On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 2:49:24 PM UTC-10, Mike Duffy wrote:
> On Sat, 22 May 2021 13:02:34 -0700, dsi1 wrote:
>
> > I've never been to NYC
>
> I did by mistake once. I was trying to avoid traffic but got cut off by
> some traffic and to avoid *that* took (at least once each) the Holland
> tunnel, Brooklyn & Manhattan & Washington Bridges before I made it safely
> back to New Jersey. It was a 4 hour nightmare; bumper to bumper stop &
> go. I'm glad it was in the wee hours of a week-day.
>
> My advice is not to go there unless you actually have a reason.

Come to think of it, I went through New York state once on the way to Europe. We might have gone through there again on the way back but I have no recollection of that. The Big Apple's JFK airport did not leave a good impression . It looked worn down and archaic to me. It looked like something from the 60's. Mostly, I spent my time looking for a NYC deli sandwich in the airport. Ha ha, how naive of me.
Of course that was nothing compared to the ordeal you had to go through. That sounds like having to drive through Waikiki 10 times or so i.e., unimaginably painful.