Ophelia wrote:
....
> We are doing very well. The EU are jealous because they made a mistake!
> First they threatened us to give them some of ours and now they are
> begging!!
>
> This has made me very angry

it's a big mess for sure, people need to be patient,
considering these first few vaccines were developed and
tested in record time a few more months should be put into
perspective.

i'm not whining (too much) about having to wait for my
turn. just want it done.


songbird

On 2021-01-28 8:28 a.m., songbird wrote:
> Ophelia wrote:
> ...
>> We are doing very well. The EU are jealous because they made a mistake!
>> First they threatened us to give them some of ours and now they are
>> begging!!
>>
>> This has made me very angry
>
> it's a big mess for sure, people need to be patient,
> considering these first few vaccines were developed and
> tested in record time a few more months should be put into
> perspective.
>
> i'm not whining (too much) about having to wait for my
> turn. just want it done.
>


I have to wonder about the demographics of the people in Canada who are
being prioritized for vaccination. The very first were the people
working in long term care facilities, mostly people of colour, like
Fillippino and Caribbean women. Next were native people in remote
communities. The official reason for the later was that they have
limited access to health care in their remote communities. I heard a
news story the other day where they were so happy to have vaccinated 700
elders in a remote first nation community. I had to really question
that one because they had no infections at all in that community. None.
Meanwhile, there are hot spots with rising rates who desperately need
the vaccine.

The reason I question the demographics is that a couple weeks ago I
heard a person of colour complaining about how vaccines are usually
developed by white Europeans and tested on people of colour. The
suggestion was that if it had serious side effects or lacked
effectiveness it would affect those people of colour and white people
would get the new and improved version. Then they started with the
vaccination program and, sure enough... people of colour.

Sometimes you just can't win.

On 1/28/2021 10:48 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-01-28 8:28 a.m., songbird wrote:
>> Ophelia wrote:
>> ...
>>> Â*Â* We are doing very well.Â* The EU are jealous because they made a
>>> mistake!
>>> First they threatened us to give them some of ours and now they are
>>> begging!!
>>>
>>> Â*Â* This has made me very angry
>>
>> Â*Â* Â* it's a big mess for sure, people need to be patient,
>> considering these first few vaccines were developed and
>> tested in record time a few more months should be put into
>> perspective.
>>
>> Â*Â* i'm not whining (too much) about having to wait for my
>> turn.Â* just want it done.
>>
>
>
> I have to wonder about the demographics of the people in Canada who are
> being prioritized for vaccination.Â* The very first were the people
> working in long term care facilities, mostly people of colour, like
> Fillippino and Caribbean women. Next were native people in remote
> communities. The official reason for the later was that they have
> limited access to health care in their remote communities. I heard a
> news story the other day where they were so happy to have vaccinated 700
> elders in a remote first nation community.Â* I had to really question
> that one because they had no infections at all in that community. None.
> Meanwhile, there are hot spots with rising rates who desperately need
> the vaccine.
>
> The reason I question the demographics is that a couple weeks ago I
> heard a person of colour complaining about how vaccines are usually
> developed by white Europeans and tested on people of colour. The
> suggestion was that if it had serious side effects or lacked
> effectiveness it would affect those people of colour and white people
> would get the new and improved version. Then they started with the
> vaccination program and, sure enough... people of colour.
>
> Sometimes you just can't win.
>
>
>
People of color have a much higher death rate so getting them vaccinated
is a priority.

As for testing, they accepted many types and ages. People working in
the nursing homes were also responsible for much of the spread so
getting them done first should be a priority. Of course you can read
the color factor into that.

As for the 700 in a first nation community, if there was an infection I
imagine it would be more devastating than in the cities.

On 2021-01-28 9:14 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 1/28/2021 10:48 AM, Dave Smith wrote:

>> The reason I question the demographics is that a couple weeks ago I
>> heard a person of colour complaining about how vaccines are usually
>> developed by white Europeans and tested on people of colour. The
>> suggestion was that if it had serious side effects or lacked
>> effectiveness it would affect those people of colour and white people
>> would get the new and improved version. Then they started with the
>> vaccination program and, sure enough... people of colour.
>>
>> Sometimes you just can't win.
>>
>>
>>
> People of color have a much higher death rate so getting them vaccinated
> is a priority.
>
> As for testing, they accepted many types and ages.Â* People working in
> the nursing homes were also responsible for much of the spread so
> getting them done first should be a priority.Â* Of course you can read
> the color factor into that.
>
> As for the 700 in a first nation community, if there was an infection I
> imagine it would be more devastating than in the cities.

Maybe I should have written that the other way around. I should have
started with the complaint about White Europeans making vaccines and
testing them on people of colour. I don't object to those front line
workers getting the vaccine. It seems that their working in low paying
jobs leads to them living, working and commuting in close contact with
others, and if they get infected they will pass it on to the more
susceptible residents of the old folks homes. I do question the motive
for that particular native community. We are almost a year into this
pandemic and they have not had a single case. There are other areas that
are much more in need of the vaccine,

"songbird" wrote in message ...

Ophelia wrote:
....
> We are doing very well. The EU are jealous because they made a mistake!
> First they threatened us to give them some of ours and now they are
> begging!!
>
> This has made me very angry

it's a big mess for sure, people need to be patient,
considering these first few vaccines were developed and
tested in record time a few more months should be put into
perspective.

i'm not whining (too much) about having to wait for my
turn. just want it done.


songbird

====

Absolutely!! I get mine next Thursday. Not sure when D. will get his.
I have asthma you see so I have priority.