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>A while ago (hell - it's a year) I posted a question
> about pasta making.
>
> I'm still failing.
>
> Has anyone been to Northern Italy (e.g. Florence,
> but I imagine Tuscany in general) enjoyed the local
> soft-textured pasta, then returned to dear old
> Blighty, and
>
> *successfully reproduced the pasta at home* ?
>
> I have one of these:
> http://www.sharpknives.com/gourmets_...ta_machine.htm
> Which should help with part of the processs.
>
> Yours in hungry anticipation...
>
> BugBear

I have reproduced successfully. But I Am italian

Pandora wrote:
>
> I have reproduced successfully. But I Am italian
>

Yes. But what about making pasta ;-)

BugBear

In article >,
bugbear > wrote:

> Pandora wrote:
> >
> > I have reproduced successfully. But I Am italian
> >
>
> Yes. But what about making pasta ;-)
>
> BugBear

<lol> I thought the same thing, but restrained myself.....
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

"bugbear" > wrote in message
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> Pandora wrote:
>>
>> I have reproduced successfully. But I Am italian
>
> Yes. But what about making pasta ;-)

Bugbear, if you have had success making it in Italy but not in UK may I
suggest the flour is the difference. You can buy 00 flour in UK in
supermarkets

Greetings> That s my vote also, it`s about the flour. I have to add
gluten to the flour available here. From there is learning to adjust
the ratio of flour to egg to get a firm silky dough with water or flour
after kneading. Regards, Don in Mexico

Ophelia wrote:
> "bugbear" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Pandora wrote:
>>
>>>I have reproduced successfully. But I Am italian
>>
>>Yes. But what about making pasta ;-)
>
>
> Bugbear, if you have had success making it in Italy

I have had success only in EATING the pasta
in Italy (and a great deal of pleasure, I might add)

> but not in UK may I
> suggest the flour is the difference. You can buy 00 flour in UK in
> supermarkets

I have used both '0' and '00' flour
with no improvement; indeed, with no detectable
change.

Whatever I'm doing wrong, it's a strong enough
factor to outweigh other factors :-(

BugBear

"bugbear" > wrote in message
...
> Ophelia wrote:
> > "bugbear" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >>Pandora wrote:
> >>
> >>>I have reproduced successfully. But I Am italian
> >>
> >>Yes. But what about making pasta ;-)
> >
> >
> > Bugbear, if you have had success making it in Italy
>
> I have had success only in EATING the pasta
> in Italy (and a great deal of pleasure, I might add)
>
> > but not in UK may I
> > suggest the flour is the difference. You can buy 00 flour in UK in
> > supermarkets
>
> I have used both '0' and '00' flour
> with no improvement; indeed, with no detectable
> change.
>
> Whatever I'm doing wrong, it's a strong enough
> factor to outweigh other factors :-(
>
> BugBear

Try buying semolina pasta flour and following the recipes on the packet.
From there you can experiment to get where you wish to be.
I made pasta at home for years before moving to Italy.
You don't really say what your malfunction is....

Judith go wrote:
> "bugbear" > wrote in message
>
> Try buying semolina pasta flour and following the recipes on the packet.
> From there you can experiment to get where you wish to be.
> I made pasta at home for years before moving to Italy.
> You don't really say what your malfunction is....

Because I don't know :-(

The only constant is the texture of my result;
the pasta is dense, and the surface very smooth.

In the mouth it has a texture I would describe
as "slimy leather".

Not good!

I have had this same result with 3 types of flour.
(bread, type '0' and type '00')

BugBear

"bugbear" > wrote in message
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> Judith go wrote:
>> "bugbear" > wrote in message
>>
>> Try buying semolina pasta flour and following the recipes on the
>> packet.
>> From there you can experiment to get where you wish to be.
>> I made pasta at home for years before moving to Italy.
>> You don't really say what your malfunction is....
>
> Because I don't know :-(
>
> The only constant is the texture of my result;
> the pasta is dense, and the surface very smooth.
>
> In the mouth it has a texture I would describe
> as "slimy leather".
>
> Not good!
>
> I have had this same result with 3 types of flour.
> (bread, type '0' and type '00')

then the only other thing is, as Judith says, fine semolina flour

Good luck

"bugbear" > wrote in message
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> Judith go wrote:
>> "bugbear" > wrote in message
>>
>> Try buying semolina pasta flour and following the recipes on the packet.
>> From there you can experiment to get where you wish to be.
>> I made pasta at home for years before moving to Italy.
>> You don't really say what your malfunction is....
>
> Because I don't know :-(
>
> The only constant is the texture of my result;
> the pasta is dense, and the surface very smooth.
>
> In the mouth it has a texture I would describe
> as "slimy leather".
>
Funny, this is the apt description of how most restaurant home-made raviolis
I've tasted in New Haven, CT: smooth surface, dense, slimy leather -- but
good.
Dee Dee

"bugbear" > wrote in message
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> Judith go wrote:
>> "bugbear" > wrote in message
>>
>> Try buying semolina pasta flour and following the recipes on the packet.
>> From there you can experiment to get where you wish to be.
>> I made pasta at home for years before moving to Italy.
>> You don't really say what your malfunction is....
>
> Because I don't know :-(
>
> The only constant is the texture of my result;
> the pasta is dense, and the surface very smooth.
>
> In the mouth it has a texture I would describe
> as "slimy leather".
>
> Not good!
>
> I have had this same result with 3 types of flour.
> (bread, type '0' and type '00')
>
> BugBear


I saw on a cable show called Avventura a lady making pasta at home in Italy.
She said she didn't like using a machine because the smooth rollers made the
pasta smooth and she used a wooden roller on a wooden board to overcome
this.

Said with the unevenness of the wood, it left the pasta rough so it would
pick up sauce better.

Actually, she said it in Italian and the guy translated it, otherwise I
wouldn't have known what she said.

FWIW.

Hoges in WA

"bugbear" > ha scritto nel messaggio
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> Judith go wrote:
>> "bugbear" > wrote in message
>>
>> Try buying semolina pasta flour and following the recipes on the packet.
>> From there you can experiment to get where you wish to be.
>> I made pasta at home for years before moving to Italy.
>> You don't really say what your malfunction is....
>
> Because I don't know :-(
>
> The only constant is the texture of my result;
> the pasta is dense, and the surface very smooth.
>
> In the mouth it has a texture I would describe
> as "slimy leather".

If it is slimy, make the dough more thick passing it at second-last position
of pasta machine.
Cheers
pandora
>
> Not good!
>
> I have had this same result with 3 types of flour.
> (bread, type '0' and type '00')
>
> BugBear

"Judith Umbria" > ha scritto nel messaggio
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>
>
> "bugbear" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Ophelia wrote:
>> > "bugbear" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >
>> >>Pandora wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>I have reproduced successfully. But I Am italian
>> >>
>> >>Yes. But what about making pasta ;-)
>> >
>> >
>> > Bugbear, if you have had success making it in Italy
>>
>> I have had success only in EATING the pasta
>> in Italy (and a great deal of pleasure, I might add)
>>
>> > but not in UK may I
>> > suggest the flour is the difference. You can buy 00 flour in UK in
>> > supermarkets
>>
>> I have used both '0' and '00' flour
>> with no improvement; indeed, with no detectable
>> change.
>>
>> Whatever I'm doing wrong, it's a strong enough
>> factor to outweigh other factors :-(
>>
>> BugBear
>
> Try buying semolina pasta flour and following the recipes on the packet.
> From there you can experiment to get where you wish to be.
> I made pasta at home for years before moving to Italy.
> You don't really say what your malfunction is....

Semola flour is ok for making "pasta di semola" with water and not with
eggs.
BTW I didn't understand what is the problem of Bugbear.
Cheers
Pandora
>
>

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> "Judith Umbria" > ha scritto nel messaggio
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> >
> > "bugbear" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> Ophelia wrote:
> >> > "bugbear" > wrote in message
> >> > ...
> >> >
> >> >>Pandora wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>I have reproduced successfully. But I Am italian
> >> >>
> >> >>Yes. But what about making pasta ;-)
> >> >
> >> >
> > Try buying semolina pasta flour and following the recipes on the packet.
> > From there you can experiment to get where you wish to be.
> > I made pasta at home for years before moving to Italy.
> > You don't really say what your malfunction is....
>
> Semola flour is ok for making "pasta di semola" with water and not with
> eggs.
> BTW I didn't understand what is the problem of Bugbear.
> Cheers
> Pandora

Pandora, when you can't find a flour you like you can at least get a good
Manitoba if you buy semolina. It isn't the same in the US. It's there,
somewhere, but you have to keep trying and trying.
I have made both no egg and egg pasta with semolina in the US. The egg
wrinkles up when cooked and holds slick sauces like creams and mushrooms
quite well.
I like a firmer pasta, a personal choice, so I use grano duro instead of
grano tenero usually.
I am wondering if Bugbear is using loads of rapidly, rolling boiling water
with a handful of salt and taking the pasta out when it floats up?
He hates the texture or consistenza of his homemade pasta.
Another difference is the pale eggs one gets in most of the US. There seems
to be less yolk, too, as well as paler yolks.
I cannot handroll pasta due to a slight handicap, but my roller works fine
for me.

"bugbear" > ha scritto nel messaggio
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> Ophelia wrote:
>> "bugbear" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>>Pandora wrote:
>>>
>>>>I have reproduced successfully. But I Am italian
>>>
>>>Yes. But what about making pasta ;-)
>>
>>
>> Bugbear, if you have had success making it in Italy
>
> I have had success only in EATING the pasta
> in Italy (and a great deal of pleasure, I might add)
>
> > but not in UK may I
>> suggest the flour is the difference. You can buy 00 flour in UK in
>> supermarkets
>
> I have used both '0' and '00' flour
> with no improvement; indeed, with no detectable
> change.
>
> Whatever I'm doing wrong, it's a strong enough
> factor to outweigh other factors :-(

How many eggs do you put? You must put 1 big egg every hg. of flour. If you
want you can add 1 tbs of olive oil. 00 flour is OK!
Pandora
> BugBear

"bugbear" > ha scritto nel messaggio
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> Pandora wrote:
>>
>> I have reproduced successfully. But I Am italian
>
> Yes. But what about making pasta ;-)
>
> BugBear

I have posted many recipes with fresh eggs pasta! For example Fettuccine
with porcini mushrooms and "little guitar with zucchini's flowers". Haven't
you seen them?
tell me!
cheers
pandora

Dumbdora wrote:
>
> I have reproduced successfully. But I Am italian

That means you reproduced with a donkey.

Sheldon

"Sheldon" > wrote in message
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> Dumbdora wrote:
> >
> > I have reproduced successfully. But I Am italian
>
> That means you reproduced with a donkey.
>
> Sheldon
>
Go away, Sheldon. I left rec.food.cooking to avoid jackasses like you and I
don't miss you.

"Judith Umbria" > ha scritto nel messaggio
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>
> "Sheldon" > wrote in message
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>> Dumbdora wrote:
>> >
>> > I have reproduced successfully. But I Am italian
>>
>> That means you reproduced with a donkey.
>>
>> Sheldon
>>
> Go away, Sheldon. I left rec.food.cooking to avoid jackasses like you and
> I
> don't miss you.

WELL SAID!

Pandora wrote:
> "Judith Umbria" ha scritto...
>>"Sheldon" wrote...
>>>Dumbdora wrote:
>>>>I have reproduced successfully. But I Am italian
>>>That means you reproduced with a donkey.
>>
>>Go away, Sheldon. I left rec.food.cooking to avoid jackasses like you and
>>I don't miss you.
>
> WELL SAID!

Well, *don't cross-post back there, then!* Simple.

Sheldon wrote:

> Dumbdora wrote:
> >
> > I have reproduced successfully. But I Am italian
>
> That means you reproduced with a donkey.



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Pandora wrote:

> "bugbear" > ha scritto nel messaggio
>
> ...
> >A while ago (hell - it's a year) I posted a question
> > about pasta making.
> >
> > I'm still failing.
> >
> > Has anyone been to Northern Italy (e.g. Florence,
> > but I imagine Tuscany in general) enjoyed the local
> > soft-textured pasta, then returned to dear old
> > Blighty, and
> >
> > *successfully reproduced the pasta at home* ?
> >
> > I have one of these:
> >
> http://www.sharpknives.com/gourmets_...ta_machine.htm
>
> > Which should help with part of the processs.
> >
> > Yours in hungry anticipation...
> >
> > BugBear
>
> I have reproduced successfully. But I Am italian

I used to work at an Italian resturant whose focus was Northern Italian
cuisine, i have never been abel to reproduce the owner/chefs pasta
Romana made with his own fennel flavoured sausage.

However iirc he just used semolina and eggs mixed/kneaded it to the
right consistancy (there was a large industrail mixer for this) let it
rest a bit then rolled it out on a big pasta board, folded it over
several times and sliced it into 1/2 in wide noodles. He would let it
'dry' in several large piles for not more than 15 minutes or so then
cook it up and re heat it as necessary.

He would precook a big bunch at a time, then re heat them as needed in
boiling water just before plateing..

I dont have exact quatities for the eggs and semolina i just mix till it
feels right. but roughly 1 egg for about every 1 & 1/2 cup of semolina.
Though any kind of flour can be used, potato, rice, whole wheat, rye
etc.
---
JL