On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 19:00:08 +0000, S Viemeister
> wrote:

>On 30/12/2020 18:45, Master Bruce wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 05:19:39 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
>
>>> Colonists from central Europe and the UK were rivals in Tanzania during the WWI, so some of the food traits will have their origins from there.
>>
>> Can you be more specific about "colonists from central Europe"? Just
>> curious.
>>
>Presumably he means Germany. Before Tanzania was created, by the union
>of Tanganyika with the island of Zanzibar, Tanganyika was known as
>Deutsch-OstAfrika.

Oh, I was thinking of a more motley crew. If they were Germans, I'd
call them Germans, rather than "colonists from central Europe".

On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 1:45:23 PM UTC-5, Master Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 05:19:39 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
> > wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, December 27, 2020 at 10:08:23 AM UTC-5, Janet wrote:
> >> In article >, says...
> >> > "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> >> > ...
> >> > > On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 21:36:52 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> OMG. He is not a gardener and yes, he's black.
> >> > >
> >> > > That's really all you came here to tell us. It took your four
> >> > > paragraphs, though.
> >> >
> >> > No. I asked about the cuisine.
> >> But you didn't ask him, the real-life face-to-face source of all the
> >> answers and information you require abouy his preferred food. Why is
> >> that?
> >>
> >> There is no (single) Tanzanian cuisine.
> >>
> >> FYI the continent of Africa is far more ethnically diverse than USA
> >> (and correspondingly more diverse in cultures, languages, religions,
> >> cuisines).
> >>
> >> Every country within Africa has its own long history of migration,
> >> wars, invasion, foreign colonialisation, and occupation. Including
> >> Tanzania, which has at least a thousand years of sea trade with the
> >> Middle East, Far East: India and Arabia, Pakistan, Iran etc.
> >
> >If you don't mind continuing:
> >
> >Colonists from central Europe and the UK were rivals in Tanzania during the WWI, so some of the food traits will have their origins from there.
> Can you be more specific about "colonists from central Europe"? Just
> curious.

I'll leave that to the German language department at your local community college.

On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 10:37:50 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 12/30/2020 4:37 AM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>> On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 7:40:11 PM UTC-6, Graham wrote:
>>> On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 16:27:51 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> No wonder you laugh at stupid Americans. So many of us are.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is why I always defended Trump for not warning everyone to wear masks
>>>>> and stay home every chance you get. Not fair to blame him for the many
>>>>> deaths in this country. Even if he had done that...still so many idiots
>>>>> would have ignored the warnings just like they do now.
>>>>>
>>>>> In a fair world, it's the idiots that ignore the warnings that should be
>>>>> the ones that die, not the "collateral damage" that they cause by
>>>>> spreading the virus.
>>>>
>>>> Right. Personally I don't think the masks do a damned bit of good. One of my
>>>> Drs. said he found that people were wearing worn out ones with holes or even
>>>> poking holes in them so they could breathe better. I do wear them though.
>>>> Not going to risk being punched or shot at.
>>> GAWD! You really are incredibly stupid!!!! You really are QAninny fodder!
>>
>> A few years ago, around this time of year, a worthless piece of shit ceased to exist.
>> It would be lovely if Julie followed Andy. Imagine her dying alone in an ICU. Maybe
>> one of the misfits she consorts with will kill her. Maybe the turdlet will kill her.
>> Maybe the ex-husband will kill her. With her myriad health problems, she's a good
>> candidate for death if she gets the virus.
>>
>> --Bryan
>>
>That's low, even for you.
>
>Jill

I pray that Julie gets to squat and pee on Bryan's grave.

On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 9:13:10 PM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
> On 2020 Dec 29, , Master Bruce wrote
> (in >):
> > I agree that it should be. But you can't deny that it has become very
> > political in your country. In my countries the left and the right
> > pretty much agree with what their governments are doing. It's mainly
> > the kooks from both sides who disagree.
> It´s a shame that we are where we are. Both sides are to blame. I can´t
> foresee a solution. My social, culinary and political thoughts haven´t
> changed a whit since 1970, so you know where I stand.
> > (I realise that you might never read this.)
> I´m hanging in there for the time being, but I´ve been up for 17 hours,
> and I´m old. I could blink out at any time and in any way
There's a signpost up ahead. You've entered the Bruce zone.

On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 1:54:24 PM UTC-5, Master Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 03:58:50 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
> >On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 10:06:02 PM UTC-5, Leo wrote:
> >> On 2020 Dec 29, , Master Bruce wrote
> >> (in >):
> >> > Nevertheless, at least in the US, right-wingers tend to be covid
> >> > spreaders.
> >> Cite a non-leftist publication that states that.
> >
> >He doesn't need to. COVID has spread most in population centers
> >of any political stripe, followed by less-populous areas. Even the
> >MSM will tell you that.
> >
> >Bruce is wrong, of course.
>
> I'm right, of course. Right-wingers are more likely to think that
> covid's a hoax or at least severely exaggerated. It makes them less
> careful. They're spreading the love. It's amazing that you didn't you
> know that. It's your country. You can check with Joan, by the way.
> She's just had a few maskless holidays with her extended family.

You should have seen the liberal college students packed into bars
at their earliest opportunity.

Cindy Hamilton

On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 2:14:21 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-12-30 12:14 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> > On 12/30/2020 11:43 AM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> ooks is expensive!
> >>
> >> I enjoy reading but I rarely buy novels, that's why I have a library
> >> card... I've had a library card since I was three years old. Library
> >> cards are free and if the local library doesn't have a particular book
> >> they will get it for you and notify you when it's in. I have a
> >> collection of cookbooks but mostly How To and Historical, I don't need
> >> recipes.
> >>
> > To be fair, most public libraries have been shut down in 2020 due to
> > Covid-19. I don't have to buy books. There is a library on Dataw
> > called 'The Cannery'. Residents donate books and have been doing so for
> > decades. I always have five or six books waiting to be read. And yes,
> > I read very quickly. The type of books I read vary from historical to
> > biographies to fiction and murder mysteries. I'm never bored. I sure
> > as heck don't have to go online looking for some guy to make me feel
> > complete. Julie comes across as terribly desperate.
> Our library was shut down for over a month back in March and April but
> than opened up for curb side pick up only. Then in the summer they
> opened up to limited numbers of people for short stays. They took out
> all the computers, tables, chairs. Books had to be returned to the drop
> box and sit in quarantine for four days.
>
> We went back into lock down this week and the doors are locked. They
> switched back to curb side pick up. It is a lot better now than it was
> back in the spring. I put on a hold on three books and three DVDs late
> last night and got emails about most of them being ready for pickup. I
> have a half dozen DVDs and some books to go back and one I should finish
> tonight, so I will take them back tomorrow.
>
>
> I don't know about other people, but I find it difficult to select books
> to read without being able to open them up and have a look. Now I have
> to go by author and hope for the best, or go for re-reads of previously
> enjoyed books.

Before you select a library book, go to Amazon and see if you can
preview the book.

Cindy Hamilton

On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 12:41:35 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 1:54:24 PM UTC-5, Master Bruce wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 03:58:50 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >He doesn't need to. COVID has spread most in population centers
>> >of any political stripe, followed by less-populous areas. Even the
>> >MSM will tell you that.
>> >
>> >Bruce is wrong, of course.
>>
>> I'm right, of course. Right-wingers are more likely to think that
>> covid's a hoax or at least severely exaggerated. It makes them less
>> careful. They're spreading the love. It's amazing that you didn't you
>> know that. It's your country. You can check with Joan, by the way.
>> She's just had a few maskless holidays with her extended family.
>
>You should have seen the liberal college students packed into bars
>at their earliest opportunity.

Yes, young people think they won't get very sick from it and they're
often right. I constantly hear about football (feet, ball) players who
have covid. 2 weeks later they're playing again.

On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 12:43:33 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 2:14:21 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2020-12-30 12:14 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>> > On 12/30/2020 11:43 AM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
>> ooks is expensive!
>> >>
>> >> I enjoy reading but I rarely buy novels, that's why I have a library
>> >> card... I've had a library card since I was three years old. Library
>> >> cards are free and if the local library doesn't have a particular book
>> >> they will get it for you and notify you when it's in. I have a
>> >> collection of cookbooks but mostly How To and Historical, I don't need
>> >> recipes.
>> >>
>> > To be fair, most public libraries have been shut down in 2020 due to
>> > Covid-19. I don't have to buy books. There is a library on Dataw
>> > called 'The Cannery'. Residents donate books and have been doing so for
>> > decades. I always have five or six books waiting to be read. And yes,
>> > I read very quickly. The type of books I read vary from historical to
>> > biographies to fiction and murder mysteries. I'm never bored. I sure
>> > as heck don't have to go online looking for some guy to make me feel
>> > complete. Julie comes across as terribly desperate.
>> Our library was shut down for over a month back in March and April but
>> than opened up for curb side pick up only. Then in the summer they
>> opened up to limited numbers of people for short stays. They took out
>> all the computers, tables, chairs. Books had to be returned to the drop
>> box and sit in quarantine for four days.
>>
>> We went back into lock down this week and the doors are locked. They
>> switched back to curb side pick up. It is a lot better now than it was
>> back in the spring. I put on a hold on three books and three DVDs late
>> last night and got emails about most of them being ready for pickup. I
>> have a half dozen DVDs and some books to go back and one I should finish
>> tonight, so I will take them back tomorrow.
>>
>>
>> I don't know about other people, but I find it difficult to select books
>> to read without being able to open them up and have a look. Now I have
>> to go by author and hope for the best, or go for re-reads of previously
>> enjoyed books.
>
>Before you select a library book, go to Amazon and see if you can
>preview the book.

Lots of book are available in binary Usenet groups.

On 2020-12-30 3:43 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 2:14:21 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:

>> I don't know about other people, but I find it difficult to select books
>> to read without being able to open them up and have a look. Now I have
>> to go by author and hope for the best, or go for re-reads of previously
>> enjoyed books.
>
> Before you select a library book, go to Amazon and see if you can
> preview the book.
>


That looks like a lot of work, but it is a good idea. I confess that I
like to have a look inside the book, first to see if it catches my
interest. Nope... that is second, First is to make sure that it has
large enough print that I can read it. Some of them have such small
print that my eyes have trouble.

FWIW... I am watching Red Badge of Courage on TMC. That inspired me to
go online and order the book from the library. Here I am 20 minutes
later and the library just emailed me to know it is ready to be picked up.

On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 23:17:17 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:


>I don't know what you mean about someone else approving ingredients. I did
>show him some of what I bought. Peri Peri and Piri Piri. He said those were
>the wrong things and the correct term in Swahili is Pili Pili. A search
>turned up a musical group. A couple of foods did show up as Peri Pweri.
>Dunno.

Both of these show up on the first page of Google search results:

https://lowcarbafrica.com/pili-pili-sauce/

https://13socialenterprise.com/products/pili-pili

Doris

On 12/30/2020 4:05 PM, Master Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 12:41:35 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 1:54:24 PM UTC-5, Master Bruce wrote:
>>> On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 03:58:50 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> He doesn't need to. COVID has spread most in population centers
>>>> of any political stripe, followed by less-populous areas. Even the
>>>> MSM will tell you that.
>>>>
>>>> Bruce is wrong, of course.
>>>
>>> I'm right, of course. Right-wingers are more likely to think that
>>> covid's a hoax or at least severely exaggerated. It makes them less
>>> careful. They're spreading the love. It's amazing that you didn't you
>>> know that. It's your country. You can check with Joan, by the way.
>>> She's just had a few maskless holidays with her extended family.
>>
>> You should have seen the liberal college students packed into bars
>> at their earliest opportunity.
>
> Yes, young people think they won't get very sick from it and they're
> often right. I constantly hear about football (feet, ball) players who
> have covid. 2 weeks later they're playing again.
>
Some are fortunate that way. OTOH, as you get older, not so much.
Friend of mine was in the hospital and was getting Remdesivir and doing
ok. One more shot and you can go home. His funeral will be Monday.

On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 16:24:02 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 12/30/2020 4:05 PM, Master Bruce wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 12:41:35 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> You should have seen the liberal college students packed into bars
>>> at their earliest opportunity.
>>
>> Yes, young people think they won't get very sick from it and they're
>> often right. I constantly hear about football (feet, ball) players who
>> have covid. 2 weeks later they're playing again.
>>
>Some are fortunate that way. OTOH, as you get older, not so much.
>Friend of mine was in the hospital and was getting Remdesivir and doing
>ok. One more shot and you can go home. His funeral will be Monday.

Terrible. A school in the Netherlands has 40 infections, 5 of which
are the UK strain. So far one death: a 38 year old female teacher.

On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 16:18:33 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2020-12-30 3:43 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 2:14:21 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>> I don't know about other people, but I find it difficult to select books
>>> to read without being able to open them up and have a look. Now I have
>>> to go by author and hope for the best, or go for re-reads of previously
>>> enjoyed books.
>>
>> Before you select a library book, go to Amazon and see if you can
>> preview the book.
>>
>
>
>That looks like a lot of work, but it is a good idea. I confess that I
>like to have a look inside the book, first to see if it catches my
>interest. Nope... that is second, First is to make sure that it has
>large enough print that I can read it. Some of them have such small
>print that my eyes have trouble.

They invented a really handy device for that problem.

On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 16:18:33 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2020-12-30 3:43 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 2:14:21 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>> I don't know about other people, but I find it difficult to select books
>>> to read without being able to open them up and have a look. Now I have
>>> to go by author and hope for the best, or go for re-reads of previously
>>> enjoyed books.
>>
>> Before you select a library book, go to Amazon and see if you can
>> preview the book.
>>
>
>
>That looks like a lot of work, but it is a good idea. I confess that I
>like to have a look inside the book, first to see if it catches my
>interest. Nope... that is second, First is to make sure that it has
>large enough print that I can read it. Some of them have such small
>print that my eyes have trouble.
>
>FWIW... I am watching Red Badge of Courage on TMC. That inspired me to
>go online and order the book from the library. Here I am 20 minutes
>later and the library just emailed me to know it is ready to be picked up.

Many books can be read on line, for free... can even print them if one
prefers a paper copy... and can enlarge the font to suit.

On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 1:57:03 PM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 10:37:50 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
> >On 12/30/2020 4:37 AM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 7:40:11 PM UTC-6, Graham wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 16:27:51 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> No wonder you laugh at stupid Americans. So many of us are.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This is why I always defended Trump for not warning everyone to wear masks
> >>>>> and stay home every chance you get. Not fair to blame him for the many
> >>>>> deaths in this country. Even if he had done that...still so many idiots
> >>>>> would have ignored the warnings just like they do now.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In a fair world, it's the idiots that ignore the warnings that should be
> >>>>> the ones that die, not the "collateral damage" that they cause by
> >>>>> spreading the virus.
> >>>>
> >>>> Right. Personally I don't think the masks do a damned bit of good. One of my
> >>>> Drs. said he found that people were wearing worn out ones with holes or even
> >>>> poking holes in them so they could breathe better. I do wear them though.
> >>>> Not going to risk being punched or shot at.
> >>> GAWD! You really are incredibly stupid!!!! You really are QAninny fodder!
> >>
> >> A few years ago, around this time of year, a worthless piece of shit ceased to exist.
> >> It would be lovely if Julie followed Andy. Imagine her dying alone in an ICU. Maybe
> >> one of the misfits she consorts with will kill her. Maybe the turdlet will kill her.
> >> Maybe the ex-husband will kill her. With her myriad health problems, she's a good
> >> candidate for death if she gets the virus.
> >>
> >> --Bryan
> >>
> >That's low, even for you.
> >
> >Jill
>
> I pray that Julie gets to squat and pee on Bryan's grave.

I'd wish that she'd squat and take a dump on your face while you're still alive,
but you'd probably enjoy it.

--Bryan

On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 11:24:11 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 12/30/2020 4:05 PM, Master Bruce wrote:
> > On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 12:41:35 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 1:54:24 PM UTC-5, Master Bruce wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 03:58:50 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> He doesn't need to. COVID has spread most in population centers
> >>>> of any political stripe, followed by less-populous areas. Even the
> >>>> MSM will tell you that.
> >>>>
> >>>> Bruce is wrong, of course.
> >>>
> >>> I'm right, of course. Right-wingers are more likely to think that
> >>> covid's a hoax or at least severely exaggerated. It makes them less
> >>> careful. They're spreading the love. It's amazing that you didn't you
> >>> know that. It's your country. You can check with Joan, by the way.
> >>> She's just had a few maskless holidays with her extended family.
> >>
> >> You should have seen the liberal college students packed into bars
> >> at their earliest opportunity.
> >
> > Yes, young people think they won't get very sick from it and they're
> > often right. I constantly hear about football (feet, ball) players who
> > have covid. 2 weeks later they're playing again.
> >
> Some are fortunate that way. OTOH, as you get older, not so much.
> Friend of mine was in the hospital and was getting Remdesivir and doing
> ok. One more shot and you can go home. His funeral will be Monday.
That's pretty scary. You think you're out of the woods but then your system just collapses. You're never out of the woods until you're out of the woods.

On 2020-12-30 1:43 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 2:14:21 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2020-12-30 12:14 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 12/30/2020 11:43 AM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
>> ooks is expensive!
>>>>
>>>> I enjoy reading but I rarely buy novels, that's why I have a library
>>>> card... I've had a library card since I was three years old. Library
>>>> cards are free and if the local library doesn't have a particular book
>>>> they will get it for you and notify you when it's in. I have a
>>>> collection of cookbooks but mostly How To and Historical, I don't need
>>>> recipes.
>>>>
>>> To be fair, most public libraries have been shut down in 2020 due to
>>> Covid-19. I don't have to buy books. There is a library on Dataw
>>> called 'The Cannery'. Residents donate books and have been doing so for
>>> decades. I always have five or six books waiting to be read. And yes,
>>> I read very quickly. The type of books I read vary from historical to
>>> biographies to fiction and murder mysteries. I'm never bored. I sure
>>> as heck don't have to go online looking for some guy to make me feel
>>> complete. Julie comes across as terribly desperate.
>> Our library was shut down for over a month back in March and April but
>> than opened up for curb side pick up only. Then in the summer they
>> opened up to limited numbers of people for short stays. They took out
>> all the computers, tables, chairs. Books had to be returned to the drop
>> box and sit in quarantine for four days.
>>
>> We went back into lock down this week and the doors are locked. They
>> switched back to curb side pick up. It is a lot better now than it was
>> back in the spring. I put on a hold on three books and three DVDs late
>> last night and got emails about most of them being ready for pickup. I
>> have a half dozen DVDs and some books to go back and one I should finish
>> tonight, so I will take them back tomorrow.
>>
>>
>> I don't know about other people, but I find it difficult to select books
>> to read without being able to open them up and have a look. Now I have
>> to go by author and hope for the best, or go for re-reads of previously
>> enjoyed books.
>
> Before you select a library book, go to Amazon and see if you can
> preview the book.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
I do that before buying a book. I can't stand books written in the
present tense/journalistese. So Hilary Mantel is out and although the
new book "Hamnet", set in Shakespeare's time, looked promising, one look
at the opening sentence immediately ruled it out.

On 12/30/2020 1:56 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
> writes:
>> On 12/30/2020 12:15 PM, Gary wrote:
>>> jmcquown wrote
>>> :
>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>> New guy made promises to me at the start and so far has kept all of
>>>>> them.
>>>
>>>> Promises?A What kind of promises?A It would never occur to me to ask for
>>>> promises at the start of a new relationship.
>>>
>>> I was about to ask the same question.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> She has 'Great Expectations' [Dickens reference] when it comes to online
>> dating. Comes across as desperate. I've known women and *men* who
>> simply were incapable of being comfortable living alone. She appears to
>> be one of them.
>>
>> The weird thing is she posts about how everyone has been ordered to stay
>> home and not go shopping and can't find whatever food online. Yet she's
>> meeting some guy in a parking lot to allegedly to go shopping for plants.
>>
>> Jill
>
> There is not an order to "not go shopping."
>
> https://www.kingcounty.gov/depts/hea...id-19/FAQ.aspx
>
> Item 24, "What should I be doing as an individual?"
>
> Public Health and the Governor's Office asks everyone to avoid all
> non-essential contact with people you don't live with, regardless of
> whether they are young and healthy or not.
>
> Stay at home as much as possible. What does it mean to stay home?
>
> Limit trips for groceries, gas and other essentials.
>
> If you must go out, stay at least 6 feet away from others at all times.
>
> Fewer, shorter and safer interactions are crucial.
>
> Wear a cloth face covering when you are at any indoor or outdoor
> public space where you are within 6 feet of others.
>
> Continue to practice healthy hand hygiene, cough into sleeves, stay
> home when sick, and disinfect high-touch surfaces both inside and
> outside their home.
>
> Do not buy more than you need. Many are overstocking on products
> that sick neighbors, healthcare providers, and emergency providers
> need like hand sanitizer and disinfectant wipes. Leave some for
> your neighbors!
>
Preaching to the choir, tert.

Jill

On 30/12/2020 21:18, Dave Smith wrote:

> That looks like a lot of work, but it is a good idea.Â* I confess that I
> like to have a look inside the book, first to see if it catches my
> interest. Nope... that is second, First is to make sure that it has
> large enough print that I can read it. Some of them have such small
> print that my eyes have trouble.
>
This is where e-readers, like Kindle, really come into their own. The
type style and _size_ can be changed to whatever suits you. And these
days, libraries don't just lend out dead-tree books - I can borrow
e-books online from the local library, and download them to my Kindle.
They 'return' themselves at the end of the borrowing period.

On 12/29/2020 4:27 PM, Julie Bove wrote:

>
> Right. Personally I don't think

Yes, that's correct. You don't think. You're an idiot.

**** off. LEAVE. GET A LIFE!

On 12/29/2020 4:45 PM, Julie Bove wrote:

> I also almost always buy

Nobody cares. Shut the **** up. You're an idiot.

On 12/30/2020 4:18 AM, Julie Bove wrote:

> I won't be here much longer.

Leave now. Don't wait.

Master Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 14:14:11 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> Our library was shut down for over a month back in March and April but
>> than opened up for curb side pick up only. Then in the summer they
>> opened up to limited numbers of people for short stays. They took out
>> all the computers, tables, chairs. Books had to be returned to the drop
>> box and sit in quarantine for four days.
>>
>> We went back into lock down this week and the doors are locked. They
>> switched back to curb side pick up. It is a lot better now than it was
>> back in the spring. I put on a hold on three books and three DVDs late
>> last night and got emails about most of them being ready for pickup. I
>> have a half dozen DVDs and some books to go back and one I should finish
>> tonight, so I will take them back tomorrow.
>>
>>
>> I don't know about other people, but I find it difficult to select books
>> to read without being able to open them up and have a look. Now I have
>> to go by author and hope for the best, or go for re-reads of previously
>> enjoyed books.
>
> Keep us posted, Dave.
>
Keep your nose in dave's ass master gruce.

<*SNIFF*>

Master Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 14:14:11 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> Our library was shut down for over a month back in March and April but
>> than opened up for curb side pick up only. Then in the summer they
>> opened up to limited numbers of people for short stays. They took out
>> all the computers, tables, chairs. Books had to be returned to the drop
>> box and sit in quarantine for four days.
>>
>> We went back into lock down this week and the doors are locked. They
>> switched back to curb side pick up. It is a lot better now than it was
>> back in the spring. I put on a hold on three books and three DVDs late
>> last night and got emails about most of them being ready for pickup. I
>> have a half dozen DVDs and some books to go back and one I should finish
>> tonight, so I will take them back tomorrow.
>>
>>
>> I don't know about other people, but I find it difficult to select books
>> to read without being able to open them up and have a look. Now I have
>> to go by author and hope for the best, or go for re-reads of previously
>> enjoyed books.
>
> Keep us posted, Dave.
>

Keep sniffing his ass Druce.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 2:14:21 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2020-12-30 12:14 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 12/30/2020 11:43 AM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
>> ooks is expensive!
>>>>
>>>> I enjoy reading but I rarely buy novels, that's why I have a library
>>>> card... I've had a library card since I was three years old. Library
>>>> cards are free and if the local library doesn't have a particular book
>>>> they will get it for you and notify you when it's in. I have a
>>>> collection of cookbooks but mostly How To and Historical, I don't need
>>>> recipes.
>>>>
>>> To be fair, most public libraries have been shut down in 2020 due to
>>> Covid-19. I don't have to buy books. There is a library on Dataw
>>> called 'The Cannery'. Residents donate books and have been doing so for
>>> decades. I always have five or six books waiting to be read. And yes,
>>> I read very quickly. The type of books I read vary from historical to
>>> biographies to fiction and murder mysteries. I'm never bored. I sure
>>> as heck don't have to go online looking for some guy to make me feel
>>> complete. Julie comes across as terribly desperate.
>> Our library was shut down for over a month back in March and April but
>> than opened up for curb side pick up only. Then in the summer they
>> opened up to limited numbers of people for short stays. They took out
>> all the computers, tables, chairs. Books had to be returned to the drop
>> box and sit in quarantine for four days.
>>
>> We went back into lock down this week and the doors are locked. They
>> switched back to curb side pick up. It is a lot better now than it was
>> back in the spring. I put on a hold on three books and three DVDs late
>> last night and got emails about most of them being ready for pickup. I
>> have a half dozen DVDs and some books to go back and one I should finish
>> tonight, so I will take them back tomorrow.
>>
>>
>> I don't know about other people, but I find it difficult to select books
>> to read without being able to open them up and have a look. Now I have
>> to go by author and hope for the best, or go for re-reads of previously
>> enjoyed books.
>
> Before you select a library book, go to Amazon and see if you can
> preview the book.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

Why bother with amazon? We have many authors right here!

Probably more.

On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 12:49:49 PM UTC-6, Master Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 11:57:20 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
> >On 12/30/2020 11:15 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Maybe the ex-husband will kill her. With her myriad health problems,
> >>> she's a good candidate for death if she gets the virus.
> >>
> >> I see you've recovered completely from your Covid-19 infection and are
> >> now back to your original form, Bryan.
> >>
> >> I've berated you as sarcastically as possible several times, and all I
> >> ever got was labelled a 'wacky misfit'. Others here similarly get
> >> described as 'goofy', etc.
> >>
> >> John, at least, has committed the atrocious act of giving us a negative
> >> non-professional opinion of your mental health, and this from someone who
> >> admits to mental health issues of his own.
> >>
> >> So what did Julie do to you specifically to merit such personal animus?
> >>
It's not personal.
> >>
> >For that matter, what did Andy ever do to him?

That prick taunted a double amputee, calling him "No Legs Murphy." Blake was
not my friend. We didn't like each other, but Andy did it over and over.

> > Bryan is right back in form, wishing people dead.

Right back? Had I taken a break or something?

> > And of course, touting his book which no one here gives a shit about.

Oh, you give a shit. It ****es you off.

> Maybe the less we care about his book, the more he wants people dead.

I like it when people who are careless about spreading Covid die. Has one
of these pieces of shit given it to you? Have you had loved ones who've
died from the virus? I know that you're not going to read the book. You
really wouldn't get it anyway. That's not even an insult.

--Bryan

On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 15:46:15 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 12:49:49 PM UTC-6, Master Bruce wrote:

>> Maybe the less we care about his book, the more he wants people dead.
>
>I like it when people who are careless about spreading Covid die. Has one
>of these pieces of shit given it to you? Have you had loved ones who've
>died from the virus? I know that you're not going to read the book. You
>really wouldn't get it anyway. That's not even an insult.

If I had something to say in reply to this, I'd say it.

On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 1:14:21 PM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-12-30 12:14 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> > On 12/30/2020 11:43 AM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> ooks is expensive!
> >>
> >> I enjoy reading but I rarely buy novels, that's why I have a library
> >> card... I've had a library card since I was three years old. Library
> >> cards are free and if the local library doesn't have a particular book
> >> they will get it for you and notify you when it's in. I have a
> >> collection of cookbooks but mostly How To and Historical, I don't need
> >> recipes.
> >>
> > To be fair, most public libraries have been shut down in 2020 due to
> > Covid-19. I don't have to buy books. There is a library on Dataw
> > called 'The Cannery'. Residents donate books and have been doing so for
> > decades. I always have five or six books waiting to be read. And yes,
> > I read very quickly. The type of books I read vary from historical to
> > biographies to fiction and murder mysteries. I'm never bored. I sure
> > as heck don't have to go online looking for some guy to make me feel
> > complete. Julie comes across as terribly desperate.
> Our library was shut down for over a month back in March and April but
> than opened up for curb side pick up only. Then in the summer they
> opened up to limited numbers of people for short stays. They took out
> all the computers, tables, chairs. Books had to be returned to the drop
> box and sit in quarantine for four days.
>
> We went back into lock down this week and the doors are locked. They
> switched back to curb side pick up. It is a lot better now than it was
> back in the spring. I put on a hold on three books and three DVDs late
> last night and got emails about most of them being ready for pickup. I
> have a half dozen DVDs and some books to go back and one I should finish
> tonight, so I will take them back tomorrow.
>
>
> I don't know about other people, but I find it difficult to select books
> to read without being able to open them up and have a look. Now I have
> to go by author and hope for the best, or go for re-reads of previously
> enjoyed books.

My wife's library quarantined books. Quarantining books and wiping down
surfaces is a waste of effort. The virus is almost exclusively airborne. The
new variant is more transmissible, while seemingly no more virulent. The
logical assumption is that either the new mutation is better at binding to
human cells, or that the exhaled quantities of virus are increased, more
likely the former. In either case, 95% respirators are even more preferential
to cloth masks.

--Bryan

On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 3:28:14 PM UTC-6, Master Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 16:24:02 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
> >On 12/30/2020 4:05 PM, Master Bruce wrote:
> >> On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 12:41:35 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> You should have seen the liberal college students packed into bars
> >>> at their earliest opportunity.
> >>
> >> Yes, young people think they won't get very sick from it and they're
> >> often right. I constantly hear about football (feet, ball) players who
> >> have covid. 2 weeks later they're playing again.
> >>
> >Some are fortunate that way. OTOH, as you get older, not so much.
> >Friend of mine was in the hospital and was getting Remdesivir and doing
> >ok. One more shot and you can go home. His funeral will be Monday.
> Terrible. A school in the Netherlands has 40 infections, 5 of which
> are the UK strain. So far one death: a 38 year old female teacher.

Yet you still defend antimaskers, vermin like Julie who only wear one out
of fear that she'd get punched. That mentality has caused the deaths of
many innocent humans who tried to do the right thing, including caregivers.

--Bryan

On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 5:59:59 PM UTC-6, Master Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 15:46:15 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
> > wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 12:49:49 PM UTC-6, Master Bruce wrote:
>
> >> Maybe the less we care about his book, the more he wants people dead.
> >
> >I like it when people who are careless about spreading Covid die. Has one
> >of these pieces of shit given it to you? Have you had loved ones who've
> >died from the virus? I know that you're not going to read the book. You
> >really wouldn't get it anyway. That's not even an insult.
> If I had something to say in reply to this, I'd say it.

I take it that you haven't contracted the virus, nor have any loved ones died
from the virus.

--Bryan

On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 16:21:42 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 3:28:14 PM UTC-6, Master Bruce wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 16:24:02 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>> >Some are fortunate that way. OTOH, as you get older, not so much.
>> >Friend of mine was in the hospital and was getting Remdesivir and doing
>> >ok. One more shot and you can go home. His funeral will be Monday.
>> Terrible. A school in the Netherlands has 40 infections, 5 of which
>> are the UK strain. So far one death: a 38 year old female teacher.
>
>Yet you still defend antimaskers, vermin like Julie who only wear one out
>of fear that she'd get punched. That mentality has caused the deaths of
>many innocent humans who tried to do the right thing, including caregivers.

I may defend Julie if the usual vultures are having a go at her or
when you're having a little psychiatric episode, but I don't defend
antimasking. Not that I wear a mask myself, but Australia has little
covid. So far.

On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 16:27:10 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 5:59:59 PM UTC-6, Master Bruce wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 15:46:15 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 12:49:49 PM UTC-6, Master Bruce wrote:
>>
>> >> Maybe the less we care about his book, the more he wants people dead.
>> >
>> >I like it when people who are careless about spreading Covid die. Has one
>> >of these pieces of shit given it to you? Have you had loved ones who've
>> >died from the virus? I know that you're not going to read the book. You
>> >really wouldn't get it anyway. That's not even an insult.
>> If I had something to say in reply to this, I'd say it.
>
>I take it that you haven't contracted the virus, nor have any loved ones died
>from the virus.

No.

On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 15:46:15 -0800, Bryan Simmons wrote:

> It's not personal.

So why pick on her so vociferously?

By all accounts, she is taking the sheltering & mask-wearing more
seriously than the general populace, and I cannot recall anything she
said against you to merit the level of venom you spit at her.

Are you piling on to get brownie points with her other antagonists?


> Right back? Had I taken a break or something?

Perhaps I was mistaken, but you & your family being at risk did seem to
make you a bit more amicable. My mistake I guess.

Julie Bove wrote:

>
> "cshenk" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> > >
> >>"cshenk" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> >>> Sqwertz wrote:
> > > >
> >>> > On Sat, 26 Dec 2020 20:16:40 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
> >>> >
> >>>>> some kind of cooked greens or a salad that's very similar to
> >>>>> Pico De Gallo.
> >>> >
> >>> > Say WHAT!?!?
> >>> >
> >>> > You have the worst Google on earth.
> >>> >
> >>> > -sw
> > > >
> >>> No, actually I saw that too. Both are served with Ugali, which I
> >>> referenced as the cornmeal sort of mush made to a ball.
> > >
> > > Yes. I did order the flour for the Ugali. The greens are usually
> > > Kale or Collard but sometimes Spinach.
> >
> > I saw. If you were here, I could have pointed you to 3 places that
> > have the right flour at a good price. We have a big hispanic
> > element and no, few are actually from Mexico (but some are).
> >
> > <referring to Steve below>
> >>> Did you even try looking up foods from there or are you just
> >>> assuming?
> > >
> > > He must be assuming.
> >
> > I'd say so. I think he's not used to you googling as it's not
> > mentioned often but obviously you do like everone else.
> >
> >
> > > I didn't find a lot of stuff online for this. But I was mainly
> > > trying to figure out what source of heat he might want when he
> > > said he wanted to add heat to the dish. I didn't even realize
> > > that I had the chile/garlic sauce when he asked. I don't remember
> > > buying it. I do have asst. Mexican type salsas but the food he
> > > had came from an Asian/Indian fusion type place some I don't
> > > think that would have worked.
> >
> > It is a different 'heat' yes. Most of my peeks didn't lead to
> > 'bland' when you combined to a meal. It seemed there was always
> > something that was fairly 'hot' in the mix.
> >
> > Did you catch much on lentils in your looks? I saw a few so that
> > might be wortch looking into since often handy at your place. They
> > cook quick.
>
> I saw bweans but not lentils. I would assume the Dal type of lentils
> might be eaten. I have only done maybe an hour of research. I will
> look more later.
> >
> > Want me to pass some possibles there? I'm looking up recipes close
> > to that anyways for me so it's just saving a link of any that might
> > be of interest.
>
> Thanks! My flour arrived today. My friend in Canada said it is Maize
> flour and not corn. I always assumed that maize and corn were the
> same. He said they are not. He's my biggest cooking expert but he's
> not familiar with this type of food.

Coming back to this one. Maise flour and corn flour are the same for
us. In some of Europe, it may differ. Canada just calls it a
different name it seems but it's actually the same. From the looks of
the Ugali, it is the fine flour used to make it.

The cornmeal I meantioned seems to be the wrong product. I was too
generic there. The right one seems to be the one you got.

In Germany and other parts, 'Maise Flour' can mean Rye and others.

On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 6:35:20 PM UTC-6, Mike Duffy wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 15:46:15 -0800, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>
> > It's not personal.
>
> So why pick on her so vociferously?
>
> By all accounts, she is taking the sheltering & mask-wearing more
> seriously than the general populace, and I cannot recall anything she
> said against you to merit the level of venom you spit at her.
>
> Are you piling on to get brownie points with her other antagonists?

Brownie points? That's laughable. I'm probably the one person Julie never
replies to.

> > Right back? Had I taken a break or something?
> Perhaps I was mistaken, but you & your family being at risk did seem to
> make you a bit more amicable. My mistake I guess.

I'm less at risk now. My family has some immunity against infection. I
still have no patience with those who deny the efficacy of masking.

--Bryan

Master Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 10:37:50 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 12/30/2020 4:37 AM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 7:40:11 PM UTC-6, Graham wrote:
>>>
>>> A few years ago, around this time of year, a worthless piece of shit ceased to exist.
>>> It would be lovely if Julie followed Andy. Imagine her dying alone in an ICU. Maybe
>>> one of the misfits she consorts with will kill her. Maybe the turdlet will kill her.
>>> Maybe the ex-husband will kill her. With her myriad health problems, she's a good
>>> candidate for death if she gets the virus.
>>>
>>> --Bryan
>>>
>> That's low, even for you.
>
> He can't help it. He's edgy.
>

**** it! Sniff both their asses druce!

On 2020-12-30 6:46 p.m., Bryan Simmons wrote:

> I like it when people who are careless about spreading Covid die. Has one
> of these pieces of shit given it to you? Have you had loved ones who've
> died from the virus? I know that you're not going to read the book. You
> really wouldn't get it anyway. That's not even an insult.
>


You were careless enough to catch it. Do you know how many people you
infected before you were diagnosed?

On 2020-12-30 7:09 p.m., Bryan Simmons wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 1:14:21 PM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:

>> I don't know about other people, but I find it difficult to select books
>> to read without being able to open them up and have a look. Now I have
>> to go by author and hope for the best, or go for re-reads of previously
>> enjoyed books.
>
> My wife's library quarantined books. Quarantining books and wiping down
> surfaces is a waste of effort. The virus is almost exclusively airborne. The
> new variant is more transmissible, while seemingly no more virulent. The
> logical assumption is that either the new mutation is better at binding to
> human cells, or that the exhaled quantities of virus are increased, more
> likely the former. In either case, 95% respirators are even more preferential
> to cloth masks.
>

People breath on those books. They cough and sneeze on them. They cough
and sneeze on their hands and then touch the books. The virus can
survive for a few days and be picked up by the next person who touches
them. Somewhere along the line that person rubs their eyes or their
nose, making it just as bad as airborne.

Julie Bove wrote:

> "jmcquown" > wrote in message

(snipped)

> I know people here are going to make all sorts of things out of this.
> Nothing I can do about that. That's the way you are.

Yes. Way too involved in trying to ferret out every detail of your
life. Me, I'm just happy you met someone interesting and are enjoying
it.

I did look up a bunch of Dhal/Dal and other things using lentils. I
have to sort them a bit to post what seems most related to what you may
find useful.

Julie Bove wrote:

>
> " > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Friday, December 25, 2020 at 8:50:29 PM UTC-5,
> > wrote:
> > > Yes, I will research this online.
> >
> > Etc.
> >
> > And I thought, "Cool! I know quite a bit about Tanzanian cuisine,
> > including home-cooking, street/fast, and restaurant food. Personal
> > experiences. I'll be happy to share what I know and I look forward
> > to a discussion about it!"
> >
> > But of course, this being RFC in 2020, the thread immediately took
> > a dive into the sewer and stayed there.
> >
> > Jesus F'ing Christ, people.
> >
> > -- Silvar Beitel
>
> I would appreciate the discussion. I know there used to be an African
> poster here. Carol? I think. Haven't seen a post from her in a while.

I remember one too, but not the name of the person. Maybe it was
Silver?