spaminator" with "cox"

On Tue 01 Nov 2005 10:00:57p, Joseph Littleshoes wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:
>
>> "Ophelia" > looking for trouble wrote in
>> news >>
>> >
>> > "Joseph Littleshoes" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >> It is fun but i am always jealous that the women get to wear the
>> >> more beautiful clothing and jewellery. ORdinary street clothing
>> >> aint that much different for men and women these days but with
>> >> evening or formal clothes, the women get all the good stuff. If i
>> >> were in better physical shape (bad back) would probly don a ball
>> >> gown and tiara and go over to the Castro this evening, but waking
>> >> with a stick in a ball gown is just not really done, im still a bit
>> >> top young to portray the legendary 'Grand Dame".
>> >
>> > You were just born too late Joseph. In the ages past, men wore
>> > spectacular clothing.
>>
>> They also had fabulous wigs.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>
> Did you know that the "Tiara" the Queen of England wears on the postage
> stamps and the money was originally made for George IV, her great -
> great - great uncle George IV, iirc?
>
> Most "Tiaras" perch on the top of the head or are in someway an accent
> or accouterment to a Ladies head, being generally representative of a
> 'courtesy title' not the Ladies by right but rather as a courtesy of her
> husband. The Tiara the Queen wears on the postage stamps and money was
> originally made to go over the court wigs the Georgians, specifically
> George IV wore. And wraps around, fits over, the presant Queens entire
> head.
>
> The Austrians used to love to adorn their warriors in jewels, i have
> several pictures of Austrian Archdukes wearing more jewelry than their
> wives.
> ---
> Joseph Litleshoes
>
>

Then I guess, Joseph, that we can't say that you're right on the money! :-)
That would be Liz.

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Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:

> "Ophelia" > looking for trouble wrote in
> news >
> >
> > "Joseph Littleshoes" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> It is fun but i am always jealous that the women get to wear the
> more
> >> beautiful clothing and jewellery. ORdinary street clothing aint
> that
> >> much different for men and women these days but with evening or
> formal
> >> clothes, the women get all the good stuff. If i were in better
> >> physical
> >> shape (bad back) would probly don a ball gown and tiara and go over
> to
> >> the Castro this evening, but waking with a stick in a ball gown is
> >> just
> >> not really done, im still a bit top young to portray the legendary
> 'Grand Dame".
> >
> > You were just born too late Joseph. In the ages past, men wore
> > spectacular clothing.
>
> They also had fabulous wigs.
>
> Michael
>

Did you know that the "Tiara" the Queen of England wears on the postage
stamps and the money was originally made for George IV, her great -
great - great uncle George IV, iirc?

Most "Tiaras" perch on the top of the head or are in someway an accent
or accouterment to a Ladies head, being generally representative of a
'courtesy title' not the Ladies by right but rather as a courtesy of her
husband. The Tiara the Queen wears on the postage stamps and money was
originally made to go over the court wigs the Georgians, specifically
George IV wore. And wraps around, fits over, the presant Queens entire
head.

The Austrians used to love to adorn their warriors in jewels, i have
several pictures of Austrian Archdukes wearing more jewelry than their
wives.
---
Joseph Litleshoes

wrote:

> With the tremendous crowds and a gown, I think the throng would just
> keep you moving and your back upright. Or if that is a terror, just
> wave to the people from a balcony? Usually a show is going on from
> several balconies...

Y'know how your eyes play tricks on you when you just glance at a sentence?
I thought the first sentence said, "I think the THONG would just keep you
moving..."

Bob

"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue 01 Nov 2005 05:55:52p, Joseph Littleshoes wrote in
> rec.food.cooking:
>
>> Joseph Littleshoes wrote:
>>
>>> sf wrote:
>>>
>>> > On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 22:24:29 GMT, Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Well if you get jiggy at X-mas (ties, tiaras et.al) I would
>>> > > suggest using the best of china, silver, crystal etc. and then
>>> > > cook burgers on the grill
>>> >
>>> > We did one of those dinners a few years ago, (sans tiara, but
>>> > black
>>> > tie and foofoo dresses)... rented a couple of limos and went to a
>>> > fancy restaurant. It was just like high school all over again and
>>> > lots of fun!
>>>
>>> It is fun but i am always jealous that the women get to wear the
>>> more
>>> beautiful clothing and jewellery. ORdinary street clothing aint
>>> that
>>> much different for men and women these days but with evening or
>>> formal
>>>
>>> clothes, the women get all the good stuff. If i were in better
>>> physical shape (bad back) would probly don a ball gown and tiara and
>>> go over to
>>>
>>> the Castro this evening, but waking with a stick in a ball gown is
>>> just not really done, im still a bit too young to portray the
>>> legendary
>>
>>> rrrrrrr
>>
>> Grrrr....weird computer glitch sent my keyboard crazy yesterday. I
>> meant
>> to write that not only was i too young to protray the legendary
>> "Grand
>> Dame" but i dont have a "lorgnette"...yet.---
>> JL
>
> My gawd, how tragic! How do you read the computer screen without a
> lorgnette?
>

O throws up her hands in horror. How some people manage I cannot
imagine!!!!! *adjusts her pince nez*

> wrote in message
oups.com...
Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> On Tue 01 Nov 2005 05:55:52p, Joseph Littleshoes wrote in
> rec.food.cooking:
> > Grrrr....weird computer glitch sent my keyboard crazy yesterday. I
> > meant
> > to write that not only was i too young to protray the legendary
> > "Grand
> > Dame" but i dont have a "lorgnette"...yet.---
> > JL

> My gawd, how tragic! How do you read the computer screen without a
> lorgnette?
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright *¿*

With difficulty while looking for my emergency monocle.

LOL

"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote in message
...
> wrote:
>
>> With the tremendous crowds and a gown, I think the throng would just
>> keep you moving and your back upright. Or if that is a terror, just
>> wave to the people from a balcony? Usually a show is going on from
>> several balconies...
>
> Y'know how your eyes play tricks on you when you just glance at a
> sentence?
> I thought the first sentence said, "I think the THONG would just keep
> you
> moving..."

ROFL I saw it as thong too))

On Wed 02 Nov 2005 02:00:35a, Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Tue 01 Nov 2005 05:55:52p, Joseph Littleshoes wrote in
>> rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>> Joseph Littleshoes wrote:
>>>
>>>> sf wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 22:24:29 GMT, Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > Well if you get jiggy at X-mas (ties, tiaras et.al) I would
>>>> > > suggest using the best of china, silver, crystal etc. and then
>>>> > > cook burgers on the grill
>>>> >
>>>> > We did one of those dinners a few years ago, (sans tiara, but
>>>> > black tie and foofoo dresses)... rented a couple of limos and went
>>>> > to a fancy restaurant. It was just like high school all over
>>>> > again and lots of fun!
>>>>
>>>> It is fun but i am always jealous that the women get to wear the
>>>> more beautiful clothing and jewellery. ORdinary street clothing
>>>> aint that much different for men and women these days but with
>>>> evening or formal
>>>>
>>>> clothes, the women get all the good stuff. If i were in better
>>>> physical shape (bad back) would probly don a ball gown and tiara and
>>>> go over to
>>>>
>>>> the Castro this evening, but waking with a stick in a ball gown is
>>>> just not really done, im still a bit too young to portray the
>>>> legendary
>>>
>>>> rrrrrrr
>>>
>>> Grrrr....weird computer glitch sent my keyboard crazy yesterday. I
>>> meant to write that not only was i too young to protray the
>>> legendary "Grand
>>> Dame" but i dont have a "lorgnette"...yet.---
>>> JL
>>
>> My gawd, how tragic! How do you read the computer screen without a
>> lorgnette?
>>
>
> O throws up her hands in horror. How some people manage I cannot
> imagine!!!!! *adjusts her pince nez*

Well, I hope they're fitted out with a silken cord. You wouldn't want to
lose them.

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Meet Mr. Bailey

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Bob Terwilliger" > wrote

>> wrote:
>>
>>> With the tremendous crowds and a gown, I think the throng would just
>>> keep you moving and your back upright.

>> Y'know how your eyes play tricks on you when you just glance at a
>> sentence?
>> I thought the first sentence said, "I think the THONG would just keep you
>> moving..."
>
> ROFL I saw it as thong too))

(laughing) and it would keep my back upright, too! Woohoo!

nancy

"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed 02 Nov 2005 02:00:35a, Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>>
>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Tue 01 Nov 2005 05:55:52p, Joseph Littleshoes wrote in
>>> rec.food.cooking:
>>>
>>>> Joseph Littleshoes wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> sf wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 22:24:29 GMT, Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > Well if you get jiggy at X-mas (ties, tiaras et.al) I would
>>>>> > > suggest using the best of china, silver, crystal etc. and
>>>>> > > then
>>>>> > > cook burgers on the grill
>>>>> >
>>>>> > We did one of those dinners a few years ago, (sans tiara, but
>>>>> > black tie and foofoo dresses)... rented a couple of limos and
>>>>> > went
>>>>> > to a fancy restaurant. It was just like high school all over
>>>>> > again and lots of fun!
>>>>>
>>>>> It is fun but i am always jealous that the women get to wear the
>>>>> more beautiful clothing and jewellery. ORdinary street clothing
>>>>> aint that much different for men and women these days but with
>>>>> evening or formal
>>>>>
>>>>> clothes, the women get all the good stuff. If i were in better
>>>>> physical shape (bad back) would probly don a ball gown and tiara
>>>>> and
>>>>> go over to
>>>>>
>>>>> the Castro this evening, but waking with a stick in a ball gown is
>>>>> just not really done, im still a bit too young to portray the
>>>>> legendary
>>>>
>>>>> rrrrrrr
>>>>
>>>> Grrrr....weird computer glitch sent my keyboard crazy yesterday. I
>>>> meant to write that not only was i too young to protray the
>>>> legendary "Grand
>>>> Dame" but i dont have a "lorgnette"...yet.---
>>>> JL
>>>
>>> My gawd, how tragic! How do you read the computer screen without a
>>> lorgnette?
>>>
>>
>> O throws up her hands in horror. How some people manage I cannot
>> imagine!!!!! *adjusts her pince nez*
>
> Well, I hope they're fitted out with a silken cord. You wouldn't want
> to
> lose them.

Of course a silken cord and diamante clasp <G>

Ophelia wrote:

> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Tue 01 Nov 2005 05:55:52p, Joseph Littleshoes wrote in
> > rec.food.cooking:
> >
> >> Joseph Littleshoes wrote:
> >>
> >>> sf wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 22:24:29 GMT, Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:
>
> >>> >
> >>> > > Well if you get jiggy at X-mas (ties, tiaras et.al) I would
> >>> > > suggest using the best of china, silver, crystal etc. and
> then
> >>> > > cook burgers on the grill
> >>> >
> >>> > We did one of those dinners a few years ago, (sans tiara, but
> >>> > black
> >>> > tie and foofoo dresses)... rented a couple of limos and went to
> a
> >>> > fancy restaurant. It was just like high school all over again
> and
> >>> > lots of fun!
> >>>
> >>> It is fun but i am always jealous that the women get to wear the
> >>> more
> >>> beautiful clothing and jewellery. ORdinary street clothing aint
> >>> that
> >>> much different for men and women these days but with evening or
> >>> formal
> >>>
> >>> clothes, the women get all the good stuff. If i were in better
> >>> physical shape (bad back) would probly don a ball gown and tiara
> and
> >>> go over to
> >>>
> >>> the Castro this evening, but waking with a stick in a ball gown is
>
> >>> just not really done, im still a bit too young to portray the
> >>> legendary
> >>
> >>> rrrrrrr
> >>
> >> Grrrr....weird computer glitch sent my keyboard crazy yesterday. I
> >> meant
> >> to write that not only was i "too young to portray the legendary
> >> "Grand
> >> Dame" but i dont have a "lorgnette"...yet

> .---
> >> JL
> >
> > My gawd, how tragic! How do you read the computer screen without a
> > lorgnette?
> >
>
> O throws up her hands in horror. How some people manage I cannot
> imagine!!!!! *adjusts her pince nez*

Don't laugh! i have spent 1/2 an hour looking for glasses i was already
wearing. At least with a lorgnette there would be the tortoise shell &
diamond studded ivory handle to look for ( i would not settle for
anything less than a Faberge lorgnette) . I can barely find two lens
sometimes, gawd forbid i should have to look for only one. And why cant
the remote have an 'find' button on it like the telephone does? I swear
sometimes i think me cats deliberately hide me remote.

At least one of them seems to think sleeping on it is fun. I scour me
room to find the remote, carefully, not disturbing 'serious' only to
find her on top of it

---
JL

p.s. and have you seen that "Tiara" that the Queen supposedly "loaned"
H.R.H "Camilla" The Duchess of Cornwall! OY. IMO it is almost
comical. And its not like the Queen could not have 'loaned' her a nice
one. After all she gave one of her best to Princess Di, as a wedding
presant.

"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed 02 Nov 2005 06:37:00a, Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>

>>>> O throws up her hands in horror. How some people manage I cannot
>>>> imagine!!!!! *adjusts her pince nez*
>>>
>>> Well, I hope they're fitted out with a silken cord. You wouldn't
>>> want
>>> to lose them.
>>
>> Of course a silken cord and diamante clasp <G>
>
> Naturally. I would expect nothing less! :-)

<G>

"Joseph Littleshoes" > wrote in message
...
> Don't laugh! i have spent 1/2 an hour looking for glasses i was
> already
> wearing.

LOL errr *cough* I have been known to do that on occasion too)

At least with a lorgnette there would be the tortoise shell &
> diamond studded ivory handle to look for ( i would not settle for
> anything less than a Faberge lorgnette) . I can barely find two lens
> sometimes, gawd forbid i should have to look for only one. And why
> cant
> the remote have an 'find' button on it like the telephone does? I
> swear
> sometimes i think me cats deliberately hide me remote.

I believe you can buy some gadget which you attach to the object. When
you clap your hands it whistles at you)

> At least one of them seems to think sleeping on it is fun. I scour me
> room to find the remote, carefully, not disturbing 'serious' only to
> find her on top of it

I take it she knows just how to wind you up

> p.s. and have you seen that "Tiara" that the Queen supposedly "loaned"
> H.R.H "Camilla" The Duchess of Cornwall! OY. IMO it is almost
> comical. And its not like the Queen could not have 'loaned' her a
> nice
> one. After all she gave one of her best to Princess Di, as a wedding
> presant.

OOhhhhhhhhhh nooooooo. That is a very special tiara. Diana was never
allowed to wear it and it was last worn by the Queen Mother.

On Wed 02 Nov 2005 06:37:00a, Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Wed 02 Nov 2005 02:00:35a, Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>>
>>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Tue 01 Nov 2005 05:55:52p, Joseph Littleshoes wrote in
>>>> rec.food.cooking:
>>>>
>>>>> Joseph Littleshoes wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> sf wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 22:24:29 GMT, Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > > Well if you get jiggy at X-mas (ties, tiaras et.al) I would
>>>>>> > > suggest using the best of china, silver, crystal etc. and
>>>>>> > > then cook burgers on the grill
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > We did one of those dinners a few years ago, (sans tiara, but
>>>>>> > black tie and foofoo dresses)... rented a couple of limos and
>>>>>> > went to a fancy restaurant. It was just like high school all
>>>>>> > over again and lots of fun!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is fun but i am always jealous that the women get to wear the
>>>>>> more beautiful clothing and jewellery. ORdinary street clothing
>>>>>> aint that much different for men and women these days but with
>>>>>> evening or formal
>>>>>>
>>>>>> clothes, the women get all the good stuff. If i were in better
>>>>>> physical shape (bad back) would probly don a ball gown and tiara
>>>>>> and go over to
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the Castro this evening, but waking with a stick in a ball gown is
>>>>>> just not really done, im still a bit too young to portray the
>>>>>> legendary
>>>>>
>>>>>> rrrrrrr
>>>>>
>>>>> Grrrr....weird computer glitch sent my keyboard crazy yesterday. I
>>>>> meant to write that not only was i too young to protray the
>>>>> legendary "Grand
>>>>> Dame" but i dont have a "lorgnette"...yet.---
>>>>> JL
>>>>
>>>> My gawd, how tragic! How do you read the computer screen without a
>>>> lorgnette?
>>>>
>>>
>>> O throws up her hands in horror. How some people manage I cannot
>>> imagine!!!!! *adjusts her pince nez*
>>
>> Well, I hope they're fitted out with a silken cord. You wouldn't want
>> to lose them.
>
> Of course a silken cord and diamante clasp <G>

Naturally. I would expect nothing less! :-)

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
_____________________________

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Meet Mr. Bailey

Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:

> Joseph Littleshoes > looking for trouble wrote in
>
> :
>
> > Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:
> >
> >> "Ophelia" > looking for trouble wrote in
> >> news > >>
> >> >
> >> > "Joseph Littleshoes" > wrote in message
> >> > ...
> >> >> It is fun but i am always jealous that the women get to wear the
>
> >> more
> >> >> beautiful clothing and jewellery. ORdinary street clothing aint
>
> >> that
> >> >> much different for men and women these days but with evening or
> >> formal
> >> >> clothes, the women get all the good stuff. If i were in better
> >> >> physical
> >> >> shape (bad back) would probly don a ball gown and tiara and go
> over
> >> to
> >> >> the Castro this evening, but waking with a stick in a ball gown
> is
> >> >> just
> >> >> not really done, im still a bit top young to portray the
> legendary
> >> 'Grand Dame".
> >> >
> >> > You were just born too late Joseph. In the ages past, men wore
> >> > spectacular clothing.
> >>
> >> They also had fabulous wigs.
> >>
> >> Michael
> >>
> >
> > Did you know that the "Tiara" the Queen of England wears on the
> postage
> > stamps and the money was originally made for George IV, her great -
> > great - great uncle George IV, iirc?
> >
> > Most "Tiaras" perch on the top of the head or are in someway an
> accent
> > or accouterment to a Ladies head, being generally representative of
> a
> > 'courtesy title' not the Ladies by right but rather as a courtesy of
> her
> > husband. The Tiara the Queen wears on the postage stamps and money
> was
> > originally made to go over the court wigs the Georgians,
> specifically
> > George IV wore. And wraps around, fits over, the presant Queens
> entire
> > head.
> >
> > The Austrians used to love to adorn their warriors in jewels, i have
>
> > several pictures of Austrian Archdukes wearing more jewelry than
> their
> > wives.
> > ---
> > Joseph Litleshoes
>
> Fascinating information. Quite frankly with todays fad for piercing
> body
> parts, I know men that adorn themselves with much more jewelry than
> women.
> The jewels are not as fancy as you describe but it still does the
> trick...
> so to speak.
>
> Michael

I think it was Madam Ophelia who first mentioned it in this thread, the
'Peacock" effect? human men or males tend to be the more 'colorful' of
the species. And up till recently the more elaborate in their dress.

I mean really, other than a few rich Queers who make a living from it,
who looks at women's clothing? certainly not men.

I occasionally watch just enough of the new 'reality' t.v. show about
new & aspiring high fashion models to quickly turn it off, quickly, with
haste and abruptly as i find it embarrassing that females would go to
such lengths to be made to look so, IMO, ridiculous.

That one 'spokes model' that seems to be the host of the show looks like
she just escaped from a star trek movie, IMO. Just plain weird.

But i am no judge of female beauty, as you all may have guessed by now.
At least in the "Tantric" sense. Primaly, and instinctually, "i get no
kick from champagne....mere alcohol does not thrill me at all...."
---
JL

>
>
> --
> Send email to dog30 at charter dot net

Ophelia wrote:

> "Joseph Littleshoes" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Don't laugh! i have spent 1/2 an hour looking for glasses i was
> > already
> > wearing.
>
> LOL errr *cough* I have been known to do that on occasion too)
>
> At least with a lorgnette there would be the tortoise shell &
> > diamond studded ivory handle to look for ( i would not settle for
> > anything less than a Faberge lorgnette) . I can barely find two
> lens
> > sometimes, gawd forbid i should have to look for only one. And why
> > cant
> > the remote have an 'find' button on it like the telephone does? I
> > swear
> > sometimes i think me cats deliberately hide me remote.
>
> I believe you can buy some gadget which you attach to the object.
> When
> you clap your hands it whistles at you)
>
> > At least one of them seems to think sleeping on it is fun. I scour
> me
> > room to find the remote, carefully, not disturbing 'serious' only to
>
> > find her on top of it
>
> I take it she knows just how to wind you up
>
> > p.s. and have you seen that "Tiara" that the Queen supposedly
> "loaned"
> > H.R.H "Camilla" The Duchess of Cornwall! OY. IMO it is almost
> > comical. And its not like the Queen could not have 'loaned' her a
> > nice
> > one. After all she gave one of her best to Princess Di, as a
> wedding
> > presant.
>
> OOhhhhhhhhhh nooooooo. That is a very special tiara. Diana was never
>
> allowed to wear it and it was last worn by the Queen Mother.

Nah! I have seen pics of her wearing it, most often she wore a Spencer
Family Tiara, as at her wedding and on most other occasions.

But the Queen gave her one of the Queens grandmothers, Queen Mary's,
acquisitions, that she, Lady Di, wore occasionaly, along with a
'Riviera' (necklace, bracelets, broach and ear rings) for a wedding
present. I think, iirc it was bought cheaply by Queen Mary from the
Russian government back in the 1920's when they were 'deaquisitioning' a
great deal of 'treasures' though i could be wrong.

It was not the Cambridge Tiara that came from Queen Mary's family (the
"Teck's") but i would have to look it up to be precise.
---
JL

Joseph Littleshoes wrote:

> Ophelia wrote:
>
> > "Joseph Littleshoes" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Don't laugh! i have spent 1/2 an hour looking for glasses i was
> > > already
> > > wearing.
> >
> > LOL errr *cough* I have been known to do that on occasion too)
> >
> > At least with a lorgnette there would be the tortoise shell &
> > > diamond studded ivory handle to look for ( i would not settle for
> > > anything less than a Faberge lorgnette) . I can barely find two
> > lens
> > > sometimes, gawd forbid i should have to look for only one. And why
>
> > > cant
> > > the remote have an 'find' button on it like the telephone does? I
>
> > > swear
> > > sometimes i think me cats deliberately hide me remote.
> >
> > I believe you can buy some gadget which you attach to the object.
> > When
> > you clap your hands it whistles at you)
> >
> > > At least one of them seems to think sleeping on it is fun. I
> scour
> > me
> > > room to find the remote, carefully, not disturbing 'serious' only
> to
> >
> > > find her on top of it
> >
> > I take it she knows just how to wind you up
> >
> > > p.s. and have you seen that "Tiara" that the Queen supposedly
> > "loaned"
> > > H.R.H "Camilla" The Duchess of Cornwall! OY. IMO it is almost
> > > comical. And its not like the Queen could not have 'loaned' her a
>
> > > nice
> > > one. After all she gave one of her best to Princess Di, as a
> > wedding
> > > presant.
> >
> > OOhhhhhhhhhh nooooooo. That is a very special tiara. Diana was
> never
> >
> > allowed to wear it and it was last worn by the Queen Mother.
>
> Nah! I have seen pics of her wearing it, most often she wore a Spencer
>
> Family Tiara, as at her wedding and on most other occasions.
>
> But the Queen gave her one of the Queens grandmothers, Queen Mary's,
> acquisitions, that she, Lady Di, wore occasionaly, along with a
> 'Riviera' (necklace, bracelets, broach and ear rings) for a wedding
> present. I think, iirc it was bought cheaply by Queen Mary from the
> Russian government back in the 1920's when they were 'deaquisitioning'
> a
> great deal of Czarist Royal 'treasures' though i could be wrong.
>
> It was not the Cambridge Tiara that came from Queen Mary's family (the
>
> "Teck's") but i would have to look it up to be precise.
> ---
> JL

And even worse, i actually have a book i could probly look it up in

Its not the 'spiky' & rectilinear, diamond and ruby one The Queen Mother
often wore, which is almost as ridiculous as the one the present
"Duchess of Cornwall" is wearing but close.

It is rather the 'spiky' pearl and diamond one. Not the circles hung
with the Cambridge emeralds but rather the 'spiky' one hung with the
teardrop pearls between the diamond paved or 'studded' spikes'.
---
JL