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President Reagan will be greatly missed and well deserves to be honored for his
fine character and record. And condolences to his brave wife, Nancy.

And to all you losers who have posted otherwise, may the same be said of you at
the time of your death.

TT
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Losers? You must be kidding. He was the king of all right wing
whackos and through his action killed many innocents just like his heir
in the orffice today.

Tootoo1928 wrote:

> President Reagan will be greatly missed and well deserves to be honored for his
> fine character and record. And condolences to his brave wife, Nancy.
>
> And to all you losers who have posted otherwise, may the same be said of you at
> the time of your death.
>
> TT


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"Dolkian" > wrote in message
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> Losers? You must be kidding. He was the king of all right wing
> whackos and through his action killed many innocents just like his heir
> in the orffice today.
>


I note you liberals have so much to compare him to, like Carter and Clinton.


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President Carter and President Clinton. Two of the greatest
presidents who have ever lived.
If you like this new social planning such as removing Medicare,
removing veterans benefits and inflation you will adore the next four years.

Kswck wrote:

> "Dolkian" > wrote in message
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>> Losers? You must be kidding. He was the king of all right wing
>>whackos and through his action killed many innocents just like his heir
>>in the orffice today.
>>

>
>
> I note you liberals have so much to compare him to, like Carter and Clinton.
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"Dolkian" > wrote in message
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> President Carter and President Clinton. Two of the greatest
> presidents who have ever lived.
> If you like this new social planning such as removing Medicare,
> removing veterans benefits and inflation you will adore the next four

years.
>


Jimmy Carter was interviewed on 60 minutes a few years ago and he was asked
if he considered his presidency a failure. He responded 'YES'. He left
office w/hostages in Iran and a 20% inflation rate.

So tell me again how great he was again?





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Kswck > wrote:
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>Jimmy Carter was interviewed on 60 minutes a few years ago and he was asked
>if he considered his presidency a failure. He responded 'YES'. He left
>office w/hostages in Iran and a 20% inflation rate.
>
>So tell me again how great he was again?


He was able to admit his mistakes.

--Blair
"Of course, the former of those turned out
to have been the direct result of treason
by his replacement..."
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Kswck > wrote:

> "Dolkian" > wrote in message
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>> President Carter and President Clinton. Two of the greatest
>> presidents who have ever lived.
>> If you like this new social planning such as removing Medicare,
>> removing veterans benefits and inflation you will adore the next four

> years.
>>


> Jimmy Carter was interviewed on 60 minutes a few years ago and he was asked
> if he considered his presidency a failure. He responded 'YES'. He left
> office w/hostages in Iran and a 20% inflation rate.


> So tell me again how great he was again?


I don't claim that Jimmy Carter was a great president. In fact, I agree
that he was a terrible president, but the reason Carter lost to Reagan is
that Carter was too honest, and Iran had something to do with it too.

In fact, I send letters to most presidents, since and including Reagan. By
far the most critical letters I have ever sent to any president is Carter.
And I am a democrat.

Now, in retirement, Carter stands head and shoulders above every other
ex-president this century and last in terms of the work he's done for
so many charities such as Habitat for Humanity. If it wasn't for Carter, I
doubt most people would even know what Habitat for Humanity does.

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"Dolkian" > wrote in message
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> President Carter and President Clinton. Two of the greatest
> presidents who have ever lived.
> If you like this new social planning such as removing Medicare,
> removing veterans benefits and inflation you will adore the next four

years.
>



Ah, yes Clinton. From the wildly popular president who gave us all 8 years
of prosperity and huge profits in the market.
Tell that the people of Enron, Worldcom, etc who lost their life savings


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Kswck > wrote:
>Ah, yes Clinton. From the wildly popular president who gave us all 8 years
>of prosperity and huge profits in the market.
>Tell that the people of Enron, Worldcom, etc who lost their life savings


So you think that electing the people of Enron (GW Bush was as
good as a director of the company), Worldcom (Harvey Pitt was
as good as a director of the company), etc. who lost (our) life
savings was a GOOD idea?

--Blair
"Clinton was Jesus compared with Bush."
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What a crock. Try the Bush Cheney cartel

Kswck wrote:

> "Dolkian" > wrote in message
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>> President Carter and President Clinton. Two of the greatest
>>presidents who have ever lived.
>> If you like this new social planning such as removing Medicare,
>>removing veterans benefits and inflation you will adore the next four

>
> years.
>
>
>
> Ah, yes Clinton. From the wildly popular president who gave us all 8 years
> of prosperity and huge profits in the market.
> Tell that the people of Enron, Worldcom, etc who lost their life savings
>
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Kswck > wrote:

> "Dolkian" > wrote in message
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>> Losers? You must be kidding. He was the king of all right wing
>> whackos and through his action killed many innocents just like his heir
>> in the orffice today.
>>


> I note you liberals have so much to compare him to, like Carter and Clinton.


Clinton? You can spin it all you want, but Clinton presided over the
country during its longest run of economic prosprity.

Carter? A lousy president, but superb humanitarian in his retirement.
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In article >, > wrote:

> Kswck > wrote:
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> > "Dolkian" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> Losers? You must be kidding. He was the king of all right wing
> >> whackos and through his action killed many innocents just like his heir
> >> in the orffice today.
> >>

>
> > I note you liberals have so much to compare him to, like Carter and Clinton.

>
> Clinton? You can spin it all you want, but Clinton presided over the
> country during its longest run of economic prosprity.
>
> Carter? A lousy president, but superb humanitarian in his retirement.


It was the country that was lousy during Carter's presidency. As a
nation we seem to alternate between lousy and stupid. We were both
during Clinton's two terms.
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You people have never had it so good as when President Clinton led
the U.S. You were prosperous, had a great outlook and now you have poverty,
people on the street begging and no health care. You have medical drugs
that no one can afford. Good going with your current Chimp in Chief.

stark wrote:

> In article >, > wrote:
>
>
>>Kswck > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Dolkian" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>> Losers? You must be kidding. He was the king of all right wing
>>>>whackos and through his action killed many innocents just like his heir
>>>>in the orffice today.
>>>>

>>
>>>I note you liberals have so much to compare him to, like Carter and Clinton.

>>
>>Clinton? You can spin it all you want, but Clinton presided over the
>>country during its longest run of economic prosprity.
>>
>>Carter? A lousy president, but superb humanitarian in his retirement.

>
>
> It was the country that was lousy during Carter's presidency. As a
> nation we seem to alternate between lousy and stupid. We were both
> during Clinton's two terms.


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stark > wrote:

> It was the country that was lousy during Carter's presidency. As a
> nation we seem to alternate between lousy and stupid. We were both
> during Clinton's two terms.


Nah! Carter was simply an ineffective president. Clinton was probably
the most brilliant president we've ever had. After all, look how many
Republicans ended up leaving congress during Clinton's administration.
Clinton made some monumentally stupid mistakes such as having that
affair with "Miss Lewinski" but in some very important ways, Clinton
was a shrewd as they come.

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On 06/06/2004 8:40 PM, in article ,
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> Kswck > wrote:
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>> "Dolkian" > wrote in message
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>>> Losers? You must be kidding. He was the king of all right wing
>>> whackos and through his action killed many innocents just like his heir
>>> in the orffice today.
>>>

>
>> I note you liberals have so much to compare him to, like Carter and Clinton.

>
> Clinton? You can spin it all you want, but Clinton presided over the
> country during its longest run of economic prosprity.


Yup, junk bonds r us.
>
> Carter? A lousy president, but superb humanitarian in his retirement.


How about superb seditious traitor. Carter was the first to break unwritten
protocol that x prez keep their mouths shut!

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There are no rules that any veep keep his mouth shut. We especially
appreciate Vice President Gore's speaking the truth even at this very
moment.
President Carter was not only a real Christian who practiced his
religion he was a graduate of the United States Naval Academy and served
in the Navy. None of these hawks who are running the war today and
killing thousands ever served in any capacity other than to run away
after giving their oaths to serve.

The Wolf wrote:

> On 06/06/2004 8:40 PM, in article ,
> " > opined:
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>>Kswck > wrote:
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>>>"Dolkian" > wrote in message
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>>>
>>>> Losers? You must be kidding. He was the king of all right wing
>>>>whackos and through his action killed many innocents just like his heir
>>>>in the orffice today.
>>>>

>>
>>>I note you liberals have so much to compare him to, like Carter and Clinton.

>>
>>Clinton? You can spin it all you want, but Clinton presided over the
>>country during its longest run of economic prosprity.

>
>
> Yup, junk bonds r us.
>
>>Carter? A lousy president, but superb humanitarian in his retirement.

>
>
> How about superb seditious traitor. Carter was the first to break unwritten
> protocol that x prez keep their mouths shut!
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> wrote:

> Kswck > wrote:
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> > "Dolkian" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> Losers? You must be kidding. He was the king of all right wing
> >> whackos and through his action killed many innocents just like his heir
> >> in the orffice today.
> >>

>
> > I note you liberals have so much to compare him to, like Carter and

Clinton.
>
> Clinton? You can spin it all you want, but Clinton presided over the
> country during its longest run of economic prosprity.
>
> Carter? A lousy president, but superb humanitarian in his retirement.


One thing that I think speaks volumes about a person/family is how their
kids eventually turn out. The Carters and the Clintons both raised fine
daughters who would make any parent proud...you can talk about their
failures and shortcomings in other areas, but they instilled a good set of
values in their children.

Conversely, look at the messes the Reagans turned out - despite all the
money and advantages and connections that Patti, Ron Jr., and Michael had of
which to avail themselves, they haven't accomplished much in life (what
little they've done has been by riding the coattails of their parents'
fame...) and if their parents weren't the well - placed Reagans, they'd be
even bigger losers than they are....

Maureen (RIP) was the only one who seemed to have a somewhat fulfilling
life...

[Of course you can say this about the Kennedy's or even FDR's kids, too...it
crosses all political lines....]

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Your evaluation is more than valid. It is the parents that guide the
child or children. Dope smoking and using alcoholic parents don't
usually produce brilliant children. And it does cross all groups.

Gregory Morrow wrote:

> > wrote:
>
>
>>Kswck > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Dolkian" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>> Losers? You must be kidding. He was the king of all right wing
>>>>whackos and through his action killed many innocents just like his heir
>>>>in the orffice today.
>>>>

>>
>>>I note you liberals have so much to compare him to, like Carter and

>
> Clinton.
>
>>Clinton? You can spin it all you want, but Clinton presided over the
>>country during its longest run of economic prosprity.
>>
>>Carter? A lousy president, but superb humanitarian in his retirement.

>
>
> One thing that I think speaks volumes about a person/family is how their
> kids eventually turn out. The Carters and the Clintons both raised fine
> daughters who would make any parent proud...you can talk about their
> failures and shortcomings in other areas, but they instilled a good set of
> values in their children.
>
> Conversely, look at the messes the Reagans turned out - despite all the
> money and advantages and connections that Patti, Ron Jr., and Michael had of
> which to avail themselves, they haven't accomplished much in life (what
> little they've done has been by riding the coattails of their parents'
> fame...) and if their parents weren't the well - placed Reagans, they'd be
> even bigger losers than they are....
>
> Maureen (RIP) was the only one who seemed to have a somewhat fulfilling
> life...
>
> [Of course you can say this about the Kennedy's or even FDR's kids, too...it
> crosses all political lines....]
>


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Tootoostoopid1928 blares:

> President Reagan will be greatly missed and well deserves to be honored

for his
> fine character and record. And condolences to his brave wife, Nancy.
>
> And to all you losers who have posted otherwise, may the same be said of

you at
> the time of your death.


<PLONK/>

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Tootoo1928 > wrote:
> President Reagan will be greatly missed and well deserves to be honored for his
> fine character and record. And condolences to his brave wife, Nancy.


> And to all you losers who have posted otherwise, may the same be said of you at
> the time of your death.


You mean you think running up the deficit to the point where every $20 or so
dollars we pay out of $100 in our income taxes to pay off the Reagan deficit
is a good thing? You mean the same man who sent Rumsfeld over to Iraq to
sell Saddam biological and chemical weapons to buy his friendship? You
mean the same man who armed and trained Osama bin Laden is a good president.
Reagan may have been a nice man, but he was certainly a destructive president.

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On 6 Jun 2004 01:19:01 GMT, wrote:

>Tootoo1928 > wrote:
>> President Reagan will be greatly missed and well deserves to be honored for his
>> fine character and record. And condolences to his brave wife, Nancy.

>
>> And to all you losers who have posted otherwise, may the same be said of you at
>> the time of your death.

>
>You mean you think running up the deficit to the point where every $20 or so
>dollars we pay out of $100 in our income taxes to pay off the Reagan deficit
>is a good thing? You mean the same man who sent Rumsfeld over to Iraq to
>sell Saddam biological and chemical weapons to buy his friendship? You
>mean the same man who armed and trained Osama bin Laden is a good president.
>Reagan may have been a nice man, but he was certainly a destructive president.



He was a great leader of our nation Stan! No liberal spin can take
away the greatness of this President, Ronald Wilson Reagan! Sure Rummy
dealt with Saddam because he was fighting the Iranians. Remember the
hostages that were taken when Jimmy Carter was President? We were
trying to loosen Ayatollah's grip on Iran at the time. Do you know
what Usama bin Laden was doing with those Stinger missiles we were
sending him? He was shooting down Russian fighter planes in
Afghanistan which was all part of the fall of the evil empire. Ronald
Reagan had those Soviet Dictators convinced that we were developing a
Star Wars missile defense system that would neutralize anything they
could through at us!

The greatest President of all times...Ronald Wilson Reagan!

Bill


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The greatest American president was and is President William
Jefferson Clinton. Nothing he ever did in the Whitehouse killed
innocent people.
Regan was a fool and played only to the most wealthy of his friends.

Bill wrote:

> On 6 Jun 2004 01:19:01 GMT, wrote:
>
>
>>Tootoo1928 > wrote:
>>
>>>President Reagan will be greatly missed and well deserves to be honored for his
>>>fine character and record. And condolences to his brave wife, Nancy.

>>
>>>And to all you losers who have posted otherwise, may the same be said of you at
>>>the time of your death.

>>
>>You mean you think running up the deficit to the point where every $20 or so
>>dollars we pay out of $100 in our income taxes to pay off the Reagan deficit
>>is a good thing? You mean the same man who sent Rumsfeld over to Iraq to
>>sell Saddam biological and chemical weapons to buy his friendship? You
>>mean the same man who armed and trained Osama bin Laden is a good president.
>>Reagan may have been a nice man, but he was certainly a destructive president.

>
>
>
> He was a great leader of our nation Stan! No liberal spin can take
> away the greatness of this President, Ronald Wilson Reagan! Sure Rummy
> dealt with Saddam because he was fighting the Iranians. Remember the
> hostages that were taken when Jimmy Carter was President? We were
> trying to loosen Ayatollah's grip on Iran at the time. Do you know
> what Usama bin Laden was doing with those Stinger missiles we were
> sending him? He was shooting down Russian fighter planes in
> Afghanistan which was all part of the fall of the evil empire. Ronald
> Reagan had those Soviet Dictators convinced that we were developing a
> Star Wars missile defense system that would neutralize anything they
> could through at us!
>
> The greatest President of all times...Ronald Wilson Reagan!
>
> Bill
>
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"Dolkian" > wrote in message
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> The greatest American president was and is President William
> Jefferson Clinton. Nothing he ever did in the Whitehouse killed
> innocent people.
>

Clinton/Reno Short List
1: Waco ( mostly under 12 years old )
2: Mena
3: Sudan
4: Miami
5: Serbia (2000+)
6: Kosovo
7: Afghanistan




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Do you want a list of the hundreds of thousands killed by both Bush
groups and their best friends.
Clinton For President

Mr. Wizard wrote:

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>> The greatest American president was and is President William
>>Jefferson Clinton. Nothing he ever did in the Whitehouse killed
>>innocent people.
>>

>
> Clinton/Reno Short List
> 1: Waco ( mostly under 12 years old )
> 2: Mena
> 3: Sudan
> 4: Miami
> 5: Serbia (2000+)
> 6: Kosovo
> 7: Afghanistan
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"Dolkian" wrote...
> The greatest American president was and is President William
> Jefferson Clinton. Nothing he ever did in the Whitehouse killed
> innocent people.


OK, back under Bill's desk.


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It would indeed be my pleasure.
I am so glad the old ******* is dead it should have happened 90 years
ago. He was just another chicken hawk like his heir in office now.

CaptCook wrote:

> "Dolkian" wrote...
>
>> The greatest American president was and is President William
>>Jefferson Clinton. Nothing he ever did in the Whitehouse killed
>>innocent people.

>
>
> OK, back under Bill's desk.
>
>


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On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 20:03:54 -0700, Dolkian > wrote:

> The greatest American president was and is President William
>Jefferson Clinton. Nothing he ever did in the Whitehouse killed
>innocent people.


Man you really have to start reading some history.
Pan Ohco
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On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 20:03:54 -0700, Dolkian > wrote:

>The greatest American president was and is President William
>Jefferson Clinton. Nothing he ever did in the Whitehouse killed
>innocent people.


Do you really think '911' was thought up, plotted & planned in the
first few months of Bushes presidency?

Clinton did not do anything to keep something like that from
happening.
As a whole his presidency sucked and he did nothing to protect the
USA. By the end of his term, most of the military was depleted and
the USA was practically an open invitation for terrorists.

Do you really want something like that to occur again?
Maybe in your home town?

I don't. The way I see it, we have to sacrifice a little to keep
peace in our neck of the woods and keep the evil people out.

Lastly, the Democratic party loves to take as much money as they can
and spread it around like kindergartners sharing a package of cookies.


Denise, Brian & Wyatt (May 31, 02)

How much Healthy Choice ice cream can I eat before it's no longer a healthy choice?


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Take a look at supply side economics. Check out the current budget
proposed by the Crawford cowboy you know, the idiot from texas.
Talk about big spenders.
Yes 911 to 609 were brought to you by the big oil companies.

Denise~* wrote:

> On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 20:03:54 -0700, Dolkian > wrote:
>
>
>>The greatest American president was and is President William
>>Jefferson Clinton. Nothing he ever did in the Whitehouse killed
>>innocent people.

>
>
> Do you really think '911' was thought up, plotted & planned in the
> first few months of Bushes presidency?
>
> Clinton did not do anything to keep something like that from
> happening.
> As a whole his presidency sucked and he did nothing to protect the
> USA. By the end of his term, most of the military was depleted and
> the USA was practically an open invitation for terrorists.
>
> Do you really want something like that to occur again?
> Maybe in your home town?
>
> I don't. The way I see it, we have to sacrifice a little to keep
> peace in our neck of the woods and keep the evil people out.
>
> Lastly, the Democratic party loves to take as much money as they can
> and spread it around like kindergartners sharing a package of cookies.
>
>
> Denise, Brian & Wyatt (May 31, 02)
>
> How much Healthy Choice ice cream can I eat before it's no longer a healthy choice?


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"Denise~*" > wrote in message
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> Lastly, the Democratic party loves to take as much money as they can
> and spread it around like kindergartners sharing a package of cookies.


This is in contrast to Reagan and Bush who run up the deficit in order to
give huge tax breaks to the wealthy and let our children and grandchildren
pay for it. Is this what you want? I don't.

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"Denise~*" > wrote in message
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> On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 20:03:54 -0700, Dolkian > wrote:
>
> >The greatest American president was and is President William
> >Jefferson Clinton. Nothing he ever did in the Whitehouse killed
> >innocent people.

>
> Do you really think '911' was thought up, plotted & planned in the
> first few months of Bushes presidency?
>


By the same token, do you really think that Bush fought the wars in
Afghanistan and Iraq with an army of his own making? Everyone on the right
blasts Clinton for ruining the armed forces, but turned around and claimed
that we had the finest warriors and the best equipment money could buy.


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: Denise, Brian & Wyatt (May 31, 02)
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by all means, if you are pleased with the war, the deficit, the loss
of jobs, vote for bush.


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Denise~* > wrote:
>Do you really think '911' was thought up, plotted & planned in the
>first few months of Bushes presidency?
>
>Clinton did not do anything to keep something like that from
>happening.


Here's something I keep around for people who say things like that.

--Blair
"Stop listening to right-wing talk radio."

.....

"Under Clinton, spending on counterterrorism more than
doubled; the 1993 WTC bombers were caught; and the largest
counterterrorism operation in U.S. history thwarted the
planned millenium attacks. After the 1998 attack on our
embassies in Africa, Clinton authorized Tomahawk missle
strikes against Bin Laden. It is also worth noting reports
that the current Bush Administration backed away from some
of the more aggressive measures for dealing with Al Qaeda
which Clinton had passed on."

--William Danvers, a Clinton adviser on national security,
in The New Yorker, May 13, 02

.....

<<<<<FACT IS---if we left it up to YOU fvcking bozos to
actually make a decision on ANYTHING, NOTHING would EVER
get done.>>>>

Actually, that's not true.......... you need to check
your facts.

On February 10, 1995, a counterterrorism bill drafted by
the Clinton Administration was introduced in the Senate as
S. 390 and in the House of Representatives as H.R. 896. For
the record, these bills are almost IDENTICAL to what the
Bush administration has adopted.

However, when Clinton presented them, the Republicans
SCREAMED!! "The Clinton bill is a mixture of: provisions
eroding constitutional and statutory due process
protections, selective federalization. . .of state crimes
(minus state due process rules), discredited ideas from the
Reagan and Bush Administrations, and the extension of some
of the worst elements of crime bills of the recent past."

Treasury and Justice Department officials balked at
President Clinton's first attempts to pressure foreign
banks to seize al-Qaeda accounts.

Clinton was successful at grounding Ariana, the Afghan
national airline used by al-Qaeda for international travel
and weapons smuggling.


Clinton also began amassing a list of businesses and
charities suspected of aiding terrorists. This list was
used by the Bush administration after 9/11.

Clinton also asked for the development of a Predator
drone; it would be armed with Hellfire missiles. It was
not operational until President Bush came in. Bush never
used it.

Clinton had submarines on quick standby attack. President
Bush asked them to stand down when he came into power.

Clinton had, in published accounts, death squads from
Pakistan, Afghanistan, from the United States' CIA and
Northern Alliance all trying go after bin Laden.

The federal budget on anti-terror activities tripled during
Clinton's watch, to about $6.7 billion.

Most important: Clinton handed over a plan to attack the
al-Qaeda network. Bush ignored it for eight months. After
9/11, Rice implemented Clinton's plan.

Also handed over to Bush when he took office was a
detailed assessment of Osama Bin Laden's network, and how
to combat it.

.....

In February of 2001, L. Paul Bremer, who was eventually to
become the U.S. administrator in Iraq, said in a speech
that the Bush administration was "paying no attention"
to terrorism.

"What they will do is stagger along until there's a major
incident and then suddenly say, 'Oh my God, shouldn't we
be organized to deal with this,"' said Bremer.



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Denise~* > wrote:
> On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 20:03:54 -0700, Dolkian > wrote:


>>The greatest American president was and is President William
>>Jefferson Clinton. Nothing he ever did in the Whitehouse killed
>>innocent people.


> Do you really think '911' was thought up, plotted & planned in the
> first few months of Bushes presidency?


So far, I have seen no proof one way or the other how long
it took to plan the 9/11 attacks.

> Clinton did not do anything to keep something like that from
> happening.


Wrong. It is widely known that a major terrorist attack was planned
for the millenium celebration. Under Clinton's administration, that
attack never took place. Also, all of the people involved with the
Oklohoma City and World Trade Center bombings were apprehended,
prosecuted, and convicted under Clinton's watch and all the defendants
had full due process, not some trial in some military court.

> As a whole his presidency sucked and he did nothing to protect the
> USA. By the end of his term, most of the military was depleted and
> the USA was practically an open invitation for terrorists.


Facts say otherwise. What did the Republicans in congress do when
Clinton requested more funding for counter-terrorism? They laughed
and said it was more important to impeach Clinton than to go
after bin Laden.

> Do you really want something like that to occur again?
> Maybe in your home town?


You mean, freedom, prosperity, reduced size of government,
shriking federal deficit, record employment rate, low inflation,
and record low crime rates? Yeh! Sure. I want that to happen
again. That's a no-brainer.

> I don't. The way I see it, we have to sacrifice a little to keep
> peace in our neck of the woods and keep the evil people out.


Then do not vote for Bush. Bush has done next to nothing to
prevent another 9/11 attack and while he was out telling adults
how they can love each other, his buddy in Pakistan was selling
nuclear weapons materials to North Koreans and anyone else
with deep enough pockets.

> Lastly, the Democratic party loves to take as much money as they can
> and spread it around like kindergartners sharing a package of cookies.


Really? Facts say otherwise. Which party is in control now of the
executive and legislative branches? Where is our deficit going? Up.
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"Bill" > wrote in message
...
> On 6 Jun 2004 01:19:01 GMT, wrote:
>
> >Tootoo1928 > wrote:
> >> President Reagan will be greatly missed and well deserves to be honored

for his
> >> fine character and record. And condolences to his brave wife, Nancy.

> >
> >> And to all you losers who have posted otherwise, may the same be said

of you at
> >> the time of your death.

> >
> >You mean you think running up the deficit to the point where every $20 or

so
> >dollars we pay out of $100 in our income taxes to pay off the Reagan

deficit
> >is a good thing? You mean the same man who sent Rumsfeld over to Iraq to
> >sell Saddam biological and chemical weapons to buy his friendship? You
> >mean the same man who armed and trained Osama bin Laden is a good

president.
> >Reagan may have been a nice man, but he was certainly a destructive

president.
>
>
> He was a great leader of our nation Stan! No liberal spin can take
> away the greatness of this President, Ronald Wilson Reagan! Sure Rummy
> dealt with Saddam because he was fighting the Iranians. Remember the
> hostages that were taken when Jimmy Carter was President? We were
> trying to loosen Ayatollah's grip on Iran at the time. Do you know
> what Usama bin Laden was doing with those Stinger missiles we were
> sending him? He was shooting down Russian fighter planes in
> Afghanistan which was all part of the fall of the evil empire. Ronald
> Reagan had those Soviet Dictators convinced that we were developing a
> Star Wars missile defense system that would neutralize anything they
> could through at us!
>
> The greatest President of all times...Ronald Wilson Reagan!


My condolences about the death of your brain. Of course, given that you
believed the sappy tripe that Ronnie Ray-gun spewed, it has likely been dead
for many years.


--
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You obviously can't read nor have no ability to understand history.
A big time war criminal is dead!!!

Peter Aitken wrote:

> "Bill" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>On 6 Jun 2004 01:19:01 GMT, wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Tootoo1928 > wrote:
>>>
>>>>President Reagan will be greatly missed and well deserves to be honored

>
> for his
>
>>>>fine character and record. And condolences to his brave wife, Nancy.
>>>
>>>>And to all you losers who have posted otherwise, may the same be said

>
> of you at
>
>>>>the time of your death.
>>>
>>>You mean you think running up the deficit to the point where every $20 or

>
> so
>
>>>dollars we pay out of $100 in our income taxes to pay off the Reagan

>
> deficit
>
>>>is a good thing? You mean the same man who sent Rumsfeld over to Iraq to
>>>sell Saddam biological and chemical weapons to buy his friendship? You
>>>mean the same man who armed and trained Osama bin Laden is a good

>
> president.
>
>>>Reagan may have been a nice man, but he was certainly a destructive

>
> president.
>
>>
>>He was a great leader of our nation Stan! No liberal spin can take
>>away the greatness of this President, Ronald Wilson Reagan! Sure Rummy
>>dealt with Saddam because he was fighting the Iranians. Remember the
>>hostages that were taken when Jimmy Carter was President? We were
>>trying to loosen Ayatollah's grip on Iran at the time. Do you know
>>what Usama bin Laden was doing with those Stinger missiles we were
>>sending him? He was shooting down Russian fighter planes in
>>Afghanistan which was all part of the fall of the evil empire. Ronald
>>Reagan had those Soviet Dictators convinced that we were developing a
>>Star Wars missile defense system that would neutralize anything they
>>could through at us!
>>
>>The greatest President of all times...Ronald Wilson Reagan!

>
>
> My condolences about the death of your brain. Of course, given that you
> believed the sappy tripe that Ronnie Ray-gun spewed, it has likely been dead
> for many years.
>
>


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"Tootoo1928" > wrote in message
...
> President Reagan will be greatly missed and well deserves to be honored

for his
> fine character and record. And condolences to his brave wife, Nancy.
>
> And to all you losers who have posted otherwise, may the same be said of

you at
> the time of your death.
>
> TT



Sheesh, he died 25 years ago; this is merely the paperwork.

Jack Manchurian


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