On such a pouring rain day I thought to grind beef for burgers... made
up eight 12 ounce burgers/ground steaks, four to a gallon zip-loc, and
popped in the freezer. This was from lovely roasts, no mystery meat
here. Often we share one, probably will tomorrow... the turkey is
gone.
Damn it's raining hard, the creek in front is at it's limit, we're
hoping the French drain doesn't back up into the basement...
occasionally it does and then after the water drains we have silt to
vacuum. Everything is up off the basement floor, on steel shelves and
the fridge is up on cement blocks, as are the cat litter pans... they
know to walk on cement blocks to get to their litter pans... the pans
are up on cement blocks too or they will float. We learned how to
deal with it. Even Dish TV went out for a half hour from the heavy
rain.

On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 5:16:01 PM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
>
> On such a pouring rain day I thought to grind beef for burgers... made
> up eight 12 ounce burgers/ground steaks, four to a gallon zip-loc, and
> popped in the freezer. This was from lovely roasts, no mystery meat
> here. Often we share one, probably will tomorrow... the turkey is
> gone.
> Damn it's raining hard, the creek in front is at it's limit, we're
> hoping the French drain doesn't back up into the basement...
> occasionally it does and then after the water drains we have silt to
> vacuum. Everything is up off the basement floor, on steel shelves and
> the fridge is up on cement blocks, as are the cat litter pans... they
> know to walk on cement blocks to get to their litter pans... the pans
> are up on cement blocks too or they will float. We learned how to
> deal with it. Even Dish TV went out for a half hour from the heavy
> rain.
>
Nothing as drastic as that going on here, just snow showers ALL day long.
Down to 27° here tonight and rather windy most of the day. BRRRRRRRRR

On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 15:41:43 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 5:16:01 PM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
>>
>> On such a pouring rain day I thought to grind beef for burgers... made
>> up eight 12 ounce burgers/ground steaks, four to a gallon zip-loc, and
>> popped in the freezer. This was from lovely roasts, no mystery meat
>> here. Often we share one, probably will tomorrow... the turkey is
>> gone.
>> Damn it's raining hard, the creek in front is at it's limit, we're
>> hoping the French drain doesn't back up into the basement...
>> occasionally it does and then after the water drains we have silt to
>> vacuum. Everything is up off the basement floor, on steel shelves and
>> the fridge is up on cement blocks, as are the cat litter pans... they
>> know to walk on cement blocks to get to their litter pans... the pans
>> are up on cement blocks too or they will float. We learned how to
>> deal with it. Even Dish TV went out for a half hour from the heavy
>> rain.
>>
>Nothing as drastic as that going on here, just snow showers ALL day long.
>Down to 27° here tonight and rather windy most of the day. BRRRRRRRRR

I don't know where you are but be thankful that you don't have much
snow. I'm sure the snow will be arriving here shortly, we get heavy
snows in the northern Catskills. I'm all ready with the plow mounted
on the tractor, but still I'm not looking forward to having to plow
snow for several hours. We're having an exceptionally warm spell here
for this time of year, it's 54º here now, won't be long before it's in
the 20s and lower. Stay warm.

On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 6:10:19 PM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
>
> I don't know where you are but be thankful that you don't have much
> snow.
>
Tennessee

On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 "itsjoannotjoann" wrote:

>On Monday, November 30, 2020 Sheldon wrote:
>>
>> I don't know where you are but be thankful that you don't have much
>> snow.

The Northern Catskills gets snow by the foot. We don't mind, I have a
great snow plow and my wife loves downhill skiing. Mostly I plow so
the feral cats can get to food and water.

Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 "itsjoannotjoann" wrote:
>
>> On Monday, November 30, 2020 Sheldon wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't know where you are but be thankful that you don't have much
>>> snow.
>
> The Northern Catskills gets snow by the foot. We don't mind, I have a
> great snow plow and my wife loves downhill skiing. Mostly I plow so
> the feral cats can get to food and water.
>

Yoose have the finest snowplow in the universe Popeye!

On Tuesday, December 1, 2020 at 2:02:36 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 "itsjoannotjoann" wrote:
> >On Monday, November 30, 2020 Sheldon wrote:
> >>
> >> I don't know where you are but be thankful that you don't have much
> >> snow.
>
> The Northern Catskills gets snow by the foot. We don't mind, I have a
> great snow plow and my wife loves downhill skiing. Mostly I plow so
> the feral cats can get to food and water.

I always thought that skiing was dangerous. Anyway, find a roof to get under so you can grill those burgers and throw a tomato and onion briefly on the grill before you slice an dice it. The buns will probably be better oven warmed.

On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 18:48:16 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 6:10:19 PM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
>>
>> I don't know where you are but be thankful that you don't have much
>> snow.
>>
>Tennessee

I don't think Tennesseee gets any snow... mostly you get moon shine.

On Tuesday, December 1, 2020 at 1:17:38 PM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
>
> I don't think Tennesseee gets any snow... mostly you get moon shine.
>
We got a 'skiff' of snow yesterday but it was terribly windy, too. Of course,
that made it feel much colder than it actually was. They get more snow to
the east of me in the higher elevations such as Gatlinburg.

Sheldon Martin wrote:

> On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 18:48:16 -0800 (PST), "
> > wrote:
>
> > On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 6:10:19 PM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
> > >
> >> I don't know where you are but be thankful that you don't have
> much >> snow.
> > >
> > Tennessee
>
> I don't think Tennesseee gets any snow... mostly you get moon shine.

Yes Sheldon they do. Mountain area.

wrote:

> On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 5:16:01 PM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
> >
> > On such a pouring rain day I thought to grind beef for burgers...
> > made up eight 12 ounce burgers/ground steaks, four to a gallon
> > zip-loc, and popped in the freezer. This was from lovely roasts, no
> > mystery meat here. Often we share one, probably will tomorrow...
> > the turkey is gone.
> > Damn it's raining hard, the creek in front is at it's limit, we're
> > hoping the French drain doesn't back up into the basement...
> > occasionally it does and then after the water drains we have silt
> > to vacuum. Everything is up off the basement floor, on steel
> > shelves and the fridge is up on cement blocks, as are the cat
> > litter pans... they know to walk on cement blocks to get to their
> > litter pans... the pans are up on cement blocks too or they will
> > float. We learned how to deal with it. Even Dish TV went out for a
> > half hour from the heavy rain.
> >
> Nothing as drastic as that going on here, just snow showers ALL day
> long. Down to 27° here tonight and rather windy most of the day.
> BRRRRRRRRR

I'm hearing about it all. We are well south of it all but even here,
it's colder than normal. We almost lit the fireplace for the first
time this year. That was the low point though and we will wait as
normal for real cold to arrive. It's when daytime averages in the 30's
that we start the fireplace.

Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On such a pouring rain day I thought to grind beef for burgers... made
> up eight 12 ounce burgers/ground steaks, four to a gallon zip-loc, and
> popped in the freezer. This was from lovely roasts, no mystery meat
> here. Often we share one, probably will tomorrow... the turkey is
> gone.
> Damn it's raining hard, the creek in front is at it's limit, we're
> hoping the French drain doesn't back up into the basement...
> occasionally it does and then after the water drains we have silt to
> vacuum. Everything is up off the basement floor, on steel shelves and
> the fridge is up on cement blocks, as are the cat litter pans... they
> know to walk on cement blocks to get to their litter pans... the pans
> are up on cement blocks too or they will float. We learned how to
> deal with it. Even Dish TV went out for a half hour from the heavy
> rain.
>

Will yoose have to move the goats out of the basement Popeye?

On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 1:16:01 PM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
> On such a pouring rain day I thought to grind beef for burgers... made
> up eight 12 ounce burgers/ground steaks, four to a gallon zip-loc, and
> popped in the freezer. This was from lovely roasts, no mystery meat
> here. Often we share one, probably will tomorrow... the turkey is
> gone.
> Damn it's raining hard, the creek in front is at it's limit, we're
> hoping the French drain doesn't back up into the basement...
> occasionally it does and then after the water drains we have silt to
> vacuum. Everything is up off the basement floor, on steel shelves and
> the fridge is up on cement blocks, as are the cat litter pans... they
> know to walk on cement blocks to get to their litter pans... the pans
> are up on cement blocks too or they will float. We learned how to
> deal with it. Even Dish TV went out for a half hour from the heavy
> rain.
I had a teriyaki burger yesterday. It was okay although I ate the whole thing. I usually can't eat a whole burger so I must have been pretty hungry.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/C84mWQDMRWNFpVLJ7

On Wednesday, December 2, 2020 at 5:04:58 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 1:16:01 PM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
> > On such a pouring rain day I thought to grind beef for burgers... made
> > up eight 12 ounce burgers/ground steaks, four to a gallon zip-loc, and
> > popped in the freezer. This was from lovely roasts, no mystery meat
> > here. Often we share one, probably will tomorrow... the turkey is
> > gone.
> > Damn it's raining hard, the creek in front is at it's limit, we're
> > hoping the French drain doesn't back up into the basement...
> > occasionally it does and then after the water drains we have silt to
> > vacuum. Everything is up off the basement floor, on steel shelves and
> > the fridge is up on cement blocks, as are the cat litter pans... they
> > know to walk on cement blocks to get to their litter pans... the pans
> > are up on cement blocks too or they will float. We learned how to
> > deal with it. Even Dish TV went out for a half hour from the heavy
> > rain.
> I had a teriyaki burger yesterday. It was okay although I ate the whole thing. I usually can't eat a whole burger so I must have been pretty hungry.
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/C84mWQDMRWNFpVLJ7


I could eat eggrolls forever.

--
Best
Greg

On Wednesday, December 2, 2020 at 6:04:58 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 1:16:01 PM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
> > On such a pouring rain day I thought to grind beef for burgers... made
> > up eight 12 ounce burgers/ground steaks, four to a gallon zip-loc, and
> > popped in the freezer. This was from lovely roasts, no mystery meat
> > here. Often we share one, probably will tomorrow... the turkey is
> > gone.
> > Damn it's raining hard, the creek in front is at it's limit, we're
> > hoping the French drain doesn't back up into the basement...
> > occasionally it does and then after the water drains we have silt to
> > vacuum. Everything is up off the basement floor, on steel shelves and
> > the fridge is up on cement blocks, as are the cat litter pans... they
> > know to walk on cement blocks to get to their litter pans... the pans
> > are up on cement blocks too or they will float. We learned how to
> > deal with it. Even Dish TV went out for a half hour from the heavy
> > rain.
> I had a teriyaki burger yesterday. It was okay although I ate the whole thing. I usually can't eat a whole burger so I must have been pretty hungry.
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/C84mWQDMRWNFpVLJ7

I hear that japanese wagyu beef burgers are expensive there in Hawai'i.

On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 6:11:06 AM UTC-10, Transition Zone wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 2, 2020 at 6:04:58 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 1:16:01 PM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
> > > On such a pouring rain day I thought to grind beef for burgers... made
> > > up eight 12 ounce burgers/ground steaks, four to a gallon zip-loc, and
> > > popped in the freezer. This was from lovely roasts, no mystery meat
> > > here. Often we share one, probably will tomorrow... the turkey is
> > > gone.
> > > Damn it's raining hard, the creek in front is at it's limit, we're
> > > hoping the French drain doesn't back up into the basement...
> > > occasionally it does and then after the water drains we have silt to
> > > vacuum. Everything is up off the basement floor, on steel shelves and
> > > the fridge is up on cement blocks, as are the cat litter pans... they
> > > know to walk on cement blocks to get to their litter pans... the pans
> > > are up on cement blocks too or they will float. We learned how to
> > > deal with it. Even Dish TV went out for a half hour from the heavy
> > > rain.
> > I had a teriyaki burger yesterday. It was okay although I ate the whole thing. I usually can't eat a whole burger so I must have been pretty hungry.
> >
> > https://photos.app.goo.gl/C84mWQDMRWNFpVLJ7
> I hear that japanese wagyu beef burgers are expensive there in Hawai'i.
They probably are. I've never had one but that's because it's mostly a marketing strategy of some sort. Last night I made the dreaded turkey meatloaf and served it with the dreaded creamed kale. I don't care for either but felt the need to move it out from the refrigerator. My wife said it was the best meatloaf ever. I thought to myself "oh no!" A whole can of corn was added to improve the texture and the whole thing was coated with fried onions. I liked how it didn't come out of the oven in a pool of grease. A turkey meatloaf has almost zero fat.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/3Q7XFY7YZqeEwpfNA

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 6:11:06 AM UTC-10, Transition Zone wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 2, 2020 at 6:04:58 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 1:16:01 PM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
> > > On such a pouring rain day I thought to grind beef for burgers... made
> > > up eight 12 ounce burgers/ground steaks, four to a gallon zip-loc, and
> > > popped in the freezer. This was from lovely roasts, no mystery meat
> > > here. Often we share one, probably will tomorrow... the turkey is
> > > gone.
> > > Damn it's raining hard, the creek in front is at it's limit, we're
> > > hoping the French drain doesn't back up into the basement...
> > > occasionally it does and then after the water drains we have silt to
> > > vacuum. Everything is up off the basement floor, on steel shelves and
> > > the fridge is up on cement blocks, as are the cat litter pans... they
> > > know to walk on cement blocks to get to their litter pans... the pans
> > > are up on cement blocks too or they will float. We learned how to
> > > deal with it. Even Dish TV went out for a half hour from the heavy
> > > rain.
> > I had a teriyaki burger yesterday. It was okay although I ate the whole
> > thing. I usually can't eat a whole burger so I must have been pretty
> > hungry.
> >
> > https://photos.app.goo.gl/C84mWQDMRWNFpVLJ7
> I hear that japanese wagyu beef burgers are expensive there in Hawai'i.
They probably are. I've never had one but that's because it's mostly a
marketing strategy of some sort. Last night I made the dreaded turkey
meatloaf and served it with the dreaded creamed kale. I don't care for
either but felt the need to move it out from the refrigerator. My wife said
it was the best meatloaf ever. I thought to myself "oh no!" A whole can of
corn was added to improve the texture and the whole thing was coated with
fried onions. I liked how it didn't come out of the oven in a pool of
grease. A turkey meatloaf has almost zero fat.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/3Q7XFY7YZqeEwpfNA

=====

If your wife said it was the best meatloaf ever .. who are you to
disagree??? <g>

dsi1 wrote:

> On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 6:11:06 AM UTC-10, Transition Zone
> wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 2, 2020 at 6:04:58 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > > On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 1:16:01 PM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
> > > > On such a pouring rain day I thought to grind beef for
> > > > burgers... made up eight 12 ounce burgers/ground steaks, four
> > > > to a gallon zip-loc, and popped in the freezer. This was from
> > > > lovely roasts, no mystery meat here. Often we share one,
> > > > probably will tomorrow... the turkey is gone.
> > > > Damn it's raining hard, the creek in front is at it's limit,
> > > > we're hoping the French drain doesn't back up into the
> > > > basement... occasionally it does and then after the water
> > > > drains we have silt to vacuum. Everything is up off the
> > > > basement floor, on steel shelves and the fridge is up on cement
> > > > blocks, as are the cat litter pans... they know to walk on
> > > > cement blocks to get to their litter pans... the pans are up on
> > > > cement blocks too or they will float. We learned how to deal
> > > > with it. Even Dish TV went out for a half hour from the heavy
> > > > rain.
> > > I had a teriyaki burger yesterday. It was okay although I ate the
> > > whole thing. I usually can't eat a whole burger so I must have
> > > been pretty hungry.
> > >
> > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/C84mWQDMRWNFpVLJ7
> > I hear that japanese wagyu beef burgers are expensive there in
> > Hawai'i.
> They probably are. I've never had one but that's because it's mostly
> a marketing strategy of some sort. Last night I made the dreaded
> turkey meatloaf and served it with the dreaded creamed kale. I don't
> care for either but felt the need to move it out from the
> refrigerator. My wife said it was the best meatloaf ever. I thought
> to myself "oh no!" A whole can of corn was added to improve the
> texture and the whole thing was coated with fried onions. I liked how
> it didn't come out of the oven in a pool of grease. A turkey meatloaf
> has almost zero fat.
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/3Q7XFY7YZqeEwpfNA

Better you than me!

I dislike Kale. Not fond of turkey and zero fat meatloaf has no
appeal... Sorry. Normally I love your meals but I'd have a PB&J that
time!

On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 3:01:42 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 6:11:06 AM UTC-10, Transition Zone
> > wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, December 2, 2020 at 6:04:58 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 1:16:01 PM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
> > > > > On such a pouring rain day I thought to grind beef for
> > > > > burgers... made up eight 12 ounce burgers/ground steaks, four
> > > > > to a gallon zip-loc, and popped in the freezer. This was from
> > > > > lovely roasts, no mystery meat here. Often we share one,
> > > > > probably will tomorrow... the turkey is gone.
> > > > > Damn it's raining hard, the creek in front is at it's limit,
> > > > > we're hoping the French drain doesn't back up into the
> > > > > basement... occasionally it does and then after the water
> > > > > drains we have silt to vacuum. Everything is up off the
> > > > > basement floor, on steel shelves and the fridge is up on cement
> > > > > blocks, as are the cat litter pans... they know to walk on
> > > > > cement blocks to get to their litter pans... the pans are up on
> > > > > cement blocks too or they will float. We learned how to deal
> > > > > with it. Even Dish TV went out for a half hour from the heavy
> > > > > rain.
> > > > I had a teriyaki burger yesterday. It was okay although I ate the
> > > > whole thing. I usually can't eat a whole burger so I must have
> > > > been pretty hungry.
> > > >
> > > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/C84mWQDMRWNFpVLJ7
> > > I hear that japanese wagyu beef burgers are expensive there in
> > > Hawai'i.
> > They probably are. I've never had one but that's because it's mostly
> > a marketing strategy of some sort. Last night I made the dreaded
> > turkey meatloaf and served it with the dreaded creamed kale. I don't
> > care for either but felt the need to move it out from the
> > refrigerator. My wife said it was the best meatloaf ever. I thought
> > to myself "oh no!" A whole can of corn was added to improve the
> > texture and the whole thing was coated with fried onions. I liked how
> > it didn't come out of the oven in a pool of grease. A turkey meatloaf
> > has almost zero fat.
> >
> > https://photos.app.goo.gl/3Q7XFY7YZqeEwpfNA
> Better you than me!
>
> I dislike Kale. Not fond of turkey and zero fat meatloaf has no
> appeal... Sorry. Normally I love your meals but I'd have a PB&J that
> time!
I don't like kale or ground turkey either. OTOH, getting ground turkey to be eatable is certainly a challenge. My guess is that I'm up to the challenge and can make ground turkey that looks and tastes like beef. I'll bet that I can make kale taste like luau leaves. That would be just awesome.

On 12/3/2020 8:01 PM, cshenk wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:

>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/3Q7XFY7YZqeEwpfNA
>
> Better you than me!
>
> I dislike Kale. Not fond of turkey and zero fat meatloaf has no
> appeal... Sorry. Normally I love your meals but I'd have a PB&J that
> time!
>

Only way to use ground turkey is to mix one part turkey to 4 parts pork.
I made sausage like that and it was good. No interest in turkey
meatloaf.

writes:
>On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 6:11:06 AM UTC-10, Transition Zone wrote:
>> On Wednesday, December 2, 2020 at 6:04:58 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>> > On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 1:16:01 PM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
>> > > On such a pouring rain day I thought to grind beef for burgers... made
>> > > up eight 12 ounce burgers/ground steaks, four to a gallon zip-loc, and
>> > > popped in the freezer. This was from lovely roasts, no mystery meat
>> > > here. Often we share one, probably will tomorrow... the turkey is
>> > > gone.
>> > > Damn it's raining hard, the creek in front is at it's limit, we're
>> > > hoping the French drain doesn't back up into the basement...
>> > > occasionally it does and then after the water drains we have silt to
>> > > vacuum. Everything is up off the basement floor, on steel shelves and
>> > > the fridge is up on cement blocks, as are the cat litter pans... they
>> > > know to walk on cement blocks to get to their litter pans... the pans
>> > > are up on cement blocks too or they will float. We learned how to
>> > > deal with it. Even Dish TV went out for a half hour from the heavy
>> > > rain.
>> > I had a teriyaki burger yesterday. It was okay although I ate the
>whole thing. I usually can't eat a whole burger so I must have been
>pretty hungry.
>> >
>> > https://photos.app.goo.gl/C84mWQDMRWNFpVLJ7
>> I hear that japanese wagyu beef burgers are expensive there in Hawai'i.
>They probably are. I've never had one but that's because it's mostly a
>marketing strategy of some sort. Last night I made the dreaded turkey
>meatloaf and served it with the dreaded creamed kale. I don't care for
>either but felt the need to move it out from the refrigerator. My wife
>said it was the best meatloaf ever. I thought to myself "oh no!" A whole
>can of corn was added to improve the texture and the whole thing was
>coated with fried onions. I liked how it didn't come out of the oven in
>a pool of grease. A turkey meatloaf has almost zero fat.
>
>https://photos.app.goo.gl/3Q7XFY7YZqeEwpfNA

"Turkey can never beat cow, Chris. Sorry." -Ron Swanson

https://youtu.be/Q84nfWkLsYU?t=56