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On Sunday, May 2, 2021 at 3:00:58 PM UTC-4, Dr. Bruce wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> > On Sunday, May 2, 2021 at 10:37:20 AM UTC-4, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> >
> > > Mentioning passports I am perplexed by this 'no vaccine passports'
> > > by the antivaxxers. Forever and a day one had to have doctors
> > > certificates to show one had Yellow Fever, Typhus, ParaTyphoid,
> > > Smallpox vaccination etc in order to travel between Hong Kong and
> > > the UK.

> >
> > Approximately 42% of Americans have a passport. I've never had one.
> > The last time I traveled to Canada, I didn't need one.
> >
> > OTOH, I'm not averse to the idea of a vaccine passport.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton

> The idea of never having been to another country is alien to me.
> (Canada is US Light.)


If I could teleport, I wouldn't mind traveling. The thought of being
cooped up in an aluminum tube with a couple hundred strangers
for half a day doesn't appeal one little bit.

Cindy Hamilton
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Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On Sunday, May 2, 2021 at 3:00:58 PM UTC-4, Dr. Bruce wrote:
> > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > > On Sunday, May 2, 2021 at 10:37:20 AM UTC-4, Lucretia Borgia
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Mentioning passports I am perplexed by this 'no vaccine
> > > > passports' by the antivaxxers. Forever and a day one had to
> > > > have doctors certificates to show one had Yellow Fever, Typhus,
> > > > ParaTyphoid, Smallpox vaccination etc in order to travel
> > > > between Hong Kong and the UK.
> > >
> > > Approximately 42% of Americans have a passport. I've never had
> > > one. The last time I traveled to Canada, I didn't need one.
> > >
> > > OTOH, I'm not averse to the idea of a vaccine passport.
> > >
> > > Cindy Hamilton

> > The idea of never having been to another country is alien to me.
> > (Canada is US Light.)

>
> If I could teleport, I wouldn't mind traveling. The thought of being
> cooped up in an aluminum tube with a couple hundred strangers
> for half a day doesn't appeal one little bit.


No pain, no gain.

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On 5/2/2021 3:14 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> If I could teleport, I wouldn't mind traveling. The thought of being
> cooped up in an aluminum tube with a couple hundred strangers
> for half a day doesn't appeal one little bit.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
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No worries, I doubt you would fit in an airline seat anyway.
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On 5/2/2021 3:14 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>> The idea of never having been to another country is alien to me.
>> (Canada is US Light.)

>
> If I could teleport, I wouldn't mind traveling. The thought of being
> cooped up in an aluminum tube with a couple hundred strangers
> for half a day doesn't appeal one little bit.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>


Many flights to Europe from the east leave about dinner time. Order a
second drink or wine with dinner and then sleep the rest of the way and
arrive in the morning.

To make it worthwhile you have to go for at least 10 to 14 days. IMO,
well worth doing at least once in your life.

Even seeing other parts of the US is good too. I've know people that
never ventured 50 miles from where they were born.

I run up and down the east coast a few times a year but that is not
seeing anything but highway to my destination in 18 hours. On a
vacation to see things that trip should be 5 days or more as it has been
in the past.
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On 2021-05-02 4:19 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 5/2/2021 3:14 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:


>> If I could teleport, I wouldn't mind traveling.Â* The thought of being
>> cooped up in an aluminum tube with a couple hundred strangers
>> for half a day doesn't appeal one little bit.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>

>
> Many flights to Europe from the east leave about dinner time.Â* Order a
> second drink or wine with dinner and then sleep the rest of the way and
> arrive in the morning.
>
> To make it worthwhile you have to go for at least 10 to 14 days.Â* IMO,
> well worth doing at least once in your life.
>
> Even seeing other parts of the US is good too.Â* I've know people that
> never ventured 50 miles from where they were born.
>
> I run up and down the east coast a few times a year but that is not
> seeing anything but highway to my destination in 18 hours.Â* On a
> vacation to see things that trip should be 5 days or more as it has been
> in the past.


I love flying. I love the take off. I love the landing, I love looking
out the window and watching the world go by. I don't like the waiting.
For me to fly to Europe these days I have to drive to Toronto, which
will take a minimum hour and a half, but often much more. Then you
have to be there 2-3 hours early. Then you board and sit there waiting
to take off.

My last trip over was 12 years ago. We left in good time to account for
traffic, so of course there were no delays and we ended up at the
airport 4 hours early. We departed in the evening and arrived as
Schipol at about 5am and had a 4 hour layover, then on to Tallinn
Estonia, arriving there around noon. Our niece's husband picked us up
and drove us to their apartment where we caught up with our niece while
he went back to work.

I was tired enough, but after a a couple drinks and a late dinner I was
near exhaustion. We had been up early at home, left for the airport
around 1 pm. our time and it was almost midnight their time by the time
I went to bed.... in a room with white walls, sheer white curtains that
covered half the window and at that time of year the sun went down at
about 11:30 and was back up an hour later.


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On 5/2/2021 5:11 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

>
> I love flying.Â* I love the take off. I love the landing, I love looking
> out the window and watching the world go by. I don't like the waiting.
> For me to fly to Europe these days I have to drive to Toronto, which
> will take a minimumÂ* hour and a half, but often much more.Â* Then you
> have to be there 2-3 hours early.Â* Then you board and sit there waiting
> to take off.
>
> My last trip over was 12 years ago.Â* We left in good time to account for
> traffic, so of course there were no delays and we ended up at the
> airport 4 hours early.Â* We departed in the evening and arrived as
> Schipol at about 5am and had a 4 hour layover, then on to Tallinn
> Estonia, arriving there around noon.Â* Our niece's husband picked us up
> and drove us to their apartment where we caught up with our niece while
> he went back to work.
>
> I was tired enough, but after a a couple drinks and a late dinner I was
> near exhaustion.Â* We had been up early at home, left for the airport
> around 1 pm. our time and it was almost midnight their timeÂ* by the time
> I went to bed.... in a room with white walls, sheer white curtains that
> covered half the window andÂ* at that time of year the sun went down at
> about 11:30 and was back up an hour later.


I like to fly too. Shame they go so far up. Would be better if they
flew at 5000 feet or so giving a good view.

At the end of the trip the number of take off and landing should be
equal too.
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On 2021-05-03 3:02 p.m., Heywood wrote:
> On 5/2/2021 5:11 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

le he went back to work.
>>
>> I was tired enough, but after a a couple drinks and a late dinner I
>> was near exhaustion.Â* We had been up early at home, left for the
>> airport around 1 pm. our time and it was almost midnight their time
>> by the time I went to bed.... in a room with white walls, sheer white
>> curtains that covered half the window andÂ* at that time of year the
>> sun went down at about 11:30 and was back up an hour later.

>
> I like to fly too.Â* Shame they go so far up.Â* Would be better if they
> flew at 5000 feet or so giving a good view.
>
> At the end of the trip the number of take off and landing should be
> equal too.


I got a couple great presents this year, but have not been able to
redeem them. The first was my birthday present, a familiarization flight
at a local airport, basically a flying lesson. Then for Christmas my
wife and son arranged for a flight in Harvard trainer at the War Birds
Heritage museum in Hamilton. The guy who will be taking my up is a
friend of my buddy, a former pilot. This guy also flies the Lancaster
bomber they have there.
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On Sunday, May 2, 2021 at 11:11:17 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-05-02 4:19 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 5/2/2021 3:14 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>
> >> If I could teleport, I wouldn't mind traveling. The thought of being
> >> cooped up in an aluminum tube with a couple hundred strangers
> >> for half a day doesn't appeal one little bit.
> >>
> >> Cindy Hamilton
> >>

> >
> > Many flights to Europe from the east leave about dinner time. Order a
> > second drink or wine with dinner and then sleep the rest of the way and
> > arrive in the morning.
> >
> > To make it worthwhile you have to go for at least 10 to 14 days. IMO,
> > well worth doing at least once in your life.
> >
> > Even seeing other parts of the US is good too. I've know people that
> > never ventured 50 miles from where they were born.
> >
> > I run up and down the east coast a few times a year but that is not
> > seeing anything but highway to my destination in 18 hours. On a
> > vacation to see things that trip should be 5 days or more as it has been
> > in the past.

> I love flying. I love the take off. I love the landing, I love looking
> out the window and watching the world go by. I don't like the waiting.
> For me to fly to Europe these days I have to drive to Toronto, which
> will take a minimum hour and a half, but often much more. Then you
> have to be there 2-3 hours early. Then you board and sit there waiting
> to take off.
>
> My last trip over was 12 years ago. We left in good time to account for
> traffic, so of course there were no delays and we ended up at the
> airport 4 hours early. We departed in the evening and arrived as
> Schipol at about 5am and had a 4 hour layover, then on to Tallinn
> Estonia, arriving there around noon. Our niece's husband picked us up
> and drove us to their apartment where we caught up with our niece while
> he went back to work.
>
> I was tired enough, but after a a couple drinks and a late dinner I was
> near exhaustion. We had been up early at home, left for the airport
> around 1 pm. our time and it was almost midnight their time by the time
> I went to bed.... in a room with white walls, sheer white curtains that
> covered half the window and at that time of year the sun went down at
> about 11:30 and was back up an hour later.


The flight over here is pretty boring because it's mostly over a great expanse of water. If you're lucky, you might get some turbulence or your engine might blow up. That's always fun. Oddly enough, renting a car on this rock would probably cost more than the plane ticket. Some people will rent a U-Haul to drive around because it'll be cheaper. Ha ha, that's so weird.
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On 2021-05-03 4:56 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> On Sunday, May 2, 2021 at 11:11:17 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:


>> I was tired enough, but after a a couple drinks and a late dinner I
>> was near exhaustion. We had been up early at home, left for the
>> airport around 1 pm. our time and it was almost midnight their time
>> by the time I went to bed.... in a room with white walls, sheer
>> white curtains that covered half the window and at that time of
>> year the sun went down at about 11:30 and was back up an hour
>> later.

>
> The flight over here is pretty boring because it's mostly over a
> great expanse of water. If you're lucky, you might get some
> turbulence or your engine might blow up. That's to drive around because
> it'll be cheaper. Ha ha, that's so weird. always fun. Oddly
> enough, renting a car on this rock would probably cost more than the
> plane ticket. Some people will rent a U-Haul


Car rentals vary a lot in price. Sometimes they are surprisingly
cheap. When I flew with my brothers to Europe back in 1999 our plane
was to fly to Europe, rent a car, drive up to Denmark to do the thing
we had to do there and return to Paris. They wanted a full size Mercedes
and priced it from various cities. All prices involved dropping the car
in Paris. It was $1000 from Hamburg, $1800 from Paris, $2400 from
Amsterdam and $3600 from Copenhagen. He opted for Hamburg.

The last time I went to Denmark we rented a car for a day to go out to
the war graves cemetery in Svino, about 60 miles from Copenhagen. I
picked up the car in the morning and went the cemetery, then up to
Tyllinge to see a friend and back to Copenhagen, about 150 miles total.
Since I got back to the rental office past their closing time, I had to
pay for parking in the lane behind their office, $20. Between the
parking at their office, fuel, mileage and rental, it was over $200. Ouch.




> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5USIHRljCs
>

Could have been worse. A fan blade could have snapped off, sliced
through the engine body and into the cabin.

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Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2021-05-03 4:56 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> > On Sunday, May 2, 2021 at 11:11:17 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:

>
> > > I was tired enough, but after a a couple drinks and a late dinner
> > > I was near exhaustion. We had been up early at home, left for the
> > > airport around 1 pm. our time and it was almost midnight their
> > > time by the time I went to bed.... in a room with white walls,
> > > sheer white curtains that covered half the window and at that
> > > time of year the sun went down at about 11:30 and was back up an
> > > hour later.

> >
> > The flight over here is pretty boring because it's mostly over a
> > great expanse of water. If you're lucky, you might get some
> > turbulence or your engine might blow up. That's to drive around
> > because it'll be cheaper. Ha ha, that's so weird. always fun. Oddly
> > enough, renting a car on this rock would probably cost more than the
> > plane ticket. Some people will rent a U-Haul

>
> Car rentals vary a lot in price.


I'll keep that in mind. Thanks, Dave!

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dsi1 wrote:

> On Sunday, May 2, 2021 at 11:11:17 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2021-05-02 4:19 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > On 5/2/2021 3:14 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> >
> > >> If I could teleport, I wouldn't mind traveling. The thought of

> > being >> cooped up in an aluminum tube with a couple hundred
> > strangers >> for half a day doesn't appeal one little bit.
> > >>
> > >> Cindy Hamilton
> > >>
> > >
> > > Many flights to Europe from the east leave about dinner time.
> > > Order a second drink or wine with dinner and then sleep the rest
> > > of the way and arrive in the morning.
> > >
> > > To make it worthwhile you have to go for at least 10 to 14 days.
> > > IMO, well worth doing at least once in your life.
> > >
> > > Even seeing other parts of the US is good too. I've know people
> > > that never ventured 50 miles from where they were born.
> > >
> > > I run up and down the east coast a few times a year but that is
> > > not seeing anything but highway to my destination in 18 hours. On
> > > a vacation to see things that trip should be 5 days or more as it
> > > has been in the past.

> > I love flying. I love the take off. I love the landing, I love
> > looking out the window and watching the world go by. I don't like
> > the waiting. For me to fly to Europe these days I have to drive to
> > Toronto, which will take a minimum hour and a half, but often much
> > more. Then you have to be there 2-3 hours early. Then you board and
> > sit there waiting to take off.
> >
> > My last trip over was 12 years ago. We left in good time to account
> > for traffic, so of course there were no delays and we ended up at
> > the airport 4 hours early. We departed in the evening and arrived
> > as Schipol at about 5am and had a 4 hour layover, then on to
> > Tallinn Estonia, arriving there around noon. Our niece's husband
> > picked us up and drove us to their apartment where we caught up
> > with our niece while he went back to work.
> >
> > I was tired enough, but after a a couple drinks and a late dinner I
> > was near exhaustion. We had been up early at home, left for the
> > airport around 1 pm. our time and it was almost midnight their time
> > by the time I went to bed.... in a room with white walls, sheer
> > white curtains that covered half the window and at that time of
> > year the sun went down at about 11:30 and was back up an hour later.

>
> The flight over here is pretty boring because it's mostly over a
> great expanse of water. If you're lucky, you might get some
> turbulence or your engine might blow up. That's always fun. Oddly
> enough, renting a car on this rock would probably cost more than the
> plane ticket. Some people will rent a U-Haul to drive around because
> it'll be cheaper. Ha ha, that's so weird.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5USIHRljCs


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