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I made about a gallon of spaghetti sauce last night and I'd say it tasted very good. Just the right amount of pepper, for one thing.

The recipe called for 18 tomatoes. I only had cans of diced and crushed tomatoes.

Here's the weird part. When I googled, it said that there are two large or three medium tomatoes per pound, which certainly sounds right. But...when I asked how many tomatoes are in a 28-oz. CAN, it said...TEN tomatoes!

How can there be more than six?

As it happened, I only checked after emptying three such cans, since I wasn't sure whether to add a fourth. (I didn't.)

Another question. Since I don't have a pressure cooker - or much room in my freezer right now - I put it into glass mason jars, in the fridge. (Of course, one never puts a glass container into a freezer!) How long is it likely to last?

Btw, the recipe says to add the tomato paste slowly, AFTER all the other ingredients have come to a boil.

6 onions
3 green peppers
3/4 cup vegetable oil
18 tomatoes (skinned)
2 minced garlic cloves
1.5 Tbs. salt
2 Tbs. sugar
1 Tb. each oregano, basil, and thyme
6 bay leaves
30 oz. tomato paste



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On 2/25/2021 12:00 PM, Lenona wrote:
> I made about a gallon of spaghetti sauce last night and I'd say it tasted very good. Just the right amount of pepper, for one thing.
>
> The recipe called for 18 tomatoes. I only had cans of diced and crushed tomatoes.
>
> Here's the weird part. When I googled, it said that there are two large or three medium tomatoes per pound, which certainly sounds right. But...when I asked how many tomatoes are in a 28-oz. CAN, it said...TEN tomatoes!
>
> How can there be more than six?


Contadina used to advertise "Eight Great Tomatoes in That Little Bitty Can"

They are talking about factory grown fruits and probably water somewhat
removed. Tomatoes vary from grape size to the big beefsteaks.

In Italy I spent time in the Pompeii region and they have acres of
tomatoes growing in tented fields. Veru colorful with the green leaves
and red fruits. They are an elongated types of tomato, not the balls in
most of our gardens.
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Boy, that was weird...

Not only did I forget to list the ground pepper, I misread it last night as well!

The recipe SHOULD say a 3/4 teaspoon of pepper.

But I read "tablespoon."

I still think it tastes good. Even if it could use maybe a little more sugar, with all that pepper.
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On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 12:00:34 PM UTC-5, Lenona wrote:
> I made about a gallon of spaghetti sauce last night and I'd say it tasted very good. Just the right amount of pepper, for one thing.
>
> The recipe called for 18 tomatoes. I only had cans of diced and crushed tomatoes.
>
> Here's the weird part. When I googled, it said that there are two large or three medium tomatoes per pound, which certainly sounds right. But...when I asked how many tomatoes are in a 28-oz. CAN, it said...TEN tomatoes!
>
> How can there be more than six?


How big were those tomatoes when they came out of the can? How many were there?

> As it happened, I only checked after emptying three such cans, since I wasn't sure whether to add a fourth. (I didn't.)


This is why many prefer to cook by weight.

> Another question. Since I don't have a pressure cooker - or much room in my freezer right now - I put it into glass mason jars, in the fridge. (Of course, one never puts a glass container into a freezer!) How long is it likely to last?


I'm still eating off a jar of spaghetti sauce that's been in the fridge since last June
or July.

> Btw, the recipe says to add the tomato paste slowly, AFTER all the other ingredients have come to a boil.


I wouldn't. I'd stir it in after sauteing the vegetables, and keep stirring
as I added the tomatoes.

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On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 12:47:12 PM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 12:00:34 PM UTC-5, Lenona wrote:
> > I made about a gallon of spaghetti sauce last night and I'd say it tasted very good. Just the right amount of pepper, for one thing.
> >
> > The recipe called for 18 tomatoes. I only had cans of diced and crushed tomatoes.
> >
> > Here's the weird part. When I googled, it said that there are two large or three medium tomatoes per pound, which certainly sounds right. But...when I asked how many tomatoes are in a 28-oz. CAN, it said...TEN tomatoes!
> >
> > How can there be more than six?

> How big were those tomatoes when they came out of the can? How many were there?
>


Um, as I said, some were already diced and some were crushed. Before being canned.


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On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 1:04:57 PM UTC-5, Lenona wrote:
> On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 12:47:12 PM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 12:00:34 PM UTC-5, Lenona wrote:
> > > I made about a gallon of spaghetti sauce last night and I'd say it tasted very good. Just the right amount of pepper, for one thing.
> > >
> > > The recipe called for 18 tomatoes. I only had cans of diced and crushed tomatoes.
> > >
> > > Here's the weird part. When I googled, it said that there are two large or three medium tomatoes per pound, which certainly sounds right. But...when I asked how many tomatoes are in a 28-oz. CAN, it said...TEN tomatoes!
> > >
> > > How can there be more than six?

> > How big were those tomatoes when they came out of the can? How many were there?
> >

> Um, as I said, some were already diced and some were crushed. Before being canned.


Sorry, I missed that part. My bad.

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On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 09:00:30 -0800 (PST), Lenona >
wrote:

>I made about a gallon of spaghetti sauce last night and I'd say it tasted very good. Just the right amount of pepper, for one thing.
>
>The recipe called for 18 tomatoes. I only had cans of diced and crushed tomatoes.
>
>Here's the weird part. When I googled, it said that there are two large or three medium tomatoes per pound, which certainly sounds right. But...when I asked how many tomatoes are in a 28-oz. CAN, it said...TEN tomatoes!
>
>How can there be more than six?
>
>As it happened, I only checked after emptying three such cans, since I wasn't sure whether to add a fourth. (I didn't.)
>
>Another question. Since I don't have a pressure cooker - or much room in my freezer right now - I put it into glass mason jars, in the fridge. (Of course, one never puts a glass container into a freezer!) How long is it likely to last?
>
>Btw, the recipe says to add the tomato paste slowly, AFTER all the other ingredients have come to a boil.
>
>6 onions
>3 green peppers
>3/4 cup vegetable oil
>18 tomatoes (skinned)
>2 minced garlic cloves
>1.5 Tbs. salt
>2 Tbs. sugar
>1 Tb. each oregano, basil, and thyme
>6 bay leaves
>30 oz. tomato paste
>
>Lenona.


First thing I noticed is that 30 ounces of tomato paste... that's
plenty to keep an Italian restaurant going for a weekend.
I use canned tomatoes for sauce all the time, usually half whole
skinned ones and half crushed. I have no reason to measure, I choose
a pot the size I like for how much sauce I want and keep adding until
it's full. I've tried using home grown Romas, wastes the tomatoes...
by the time the water is reduced all you'll have is caramelized brown
sludge and tastes nothing of tomato. Factories that reduce the liquid
from tomatoes use the same method used for frozen OJ. Much too
expensive for home use, they use a gigantic evaporation tower that
sucks off the warmed water vapor by vacuum. How do yoose think
Campbells makes their condensed soups. If your granny tells you hw
she made tomato paste by simmering tomatoes all day she was lying,
that's not possible, she bought canned.
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On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 09:00:30 -0800 (PST), Lenona >
wrote:

>I made about a gallon of spaghetti sauce last night and I'd say it tasted very good. Just the right amount of pepper, for one thing.
>
>The recipe called for 18 tomatoes. I only had cans of diced and crushed tomatoes.
>
>Here's the weird part. When I googled, it said that there are two large or three medium tomatoes per pound, which certainly sounds right. But...when I asked how many tomatoes are in a 28-oz. CAN, it said...TEN tomatoes!
>
>How can there be more than six?


This is ridiculous and so are you. lol. You cannot figure this out??

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On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 3:07:55 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 09:00:30 -0800 (PST), Lenona <
> wrote:
> >I made about a gallon of spaghetti sauce last night and I'd say it tasted very good. Just the right amount of pepper, for one thing.
> >
> >The recipe called for 18 tomatoes. I only had cans of diced and crushed tomatoes.
> >
> >Here's the weird part. When I googled, it said that there are two large or three medium tomatoes per pound, which certainly sounds right. But...when I asked how many tomatoes are in a 28-oz. CAN, it said...TEN tomatoes!
> >
> >How can there be more than six?

> This is ridiculous and so are you. lol. You cannot figure this out??
>


Not very polite. Since even WHOLE canned tomatoes are submerged in juice, it never occurred to me that they would REMOVE juice, just to add more tomatoes!

Obviously, tomato paste is a different matter entirely.


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On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 13:44:36 -0800 (PST), Lenona >
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>On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 3:07:55 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 09:00:30 -0800 (PST), Lenona <
>> wrote:
>> >I made about a gallon of spaghetti sauce last night and I'd say it tasted very good. Just the right amount of pepper, for one thing.
>> >
>> >The recipe called for 18 tomatoes. I only had cans of diced and crushed tomatoes.
>> >
>> >Here's the weird part. When I googled, it said that there are two large or three medium tomatoes per pound, which certainly sounds right. But...when I asked how many tomatoes are in a 28-oz. CAN, it said...TEN tomatoes!
>> >
>> >How can there be more than six?

>> This is ridiculous and so are you. lol. You cannot figure this out??
>>

>
>Not very polite.


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On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 3:02:05 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
If your granny tells you hw
> she made tomato paste by simmering tomatoes all day she was lying,
> that's not possible, she bought canned.


Hate to say it, but my grandmother never cooked anything from scratch that called for more than two ingredients, IIRC. Even though she enjoyed fine restaurant food as much as anyone.

My grandfather, however, enjoyed making candy, blackberry jam, and custard sauce.
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Not to mention that one always has to approach Internet information skeptically. One wouldn't say "it must be true; I heard it on the telephone," after all.

And there's no shortage of old cookbooks with errors in them, either.
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Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 09:00:30 -0800 (PST), Lenona >
> wrote:
>
>> I made about a gallon of spaghetti sauce last night and I'd say it tasted very good. Just the right amount of pepper, for one thing.
>>
>> The recipe called for 18 tomatoes. I only had cans of diced and crushed tomatoes.
>>
>> Here's the weird part. When I googled, it said that there are two large or three medium tomatoes per pound, which certainly sounds right. But...when I asked how many tomatoes are in a 28-oz. CAN, it said...TEN tomatoes!
>>
>> How can there be more than six?
>>
>> As it happened, I only checked after emptying three such cans, since I wasn't sure whether to add a fourth. (I didn't.)
>>
>> Another question. Since I don't have a pressure cooker - or much room in my freezer right now - I put it into glass mason jars, in the fridge. (Of course, one never puts a glass container into a freezer!) How long is it likely to last?
>>
>> Btw, the recipe says to add the tomato paste slowly, AFTER all the other ingredients have come to a boil.
>>
>> 6 onions
>> 3 green peppers
>> 3/4 cup vegetable oil
>> 18 tomatoes (skinned)
>> 2 minced garlic cloves
>> 1.5 Tbs. salt
>> 2 Tbs. sugar
>> 1 Tb. each oregano, basil, and thyme
>> 6 bay leaves
>> 30 oz. tomato paste
>>
>> Lenona.

>
> First thing I noticed is that 30 ounces of tomato paste... that's
> plenty to keep an Italian restaurant going for a weekend.
> I use canned tomatoes for sauce all the time, usually half whole
> skinned ones and half crushed. I have no reason to measure, I choose
> a pot the size I like for how much sauce I want and keep adding until
> it's full. I've tried using home grown Romas, wastes the tomatoes...
> by the time the water is reduced all you'll have is caramelized brown
> sludge and tastes nothing of tomato. Factories that reduce the liquid
> from tomatoes use the same method used for frozen OJ. Much too
> expensive for home use, they use a gigantic evaporation tower that
> sucks off the warmed water vapor by vacuum. How do yoose think
> Campbells makes their condensed soups. If your granny tells you hw
> she made tomato paste by simmering tomatoes all day she was lying,
> that's not possible, she bought canned.
>


And I bet yoose ****ed her granny too! Because granny had enormous
knockers, and lived on yoose paper route in 1950.




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Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 13:44:36 -0800 (PST), Lenona >
> wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 3:07:55 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 09:00:30 -0800 (PST), Lenona <
>>> wrote:
>>>> I made about a gallon of spaghetti sauce last night and I'd say it tasted very good. Just the right amount of pepper, for one thing.
>>>>
>>>> The recipe called for 18 tomatoes. I only had cans of diced and crushed tomatoes.
>>>>
>>>> Here's the weird part. When I googled, it said that there are two large or three medium tomatoes per pound, which certainly sounds right. But...when I asked how many tomatoes are in a 28-oz. CAN, it said...TEN tomatoes!
>>>>
>>>> How can there be more than six?
>>> This is ridiculous and so are you. lol. You cannot figure this out??
>>>

>>
>> Not very polite.

>
> That was a fake Bruce. I'm always polite.
>


The fakes are indistinguishable from your sorry ass.

Therefore, all are functionally equivalent.


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On 2/25/2021 11:00 AM, Lenona wrote:
> I made about a gallon of spaghetti sauce last night and I'd say it tasted very good. Just the right amount of pepper, for one thing.
>
> The recipe called for 18 tomatoes. I only had cans of diced and crushed tomatoes.
>
> Here's the weird part. When I googled, it said that there are two large or three medium tomatoes per pound, which certainly sounds right. But...when I asked how many tomatoes are in a 28-oz. CAN, it said...TEN tomatoes!
>
> How can there be more than six?
>
> As it happened, I only checked after emptying three such cans, since I wasn't sure whether to add a fourth. (I didn't.)
>
> Another question. Since I don't have a pressure cooker - or much room in my freezer right now - I put it into glass mason jars, in the fridge. (Of course, one never puts a glass container into a freezer!) How long is it likely to last?
>
> Btw, the recipe says to add the tomato paste slowly, AFTER all the other ingredients have come to a boil.
>
> 6 onions
> 3 green peppers
> 3/4 cup vegetable oil
> 18 tomatoes (skinned)
> 2 minced garlic cloves
> 1.5 Tbs. salt
> 2 Tbs. sugar
> 1 Tb. each oregano, basil, and thyme
> 6 bay leaves
> 30 oz. tomato paste
>
>
>
> Lenona.
>


I freeze my leftover sauce in ziplock bags . Take up very little room
and they will conform to odd shapes if necessary .
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On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 12:00:34 PM UTC-5, Lenona wrote:
> I made about a gallon of spaghetti sauce last night and I'd say it tasted very good. Just the right amount of pepper, for one thing.
>
> The recipe called for 18 tomatoes. I only had cans of diced and crushed tomatoes.
>
> Here's the weird part. When I googled, it said that there are two large or three medium tomatoes per pound, which certainly sounds right. But...when I asked how many tomatoes are in a 28-oz. CAN, it said...TEN tomatoes!


Let's approach this another way. It doesn't matter how many tomatoes
are in a can.

Suppose the recipe calls for medium tomatoes (it didn't specify).
18 tomatoes would be 6 pounds. 6 pounds is 108 ounces.
108/28 is around 4.

Canned tomatoes typically contain added juice or puree, so 4 cans might
be too many (as you discovered).

Life is a story problem.

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>In 1775, the British demanded we give them our guns.
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On 2/25/2021 1:04 PM, Lenona wrote:
>>> Here's the weird part. When I googled, it said that there are two large or three medium tomatoes per pound, which certainly sounds right. But...when I asked how many tomatoes are in a 28-oz. CAN, it said...TEN tomatoes!
>>>
>>> How can there be more than six?

>> How big were those tomatoes when they came out of the can? How many were there?
>>

>
> Um, as I said, some were already diced and some were crushed. Before being canned.
>


Lenona, next time buy one 28oz can of whole tomatoes. You can chop them
up yourself but count them first. You'll notice the canned tomatoes are
very small ones. Not much bigger than a golf ball. I can see how 10
might fit in a 28oz can.




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On 2/26/2021 4:09 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> Do you really have to go back to 1775 to look big?????
>
> "Snag"Â* wrote in message ...
>


Ms. O , that is meant as a commentary on what the Liberal Left is
attempting to do to our citizens at this time . If they keep this shit
up we'll shoot them too . No slur was intended on the British people .
The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be
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On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 08:16:47 -0600, Snag > wrote:

>On 2/26/2021 4:09 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> Do you really have to go back to 1775 to look big?????
>>
>> "Snag"Â* wrote in message ...
>>

>
> Ms. O , that is meant as a commentary on what the Liberal Left is
>attempting to do to our citizens at this time . If they keep this shit
>up we'll shoot them too . No slur was intended on the British people .
> The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be
>infringed. I will die in a pile of smokin' hot brass before I will take
>a knee .


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On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 9:17:21 AM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
> On 2/26/2021 4:09 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > Do you really have to go back to 1775 to look big?????
> >
> > "Snag" wrote in message ...
> >

> Ms. O , that is meant as a commentary on what the Liberal Left is
> attempting to do to our citizens at this time . If they keep this shit
> up we'll shoot them too . No slur was intended on the British people .
> The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be
> infringed. I will die in a pile of smokin' hot brass before I will take
> a knee .


Strangely, I'd rather be alive and gunless. One has so many more
options that way.

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On 2/26/2021 1:05 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 9:17:21 AM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
>> On 2/26/2021 4:09 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>> Do you really have to go back to 1775 to look big?????
>>>
>>> "Snag" wrote in message ...
>>>

>> Ms. O , that is meant as a commentary on what the Liberal Left is
>> attempting to do to our citizens at this time . If they keep this shit
>> up we'll shoot them too . No slur was intended on the British people .
>> The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be
>> infringed. I will die in a pile of smokin' hot brass before I will take
>> a knee .

>
> Strangely, I'd rather be alive and gunless. One has so many more
> options that way.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>


But you'll have NO option to the boot on your neck . No thanks Cindy
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On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 13:09:16 -0600, Snag > wrote:

>On 2/26/2021 1:05 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 9:17:21 AM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
>>> On 2/26/2021 4:09 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>> Do you really have to go back to 1775 to look big?????
>>>>
>>>> "Snag" wrote in message ...
>>>>
>>> Ms. O , that is meant as a commentary on what the Liberal Left is
>>> attempting to do to our citizens at this time . If they keep this shit
>>> up we'll shoot them too . No slur was intended on the British people .
>>> The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be
>>> infringed. I will die in a pile of smokin' hot brass before I will take
>>> a knee .

>>
>> Strangely, I'd rather be alive and gunless. One has so many more
>> options that way.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>

>
> But you'll have NO option to the boot on your neck . No thanks Cindy
>, I was born a free man and I'll die a free man .


The funny thing is that nobody wants to make him an unfree man. He's
getting all worked up about an enemy that's a product of his own
imagination. What would a shrink call that? Psychotic, probably.

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Snag wrote:
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>> * Do you really have to go back to 1775 to look big?????
>>
>> "Snag"Â* wrote in message ...
>>

>
> * Ms. O , that is meant as a commentary on what the Liberal Left
> is attempting to do to our citizens at this time . If they keep
> this shit up we'll shoot them too . No slur was intended on the
> British people .
> ** The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be
> infringed. I will die in a pile of smokin' hot brass before I will
> take a knee .


Can I have the pile of brass to reload?




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On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 11:05:00 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 9:17:21 AM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
>> On 2/26/2021 4:09 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> > Do you really have to go back to 1775 to look big?????
>> >
>> > "Snag" wrote in message ...
>> >

>> Ms. O , that is meant as a commentary on what the Liberal Left is
>> attempting to do to our citizens at this time . If they keep this shit
>> up we'll shoot them too . No slur was intended on the British people .
>> The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be
>> infringed. I will die in a pile of smokin' hot brass before I will take
>> a knee .

>
>Strangely, I'd rather be alive and gunless. One has so many more
>options that way.
>
>Cindy Hamilton


Not everyone can stand living that way. Some would rather die fighting
than be controlled and oppressed.
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On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 13:09:16 -0600, Snag > wrote:

>On 2/26/2021 1:05 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 9:17:21 AM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
>>> On 2/26/2021 4:09 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>> Do you really have to go back to 1775 to look big?????
>>>>
>>>> "Snag" wrote in message ...
>>>>
>>> Ms. O , that is meant as a commentary on what the Liberal Left is
>>> attempting to do to our citizens at this time . If they keep this shit
>>> up we'll shoot them too . No slur was intended on the British people .
>>> The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be
>>> infringed. I will die in a pile of smokin' hot brass before I will take
>>> a knee .

>>
>> Strangely, I'd rather be alive and gunless. One has so many more
>> options that way.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>

>
> But you'll have NO option to the boot on your neck . No thanks Cindy
>, I was born a free man and I'll die a free man .


I'm with you there.
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On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 2:09:21 PM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
> On 2/26/2021 1:05 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 9:17:21 AM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
> >> On 2/26/2021 4:09 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >>> Do you really have to go back to 1775 to look big?????
> >>>
> >>> "Snag" wrote in message ...
> >>>
> >> Ms. O , that is meant as a commentary on what the Liberal Left is
> >> attempting to do to our citizens at this time . If they keep this shit
> >> up we'll shoot them too . No slur was intended on the British people .
> >> The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be
> >> infringed. I will die in a pile of smokin' hot brass before I will take
> >> a knee .

> >
> > Strangely, I'd rather be alive and gunless. One has so many more
> > options that way.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >

> But you'll have NO option to the boot on your neck . No thanks Cindy
> , I was born a free man and I'll die a free man .


What boot? You have a rich fantasy life.

I will die free, too. This isn't North Korea.

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On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 2:53:53 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 11:05:00 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 9:17:21 AM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
> >> On 2/26/2021 4:09 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >> > Do you really have to go back to 1775 to look big?????
> >> >
> >> > "Snag" wrote in message ...
> >> >
> >> Ms. O , that is meant as a commentary on what the Liberal Left is
> >> attempting to do to our citizens at this time . If they keep this shit
> >> up we'll shoot them too . No slur was intended on the British people .
> >> The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be
> >> infringed. I will die in a pile of smokin' hot brass before I will take
> >> a knee .

> >
> >Strangely, I'd rather be alive and gunless. One has so many more
> >options that way.
> >
> >Cindy Hamilton

> Not everyone can stand living that way. Some would rather die fighting
> than be controlled and oppressed.


There's no oppression, you fool. What specifically are you terrified of?

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On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 06:16:09 +1100, Bruce > wrote:

>On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 13:09:16 -0600, Snag > wrote:
>
>>On 2/26/2021 1:05 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 9:17:21 AM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
>>>> On 2/26/2021 4:09 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>> Do you really have to go back to 1775 to look big?????
>>>>>
>>>>> "Snag" wrote in message ...
>>>>>
>>>> Ms. O , that is meant as a commentary on what the Liberal Left is
>>>> attempting to do to our citizens at this time . If they keep this shit
>>>> up we'll shoot them too . No slur was intended on the British people .
>>>> The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be
>>>> infringed. I will die in a pile of smokin' hot brass before I will take
>>>> a knee .
>>>
>>> Strangely, I'd rather be alive and gunless. One has so many more
>>> options that way.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>

>>
>> But you'll have NO option to the boot on your neck . No thanks Cindy
>>, I was born a free man and I'll die a free man .

>
>The funny thing is that nobody wants to make him an unfree man. He's
>getting all worked up about an enemy that's a product of his own
>imagination. What would a shrink call that? Psychotic, probably.


No. A shrink would now class it as 'toxic masculinity'
https://www.apa.org/monitor/2019/01/ce-corner and have them sent to a
reeducation facility. Yes, the American psychological association has
gone WOKE and are now using Marxist techniques in line with the new
authoritarian government requirements.


Did you really just say that? Here's advice on how to confront
microaggressions, whether you're a target, bystander or perpetrator
https://www.apa.org/monitor/2017/01/microaggressions


APA calls for true systemic change in U.S. culture
The association is working to dismantle institutional racism over the
long term, including within APA and psychology
https://www.apa.org/monitor/2020/09/systemic-change

So NOW another branch of science has been neutered from stating basic
truths and has become another tool for controlling the population.
These are the people who decide officially if you are sane, or insane.
But it's OK, the orange man is gone now.

John Kuthe, MAGA...



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On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 11:58:54 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 2:09:21 PM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
>> On 2/26/2021 1:05 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> > On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 9:17:21 AM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
>> >> On 2/26/2021 4:09 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> >>> Do you really have to go back to 1775 to look big?????
>> >>>
>> >>> "Snag" wrote in message ...
>> >>>
>> >> Ms. O , that is meant as a commentary on what the Liberal Left is
>> >> attempting to do to our citizens at this time . If they keep this shit
>> >> up we'll shoot them too . No slur was intended on the British people .
>> >> The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be
>> >> infringed. I will die in a pile of smokin' hot brass before I will take
>> >> a knee .
>> >
>> > Strangely, I'd rather be alive and gunless. One has so many more
>> > options that way.
>> >
>> > Cindy Hamilton
>> >

>> But you'll have NO option to the boot on your neck . No thanks Cindy
>> , I was born a free man and I'll die a free man .

>
>What boot? You have a rich fantasy life.
>
>I will die free, too.


Define 'free'.

>This isn't North Korea.


It also isn't the USA any longer, either. Yep, your type can have the
boot on their neck and the only thought is to admire the Nike logo on
that boot.
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On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 11:59:59 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 2:53:53 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 11:05:00 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 9:17:21 AM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
>> >> On 2/26/2021 4:09 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> >> > Do you really have to go back to 1775 to look big?????
>> >> >
>> >> > "Snag" wrote in message ...
>> >> >
>> >> Ms. O , that is meant as a commentary on what the Liberal Left is
>> >> attempting to do to our citizens at this time . If they keep this shit
>> >> up we'll shoot them too . No slur was intended on the British people .
>> >> The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be
>> >> infringed. I will die in a pile of smokin' hot brass before I will take
>> >> a knee .
>> >
>> >Strangely, I'd rather be alive and gunless. One has so many more
>> >options that way.
>> >
>> >Cindy Hamilton

>> Not everyone can stand living that way. Some would rather die fighting
>> than be controlled and oppressed.

>
>There's no oppression, you fool. What specifically are you terrified of?
>
>Cindy Hamilton


Even I gave you more credit for having being more intelligent than you
demonstrate here. Try opposing the current regime in your personal and
professional life and see what happens. You must be ****ing blind? You
are in complete denial.
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On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 08:16:47 -0600, Snag > wrote:

>On 2/26/2021 4:09 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> Do you really have to go back to 1775 to look big?????
>>
>> "Snag"* wrote in message ...
>>

>
> Ms. O , that is meant as a commentary on what the Liberal Left is
>attempting to do to our citizens at this time . If they keep this shit
>up we'll shoot them too . No slur was intended on the British people .
> The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be
>infringed. I will die in a pile of smokin' hot brass before I will take
>a knee .

a powder and ball musket vs. a rocket launcher? You can have all the
muskets you want. That's what was in use in the right to bear arms.
Next you'll want tanks.
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On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 13:27:33 -0700, US Janet >
wrote:

>On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 08:16:47 -0600, Snag > wrote:
>
>>On 2/26/2021 4:09 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>> Do you really have to go back to 1775 to look big?????
>>>
>>> "Snag"* wrote in message ...
>>>

>>
>> Ms. O , that is meant as a commentary on what the Liberal Left is
>>attempting to do to our citizens at this time . If they keep this shit
>>up we'll shoot them too . No slur was intended on the British people .
>> The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be
>>infringed. I will die in a pile of smokin' hot brass before I will take
>>a knee .

> a powder and ball musket vs. a rocket launcher? You can have all the
>muskets you want. That's what was in use in the right to bear arms.
>Next you'll want tanks.
>Janet US


Tanks? So last century. Now, they would use social media... Oh, wait.
they already have.
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On 2/26/2021 12:27 PM, US Janet wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 08:16:47 -0600, Snag > wrote:
>
>> On 2/26/2021 4:09 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>> Do you really have to go back to 1775 to look big?????
>>>
>>> "Snag"Â* wrote in message ...
>>>

>>
>> Ms. O , that is meant as a commentary on what the Liberal Left is
>> attempting to do to our citizens at this time . If they keep this shit
>> up we'll shoot them too . No slur was intended on the British people .
>> The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be
>> infringed. I will die in a pile of smokin' hot brass before I will take
>> a knee .

> a powder and ball musket vs. a rocket launcher?


Whatever it takes to be effective against an oppressive government that
needs to be reined in. If they have rocket launchers, why should be
limited to muskets?




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On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 12:45:59 -0800, Taxed and Spent
> wrote:

>On 2/26/2021 12:27 PM, US Janet wrote:
>> On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 08:16:47 -0600, Snag > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/26/2021 4:09 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>> Do you really have to go back to 1775 to look big?????
>>>>
>>>> "Snag"Â* wrote in message ...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ms. O , that is meant as a commentary on what the Liberal Left is
>>> attempting to do to our citizens at this time . If they keep this shit
>>> up we'll shoot them too . No slur was intended on the British people .
>>> The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be
>>> infringed. I will die in a pile of smokin' hot brass before I will take
>>> a knee .

>> a powder and ball musket vs. a rocket launcher?

>
>Whatever it takes to be effective against an oppressive government that
>needs to be reined in. If they have rocket launchers, why should be
>limited to muskets?


Mass hysteria isn't a new concept, but I've never heard of mass
psychosis before. It googles a bit, but not convincingly. I guess mass
hysteria will have to do.

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On 2021-02-26 12:09 p.m., Snag wrote:
> On 2/26/2021 1:05 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 9:17:21 AM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
>>> On 2/26/2021 4:09 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>> Do you really have to go back to 1775 to look big?????
>>>>
>>>> "Snag" wrote in message ...
>>>>
>>> Ms. O , that is meant as a commentary on what the Liberal Left is
>>> attempting to do to our citizens at this time . If they keep this shit
>>> up we'll shoot them too . No slur was intended on the British people .
>>> The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be
>>> infringed. I will die in a pile of smokin' hot brass before I will take
>>> a knee .

>>
>> Strangely, I'd rather be alive and gunless.Â* One has so many more
>> options that way.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>

>
> Â* But you'll have NO option to the boot on your neck . No thanks Cindy
> , I was born a free man and I'll die a free man .


You won't be if the religious nutters have their way and turn the US
into a theocracy.
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On 2/26/2021 1:47 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
> Snag wrote:
>> On 2/26/2021 4:09 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>> Â* Do you really have to go back to 1775 to look big?????
>>>
>>> "Snag"ÂÂ* wrote in message ...
>>>

>>
>> Â*Â* Ms. O , that is meant as a commentary on what the Liberal Left is
>> attempting to do to our citizens at this time . If they keep this shit
>> up we'll shoot them too . No slur was intended on the British people .
>> Â*Â*Â* The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be
>> infringed. I will die in a pile of smokin' hot brass before I will
>> take a knee .

>
> Can I have the pile of brass to reload?
>
>


Well if I'm dead I won't be needing it ...
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On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 14:13:15 -0700, Graham > wrote:

>On 2021-02-26 12:09 p.m., Snag wrote:
>> On 2/26/2021 1:05 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 9:17:21 AM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
>>>> On 2/26/2021 4:09 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>> Do you really have to go back to 1775 to look big?????
>>>>>
>>>>> "Snag" wrote in message ...
>>>>>
>>>> Ms. O , that is meant as a commentary on what the Liberal Left is
>>>> attempting to do to our citizens at this time . If they keep this shit
>>>> up we'll shoot them too . No slur was intended on the British people .
>>>> The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be
>>>> infringed. I will die in a pile of smokin' hot brass before I will take
>>>> a knee .
>>>
>>> Strangely, I'd rather be alive and gunless.Â* One has so many more
>>> options that way.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>

>>
>> Â* But you'll have NO option to the boot on your neck . No thanks Cindy
>> , I was born a free man and I'll die a free man .

>
>You won't be if the religious nutters have their way and turn the US
>into a theocracy.


Touché!

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On 2/26/2021 2:27 PM, US Janet wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 08:16:47 -0600, Snag > wrote:
>
>> On 2/26/2021 4:09 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>> Do you really have to go back to 1775 to look big?????
>>>
>>> "Snag"Â* wrote in message ...
>>>

>>
>> Ms. O , that is meant as a commentary on what the Liberal Left is
>> attempting to do to our citizens at this time . If they keep this shit
>> up we'll shoot them too . No slur was intended on the British people .
>> The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be
>> infringed. I will die in a pile of smokin' hot brass before I will take
>> a knee .

> a powder and ball musket vs. a rocket launcher? You can have all the
> muskets you want. That's what was in use in the right to bear arms.
> Next you'll want tanks.
> Janet US
>


The "common military firearm" of that period was the same as "the
common hunting firearm" . In other words , there was parity between
common civilian firearms and military arms . Hell , some guys owned
their own cannons ! I believe we should also have parity of (at least
small) arms with our military . Oh , and I DO have powder and ball
firearms . As a last resort survival weapon , because I can manufacture
ammunition for it with common easy to find items . Oh , and don't
denigrate the old black powder arms , they were capable of astonishing
accuracy out to a thousand yards or more . If the rocket launcher can't
see you , he can't kill you .
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