On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 18:49:20 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:

>Coming back to this one. Maise flour and corn flour are the same for
>us. In some of Europe, it may differ. Canada just calls it a
>different name it seems but it's actually the same. From the looks of
>the Ugali, it is the fine flour used to make it.
>
>The cornmeal I meantioned seems to be the wrong product. I was too
>generic there. The right one seems to be the one you got.
>
>In Germany and other parts, 'Maise Flour' can mean Rye and others.

Mais (German) and maïs (Dutch) mean corn.

Julie Bove wrote:

>
> "cshenk" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> > > On 2020-12-28 12:17 a.m., Julie Bove wrote:
> > > >
> >>>"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> >>> > On Sat, 26 Dec 2020 20:16:40 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > > some kind of cooked greens or a salad that's very similar to
> >>> > > Pico De Gallo.
> >>> >
> >>> > Say WHAT!?!?
> >>> >
> >>> > You have the worst Google on earth.
> > > >
> >>> I don't use Google. Let me see if I can find the link. Yep.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Is that how you can remain willfully ignorant?
> >
> > There are other search engines. We 'call it google' but he might be
> > using any of several other search engines.
> >
> > Don't be silly Steve, she's posting links.
>
> I normally use either Swagbucks or DuckDuckGo.

DuckDuckGo is getting a lot of local ads lately here.

On 2020-12-30 7:59 p.m., Bryan Simmons wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 6:35:20 PM UTC-6, Mike Duffy wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 15:46:15 -0800, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>>
>>> It's not personal.
>>
>> So why pick on her so vociferously?
>>
>> By all accounts, she is taking the sheltering & mask-wearing more
>> seriously than the general populace, and I cannot recall anything she
>> said against you to merit the level of venom you spit at her.
>>
>> Are you piling on to get brownie points with her other antagonists?
>
> Brownie points? That's laughable. I'm probably the one person Julie never
> replies to.
>

What is equally laughable was that she used to reply to me when she
claimed to have blocked me.

On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 21:04:32 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2020-12-30 7:59 p.m., Bryan Simmons wrote:
>> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 6:35:20 PM UTC-6, Mike Duffy wrote:
>>> On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 15:46:15 -0800, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's not personal.
>>>
>>> So why pick on her so vociferously?
>>>
>>> By all accounts, she is taking the sheltering & mask-wearing more
>>> seriously than the general populace, and I cannot recall anything she
>>> said against you to merit the level of venom you spit at her.
>>>
>>> Are you piling on to get brownie points with her other antagonists?
>>
>> Brownie points? That's laughable. I'm probably the one person Julie never
>> replies to.
>>
>
>What is equally laughable was that she used to reply to me when she
>claimed to have blocked me.

Even a post by Bryan about Julie is really about Dave Smith.

Bryan Simmons wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 1:57:03 PM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 10:37:50 -0500, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>> On 12/30/2020 4:37 AM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 7:40:11 PM UTC-6, Graham wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 16:27:51 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> No wonder you laugh at stupid Americans. So many of us are.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is why I always defended Trump for not warning everyone to wear masks
>>>>>>> and stay home every chance you get. Not fair to blame him for the many
>>>>>>> deaths in this country. Even if he had done that...still so many idiots
>>>>>>> would have ignored the warnings just like they do now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In a fair world, it's the idiots that ignore the warnings that should be
>>>>>>> the ones that die, not the "collateral damage" that they cause by
>>>>>>> spreading the virus.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right. Personally I don't think the masks do a damned bit of good. One of my
>>>>>> Drs. said he found that people were wearing worn out ones with holes or even
>>>>>> poking holes in them so they could breathe better. I do wear them though.
>>>>>> Not going to risk being punched or shot at.
>>>>> GAWD! You really are incredibly stupid!!!! You really are QAninny fodder!
>>>>
>>>> A few years ago, around this time of year, a worthless piece of shit ceased to exist.
>>>> It would be lovely if Julie followed Andy. Imagine her dying alone in an ICU. Maybe
>>>> one of the misfits she consorts with will kill her. Maybe the turdlet will kill her.
>>>> Maybe the ex-husband will kill her. With her myriad health problems, she's a good
>>>> candidate for death if she gets the virus.
>>>>
>>>> --Bryan
>>>>
>>> That's low, even for you.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> I pray that Julie gets to squat and pee on Bryan's grave.
>
> I'd wish that she'd squat and take a dump on your face while you're still alive,
> but you'd probably enjoy it.
>
> --Bryan
>

Still, I'd pay to watch it.

"GM" > wrote in message
...
>, wrote:
>> "Janet" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > In article >,
>> > says...
>> >> >> New guy made promises to me at the start and so far has kept all of
>> >> >> them.
>> >> >>
>> >> > Promises? What kind of promises? It would never occur to me to ask
>> >> > for
>> >> > promises at the start of a new relationship. I would, however, ask
>> >> > the
>> >> > guy what kind of food he likes to eat.
>> >>
>> >> I didn't ask for anything. Our first date was 3.5 hours long and was
>> >> all
>> >> talking. Food did not come up except for my mentioning that I was
>> >> stopping
>> >> at Taco Time on the way home. We mostly talked about what we wanted in
>> >> a
>> >> relationship.
>> >
>> > "what I want from a relationship" does not amount to " a promise "
>> >
>> > Julie, you always pick wronguns. Men who treat you like their
>> > kitchen skivvy, a doormat to wipe their feet on.
>> >
>> >> Really, what we talked about was between the two of us.
>> >
>> > Yet here you are again, blabbing his private life to all. Same old .
>> Not really. We had a 3.5 hour talk. Do you think I'm going to post all of
>> that here? Don't worry. I won't be here much longer. Who will you pick on
>> then?
>
>
> If you aren't careful you'll end up getting all pregnant...

Not likely.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/30/2020 6:00 AM, Janet wrote:
>> In article >, says...
>>>>> New guy made promises to me at the start and so far has kept all of
>>>>> them.
>>>>>
>>>> Promises? What kind of promises? It would never occur to me to ask
>>>> for
>>>> promises at the start of a new relationship. I would, however, ask the
>>>> guy what kind of food he likes to eat.
>>>
>>> I didn't ask for anything. Our first date was 3.5 hours long and was all
>>> talking. Food did not come up except for my mentioning that I was
>>> stopping
>>> at Taco Time on the way home. We mostly talked about what we wanted in a
>>> relationship.
>>
>> "what I want from a relationship" does not amount to " a promise "
>>
>> Julie, you always pick wronguns. Men who treat you like their
>> kitchen skivvy, a doormat to wipe their feet on.
>>
> IMHO, she tries to entice men via the old adage "the way to a man's heart
> is through his stomach" yet she doesn't bother to ask about what HIM he
> likes to eat.
>
>>> Really, what we talked about was between the two of us.
>>
>> Yet here you are again, blabbing his private life to all. Same old .
>>
>>
>> Janet UK
>>
> Modus operandi. She wanted to announce she has a "new guy" from Tanzania.
> She met him online and he works three jobs and had to drop by her house to
> use her microwave to reheat some crappy food a restaurant gave him. Sure
> sounds like a winner. <snork>

No. I wanted to cook him a meal, but as it turned out, he cooked for Justin
and me.

"Sheldon Martin" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 23:17:17 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>>> On 12/29/2020 8:00 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On 12/27/2020 5:13 PM, wrote:
>>>>>> On Friday, December 25, 2020 at 8:50:29 PM UTC-5,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Yes, I will research this online.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And I thought, "Cool! I know quite a bit about Tanzanian cuisine,
>>>>>> including home-cooking, street/fast, and restaurant food. Personal
>>>>>> experiences. I'll be happy to share what I know and I look forward to
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> discussion about it!"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But of course, this being RFC in 2020, the thread immediately took a
>>>>>> dive into the sewer and stayed there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jesus F'ing Christ, people.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Please do tell her about it, Silvar.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would love to see some of those Tanzania recipes. The only African
>>>>> food I've had was some really nice homemade Ethoipian Injera bread
>>>>> with
>>>>> a nicely spiced lamb and vegetable stew. Delicious!
>>>>>
>>>>> Julie is trying to impress someonw she barely knows. Her last
>>>>> "boyfriend" was allergic to cats. This is a new guy. Gotta wonder
>>>>> where
>>>>> she's finding them during a pandemic lockdown.
>>>>
>>>> I found who I refer to as "The Three Amigos" on the Facebook dating
>>>> app.
>>>> D. found me on Plenty Of Fish. I reactivated my account because I was
>>>> bored and thought I'd find someone to talk to. I did. A guy whose dad
>>>> worked with my dad. I found him to be boring though. Then D. contacted
>>>> me. We met the next day in a parking lot. Again, because so few places
>>>> were open. We hit it off right away. Lots of stuff in common. He has
>>>> two
>>>> cats. Great personality. Makes me laugh. I make him laugh. Couldn't be
>>>> better.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, there is a pandemic but... People who are married or live with
>>>> their
>>>> BF/GF can see their other half every day. Kind of un fair to the rest
>>>> of
>>>> us who are supposed to stay home and see no one. I got sick of it.
>>>> People
>>>> aren't meant to be hermits.
>>>
>>> Some of us are comfortable enough to not need constant company. I talk
>>> with my SO on the phone at least once a day. I enjoy solice in reading
>>> and having my cat curl up next to me while I do so. I enjoy watching
>>> and
>>> feeding birds. I take surveys. I watch silly movies on TV. I cook
>>> whatever I want to when I feel like and don't need to have someone else
>>> there to approve the ingredients.
>>
>>I don't need constant company but aside from Justin, I haven't much of
>>anyone during the pandemic. Saw one friend one time, just to take her a
>>book. Saw my mom twice, for about two minutes each time. My brother once,
>>his wife twice. And the various BFs a few times. Saw Angela more than
>>anyone, but didn't even see her once a week. You might not be a social
>>person. I am. I like seeing people. I can't stand watchint TV or movies.
>>There is nothing more mind numbing. I do read. I read very fast so buying
>>books is expensive!
>
> I enjoy reading but I rarely buy novels, that's why I have a library
> card... I've had a library card since I was three years old. Library
> cards are free and if the local library doesn't have a particular book
> they will get it for you and notify you when it's in. I have a
> collection of cookbooks but mostly How To and Historical, I don't need
> recipes.

I like true stories, the history of clothing, food, etc. Am trying to read a
novel now. Can't get into it. It was a mail order purchase. I need oversized
print books now and I try to buy them at a reasonable price.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/30/2020 11:43 AM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
>> On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 23:17:17 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 12/29/2020 8:00 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On 12/27/2020 5:13 PM, wrote:
>>>>>>> On Friday, December 25, 2020 at 8:50:29 PM UTC-5,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Yes, I will research this online.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And I thought, "Cool! I know quite a bit about Tanzanian cuisine,
>>>>>>> including home-cooking, street/fast, and restaurant food. Personal
>>>>>>> experiences. I'll be happy to share what I know and I look forward
>>>>>>> to a
>>>>>>> discussion about it!"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But of course, this being RFC in 2020, the thread immediately took a
>>>>>>> dive into the sewer and stayed there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jesus F'ing Christ, people.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please do tell her about it, Silvar.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would love to see some of those Tanzania recipes. The only African
>>>>>> food I've had was some really nice homemade Ethoipian Injera bread
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> a nicely spiced lamb and vegetable stew. Delicious!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Julie is trying to impress someonw she barely knows. Her last
>>>>>> "boyfriend" was allergic to cats. This is a new guy. Gotta wonder
>>>>>> where
>>>>>> she's finding them during a pandemic lockdown.
>>>>>
>>>>> I found who I refer to as "The Three Amigos" on the Facebook dating
>>>>> app.
>>>>> D. found me on Plenty Of Fish. I reactivated my account because I was
>>>>> bored and thought I'd find someone to talk to. I did. A guy whose dad
>>>>> worked with my dad. I found him to be boring though. Then D. contacted
>>>>> me. We met the next day in a parking lot. Again, because so few places
>>>>> were open. We hit it off right away. Lots of stuff in common. He has
>>>>> two
>>>>> cats. Great personality. Makes me laugh. I make him laugh. Couldn't be
>>>>> better.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, there is a pandemic but... People who are married or live with
>>>>> their
>>>>> BF/GF can see their other half every day. Kind of un fair to the rest
>>>>> of
>>>>> us who are supposed to stay home and see no one. I got sick of it.
>>>>> People
>>>>> aren't meant to be hermits.
>>>>
>>>> Some of us are comfortable enough to not need constant company. I talk
>>>> with my SO on the phone at least once a day. I enjoy solice in reading
>>>> and having my cat curl up next to me while I do so. I enjoy watching
>>>> and
>>>> feeding birds. I take surveys. I watch silly movies on TV. I cook
>>>> whatever I want to when I feel like and don't need to have someone else
>>>> there to approve the ingredients.
>>>
>>> I don't need constant company but aside from Justin, I haven't much of
>>> anyone during the pandemic. Saw one friend one time, just to take her a
>>> book. Saw my mom twice, for about two minutes each time. My brother
>>> once,
>>> his wife twice. And the various BFs a few times. Saw Angela more than
>>> anyone, but didn't even see her once a week. You might not be a social
>>> person. I am. I like seeing people. I can't stand watchint TV or movies.
>>> There is nothing more mind numbing. I do read. I read very fast so
>>> buying
>>> books is expensive!
>>
>> I enjoy reading but I rarely buy novels, that's why I have a library
>> card... I've had a library card since I was three years old. Library
>> cards are free and if the local library doesn't have a particular book
>> they will get it for you and notify you when it's in. I have a
>> collection of cookbooks but mostly How To and Historical, I don't need
>> recipes.
>>
> To be fair, most public libraries have been shut down in 2020 due to
> Covid-19. I don't have to buy books. There is a library on Dataw called
> 'The Cannery'. Residents donate books and have been doing so for decades.
> I always have five or six books waiting to be read. And yes, I read very
> quickly. The type of books I read vary from historical to biographies to
> fiction and murder mysteries. I'm never bored. I sure as heck don't have
> to go online looking for some guy to make me feel complete. Julie comes
> across as terribly desperate.

No I don't. That's funny! I don't *need* a guy to make me feel complete. I
*am* complete.

"Master Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 12:14:31 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>>To be fair, most public libraries have been shut down in 2020 due to
>>Covid-19. I don't have to buy books. There is a library on Dataw
>>called 'The Cannery'. Residents donate books and have been doing so for
>>decades. I always have five or six books waiting to be read. And yes,
>>I read very quickly. The type of books I read vary from historical to
>>biographies to fiction and murder mysteries. I'm never bored. I sure
>>as heck don't have to go online looking for some guy to make me feel
>>complete. Julie comes across as terribly desperate.
>
> Ooh, there's that green eyed monster again!

Apparently so.

"Sheldon Martin" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 17:01:54 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>>> On 12/28/2020 12:44 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> " > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Friday, December 25, 2020 at 8:50:29 PM UTC-5,
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Yes, I will research this online.
>>>>>
>>>>> Etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> And I thought, "Cool! I know quite a bit about Tanzanian cuisine,
>>>>> including home-cooking, street/fast, and restaurant food. Personal
>>>>> experiences. I'll be happy to share what I know and I look forward to
>>>>> a
>>>>> discussion about it!"
>>>>>
>>>>> But of course, this being RFC in 2020, the thread immediately took a
>>>>> dive into the sewer and stayed there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jesus F'ing Christ, people.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Silvar Beitel
>>>>
>>>> I would appreciate the discussion. I know there used to be an African
>>>> poster here. Carol? I think. Haven't seen a post from her in a while.
>>>
>>> Are you thinking of Chatty Cathy? The woman who participated in chat
>>> and
>>> used to post fun RFC survey questions here? She wasn't "African".
>>
>>Ah yes! I thought she lived in Africa.
>
> She does, in South Africa, with her husband, children, pets, and
> livestock. I don't know if she's an African citizen, although she may
> well be.

She would likely know of their cuisine though.

"Gary" > wrote in message
...
> jmcquown wrote
> :
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>> New guy made promises to me at the start and so far has kept all of
>>> them.
>
>> Promises? What kind of promises? It would never occur to me to ask for
>> promises at the start of a new relationship.
>
> I was about to ask the same question.

In relation to our relationship. In a nutshell, if he says he will do
something, he does it. There's more to it but that's really all you need to
know.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/30/2020 12:15 PM, Gary wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote
>> :
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> New guy made promises to me at the start and so far has kept all of
>>>> them.
>>
>>> Promises? What kind of promises? It would never occur to me to ask for
>>> promises at the start of a new relationship.
>>
>> I was about to ask the same question.
>>
>>
>>
> She has 'Great Expectations' [Dickens reference] when it comes to online
> dating. Comes across as desperate. I've known women and *men* who simply
> were incapable of being comfortable living alone. She appears to be one
> of them.

Oh bull pucky. I'm still living alone, excvept for Justin who isn't here all
that often. He has his life, I have mine. D. came over, made dinner for all
of us and left.

I've lived alone for very many years. But... I like to get out and socialize
and that can't be done right now. Normally I'd get together with a bunch of
friends about once a month but pre-Covid, we got down to 2-3 times a year.
Many moved far away and som died. But there still are a couple that I would
go to lunch with. Can't do that now.
>
> The weird thing is she posts about how everyone has been ordered to stay
> home and not go shopping and can't find whatever food online. Yet she's
> meeting some guy in a parking lot to allegedly to go shopping for plants.

Yeah. Like I said. I'm sick of it. The mandates aren't working. I did do as
told while most of the people around me did not. My mom is forced to. She's
only allowed out if she has a medical problem.

"tert in seattle" > wrote in message
...
> writes:
>>On 12/30/2020 12:15 PM, Gary wrote:
>>> jmcquown wrote
>>> :
>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>> New guy made promises to me at the start and so far has kept all of
>>>>> them.
>>>
>>>> Promises?A What kind of promises?A It would never occur to me to ask
>>>> for
>>>> promises at the start of a new relationship.
>>>
>>> I was about to ask the same question.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>She has 'Great Expectations' [Dickens reference] when it comes to online
>>dating. Comes across as desperate. I've known women and *men* who
>>simply were incapable of being comfortable living alone. She appears to
>>be one of them.
>>
>>The weird thing is she posts about how everyone has been ordered to stay
>>home and not go shopping and can't find whatever food online. Yet she's
>>meeting some guy in a parking lot to allegedly to go shopping for plants.
>>
>>Jill
>
> There is not an order to "not go shopping."
>
> https://www.kingcounty.gov/depts/hea...id-19/FAQ.aspx
>
> Item 24, "What should I be doing as an individual?"
>
> Public Health and the Governor's Office asks everyone to avoid all
> non-essential contact with people you don't live with, regardless of
> whether they are young and healthy or not.
>
> Stay at home as much as possible. What does it mean to stay home?
>
> Limit trips for groceries, gas and other essentials.
>
> If you must go out, stay at least 6 feet away from others at all times.
>
> Fewer, shorter and safer interactions are crucial.
>
> Wear a cloth face covering when you are at any indoor or outdoor
> public space where you are within 6 feet of others.
>
> Continue to practice healthy hand hygiene, cough into sleeves, stay
> home when sick, and disinfect high-touch surfaces both inside and
> outside their home.
>
> Do not buy more than you need. Many are overstocking on products
> that sick neighbors, healthcare providers, and emergency providers
> need like hand sanitizer and disinfectant wipes. Leave some for
> your neighbors!

Right. I have been violating the "buy what you need" thing in some cases. If
I see a good price, I'll stock up. And places I rarely go now,like Winco, I
might buy a few extra of their brand since I know I won't be back for some
time. Winco is rationing certain things though.

"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>
>>
>> "cshenk" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Julie Bove wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> >>"cshenk" > wrote in message
>> > > ...
>> >>> Sqwertz wrote:
>> > > >
>> >>> > On Sat, 26 Dec 2020 20:16:40 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>>>> some kind of cooked greens or a salad that's very similar to
>> >>>>> Pico De Gallo.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Say WHAT!?!?
>> >>> >
>> >>> > You have the worst Google on earth.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > -sw
>> > > >
>> >>> No, actually I saw that too. Both are served with Ugali, which I
>> >>> referenced as the cornmeal sort of mush made to a ball.
>> > >
>> > > Yes. I did order the flour for the Ugali. The greens are usually
>> > > Kale or Collard but sometimes Spinach.
>> >
>> > I saw. If you were here, I could have pointed you to 3 places that
>> > have the right flour at a good price. We have a big hispanic
>> > element and no, few are actually from Mexico (but some are).
>> >
>> > <referring to Steve below>
>> >>> Did you even try looking up foods from there or are you just
>> >>> assuming?
>> > >
>> > > He must be assuming.
>> >
>> > I'd say so. I think he's not used to you googling as it's not
>> > mentioned often but obviously you do like everone else.
>> >
>> >
>> > > I didn't find a lot of stuff online for this. But I was mainly
>> > > trying to figure out what source of heat he might want when he
>> > > said he wanted to add heat to the dish. I didn't even realize
>> > > that I had the chile/garlic sauce when he asked. I don't remember
>> > > buying it. I do have asst. Mexican type salsas but the food he
>> > > had came from an Asian/Indian fusion type place some I don't
>> > > think that would have worked.
>> >
>> > It is a different 'heat' yes. Most of my peeks didn't lead to
>> > 'bland' when you combined to a meal. It seemed there was always
>> > something that was fairly 'hot' in the mix.
>> >
>> > Did you catch much on lentils in your looks? I saw a few so that
>> > might be wortch looking into since often handy at your place. They
>> > cook quick.
>>
>> I saw bweans but not lentils. I would assume the Dal type of lentils
>> might be eaten. I have only done maybe an hour of research. I will
>> look more later.
>> >
>> > Want me to pass some possibles there? I'm looking up recipes close
>> > to that anyways for me so it's just saving a link of any that might
>> > be of interest.
>>
>> Thanks! My flour arrived today. My friend in Canada said it is Maize
>> flour and not corn. I always assumed that maize and corn were the
>> same. He said they are not. He's my biggest cooking expert but he's
>> not familiar with this type of food.
>
> Coming back to this one. Maise flour and corn flour are the same for
> us. In some of Europe, it may differ. Canada just calls it a
> different name it seems but it's actually the same. From the looks of
> the Ugali, it is the fine flour used to make it.
>
> The cornmeal I meantioned seems to be the wrong product. I was too
> generic there. The right one seems to be the one you got.
>
> In Germany and other parts, 'Maise Flour' can mean Rye and others.

I bought the right one. He told me I can get it at the Super Walmart for
cheaper. Might even be able to get it there online.

"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>
> (snipped)
>
>> I know people here are going to make all sorts of things out of this.
>> Nothing I can do about that. That's the way you are.
>
> Yes. Way too involved in trying to ferret out every detail of your
> life. Me, I'm just happy you met someone interesting and are enjoying
> it.
>
> I did look up a bunch of Dhal/Dal and other things using lentils. I
> have to sort them a bit to post what seems most related to what you may
> find useful.

Thanks! He talked to Angela today, and cooked for us. All is good!

"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>
>>
>> " > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Friday, December 25, 2020 at 8:50:29 PM UTC-5,
>> > wrote:
>> > > Yes, I will research this online.
>> >
>> > Etc.
>> >
>> > And I thought, "Cool! I know quite a bit about Tanzanian cuisine,
>> > including home-cooking, street/fast, and restaurant food. Personal
>> > experiences. I'll be happy to share what I know and I look forward
>> > to a discussion about it!"
>> >
>> > But of course, this being RFC in 2020, the thread immediately took
>> > a dive into the sewer and stayed there.
>> >
>> > Jesus F'ing Christ, people.
>> >
>> > -- Silvar Beitel
>>
>> I would appreciate the discussion. I know there used to be an African
>> poster here. Carol? I think. Haven't seen a post from her in a while.
>
> I remember one too, but not the name of the person. Maybe it was
> Silver?

Chatty Cathy. I used to chat with her and Boli a lot. Boli convinced me to
join Costco. Glad I did!

"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>
>>
>> "cshenk" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Dave Smith wrote:
>> >
>> > > On 2020-12-28 12:17 a.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>> > > >
>> >>>"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> > > ...
>> >>> > On Sat, 26 Dec 2020 20:16:40 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > > some kind of cooked greens or a salad that's very similar to
>> >>> > > Pico De Gallo.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Say WHAT!?!?
>> >>> >
>> >>> > You have the worst Google on earth.
>> > > >
>> >>> I don't use Google. Let me see if I can find the link. Yep.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Is that how you can remain willfully ignorant?
>> >
>> > There are other search engines. We 'call it google' but he might be
>> > using any of several other search engines.
>> >
>> > Don't be silly Steve, she's posting links.
>>
>> I normally use either Swagbucks or DuckDuckGo.
>
> DuckDuckGo is getting a lot of local ads lately here.

They don't track you.

On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 4:18:40 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-12-30 3:43 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 2:14:21 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> >> I don't know about other people, but I find it difficult to select books
> >> to read without being able to open them up and have a look. Now I have
> >> to go by author and hope for the best, or go for re-reads of previously
> >> enjoyed books.
> >
> > Before you select a library book, go to Amazon and see if you can
> > preview the book.
> >
> That looks like a lot of work, but it is a good idea. I confess that I
> like to have a look inside the book, first to see if it catches my
> interest. Nope... that is second, First is to make sure that it has
> large enough print that I can read it. Some of them have such small
> print that my eyes have trouble.

Get an e-reader. You can make the print pretty much as big as you want
it. Your library probably has e-books you can borrow.

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
....
> Get an e-reader. You can make the print pretty much as big as you want
> it. Your library probably has e-books you can borrow.

you don't need a special e-reader if you already have a
desktop computer with an internet browser. i can read
e-books fine that ways and bump up the font size all i
want.

what i do not like about reading books on a desktop though
is that you are stuck for that position for reading and while
i can shift about it still ends up being uncomfortable. when
i'm reading a regular book i move around from side to side or
lay flat on my back.


songbird

On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 01:52:15 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 4:18:40 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2020-12-30 3:43 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 2:14:21 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> >> I don't know about other people, but I find it difficult to select books
>> >> to read without being able to open them up and have a look. Now I have
>> >> to go by author and hope for the best, or go for re-reads of previously
>> >> enjoyed books.
>> >
>> > Before you select a library book, go to Amazon and see if you can
>> > preview the book.
>> >
>> That looks like a lot of work, but it is a good idea. I confess that I
>> like to have a look inside the book, first to see if it catches my
>> interest. Nope... that is second, First is to make sure that it has
>> large enough print that I can read it. Some of them have such small
>> print that my eyes have trouble.
>
>Get an e-reader. You can make the print pretty much as big as you want
>it. Your library probably has e-books you can borrow.

Don't they have glasses in Canada? Can't he cross your border and get
a pair when you have the pandemic under control in 2150?

On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 04:56:10 -0500, songbird >
wrote:

>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>...
>> Get an e-reader. You can make the print pretty much as big as you want
>> it. Your library probably has e-books you can borrow.
>
>you don't need a special e-reader if you already have a
>desktop computer with an internet browser. i can read
>e-books fine that ways and bump up the font size all i
>want.

So you don't need an e-reader.

>what i do not like about reading books on a desktop though
>is that you are stuck for that position for reading and while
>i can shift about it still ends up being uncomfortable. when
>i'm reading a regular book i move around from side to side or
>lay flat on my back.

So you DO need an e-reader. Amazing the thought process that can occur
during one post!

On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 4:56:37 AM UTC-5, songbird wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> ...
> > Get an e-reader. You can make the print pretty much as big as you want
> > it. Your library probably has e-books you can borrow.
> you don't need a special e-reader if you already have a
> desktop computer with an internet browser. i can read
> e-books fine that ways and bump up the font size all i
> want.
>
> what i do not like about reading books on a desktop though
> is that you are stuck for that position for reading and while
> i can shift about it still ends up being uncomfortable. when
> i'm reading a regular book i move around from side to side or
> lay flat on my back.

Sure, if my house was the only place I wanted to read books, that
might work. I can't see lugging my desktop PC to the doctor's waiting
room to read while I wait.

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
....
> Sure, if my house was the only place I wanted to read books, that
> might work. I can't see lugging my desktop PC to the doctor's waiting
> room to read while I wait.

these days i don't wait anyplace if i can help it. normally
i would bring an actual paper book. i have several here at
all times that i can read.


songbird

Master Bruce wrote:
....
> So you DO need an e-reader. Amazing the thought process that can occur
> during one post!

don't strain yourself.


songbird

On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 7:19:51 AM UTC-5, songbird wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> ...
> > Sure, if my house was the only place I wanted to read books, that
> > might work. I can't see lugging my desktop PC to the doctor's waiting
> > room to read while I wait.
> these days i don't wait anyplace if i can help it. normally
> i would bring an actual paper book. i have several here at
> all times that i can read.

I spend a fair amount of time in the car waiting while my husband
has appointments. My tablet computer has hundreds of books on
it, most importantly the one I'm currently reading.

Cindy Hamilton

In article >,
says...
>
> On 12/30/2020 12:15 PM, Gary wrote:
> > jmcquown wrote
> > :
> >> Julie Bove wrote:
> >>> New guy made promises to me at the start and so far has kept all of
> >>> them.
> >
> >> Promises?* What kind of promises?* It would never occur to me to ask for
> >> promises at the start of a new relationship.
> >
> > I was about to ask the same question.
> >
> >
> >
> She has 'Great Expectations' [Dickens reference] when it comes to online
> dating. Comes across as desperate. I've known women and *men* who
> simply were incapable of being comfortable living alone. She appears to
> be one of them.
>
> The weird thing is she posts about how everyone has been ordered to stay
> home and not go shopping and can't find whatever food online. Yet she's
> meeting some guy in a parking lot to allegedly to go shopping for plants.
>
> Jill

and today, she's been out shopping, not alone, WITH her daughter (and
therefore, everyone Angela has been in contact with the last week) plus
she sees Mr Tanzania every day (after he's done deliveries all round the
neighbourhood). Mr T himself is in a high-risk ethnic group.

Julie, (who has, so she claims, had more illness than the entire rfc
group), has drawn the false conclusion that multiple allergies,
sensitivities and hospital admissions is the proof she has an excellent
immune system.

It's exactly the opposite, Julie. By age, weight, medical history,
even if covid doesn't kill you, you are at high risk of serious lifelong
complications from it. Far worse quality of life than any of your
existing disabilities.

You should therefore be taking extra care to minimising social
contacts and risk of exposure. It's an inconvenience but it's not for
ever.

Vaccination (relative safety) is within sight and your grasp,so now
would be a particularly stupid time to die of impatient idiocy. Just
hold on for a few more months. Eat what's in the cupboard, and THEN if
you need more supplies, send that useless moocher Justin out with a list
and his own credit card. Or Angela.

Janet UK



Janet UK

In article >, says...
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On 12/30/2020 12:15 PM, Gary wrote:
> >> jmcquown wrote
> >> :
> >>> Julie Bove wrote:
> >>>> New guy made promises to me at the start and so far has kept all of
> >>>> them.
> >>
> >>> Promises? What kind of promises? It would never occur to me to ask for
> >>> promises at the start of a new relationship.
> >>
> >> I was about to ask the same question.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > She has 'Great Expectations' [Dickens reference] when it comes to online
> > dating. Comes across as desperate. I've known women and *men* who simply
> > were incapable of being comfortable living alone. She appears to be one
> > of them.
>
> Oh bull pucky. I'm still living alone, excvept for Justin who isn't here all
> that often. He has his life, I have mine. D. came over, made dinner for all
> of us and left.
>
> I've lived alone for very many years.


No, you ****wit liar, you have not. Your husband left when Angela was
18; then you had Angela, then Justin the Gardener and his ex, now
Justin. The evidence is in your rfc posting history.

> Yeah. Like I said. I'm sick of it. The mandates aren't working.

They aren't working because stupid selfish people like Justin and
you, endlessly misrepresented the advice given, wrote your own
cockamamie script and couldn't even stick to that.

You did Trump's work for him and you're still at it.

Janet UK

In article >,
says...
> I don't know about other people, but I find it difficult to select books
> to read without being able to open them up and have a look.

If you go book shopping on Amazon, you can read the reviews and often
"open the page" for a free sample read. In UK, we can buy sexondhand
books online for pennies (I recommend Abe Book. I'm happy to take
recommendations from people I know IRL or online, whose tastes have
previously matched mine. Plus, we got a dozen new books as Christmas
presents.

I'd mneed a century life-extension to read all the boooks and
authors on my "pending" list.

>Now I have
> to go by author and hope for the best, or go for re-reads of previously
> enjoyed books.

TBH for those of us with a huge library of books, time to re-read
old favourites has been one of the pleasurable opportunities of lockdown
hermitage. I have reread my entire collection of Patrick Obrien ( an
inexhaustible pleasure)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aubrey...Maturin_series

And some old favourites from Jane Sandison (most out of print; I came
upon her in the 1970s and collected the set secondhand in jumble sales;
they are now collectors items with a website for addicts)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Duncan

OK,men probably won't love Jane Duncan, but you MIGHT get addicted to
US author Donna Leon's Brunetti detective series set in Italy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donna_Leon

( re-reading Brunetti is on my list)


Lurking on the shelves is my collection of US author Betty MacDonald

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betty_MacDonald

My mother and I read her in the 1960s, crying with laughter.

Also sitting on the shelves waiting for me is Seamus Heaney, whose
poetry is an endless source of wonder.

Janet UK

In article >,
says...
>
> On 2020-12-30 7:09 p.m., Bryan Simmons wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 1:14:21 PM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> >> I don't know about other people, but I find it difficult to select books
> >> to read without being able to open them up and have a look. Now I have
> >> to go by author and hope for the best, or go for re-reads of previously
> >> enjoyed books.
> >
> > My wife's library quarantined books.

> People breath on those books. They cough and sneeze on them. They
cough
> and sneeze on their hands and then touch the books. The virus can
> survive for a few days and be picked up by the next person who touches
> them. Somewhere along the line that person rubs their eyes or their
> nose, making it just as bad as airborne.

That's why quarantining books works and why libraries do it. Store
them until any covid virus on them is dead. Just a week is plenty

https://coronavirusexplained.ukri.or...ticle/pub0008/

Janet UK

"Master Bruce" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 10:37:50 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 12/30/2020 4:37 AM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>> On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 7:40:11 PM UTC-6, Graham wrote:
>>
>> A few years ago, around this time of year, a worthless piece of shit
>> ceased to exist.
>> It would be lovely if Julie followed Andy. Imagine her dying alone in an
>> ICU. Maybe
>> one of the misfits she consorts with will kill her. Maybe the turdlet
>> will kill her.
>> Maybe the ex-husband will kill her. With her myriad health problems,
>> she's a good
>> candidate for death if she gets the virus.
>>
>> --Bryan
>>
>That's low, even for you.

He can't help it. He's edgy.

=====

He is nasty and vicious. Everything he wishes on other people. I wish on
HIM!!!!!

On 2020-12-30 11:57 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>

>> If you aren't careful you'll end up getting all pregnant...
>
> Not likely.

Not with only a 6 pack of old beer in the house.

On 2020-12-31 12:02 a.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>

>> I enjoy reading but I rarely buy novels, that's why I have a library
>> card... I've had a library card since I was three years old.Â* Library
>> cards are free and if the local library doesn't have a particular book
>> they will get it for you and notify you when it's in.Â* I have a
>> collection of cookbooks but mostly How To and Historical, I don't need
>> recipes.
>
> I like true stories, the history of clothing, food, etc


Funny. I always pictured you as a fan of fiction.

On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 12:02:23 AM UTC-5, wrote:

> I like true stories, the history of clothing, food, etc.

How can you be so well-read and not know that coriander is the seed of
the plant whose leaves we call cilantro?

Cindy Hamilton

On 2020-12-31 4:52 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 4:18:40 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:

>> That looks like a lot of work, but it is a good idea. I confess that I
>> like to have a look inside the book, first to see if it catches my
>> interest. Nope... that is second, First is to make sure that it has
>> large enough print that I can read it. Some of them have such small
>> print that my eyes have trouble.
>
> Get an e-reader. You can make the print pretty much as big as you want
> it. Your library probably has e-books you can borrow.
>

I was looking at them online last night. I can get ebooks from the
library. I am curious about the rationale behind libraries only being
able to loan out a limited number of copies at a time.

I don't have a problem with renewals now. Since materials sit in
quarantine for four days they are not fining people for late materials.
I expect that if you had an ebook on loan it would be deleted at the
end of the loan period.

On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 10:30:14 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2020-12-31 4:52 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 4:18:40 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>> That looks like a lot of work, but it is a good idea. I confess that I
>>> like to have a look inside the book, first to see if it catches my
>>> interest. Nope... that is second, First is to make sure that it has
>>> large enough print that I can read it. Some of them have such small
>>> print that my eyes have trouble.
>>
>> Get an e-reader. You can make the print pretty much as big as you want
>> it. Your library probably has e-books you can borrow.
>>
>
> I was looking at them online last night. I can get ebooks from the
> library. I am curious about the rationale behind libraries only being
> able to loan out a limited number of copies at a time.

The libraries have a limited number of licences from the publishers.
>
> I don't have a problem with renewals now. Since materials sit in
> quarantine for four days they are not fining people for late materials.
> I expect that if you had an ebook on loan it would be deleted at the
> end of the loan period.

Yes, that's what happens.
Incidentally, if you decide to get an e-reader, only KOBO can access
Canadian public libraries.

dsi1 wrote:
> There's a signpost up ahead. You've entered the Bruce zone.

Speaking of that....the Twilight Zone started a marathon of shows on the
SciFi channel this morning at 6am.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> Before you select a library book, go to Amazon and see if you can
> preview the book.

For a physical library book, just read the summary on the inside of the
jacket.

Master Bruce wrote:

> Not that I wear a mask myself, but Australia has little
> covid. So far.

And hopefully, you'll do your part to keep that way by wearing a mask
whenever you go into public places. (just in case)

On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 16:59:15 -0800, Bryan Simmons wrote:

> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 6:35:20 PM UTC-6, Mike Duffy wrote:

>> So why pick on her so vociferously?

>> Are you piling on to get brownie points with her other antagonists?
>
> Brownie points? That's laughable. I'm probably the one person Julie
> never replies to.

The brownie points would be with her other detractors, not her.

You are evading a simple question, Bryan. You say you have no personal
gripe with Julie. What is your reason to insult her so? Your main stated
general reason for any & all is failure to follow lockdown & masking
edicts. Yet she follows these even when it is inconvenient, like letting
her gardener stay even after he shot up her stove and wastes her food,
etc.