On 2020-12-31 10:25 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 12:02:23 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>
>> I like true stories, the history of clothing, food, etc.
>
> How can you be so well-read and not know that coriander is the seed of
> the plant whose leaves we call cilantro?

It is yet another example of her willful ignorance.

On 2020-12-31 10:46 a.m., Graham wrote:

>> I don't have a problem with renewals now. Since materials sit in
>> quarantine for four days they are not fining people for late materials.
>> I expect that if you had an ebook on loan it would be deleted at the
>> end of the loan period.
>
> Yes, that's what happens.
> Incidentally, if you decide to get an e-reader, only KOBO can access
> Canadian public libraries.
>

Thanks for that bit of information. I was just about to order something
and it was not a Kobo. Good thing I saw this first.

On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 10:52:21 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > Before you select a library book, go to Amazon and see if you can
> > preview the book.
> For a physical library book, just read the summary on the inside of the
> jacket.

He can't go into the library at this time. He has to reserve a book in
advance and they deliver it at the door.

Cindy Hamilton

On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 10:46:48 AM UTC-5, Graham wrote:

> Incidentally, if you decide to get an e-reader, only KOBO can access
> Canadian public libraries.

It might be worth investigating whether the Kobo app works as well.
It's available on a number of platforms.

Cindy Hamilton

On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 10:53:22 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Master Bruce wrote:
>
>> Not that I wear a mask myself, but Australia has little
>> covid. So far.
>
>And hopefully, you'll do your part to keep that way by wearing a mask
>whenever you go into public places. (just in case)

The last time I was in town and in a supermarket, nobody was wearing a
mask. Australia doesn't have much covid. That could change if the
current outbreak in Sydney gets out of hand.

On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 13:48:04 -0000, Janet > wrote:

>In article >,
>says...
>> I don't know about other people, but I find it difficult to select books
>> to read without being able to open them up and have a look.
>
> If you go book shopping on Amazon, you can read the reviews and often
>"open the page" for a free sample read. In UK, we can buy sexondhand
>books online for pennies (I recommend Abe Book. I'm happy to take
>recommendations from people I know IRL or online, whose tastes have
>previously matched mine. Plus, we got a dozen new books as Christmas
>presents.

I've bought from them in the past. It wasn't for "pennies"

On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 14:42:40 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"Master Bruce" wrote in message
.. .
>
>On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 10:37:50 -0500, jmcquown >
>wrote:
>
>>On 12/30/2020 4:37 AM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 7:40:11 PM UTC-6, Graham wrote:
>>>
>>> A few years ago, around this time of year, a worthless piece of shit
>>> ceased to exist.
>>> It would be lovely if Julie followed Andy. Imagine her dying alone in an
>>> ICU. Maybe
>>> one of the misfits she consorts with will kill her. Maybe the turdlet
>>> will kill her.
>>> Maybe the ex-husband will kill her. With her myriad health problems,
>>> she's a good
>>> candidate for death if she gets the virus.
>>>
>>> --Bryan
>>>
>>That's low, even for you.
>
>He can't help it. He's edgy.
>
>=====
>
> He is nasty and vicious. Everything he wishes on other people. I wish on
>HIM!!!!!

It's rather sick, but he thinks it's edgy.

On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 07:11:57 -0500, songbird >
wrote:

>Master Bruce wrote:
>...
>> So you DO need an e-reader. Amazing the thought process that can occur
>> during one post!
>
> don't strain yourself.

Tried any white asparagus yet?

On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 08:46:42 -0700, Graham > wrote:

>On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 10:30:14 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> On 2020-12-31 4:52 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 4:18:40 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>>> That looks like a lot of work, but it is a good idea. I confess that I
>>>> like to have a look inside the book, first to see if it catches my
>>>> interest. Nope... that is second, First is to make sure that it has
>>>> large enough print that I can read it. Some of them have such small
>>>> print that my eyes have trouble.
>>>
>>> Get an e-reader. You can make the print pretty much as big as you want
>>> it. Your library probably has e-books you can borrow.
>>>
>>
>> I was looking at them online last night. I can get ebooks from the
>> library. I am curious about the rationale behind libraries only being
>> able to loan out a limited number of copies at a time.
>
>The libraries have a limited number of licences from the publishers.
>>
>> I don't have a problem with renewals now. Since materials sit in
>> quarantine for four days they are not fining people for late materials.
>> I expect that if you had an ebook on loan it would be deleted at the
>> end of the loan period.
>
>Yes, that's what happens.
>Incidentally, if you decide to get an e-reader, only KOBO can access
>Canadian public libraries.

Canada.

On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 09:20:24 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 10:46:48 AM UTC-5, Graham wrote:
>
>> Incidentally, if you decide to get an e-reader, only KOBO can access
>> Canadian public libraries.
>
> It might be worth investigating whether the Kobo app works as well.
> It's available on a number of platforms.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

Apparently, the Amazon Kindle e-reader works only with US libraries. That's
why I have a Kobo and that works with Canadian libraries, as I can attest.

On Fri, 01 Jan 2021 04:58:12 +1100, Master Bruce wrote:

> On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 08:46:42 -0700, Graham > wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 10:30:14 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>> On 2020-12-31 4:52 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 4:18:40 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>>> That looks like a lot of work, but it is a good idea. I confess that I
>>>>> like to have a look inside the book, first to see if it catches my
>>>>> interest. Nope... that is second, First is to make sure that it has
>>>>> large enough print that I can read it. Some of them have such small
>>>>> print that my eyes have trouble.
>>>>
>>>> Get an e-reader. You can make the print pretty much as big as you want
>>>> it. Your library probably has e-books you can borrow.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I was looking at them online last night. I can get ebooks from the
>>> library. I am curious about the rationale behind libraries only being
>>> able to loan out a limited number of copies at a time.
>>
>>The libraries have a limited number of licences from the publishers.
>>>
>>> I don't have a problem with renewals now. Since materials sit in
>>> quarantine for four days they are not fining people for late materials.
>>> I expect that if you had an ebook on loan it would be deleted at the
>>> end of the loan period.
>>
>>Yes, that's what happens.
>>Incidentally, if you decide to get an e-reader, only KOBO can access
>>Canadian public libraries.
>
> Canada.

Your point being?

On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 11:01:51 -0700, Graham > wrote:

>On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 09:20:24 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 10:46:48 AM UTC-5, Graham wrote:
>>
>>> Incidentally, if you decide to get an e-reader, only KOBO can access
>>> Canadian public libraries.
>>
>> It might be worth investigating whether the Kobo app works as well.
>> It's available on a number of platforms.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
>Apparently, the Amazon Kindle e-reader works only with US libraries. That's
>why I have a Kobo and that works with Canadian libraries, as I can attest.

Everything I buy or download, works on my Kindle.

On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 11:03:02 -0700, Graham > wrote:

>On Fri, 01 Jan 2021 04:58:12 +1100, Master Bruce wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 08:46:42 -0700, Graham > wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 10:30:14 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2020-12-31 4:52 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 4:18:40 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> That looks like a lot of work, but it is a good idea. I confess that I
>>>>>> like to have a look inside the book, first to see if it catches my
>>>>>> interest. Nope... that is second, First is to make sure that it has
>>>>>> large enough print that I can read it. Some of them have such small
>>>>>> print that my eyes have trouble.
>>>>>
>>>>> Get an e-reader. You can make the print pretty much as big as you want
>>>>> it. Your library probably has e-books you can borrow.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I was looking at them online last night. I can get ebooks from the
>>>> library. I am curious about the rationale behind libraries only being
>>>> able to loan out a limited number of copies at a time.
>>>
>>>The libraries have a limited number of licences from the publishers.
>>>>
>>>> I don't have a problem with renewals now. Since materials sit in
>>>> quarantine for four days they are not fining people for late materials.
>>>> I expect that if you had an ebook on loan it would be deleted at the
>>>> end of the loan period.
>>>
>>>Yes, that's what happens.
>>>Incidentally, if you decide to get an e-reader, only KOBO can access
>>>Canadian public libraries.
>>
>> Canada.
>
>Your point being?

Why use such a limited system?

On Fri, 01 Jan 2021 05:07:58 +1100, Master Bruce
> wrote:

>On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 11:03:02 -0700, Graham > wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 01 Jan 2021 04:58:12 +1100, Master Bruce wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 08:46:42 -0700, Graham > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 10:30:14 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2020-12-31 4:52 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 4:18:40 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> That looks like a lot of work, but it is a good idea. I confess that I
>>>>>>> like to have a look inside the book, first to see if it catches my
>>>>>>> interest. Nope... that is second, First is to make sure that it has
>>>>>>> large enough print that I can read it. Some of them have such small
>>>>>>> print that my eyes have trouble.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Get an e-reader. You can make the print pretty much as big as you want
>>>>>> it. Your library probably has e-books you can borrow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I was looking at them online last night. I can get ebooks from the
>>>>> library. I am curious about the rationale behind libraries only being
>>>>> able to loan out a limited number of copies at a time.
>>>>
>>>>The libraries have a limited number of licences from the publishers.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't have a problem with renewals now. Since materials sit in
>>>>> quarantine for four days they are not fining people for late materials.
>>>>> I expect that if you had an ebook on loan it would be deleted at the
>>>>> end of the loan period.
>>>>
>>>>Yes, that's what happens.
>>>>Incidentally, if you decide to get an e-reader, only KOBO can access
>>>>Canadian public libraries.
>>>
>>> Canada.
>>
>>Your point being?
>
>Why use such a limited system?

Ah, I know why!
"Kobo Inc., a Canadian company, a subsidiary of Japanese e-commerce
conglomerate Rakuten, that sells e-books and markets Kobo eReader
hardware and software "
(wiki)

writes:
>
>"tert in seattle" > wrote in message
...
>> writes:

>>>She has 'Great Expectations' [Dickens reference] when it comes to online
>>>dating. Comes across as desperate. I've known women and *men* who
>>>simply were incapable of being comfortable living alone. She appears to
>>>be one of them.
>>>
>>>The weird thing is she posts about how everyone has been ordered to stay
>>>home and not go shopping and can't find whatever food online. Yet she's
>>>meeting some guy in a parking lot to allegedly to go shopping for plants.
>>>
>>>Jill
>>
>> There is not an order to "not go shopping."
>>
>> https://www.kingcounty.gov/depts/hea...id-19/FAQ.aspx
>>
>> Item 24, "What should I be doing as an individual?"
>>
>> Public Health and the Governor's Office asks everyone to avoid all
>> non-essential contact with people you don't live with, regardless of
>> whether they are young and healthy or not.
>>
>> Stay at home as much as possible. What does it mean to stay home?
>>
>> Limit trips for groceries, gas and other essentials.
>>
>> If you must go out, stay at least 6 feet away from others at all times.
>>
>> Fewer, shorter and safer interactions are crucial.
>>
>> Wear a cloth face covering when you are at any indoor or outdoor
>> public space where you are within 6 feet of others.
>>
>> Continue to practice healthy hand hygiene, cough into sleeves, stay
>> home when sick, and disinfect high-touch surfaces both inside and
>> outside their home.
>>
>> Do not buy more than you need. Many are overstocking on products
>> that sick neighbors, healthcare providers, and emergency providers
>> need like hand sanitizer and disinfectant wipes. Leave some for
>> your neighbors!
>
>Right. I have been violating the "buy what you need" thing in some cases. If
>I see a good price, I'll stock up. And places I rarely go now,like Winco, I
>might buy a few extra of their brand since I know I won't be back for some
>time. Winco is rationing certain things though.

Okay, just to confirm, you agree that what I quoted from the King County
website is indeed the extent of restrictions for individuals. Because you
have been describing things in a way that sounds far more restrictive.

On 31/12/2020 18:01, Graham wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 09:20:24 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 10:46:48 AM UTC-5, Graham wrote:
>>
>>> Incidentally, if you decide to get an e-reader, only KOBO can access
>>> Canadian public libraries.
>>
>> It might be worth investigating whether the Kobo app works as well.
>> It's available on a number of platforms.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> Apparently, the Amazon Kindle e-reader works only with US libraries. That's
> why I have a Kobo and that works with Canadian libraries, as I can attest.
>
Amazon Kindles also work with Scottish libraries.

On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 1:01:57 PM UTC-5, Graham wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 09:20:24 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 10:46:48 AM UTC-5, Graham wrote:
> >
> >> Incidentally, if you decide to get an e-reader, only KOBO can access
> >> Canadian public libraries.
> >
> > It might be worth investigating whether the Kobo app works as well.
> > It's available on a number of platforms.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> Apparently, the Amazon Kindle e-reader works only with US libraries. That's
> why I have a Kobo and that works with Canadian libraries, as I can attest.

I was referring to generic tablet PCs like the iPad, the Samsung Galaxy, etc.
I'd never buy a dedicated e-reader when the app works just fine on a generic
tablet.

Provided, of course, the Kobo app works with Canadian libraries. (I have to
say, it's weird to me that all the libraries in Canada are the same. I'd never
expect that in the U.S.)

Cindy Hamilton

On Fri, 01 Jan 2021 05:14:24 +1100, Master Bruce wrote:

> On Fri, 01 Jan 2021 05:07:58 +1100, Master Bruce
> > wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 11:03:02 -0700, Graham > wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 01 Jan 2021 04:58:12 +1100, Master Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 08:46:42 -0700, Graham > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 10:30:14 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2020-12-31 4:52 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 4:18:40 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That looks like a lot of work, but it is a good idea. I confess that I
>>>>>>>> like to have a look inside the book, first to see if it catches my
>>>>>>>> interest. Nope... that is second, First is to make sure that it has
>>>>>>>> large enough print that I can read it. Some of them have such small
>>>>>>>> print that my eyes have trouble.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Get an e-reader. You can make the print pretty much as big as you want
>>>>>>> it. Your library probably has e-books you can borrow.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was looking at them online last night. I can get ebooks from the
>>>>>> library. I am curious about the rationale behind libraries only being
>>>>>> able to loan out a limited number of copies at a time.
>>>>>
>>>>>The libraries have a limited number of licences from the publishers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't have a problem with renewals now. Since materials sit in
>>>>>> quarantine for four days they are not fining people for late materials.
>>>>>> I expect that if you had an ebook on loan it would be deleted at the
>>>>>> end of the loan period.
>>>>>
>>>>>Yes, that's what happens.
>>>>>Incidentally, if you decide to get an e-reader, only KOBO can access
>>>>>Canadian public libraries.
>>>>
>>>> Canada.
>>>
>>>Your point being?
>>
>>Why use such a limited system?
>
> Ah, I know why!
> "Kobo Inc., a Canadian company, a subsidiary of Japanese e-commerce
> conglomerate Rakuten, that sells e-books and markets Kobo eReader
> hardware and software "
> (wiki)

Not only that but Kindle won't work for our libraries and it seems Amazon
has no intention to adapt the app.

On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 13:11:28 -0700, Graham > wrote:

>On Fri, 01 Jan 2021 05:14:24 +1100, Master Bruce wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 01 Jan 2021 05:07:58 +1100, Master Bruce
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 11:03:02 -0700, Graham > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 01 Jan 2021 04:58:12 +1100, Master Bruce wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 08:46:42 -0700, Graham > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 10:30:14 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2020-12-31 4:52 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 4:18:40 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That looks like a lot of work, but it is a good idea. I confess that I
>>>>>>>>> like to have a look inside the book, first to see if it catches my
>>>>>>>>> interest. Nope... that is second, First is to make sure that it has
>>>>>>>>> large enough print that I can read it. Some of them have such small
>>>>>>>>> print that my eyes have trouble.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Get an e-reader. You can make the print pretty much as big as you want
>>>>>>>> it. Your library probably has e-books you can borrow.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was looking at them online last night. I can get ebooks from the
>>>>>>> library. I am curious about the rationale behind libraries only being
>>>>>>> able to loan out a limited number of copies at a time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The libraries have a limited number of licences from the publishers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't have a problem with renewals now. Since materials sit in
>>>>>>> quarantine for four days they are not fining people for late materials.
>>>>>>> I expect that if you had an ebook on loan it would be deleted at the
>>>>>>> end of the loan period.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Yes, that's what happens.
>>>>>>Incidentally, if you decide to get an e-reader, only KOBO can access
>>>>>>Canadian public libraries.
>>>>>
>>>>> Canada.
>>>>
>>>>Your point being?
>>>
>>>Why use such a limited system?
>>
>> Ah, I know why!
>> "Kobo Inc., a Canadian company, a subsidiary of Japanese e-commerce
>> conglomerate Rakuten, that sells e-books and markets Kobo eReader
>> hardware and software "
>> (wiki)
>
>Not only that but Kindle won't work for our libraries and it seems Amazon
>has no intention to adapt the app.

Are they even allowed to? Isn't Kobo a proprietary, closed system?

On 12/30/2020 9:03 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> Julie comes across as terribly desperate.
>
> No I don't.

Yes, you do. **** off.

On 2020-12-31 1:01 p.m., Graham wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 09:20:24 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 10:46:48 AM UTC-5, Graham wrote:
>>
>>> Incidentally, if you decide to get an e-reader, only KOBO can access
>>> Canadian public libraries.
>>
>> It might be worth investigating whether the Kobo app works as well.
>> It's available on a number of platforms.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> Apparently, the Amazon Kindle e-reader works only with US libraries. That's
> why I have a Kobo and that works with Canadian libraries, as I can attest.
>


Makes perfect sense to me. You live in Canada and have access to
Canadian libraries, so getting the reader compatible with Canadian
libraries is the sensible thing to do. Thanks for letting me know. I
picked mine up this afternoon.

It has been an experience. I ordered it for curb side pick up at the
St.Catharines Best Buys . I got a notice about 30 minutes later than it
was ready for pick up. I followed the instructions on the email:

When you arrive:
Line up at the online order pickup counter.

For your safety, make sure there's 2 meters between you and the person
in front of you.

Have this email open and ready.


So when I got there I parked and went up to the store and was told to go
back to my car, move to the pick up parking area and follow the
instructions. I was having a hard time finding the app on the web site
and ended up asking one of the runners for help. He guided me trough
the process, but when there was a long delay in getting the auto reply
to register he said he would send someone out with it.


I got it home, charged it up, went through set up and then tried to
access the local library. I set up an account with the Ontario Library
Service which is needed to access the local library. Then when I went to
connect to the local library I kept getting messages that the server is
blocked.

I had to do a little research about the reason for that and either the
library authentication system is faulty or there is a problem with my
overdue books and unpaid fines. There aren't supposed to be late fines
these days. They are calculated automatically and are to be ignored.
So... now I have to wait until Monday to get this sorted out.
Fortunately I have several more books and a couple DVDs to get me
through the weekend. We are halfway through The White Queen series.

On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 18:57:37 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>Makes perfect sense to me. You live in Canada and have access to
>Canadian libraries, so getting the reader compatible with Canadian
>libraries is the sensible thing to do. Thanks for letting me know. I
>picked mine up this afternoon.
>
>It has been an experience. I ordered it for curb side pick up at the
>St.Catharines Best Buys . I got a notice about 30 minutes later than it
>was ready for pick up. I followed the instructions on the email:
>
>When you arrive:
>Line up at the online order pickup counter.
>
>For your safety, make sure there's 2 meters between you and the person
>in front of you.
>
>Have this email open and ready.
>
>
>So when I got there I parked and went up to the store and was told to go
>back to my car, move to the pick up parking area and follow the
>instructions. I was having a hard time finding the app on the web site
> and ended up asking one of the runners for help. He guided me trough
>the process, but when there was a long delay in getting the auto reply
>to register he said he would send someone out with it.
>
>
>I got it home, charged it up, went through set up and then tried to
>access the local library. I set up an account with the Ontario Library
>Service which is needed to access the local library. Then when I went to
>connect to the local library I kept getting messages that the server is
>blocked.
>
>I had to do a little research about the reason for that and either the
>library authentication system is faulty or there is a problem with my
>overdue books and unpaid fines. There aren't supposed to be late fines
>these days. They are calculated automatically and are to be ignored.
>So... now I have to wait until Monday to get this sorted out.
>Fortunately I have several more books and a couple DVDs to get me
>through the weekend. We are halfway through The White Queen series.

Well, I'm glad I don't have to use the Canadian library system and
this Kobo circus. I'm a free agent when it comes to ebooks!

Master Bruce wrote:
....
> The last time I was in town and in a supermarket, nobody was wearing a
> mask. Australia doesn't have much covid. That could change if the
> current outbreak in Sydney gets out of hand.

i hope it doesn't. i've seen too much of this crap already
and we got a few months to go yet before the vaccine really
starts getting generally available.


songbird

Master Bruce wrote:
....
> Tried any white asparagus yet?

no, no plans either, we buy it in season and most places don't
carry white asparagus here. not that i really look for it either.

my favorite way to eat the green kind is to eat it raw or just
heated through, but still very crunchy.


songbird

Leo wrote:

> On 2020 Dec 29, , cshenk wrote
> (in >):
>
> > French trinity or something like that? I seem to recall that's a
> > bit of how many recipes there go.
>
> I like it! That´s easier to say than mirror paw.

Snicker, yes.

Julie Bove wrote:

>
> "cshenk" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> >>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
> >
> > (snipped)
> >
> > > I know people here are going to make all sorts of things out of
> > > this. Nothing I can do about that. That's the way you are.
> >
> > Yes. Way too involved in trying to ferret out every detail of your
> > life. Me, I'm just happy you met someone interesting and are
> > enjoying it.
> >
> > I did look up a bunch of Dhal/Dal and other things using lentils. I
> > have to sort them a bit to post what seems most related to what you
> > may find useful.
>
> Thanks! He talked to Angela today, and cooked for us. All is good!

Thats good!

Julie Bove wrote:

>
> "cshenk" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> > >
> " > wrote in message
> > > ...
> >>> On Friday, December 25, 2020 at 8:50:29 PM UTC-5,
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > Yes, I will research this online.
> > > >
> >>> Etc.
> > > >
> >>> And I thought, "Cool! I know quite a bit about Tanzanian cuisine,
> >>> including home-cooking, street/fast, and restaurant food.
> Personal >>> experiences. I'll be happy to share what I know and I
> look forward >>> to a discussion about it!"
> > > >
> >>> But of course, this being RFC in 2020, the thread immediately took
> >>> a dive into the sewer and stayed there.
> > > >
> >>> Jesus F'ing Christ, people.
> > > >
> >>> -- Silvar Beitel
> > >
> > > I would appreciate the discussion. I know there used to be an
> > > African poster here. Carol? I think. Haven't seen a post from her
> > > in a while.
> >
> > I remember one too, but not the name of the person. Maybe it was
> > Silver?
>
> Chatty Cathy. I used to chat with her and Boli a lot. Boli convinced
> me to join Costco. Glad I did!

Ok!

On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 8:00:42 PM UTC-5, Master Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 18:57:37 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
> >Makes perfect sense to me. You live in Canada and have access to
> >Canadian libraries, so getting the reader compatible with Canadian
> >libraries is the sensible thing to do. Thanks for letting me know. I
> >picked mine up this afternoon.
> >
> >It has been an experience. I ordered it for curb side pick up at the
> >St.Catharines Best Buys . I got a notice about 30 minutes later than it
> >was ready for pick up. I followed the instructions on the email:
> >
> >When you arrive:
> >Line up at the online order pickup counter.
> >
> >For your safety, make sure there's 2 meters between you and the person
> >in front of you.
> >
> >Have this email open and ready.
> >
> >
> >So when I got there I parked and went up to the store and was told to go
> >back to my car, move to the pick up parking area and follow the
> >instructions. I was having a hard time finding the app on the web site
> > and ended up asking one of the runners for help. He guided me trough
> >the process, but when there was a long delay in getting the auto reply
> >to register he said he would send someone out with it.
> >
> >
> >I got it home, charged it up, went through set up and then tried to
> >access the local library. I set up an account with the Ontario Library
> >Service which is needed to access the local library. Then when I went to
> >connect to the local library I kept getting messages that the server is
> >blocked.
> >
> >I had to do a little research about the reason for that and either the
> >library authentication system is faulty or there is a problem with my
> >overdue books and unpaid fines. There aren't supposed to be late fines
> >these days. They are calculated automatically and are to be ignored.
> >So... now I have to wait until Monday to get this sorted out.
> >Fortunately I have several more books and a couple DVDs to get me
> >through the weekend. We are halfway through The White Queen series.
> Well, I'm glad I don't have to use the Canadian library system and
> this Kobo circus. I'm a free agent when it comes to ebooks!

Dave's not required to use the Canadian library system.

I poked around a bit and learned that if I want to download e-books from
my local library, they have an app that you install on your device. The books
are apparently in Epub format, so it's unclear to me what's unique about
the app. Perhaps it talks to their server in a way it understands.

Cindy Hamilton

On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 01:29:11 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 8:00:42 PM UTC-5, Master Bruce wrote:
>> >
>> >I had to do a little research about the reason for that and either the
>> >library authentication system is faulty or there is a problem with my
>> >overdue books and unpaid fines. There aren't supposed to be late fines
>> >these days. They are calculated automatically and are to be ignored.
>> >So... now I have to wait until Monday to get this sorted out.
>> >Fortunately I have several more books and a couple DVDs to get me
>> >through the weekend. We are halfway through The White Queen series.
>> Well, I'm glad I don't have to use the Canadian library system and
>> this Kobo circus. I'm a free agent when it comes to ebooks!
>
>Dave's not required to use the Canadian library system.
>
>I poked around a bit and learned that if I want to download e-books from
>my local library, they have an app that you install on your device. The books
>are apparently in Epub format, so it's unclear to me what's unique about
>the app. Perhaps it talks to their server in a way it understands.

Maybe the library app also looks after expiry dates.

Can a Kobo reader read epub? The last time I was looking for a new
e-reader a few years ago, Kobo was a no go, because it locked you in
to something you didn't want to be locked into.

On Friday, January 1, 2021 at 4:50:25 AM UTC-5, Master Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 01:29:11 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 8:00:42 PM UTC-5, Master Bruce wrote:
> >> >
> >> >I had to do a little research about the reason for that and either the
> >> >library authentication system is faulty or there is a problem with my
> >> >overdue books and unpaid fines. There aren't supposed to be late fines
> >> >these days. They are calculated automatically and are to be ignored.
> >> >So... now I have to wait until Monday to get this sorted out.
> >> >Fortunately I have several more books and a couple DVDs to get me
> >> >through the weekend. We are halfway through The White Queen series.
> >> Well, I'm glad I don't have to use the Canadian library system and
> >> this Kobo circus. I'm a free agent when it comes to ebooks!
> >
> >Dave's not required to use the Canadian library system.
> >
> >I poked around a bit and learned that if I want to download e-books from
> >my local library, they have an app that you install on your device. The books
> >are apparently in Epub format, so it's unclear to me what's unique about
> >the app. Perhaps it talks to their server in a way it understands.
> Maybe the library app also looks after expiry dates.
>
> Can a Kobo reader read epub? The last time I was looking for a new
> e-reader a few years ago, Kobo was a no go, because it locked you in
> to something you didn't want to be locked into.

Not a clue.

My first e-reader was a Nook, which locked me into buying books from
Barnes and Noble. I now have an iPad with the Nook and Kindle apps
on it, which I find satisfactory.

Cindy Hamilton

On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 02:00:47 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Friday, January 1, 2021 at 4:50:25 AM UTC-5, Master Bruce wrote:

>> Can a Kobo reader read epub? The last time I was looking for a new
>> e-reader a few years ago, Kobo was a no go, because it locked you in
>> to something you didn't want to be locked into.
>
>Not a clue.
>
>My first e-reader was a Nook, which locked me into buying books from
>Barnes and Noble. I now have an iPad with the Nook and Kindle apps
>on it, which I find satisfactory.

I don't know either. I download ebooks and sometimes I buy one. As
long as they're in epub format, my Kindle can handle them. And they
always are in epub format.

"cshenk" wrote in message
...

Julie Bove wrote:

>
> "cshenk" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> > >
> " > wrote in message
> > > ...
> >>> On Friday, December 25, 2020 at 8:50:29 PM UTC-5,
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > Yes, I will research this online.
> > > >
> >>> Etc.
> > > >
> >>> And I thought, "Cool! I know quite a bit about Tanzanian cuisine,
> >>> including home-cooking, street/fast, and restaurant food.
> Personal >>> experiences. I'll be happy to share what I know and I
> look forward >>> to a discussion about it!"
> > > >
> >>> But of course, this being RFC in 2020, the thread immediately took
> >>> a dive into the sewer and stayed there.
> > > >
> >>> Jesus F'ing Christ, people.
> > > >
> >>> -- Silvar Beitel
> > >
> > > I would appreciate the discussion. I know there used to be an
> > > African poster here. Carol? I think. Haven't seen a post from her
> > > in a while.
> >
> > I remember one too, but not the name of the person. Maybe it was
> > Silver?
>
> Chatty Cathy. I used to chat with her and Boli a lot. Boli convinced
> me to join Costco. Glad I did!

Ok!

====

Gosh. I remember Chatty Cathy and Boli! How long ago was that?

On 12/30/2020 4:18 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-12-30 3:43 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 2:14:21 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>> I don't know about other people, but I find it difficult to select books
>>> to read without being able to open them up and have a look. Now I have
>>> to go by author and hope for the best, or go for re-reads of previously
>>> enjoyed books.
>>
>> Before you select a library book, go to Amazon and see if you can
>> preview the book.
>>
>
>
> That looks like a lot of work, but it is a good idea.Â* I confess that I
> like to have a look inside the book, first to see if it catches my
> interest. Nope... that is second, First is to make sure that it has
> large enough print that I can read it. Some of them have such small
> print that my eyes have trouble.
>
> FWIW... I am watching Red Badge of Courage on TMC. That inspired me to
> go online and order the book from the library. Here I am 20 minutes
> later and the library just emailed me to know it is ready to be picked up.
>
Heck, if I'd known you wanted that book (Red Badge of Courage) I could
have mailed it to you. After my father died I found that book in his
bedside table.

Jill

On 12/31/2020 4:56 AM, songbird wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> ...
>> Get an e-reader. You can make the print pretty much as big as you want
>> it. Your library probably has e-books you can borrow.
>
> you don't need a special e-reader if you already have a
> desktop computer with an internet browser. i can read
> e-books fine that ways and bump up the font size all i
> want.
>
True.

> what i do not like about reading books on a desktop though
> is that you are stuck for that position for reading and while
> i can shift about it still ends up being uncomfortable. when
> i'm reading a regular book i move around from side to side or
> lay flat on my back.
>
>
> songbird
>
That too. Plus I like holding an actual book in my hands. I don't have
a generator so what happens when you can't charge your e-reader or don't
have a UPS for the computer? When the power went out for 4 days after
Hurricane Matthew I was very happy to have a bag full of actual books to
keep me occupied. (Fortunately, extended power outages around here are
rare.)

Jill

On 12/31/2020 6:19 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 4:56:37 AM UTC-5, songbird wrote:
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> ...
>>> Get an e-reader. You can make the print pretty much as big as you want
>>> it. Your library probably has e-books you can borrow.
>> you don't need a special e-reader if you already have a
>> desktop computer with an internet browser. i can read
>> e-books fine that ways and bump up the font size all i
>> want.
>>
>> what i do not like about reading books on a desktop though
>> is that you are stuck for that position for reading and while
>> i can shift about it still ends up being uncomfortable. when
>> i'm reading a regular book i move around from side to side or
>> lay flat on my back.
>
> Sure, if my house was the only place I wanted to read books, that
> might work. I can't see lugging my desktop PC to the doctor's waiting
> room to read while I wait.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
I bring a regular book with me to the doctor's office.

Jill

On 12/31/2020 12:34 PM, Master Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 10:53:22 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
>> Master Bruce wrote:
>>
>>> Not that I wear a mask myself, but Australia has little
>>> covid. So far.
>>
>> And hopefully, you'll do your part to keep that way by wearing a mask
>> whenever you go into public places. (just in case)
>
> The last time I was in town and in a supermarket, nobody was wearing a
> mask. Australia doesn't have much covid. That could change if the
> current outbreak in Sydney gets out of hand.
>
It's in your country. People should take all precautions before a
problem to help prevent one, rather than wait too late after it spreads
and becomes a problem.

On 12/31/2020 8:58 PM, songbird wrote:
> Master Bruce wrote:
> ...
>> The last time I was in town and in a supermarket, nobody was wearing a
>> mask. Australia doesn't have much covid. That could change if the
>> current outbreak in Sydney gets out of hand.
>
> i hope it doesn't. i've seen too much of this crap already
> and we got a few months to go yet before the vaccine really
> starts getting generally available.

Saw on the news just this morning that in some places, older people (age
65 and over) waiting in long lines, several hours, to get a vaccination.
Screw that.

I'll just wait until this initial rush slows down until you can get one
from a doctor or pharmacy with a short wait. I won't stand in a long
line and wait for any good sale or good vaccination.

On 12/30/2020 4:20 PM, Doris Night wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 23:17:17 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>
>> I don't know what you mean about someone else approving ingredients. I did
>> show him some of what I bought. Peri Peri and Piri Piri. He said those were
>> the wrong things and the correct term in Swahili is Pili Pili. A search
>> turned up a musical group. A couple of foods did show up as Peri Pweri.
>> Dunno.
>
> Both of these show up on the first page of Google search results:
>
> https://lowcarbafrica.com/pili-pili-sauce/
>
> https://13socialenterprise.com/products/pili-pili
>
> Doris
>
Problem is, she doesn't use Google.

Jill

On Friday, January 1, 2021 at 8:59:08 AM UTC-5, wrote:
> On 12/31/2020 4:56 AM, songbird wrote:
> > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > ...
> >> Get an e-reader. You can make the print pretty much as big as you want
> >> it. Your library probably has e-books you can borrow.
> >
> > you don't need a special e-reader if you already have a
> > desktop computer with an internet browser. i can read
> > e-books fine that ways and bump up the font size all i
> > want.
> >
> True.
>
> > what i do not like about reading books on a desktop though
> > is that you are stuck for that position for reading and while
> > i can shift about it still ends up being uncomfortable. when
> > i'm reading a regular book i move around from side to side or
> > lay flat on my back.
> >
> >
> > songbird
> >
> That too. Plus I like holding an actual book in my hands. I don't have
> a generator so what happens when you can't charge your e-reader or don't
> have a UPS for the computer?

You could charge anything off your car battery.

> When the power went out for 4 days after
> Hurricane Matthew I was very happy to have a bag full of actual books to
> keep me occupied. (Fortunately, extended power outages around here are
> rare.)

You don't need to entirely give up paper books. I've been using an e-reader
for most of a decade, and I still have a bookcase full of books. Some of
them are just not available in e-book form.

Cindy Hamilton

On Friday, January 1, 2021 at 9:00:01 AM UTC-5, wrote:
> On 12/31/2020 6:19 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 4:56:37 AM UTC-5, songbird wrote:
> >> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> ...
> >>> Get an e-reader. You can make the print pretty much as big as you want
> >>> it. Your library probably has e-books you can borrow.
> >> you don't need a special e-reader if you already have a
> >> desktop computer with an internet browser. i can read
> >> e-books fine that ways and bump up the font size all i
> >> want.
> >>
> >> what i do not like about reading books on a desktop though
> >> is that you are stuck for that position for reading and while
> >> i can shift about it still ends up being uncomfortable. when
> >> i'm reading a regular book i move around from side to side or
> >> lay flat on my back.
> >
> > Sure, if my house was the only place I wanted to read books, that
> > might work. I can't see lugging my desktop PC to the doctor's waiting
> > room to read while I wait.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> I bring a regular book with me to the doctor's office.

Of course you do. I bring a hundred books and the entire Internet
to my doctor's office.

Cindy Hamilton