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On 4/17/2021 11:36 PM, Alex wrote:
> John Kuthe wrote: >> And the second in a month after on 5/19. >> >> John Kuthe, RN, BSN... > > > They are all "FREE" dipshit. I'm ten years younger than you and I have > had both shots. As a "healthcare worker", what took you so long? Yes...they're all free in 2021 for any usain. Saw a soundbite on the news the other day. One company is now saying after the 2 shots, you'll need to get a booster shot the next year and then probably an annual shot after that. LOL They aren't fools. They've got everyone scared now and they won't let that go...it's a cash cow. |
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On 4/18/2021 9:30 AM, Gary wrote:
> On 4/17/2021 11:36 PM, Alex wrote: >> John Kuthe wrote: >>> And the second in a month after on 5/19. >>> >>> John Kuthe, RN, BSN... >> >> >> They are all "FREE" dipshit.Â* I'm ten years younger than you and I have >> had both shots.Â* As a "healthcare worker", what took you so long? > > Yes...they're all free in 2021 for any usain. > > Saw a soundbite on the news the other day. One company is now saying > after the 2 shots, you'll need to get a booster shot the next year and > then probably an annual shot after that.Â* LOL > > They aren't fools.Â* They've got everyone scared now and they won't let > that go...it's a cash cow. You're not taking into account the cost of R&D, manufacturing and distribution of those free vaccines. That's not cheap! Once this wave of Covid-19 is over, if it ever is, (the virus keeps shifting, like other strains of the flu) it will be like getting any other type of annual flu shot. Jill |
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On 2021-04-18 10:01 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
> You're not taking into account the cost of R&D, manufacturing and > distribution of those free vaccines.Â* That's not cheap! > > Once this wave of Covid-19 is over, if it ever is, (the virus keeps > shifting, like other strains of the flu) it will be like getting any > other type of annual flu shot. We had pretty good control over it here for a while and restrictions were eased in the fall. Then cases rose and after Christmas we went into another lock down and stay at home order. Things eased up, restaurants re-opened and then cases started climbing. They got out of hand and now we are in another lock down and stay at home order. They were going to allow cops to pull over cars and question why they were out. That lasted less than a day. Police departments said they would not do that and the province stepped away from that. -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On 4/18/2021 10:22 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-04-18 10:01 a.m., jmcquown wrote: > >> You're not taking into account the cost of R&D, manufacturing and >> distribution of those free vaccines.Â* That's not cheap! >> >> Once this wave of Covid-19 is over, if it ever is, (the virus keeps >> shifting, like other strains of the flu) it will be like getting any >> other type of annual flu shot. > > > > We had pretty good control over it here for a while and restrictions > were eased in the fall. Then cases rose and after Christmas we went into > another lock down and stay at home order.Â* Things eased up, restaurants > re-opened and thenÂ* cases started climbing. They got out of hand and now > we are in another lock down and stay at home order.Â* They were going to > allow cops to pull over cars and question why they were out. That lasted > less than a day. Police departments said they would not do that and the > province stepped away from that. > > The police have better things to do. Even during lockdown some going out trips are essential. For example, not everyone (including me) lives where they can have *fresh* food delivered. You can't tell people they have to stop eating. Ordering groceries ahead and picking up outside is available, sure. You *can* tell people going to a bar is not essential and dining inside a restaurant is not essential. IMNSHO, people need to stop thinking the vaccines are magically going to get everything back to pre-Covid normal. We're a long way from that. I will continue to wear a mask and observe the safety protocols for a very long time to come. It's the responsible thing to do. Jill |
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jmcquown wrote:
> Once this wave of Covid-19 is over, if it ever is, (the virus keeps > shifting, like other strains of the flu) it will be like getting any > other type of annual flu shot. No... Every past flu was not a bioweapon deary. |
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On Sun, 18 Apr 2021 10:01:46 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
> On 4/18/2021 9:30 AM, Gary wrote: >> On 4/17/2021 11:36 PM, Alex wrote: >>> John Kuthe wrote: >>>> And the second in a month after on 5/19. >>>> >>>> John Kuthe, RN, BSN... >>> >>> >>> They are all "FREE" dipshit.* I'm ten years younger than you and I have >>> had both shots.* As a "healthcare worker", what took you so long? >> >> Yes...they're all free in 2021 for any usain. >> >> Saw a soundbite on the news the other day. One company is now saying >> after the 2 shots, you'll need to get a booster shot the next year and >> then probably an annual shot after that.* LOL >> >> They aren't fools.* They've got everyone scared now and they won't let >> that go...it's a cash cow. > > You're not taking into account the cost of R&D, manufacturing and > distribution of those free vaccines. That's not cheap! They were given $2 billion each by the Feds. And the process they used was pretty easy. Phizer and Moderna beat NovaVax to market with NovaVax's own technique (spike protein), invented 15-20 year ago. NovaVax even had the first success with this one but they couldn't even mass produce enough for trials. Phizer and Moderna had the facilities to crank it out, NovaVax didn't. > Once this wave of Covid-19 is over, if it ever is, (the virus keeps > shifting, like other strains of the flu) it will be like getting any > other type of annual flu shot. But much more important. Because 15-25% of the adult population won't even get vaccinated. They still need something for children, too. -swsw |
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On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 09:35:23 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote: >On Sun, 18 Apr 2021 10:01:46 -0400, jmcquown wrote: > >> On 4/18/2021 9:30 AM, Gary wrote: >>> On 4/17/2021 11:36 PM, Alex wrote: >>>> John Kuthe wrote: >>>>> And the second in a month after on 5/19. >>>>> >>>>> John Kuthe, RN, BSN... >>>> >>>> >>>> They are all "FREE" dipshit.* I'm ten years younger than you and I have >>>> had both shots.* As a "healthcare worker", what took you so long? >>> >>> Yes...they're all free in 2021 for any usain. >>> >>> Saw a soundbite on the news the other day. One company is now saying >>> after the 2 shots, you'll need to get a booster shot the next year and >>> then probably an annual shot after that.* LOL >>> >>> They aren't fools.* They've got everyone scared now and they won't let >>> that go...it's a cash cow. >> >> You're not taking into account the cost of R&D, manufacturing and >> distribution of those free vaccines. That's not cheap! > >They were given $2 billion each by the Feds. And the process they >used was pretty easy. Phizer and Moderna beat NovaVax to market with >NovaVax's own technique (spike protein), invented 15-20 year ago. >NovaVax even had the first success with this one but they couldn't >even mass produce enough for trials. Phizer and Moderna had the >facilities to crank it out, NovaVax didn't. Pfizer was not part of Warp Speed. The feds did have an agreement to PURCHASE doses if they proved effective, but they were not funded like Moderna & AStraZeneca. > >> Once this wave of Covid-19 is over, if it ever is, (the virus keeps >> shifting, like other strains of the flu) it will be like getting any >> other type of annual flu shot. > >But much more important. Because 15-25% of the adult population >won't even get vaccinated. They still need something for children, >too. > Testing in ongoing with those under 16, pregnant, or other special needs that might be affected, but not have been included in original testing. |
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On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 15:26:14 -0400, Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 09:35:23 -0500, Sqwertz > > wrote: > >>On Sun, 18 Apr 2021 10:01:46 -0400, jmcquown wrote: >>> You're not taking into account the cost of R&D, manufacturing and >>> distribution of those free vaccines. That's not cheap! >> >>They were given $2 billion each by the Feds. And the process they >>used was pretty easy. Phizer and Moderna beat NovaVax to market with >>NovaVax's own technique (spike protein), invented 15-20 year ago. >>NovaVax even had the first success with this one but they couldn't >>even mass produce enough for trials. Phizer and Moderna had the >>facilities to crank it out, NovaVax didn't. > > Pfizer was not part of Warp Speed. The feds did have an agreement to > PURCHASE doses if they proved effective, but they were not funded like > Moderna & AStraZeneca. Huh. I didn't know that. So Phizer is selling doses to the government at prices that don't account for the $2 billion front money? That was an excellent <ahem> move on their part. They can claim their funding was private and markups appropriately in perpetuity. Like I said, the tech was already there courtesy of NovaVax - it was easy to develop. Phizer probably even already had it before Warp Speed. So why take a $2B up front contract? Drug companies suck [money]. -sw |
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On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 05:37:56 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote: >On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 15:26:14 -0400, Boron Elgar wrote: > >> On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 09:35:23 -0500, Sqwertz > >> wrote: >> >>>On Sun, 18 Apr 2021 10:01:46 -0400, jmcquown wrote: > >>>> You're not taking into account the cost of R&D, manufacturing and >>>> distribution of those free vaccines. That's not cheap! >>> >>>They were given $2 billion each by the Feds. And the process they >>>used was pretty easy. Phizer and Moderna beat NovaVax to market with >>>NovaVax's own technique (spike protein), invented 15-20 year ago. >>>NovaVax even had the first success with this one but they couldn't >>>even mass produce enough for trials. Phizer and Moderna had the >>>facilities to crank it out, NovaVax didn't. >> >> Pfizer was not part of Warp Speed. The feds did have an agreement to >> PURCHASE doses if they proved effective, but they were not funded like >> Moderna & AStraZeneca. > >Huh. I didn't know that. So Phizer is selling doses to the >government at prices that don't account for the $2 billion front >money? That was an excellent <ahem> move on their part. They can >claim their funding was private and markups appropriately in >perpetuity. > >Like I said, the tech was already there courtesy of NovaVax - it was >easy to develop. Phizer probably even already had it before Warp >Speed. So why take a $2B up front contract? Drug companies suck >[money]. > >-sw Drug companies suck as do most for profit businesses and do the same with govt money grubbing because politicians funded by pharmas have consistently voted against allowing the Feds to even negotiate some aspects of drug pricing, especially for programs such as Medicare and Medicaid. Most countries outside the US have tighter controls on costs. Another example of this is right before our eyes now, but the EU seems as wretched as the US about it- There is a pandemic and the governing agencies of many countries are refusing to make patent exemptions for vaccines so poorer countries can produce them locally and cheaply. No need to let the dogs out- any pandemic exceptions can be tightly fenced. I do not feel more animus towards drug companies in general (ok...I make an exception for Purdue Pharma) than I do with something such as Amazon. |
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On 4/24/2021 6:32 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 05:37:56 -0500, Sqwertz > > wrote: > >> On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 15:26:14 -0400, Boron Elgar wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 09:35:23 -0500, Sqwertz > >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Sun, 18 Apr 2021 10:01:46 -0400, jmcquown wrote: >> >>>>> You're not taking into account the cost of R&D, manufacturing and >>>>> distribution of those free vaccines. That's not cheap! >>>> >>>> They were given $2 billion each by the Feds. And the process they >>>> used was pretty easy. Phizer and Moderna beat NovaVax to market with >>>> NovaVax's own technique (spike protein), invented 15-20 year ago. >>>> NovaVax even had the first success with this one but they couldn't >>>> even mass produce enough for trials. Phizer and Moderna had the >>>> facilities to crank it out, NovaVax didn't. >>> >>> Pfizer was not part of Warp Speed. The feds did have an agreement to >>> PURCHASE doses if they proved effective, but they were not funded like >>> Moderna & AStraZeneca. >> >> Huh. I didn't know that. So Phizer is selling doses to the >> government at prices that don't account for the $2 billion front >> money? That was an excellent <ahem> move on their part. They can >> claim their funding was private and markups appropriately in >> perpetuity. >> >> Like I said, the tech was already there courtesy of NovaVax - it was >> easy to develop. Phizer probably even already had it before Warp >> Speed. So why take a $2B up front contract? Drug companies suck >> [money]. >> >> -sw > > Drug companies suck as do most for profit businesses and do the same > with govt money grubbing because politicians funded by pharmas have > consistently voted against allowing the Feds to even negotiate some > aspects of drug pricing, especially for programs such as Medicare and > Medicaid. Most countries outside the US have tighter controls on > costs. > > Another example of this is right before our eyes now, but the EU seems > as wretched as the US about it- There is a pandemic and the governing > agencies of many countries are refusing to make patent exemptions for > vaccines so poorer countries can produce them locally and cheaply. No > need to let the dogs out- any pandemic exceptions can be tightly > fenced. > > I do not feel more animus towards drug companies in general (ok...I > make an exception for Purdue Pharma) than I do with something such as > Amazon. > Patents are on a country by country basis. If a poorer country wants a patent exemption, it can do so and the EU has nothing to say about it. |
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On Sunday, April 18, 2021 at 8:30:35 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> On 4/17/2021 11:36 PM, Alex wrote: > > John Kuthe wrote: > >> And the second in a month after on 5/19. > >> > >> John Kuthe, RN, BSN... > > > > > > They are all "FREE" dipshit. I'm ten years younger than you and I have > > had both shots. As a "healthcare worker", what took you so long? > Yes...they're all free in 2021 for any usain. > > Saw a soundbite on the news the other day. One company is now saying > after the 2 shots, you'll need to get a booster shot the next year and > then probably an annual shot after that. LOL > > They aren't fools. They've got everyone scared now and they won't let > that go...it's a cash cow. More scare tactics cooked up by the dems and the MSM - the goal of the dems is to terrorize and pauperize the general US population so as to set up their feudalistic/socialistic "New American Order"... -- Best Greg |
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On 4/18/2021 10:29 AM, GM wrote:
> On Sunday, April 18, 2021 at 8:30:35 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote: >> On 4/17/2021 11:36 PM, Alex wrote: >>> John Kuthe wrote: >>>> And the second in a month after on 5/19. >>>> >>>> John Kuthe, RN, BSN... >>> >>> >>> They are all "FREE" dipshit. I'm ten years younger than you and I have >>> had both shots. As a "healthcare worker", what took you so long? >> Yes...they're all free in 2021 for any usain. >> >> Saw a soundbite on the news the other day. One company is now saying >> after the 2 shots, you'll need to get a booster shot the next year and >> then probably an annual shot after that. LOL >> >> They aren't fools. They've got everyone scared now and they won't let >> that go...it's a cash cow. > > > More scare tactics cooked up by the dems and the MSM - the goal of the dems is to terrorize and pauperize the general US population so as to set up their feudalistic/socialistic "New American Order"... > So did they create the virus too? And made it world wide? If it was the dems, why did it start when Trump was in office? |
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On 4/18/2021 12:13 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/18/2021 10:29 AM, GM wrote: >> On Sunday, April 18, 2021 at 8:30:35 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote: >>> On 4/17/2021 11:36 PM, Alex wrote: >>>> John Kuthe wrote: >>>>> And the second in a month after on 5/19. >>>>> >>>>> John Kuthe, RN, BSN... >>>> >>>> >>>> They are all "FREE" dipshit. I'm ten years younger than you and I have >>>> had both shots. As a "healthcare worker", what took you so long? >>> Yes...they're all free in 2021 for any usain. >>> >>> Saw a soundbite on the news the other day. One company is now saying >>> after the 2 shots, you'll need to get a booster shot the next year and >>> then probably an annual shot after that. LOL >>> >>> They aren't fools. They've got everyone scared now and they won't let >>> that go...it's a cash cow. >> >> >> More scare tactics cooked up by the dems and the MSM - the goal of the >> dems is to terrorize and pauperize the general US population so as to >> set up their feudalistic/socialistic "New American Order"... >> > > So did they create the virus too?Â* And made it world wide?Â* If it was > the dems, why did it start when Trump was in office? <snork> I think Trump ticked off the Chinese so they created a global pandemic just to get back at him. LOL Jill |
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jmcquown wrote:
> On 4/18/2021 12:13 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: > > On 4/18/2021 10:29 AM, GM wrote: > > > On Sunday, April 18, 2021 at 8:30:35 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote: > > > > On 4/17/2021 11:36 PM, Alex wrote: > > > > > John Kuthe wrote: > > > > > > And the second in a month after on 5/19. > > > > > > > > > > > > John Kuthe, RN, BSN... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They are all "FREE" dipshit. I'm ten years younger than you > > > > > and I have had both shots. As a "healthcare worker", what > > > > > took you so long? > > > > Yes...they're all free in 2021 for any usain. > > > > > > > > Saw a soundbite on the news the other day. One company is now > > > > saying after the 2 shots, you'll need to get a booster shot the > > > > next year and then probably an annual shot after that. LOL > > > > > > > > They aren't fools. They've got everyone scared now and they > > > > won't let that go...it's a cash cow. > > > > > > > > > More scare tactics cooked up by the dems and the MSM - the goal > > > of the dems is to terrorize and pauperize the general US > > > population so as to set up their feudalistic/socialistic "New > > > American Order"... > > > > > > > So did they create the virus too?Â* And made it world wide?Â* If it > > was the dems, why did it start when Trump was in office? > > <snork> I think Trump ticked off the Chinese so they created a global > pandemic just to get back at him. LOL > > Jill Yeah, it's called China virus for a reason! -- The real Dr. Bruce posts with uni-berlin.de - individual.net |
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jmcquown wrote:
> I think Trump ticked off the Chinese so they created a global pandemic > just to get back at him. Hilarity, anyone you know die in it yet? |
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On Sunday, April 18, 2021 at 11:13:59 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/18/2021 10:29 AM, GM wrote: > > On Sunday, April 18, 2021 at 8:30:35 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote: > >> On 4/17/2021 11:36 PM, Alex wrote: > >>> John Kuthe wrote: > >>>> And the second in a month after on 5/19. > >>>> > >>>> John Kuthe, RN, BSN... > >>> > >>> > >>> They are all "FREE" dipshit. I'm ten years younger than you and I have > >>> had both shots. As a "healthcare worker", what took you so long? > >> Yes...they're all free in 2021 for any usain. > >> > >> Saw a soundbite on the news the other day. One company is now saying > >> after the 2 shots, you'll need to get a booster shot the next year and > >> then probably an annual shot after that. LOL > >> > >> They aren't fools. They've got everyone scared now and they won't let > >> that go...it's a cash cow. > > > > > > More scare tactics cooked up by the dems and the MSM - the goal of the dems is to terrorize and pauperize the general US population so as to set up their feudalistic/socialistic "New American Order"... > > > So did they create the virus too? And made it world wide? If it was > the dems, why did it start when Trump was in office? You are fortunate to live in Florida, Ed, you've a good and sensible Governor who has taken a common - sense approach to this Covid mishegos (and other things, e.g. disowning the black racist marxist 'racial equity' claptrap for school curricula...)... Texas is another such state... Compare this to the ham - handed responses of the dem ruling cliques in IL, TX, MI, NY, CA... The current migrations from Blue to Red States reminds me a bit of the flow of East Germans escaping oppressive communism to the freedom of West Germany...peeps are 'voting with their feet'... ;-) As for the dem's response to Covid, it is a matter of record that many initially discounted the dangers. Many are on record, too, as warning against President Trump taking any 'hasty' action - because Trump was a 'fascist', donchyaknow... Conversely, some liberal media outlets commended President Trump for his initial Covid response - as did Governors Cuomo and Newsom... I've provided many links in past posts - *primarily* from liberal MSM sources - supporting the above points, if I am not to be trusted, there are scores of thousands more sources that one can peruse... I'm very grateful for President Trump's successful response to the Covid crisis via "Operation Warp Speed", many of us are now inoculated because of the quick action that OWS fostered... Remember when the media was slobbering over Europe's 'sensible' response to Covid...haven't seen much of that in the last few months... Anyways, 'points to ponder'... -- Best Greg |
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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/18/2021 10:29 AM, GM wrote: >> On Sunday, April 18, 2021 at 8:30:35 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote: >>> On 4/17/2021 11:36 PM, Alex wrote: >>>> John Kuthe wrote: >>>>> And the second in a month after on 5/19. >>>>> >>>>> John Kuthe, RN, BSN... >>>> >>>> >>>> They are all "FREE" dipshit. I'm ten years younger than you and I have >>>> had both shots. As a "healthcare worker", what took you so long? >>> Yes...they're all free in 2021 for any usain. >>> >>> Saw a soundbite on the news the other day. One company is now saying >>> after the 2 shots, you'll need to get a booster shot the next year and >>> then probably an annual shot after that. LOL >>> >>> They aren't fools. They've got everyone scared now and they won't let >>> that go...it's a cash cow. >> >> >> More scare tactics cooked up by the dems and the MSM - the goal of the >> dems is to terrorize and pauperize the general US population so as to >> set up their feudalistic/socialistic "New American Order"... >> > > So did they create the virus too? Ft. Detrick? > And made it world wide? Starting in the most Chinese region of northern Italy. > If it was > the dems, why did it start when Trump was in office? Is that not SOOOO obvious to you yet? |
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GM wrote:
> On Sunday, April 18, 2021 at 8:30:35 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote: >> On 4/17/2021 11:36 PM, Alex wrote: >>> John Kuthe wrote: >>>> And the second in a month after on 5/19. >>>> >>>> John Kuthe, RN, BSN... >>> >>> >>> They are all "FREE" dipshit. I'm ten years younger than you and I have >>> had both shots. As a "healthcare worker", what took you so long? >> Yes...they're all free in 2021 for any usain. >> >> Saw a soundbite on the news the other day. One company is now saying >> after the 2 shots, you'll need to get a booster shot the next year and >> then probably an annual shot after that. LOL >> >> They aren't fools. They've got everyone scared now and they won't let >> that go...it's a cash cow. > > > More scare tactics cooked up by the dems and the MSM - the goal of the dems is to terrorize and pauperize the general US population so as to set up their feudalistic/socialistic "New American Order"... > Aka - the great reset. Planned for decades. Previewed at WEF Davos under the "corona' logo. https://strangesounds.org/2020/10/co...eat-reset.html |
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On 4/18/2021 9:30 AM, Gary wrote:
> On 4/17/2021 11:36 PM, Alex wrote: >> John Kuthe wrote: >>> And the second in a month after on 5/19. >>> >>> John Kuthe, RN, BSN... >> >> >> They are all "FREE" dipshit.Â* I'm ten years younger than you and I have >> had both shots.Â* As a "healthcare worker", what took you so long? > > Yes...they're all free in 2021 for any usain. > > Saw a soundbite on the news the other day. One company is now saying > after the 2 shots, you'll need to get a booster shot the next year and > then probably an annual shot after that.Â* LOL > > They aren't fools.Â* They've got everyone scared now and they won't let > that go...it's a cash cow. We are still getting shots from the 1918 flu, this is not special. |
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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> We are still getting shots from the 1918 flu Do you live in a time warp? |
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On 4/18/2021 3:32 PM, Katzman rising wrote:
> Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> We are still getting shots from the 1918 flu > > > Do you live in a time warp? We are all still fighting its descendants. |
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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/18/2021 3:32 PM, Katzman rising wrote: >> Ed Pawlowski wrote: >>> We are still getting shots from the 1918 flu >> >> >> Do you live in a time warp? > > We are all still fighting its descendants. Sounds like radical Islam. |
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On Sun, 18 Apr 2021 09:30:29 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>On 4/17/2021 11:36 PM, Alex wrote: >> John Kuthe wrote: >>> And the second in a month after on 5/19. >>> >>> John Kuthe, RN, BSN... >> >> >> They are all "FREE" dipshit. I'm ten years younger than you and I have >> had both shots. As a "healthcare worker", what took you so long? > >Yes...they're all free in 2021 for any usain. > >Saw a soundbite on the news the other day. One company is now saying >after the 2 shots, you'll need to get a booster shot the next year and >then probably an annual shot after that. LOL > >They aren't fools. They've got everyone scared now and they won't let >that go...it's a cash cow. Well, duh. Bill Gates, for example. -- The real Dr. Bruce posts with uni-berlin.de - individual.net |
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