On 10/31/2020 10:58 AM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 19:33:39 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> > wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 6:41:56 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 10/29/2020 4:52 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 19:58:48 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've been getting such HUGE cantaloupes I split my Fruit Snacks in half and eat one half fresh and put the other half in the fridge.
>>>>>
>>>>> I gently warm the refrigerated half on my microwave's "Time Defrost" setting for 30mins set to "Power Level" 1.
>>>>
>>>> Who the hell microwaves cantaloupes? Or wants warm cantaloupe?
>>>>
>>> You get one guess and that doesn't count.
>>>
>>> It would be different if he was baking some sort of fruit tarts or
>>> making a cobbler to top with ice cream. Heated up cantaloupe? YUK.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> I didn't say I was BAKING them, I was warming them from refrigerator to room temp. as I'm about to do with a spoiling cantaloupe I put in the refrigerator earlier this evening. I may compost 1/2 and buy a new one tomorrow.
>>
>> John Kuthe...
>
> Why is it in your fridge... only if cut open does it need
> refrigeration. Melons live in the hot sun all growing season.
> Once harvested keep it on your kitchen counter for up to 48 hours.
> Melons do not ripen further once harvested... what you think you
> smell as ripeness is the odor of fermentation/rot.

Likely. Do keep in mind there's a slightly longer growing season where
he lives but still... He puts them in the refrigerator because he's
buying it thinking "How nice and ripe!" right before it spoils. He said
so: "as I'm about to do with a spoiling cantaloupe I put in the
refrigerator earlier this evening. I may compost 1/2 and buy a new one
tomorrow." (compost the whole thing)

He's either buying already spoiling fruit or he is buying far too many
than he can consume before they spoil (even with refrigeration). It
appears he's eating cantaloupe every day. He tends to get into food
ruts. Not that long ago he was constantly posting about mangos. Can you
say fruit of the month?

Jill

On Friday, October 30, 2020 at 8:02:45 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> John Kuthe wrote:
> >
> > Bryan Simmons wrote:
> > > Hot dogs are not raw. You can't "cook a hot dog in a microwave,"
> > > because they're already cooked.
> >
> > Better to boil them in a saucepan! Then when the water turns
> > pink you can make Weenie Water Gravy! ;-)
> My brother in law once lived with roommates.
> One morning he went into the kitchen to make a cup of
> instant coffee (as usual)
>
> He found a saucepan of water on the stove so he just heated
> it up and made his coffee.
>
> It was a morning shock to him. lol
> Turned out it was "hot dog water" left on the stove from
> the night before.

To make Weenie Water Gravy, you reduce the hot dog water, then add
corn starch and a little milk. I'm not saying that anyone *should* make
it.

--Bryan

On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 09:01:15 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Bryan Simmons wrote:
>> Hot dogs are not raw. You can't "cook a hot dog in a microwave,"
>> because they're already cooked.
>
>You can overcook one in a microwave.
>
>No doubt Sheldon's hotdogs are raw. He'll grind his own
>beef, spice it, mush it, then it should be cooked.

Long ago I attempted making hotdogs, not worth the time and effort.
Hot dogs need to be smoked, not worth it for just a few. There's a
huge selection of good hotdogs one can buy at most any supermarket. I
like Sabrett all beef, especially when in a natural casing, hard to
find and expensive. The worst hotdog has to be Hebrew National. There
were some much better brands of kosher hotdogs; Shofar was one but
they are no more. There aren't many commercially made kosher hotdogs
anymore, there's no longer a big enough market to keep all the brands
afloat. Jews who keep strictly kosher buy hotdogs from their kosher
butcher as most kosher butcher shops make their own... and Jews who
keep strictly kosher won't buy Hebrew National because in markets they
are not kept apart from non-kosher meats. . .there does exist mystery
meat kosher too.
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/i...94358AAT0 d4l
I'm not a big hotdog eater, when I indulge Sabrett works for me. There
was once uncountable kosher delis in the large cities but no more, in
all of NYC one would be lucky to find a half dozen today. There are
also a handful of kosher-style delis... Katz's Deli in NYC is
kosher-style. Most all real kosher delis were shut down by the health
department, Appys too, their 5,000 year old preparation prossesses
can't pass modern health codes.

On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 09:02:14 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>John Kuthe wrote:
>>
>> Bryan Simmons wrote:
>> > Hot dogs are not raw. You can't "cook a hot dog in a microwave,"
>> > because they're already cooked.
>>
>> Better to boil them in a saucepan! Then when the water turns
>> pink you can make Weenie Water Gravy! ;-)
>
>My brother in law once lived with roommates.
>One morning he went into the kitchen to make a cup of
>instant coffee (as usual)
>
>He found a saucepan of water on the stove so he just heated
>it up and made his coffee.
>
>It was a morning shock to him. lol
>Turned out it was "hot dog water" left on the stove from
>the night before.

When I do eat hotdogs I simmer them for about a half hour, you'd be
shocked at how much fat and colorant is leached out. I'll eat a
couple of hot dogs maybe once, twice
a year.

On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 07:52:55 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 19:41:48 -0400, jmcquown >
>wrote:
>
>>On 10/29/2020 4:52 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>> On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 19:58:48 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've been getting such HUGE cantaloupes I split my Fruit Snacks in half and eat one half fresh and put the other half in the fridge.
>>>>
>>>> I gently warm the refrigerated half on my microwave's "Time Defrost" setting for 30mins set to "Power Level" 1.
>>>
>>> Who the hell microwaves cantaloupes? Or wants warm cantaloupe?
>>>
>>You get one guess and that doesn't count.
>
>Yep
>
>>It would be different if he was baking some sort of fruit tarts or
>>making a cobbler to top with ice cream. Heated up cantaloupe? YUK.
>
>In this house, even in winter, any fruit kept in the fridge doesn't
>get 'warmed up' in a microwave. How bloody soft do you need to be to
>be traumatised by chilled fruit?

My wife doesn't like chilled fruit. She grew up in Belize and hardly
anyone had a refrigerator back then. In summer room temperature there
can be over 90ºF. Everyone there ate tropical fruit, many items you
won't see in US markets.

On Saturday, October 31, 2020 at 12:24:39 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
....
> My wife doesn't like chilled fruit. She grew up in Belize and hardly
> anyone had a refrigerator back then. In summer room temperature there
> can be over 90ÅŸF. Everyone there ate tropical fruit, many items you
> won't see in US markets.

Yep, me too! I prefer NOT my fruit be chilled for eating, hence my application of 30min on Defrost setting 1 with my Micro Wave for my refrigerated fruit!

John Kuthe...

On 10/31/2020 1:30 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Saturday, October 31, 2020 at 12:24:39 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> ...
>> My wife doesn't like chilled fruit. She grew up in Belize and hardly
>> anyone had a refrigerator back then. In summer room temperature there
>> can be over 90ÅŸF. Everyone there ate tropical fruit, many items you
>> won't see in US markets.
>
> Yep, me too! I prefer NOT my fruit be chilled for eating, hence my application of 30min on Defrost setting 1 with my Micro Wave for my refrigerated fruit!
>
> John Kuthe...
>
This is like watching a very slow ping pong ball match.

Jill

Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 07:52:55 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 19:41:48 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/29/2020 4:52 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 19:58:48 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've been getting such HUGE cantaloupes I split my Fruit Snacks in half and eat one half fresh and put the other half in the fridge.
>>>>>
>>>>> I gently warm the refrigerated half on my microwave's "Time Defrost" setting for 30mins set to "Power Level" 1.
>>>>
>>>> Who the hell microwaves cantaloupes? Or wants warm cantaloupe?
>>>>
>>> You get one guess and that doesn't count.
>>
>> Yep
>>
>>> It would be different if he was baking some sort of fruit tarts or
>>> making a cobbler to top with ice cream. Heated up cantaloupe? YUK.
>>
>> In this house, even in winter, any fruit kept in the fridge doesn't
>> get 'warmed up' in a microwave. How bloody soft do you need to be to
>> be traumatised by chilled fruit?
>
> My wife doesn't like chilled fruit. She grew up in Belize and hardly
> anyone had a refrigerator back then. In summer room temperature there
> can be over 90ºF. Everyone there ate tropical fruit, many items you
> won't see in US markets.
>

I bet the old Honduran woman has enormous C cup titties Popeye!

John Kuthe wrote:
> On Saturday, October 31, 2020 at 12:24:39 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> ...
>> My wife doesn't like chilled fruit. She grew up in Belize and hardly
>> anyone had a refrigerator back then. In summer room temperature there
>> can be over 90ÅŸF. Everyone there ate tropical fruit, many items you
>> won't see in US markets.
>
> Yep, me too! I prefer NOT my fruit be chilled for eating, hence my application of 30min on Defrost setting 1 with my Micro Wave for my refrigerated fruit!
>
> John Kuthe...
>

If you could disable the safety interlocks on that microwave (you
are an EE), You could microwave your skull for 10 minutes, and
then, you would finally make sense kuth.

Wouldn't even need your seroquel or cannabis.

jmcquown wrote:
> On 10/31/2020 1:30 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>> On Saturday, October 31, 2020 at 12:24:39 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>> ...
>>> My wife doesn't like chilled fruit.Â* She grew up in Belize and
>>> hardly
>>> anyone had a refrigerator back then.Â* In summer room temperature
>>> there
>>> can be over 90ÅŸF.Â* Everyone there ate tropical fruit, many
>>> items you
>>> won't see in US markets.
>>
>> Yep, me too! I prefer NOT my fruit be chilled for eating, hence
>> my application of 30min on Defrost setting 1 with my Micro Wave
>> for my refrigerated fruit!
>>
>> John Kuthe...
>>
> This is like watching a very slow ping pong ball match.
>
> Jill

HAHAHAHA ... It's great!

On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 13:24:33 -0400, Sheldon Martin >
wrote:

>On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 07:52:55 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 19:41:48 -0400, jmcquown >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On 10/29/2020 4:52 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 19:58:48 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've been getting such HUGE cantaloupes I split my Fruit Snacks in half and eat one half fresh and put the other half in the fridge.
>>>>>
>>>>> I gently warm the refrigerated half on my microwave's "Time Defrost" setting for 30mins set to "Power Level" 1.
>>>>
>>>> Who the hell microwaves cantaloupes? Or wants warm cantaloupe?
>>>>
>>>You get one guess and that doesn't count.
>>
>>Yep
>>
>>>It would be different if he was baking some sort of fruit tarts or
>>>making a cobbler to top with ice cream. Heated up cantaloupe? YUK.
>>
>>In this house, even in winter, any fruit kept in the fridge doesn't
>>get 'warmed up' in a microwave. How bloody soft do you need to be to
>>be traumatised by chilled fruit?
>
>My wife doesn't like chilled fruit. She grew up in Belize and hardly
>anyone had a refrigerator back then. In summer room temperature there
>can be over 90ºF. Everyone there ate tropical fruit, many items you
>won't see in US markets.

Yep, well many other people have a similar past. But I don't know a
single Thai (for example) that warms their fruit though. Most normal
people would simply take the fruit out of the fridge in advance if
this is a problem for them.

I prefer mangoes not too cold, as they lose some smell and taste when
cold... but not once has it bothered me to the point where I thought
about artificially heating mangoes.

On Mon, 02 Nov 2020 05:37:03 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 13:24:33 -0400, Sheldon Martin >
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 07:52:55 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 19:41:48 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 10/29/2020 4:52 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 19:58:48 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been getting such HUGE cantaloupes I split my Fruit Snacks in half and eat one half fresh and put the other half in the fridge.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I gently warm the refrigerated half on my microwave's "Time Defrost" setting for 30mins set to "Power Level" 1.
>>>>>
>>>>> Who the hell microwaves cantaloupes? Or wants warm cantaloupe?
>>>>>
>>>>You get one guess and that doesn't count.
>>>
>>>Yep
>>>
>>>>It would be different if he was baking some sort of fruit tarts or
>>>>making a cobbler to top with ice cream. Heated up cantaloupe? YUK.
>>>
>>>In this house, even in winter, any fruit kept in the fridge doesn't
>>>get 'warmed up' in a microwave. How bloody soft do you need to be to
>>>be traumatised by chilled fruit?
>>
>>My wife doesn't like chilled fruit. She grew up in Belize and hardly
>>anyone had a refrigerator back then. In summer room temperature there
>>can be over 90ºF. Everyone there ate tropical fruit, many items you
>>won't see in US markets.
>
>Yep, well many other people have a similar past. But I don't know a
>single Thai (for example) that warms their fruit though. Most normal
>people would simply take the fruit out of the fridge in advance if
>this is a problem for them.
>
>I prefer mangoes not too cold, as they lose some smell and taste when
>cold... but not once has it bothered me to the point where I thought
>about artificially heating mangoes.

I prefer my fruit chilled so I keep mine in the fridge. My wife
prefers her fruit at room temperature so she keeps hers on the kitchen
counter in a basket.
Lots of fruit plentiful in Belize is not available in the US, and my
wife has odd names for some Belize produce, she likes a soft plum like
fruit that she knows as "stinky toe", it smells of unwashed feet but
she says it tastes delicious. She also likes cashew fruit, I find it
too tart and astringent, but I like cashew fruit wine. One common
fruit she detests is banana, grows all over Belize so she tired of it
long ago... her father kept a whole stalk of bananas hanging under the
house... many houses there are built up on pilings in case of
hurricanes so water flowed under the house. The Belize diet consists
mainly of seafood, the barrier reef of Belize, second largest on the
planet, supplies excellent seafood. They raise cattle but all grass
fed, you'd probably not like such lean beef.

On Sun, 01 Nov 2020 14:25:59 -0500, Sheldon Martin >
wrote:

>On Mon, 02 Nov 2020 05:37:03 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 13:24:33 -0400, Sheldon Martin >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 07:52:55 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 19:41:48 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 10/29/2020 4:52 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 19:58:48 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've been getting such HUGE cantaloupes I split my Fruit Snacks in half and eat one half fresh and put the other half in the fridge.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I gently warm the refrigerated half on my microwave's "Time Defrost" setting for 30mins set to "Power Level" 1.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who the hell microwaves cantaloupes? Or wants warm cantaloupe?
>>>>>>
>>>>>You get one guess and that doesn't count.
>>>>
>>>>Yep
>>>>
>>>>>It would be different if he was baking some sort of fruit tarts or
>>>>>making a cobbler to top with ice cream. Heated up cantaloupe? YUK.
>>>>
>>>>In this house, even in winter, any fruit kept in the fridge doesn't
>>>>get 'warmed up' in a microwave. How bloody soft do you need to be to
>>>>be traumatised by chilled fruit?
>>>
>>>My wife doesn't like chilled fruit. She grew up in Belize and hardly
>>>anyone had a refrigerator back then. In summer room temperature there
>>>can be over 90ºF. Everyone there ate tropical fruit, many items you
>>>won't see in US markets.
>>
>>Yep, well many other people have a similar past. But I don't know a
>>single Thai (for example) that warms their fruit though. Most normal
>>people would simply take the fruit out of the fridge in advance if
>>this is a problem for them.
>>
>>I prefer mangoes not too cold, as they lose some smell and taste when
>>cold... but not once has it bothered me to the point where I thought
>>about artificially heating mangoes.
>
>I prefer my fruit chilled so I keep mine in the fridge.

I do too, for most fruit.

> My wife
>prefers her fruit at room temperature so she keeps hers on the kitchen
>counter in a basket.

We mostly don't refrigerate fruit in Thailand, as we always buy small
quantities daily, in Australia it's a different situation as we don't
have easy access to markets where everything is fresh daily.

>Lots of fruit plentiful in Belize is not available in the US, and my
>wife has odd names for some Belize produce, she likes a soft plum like
>fruit that she knows as "stinky toe", it smells of unwashed feet but
>she says it tastes delicious. She also likes cashew fruit, I find it
>too tart and astringent,

Also slightly toxic...


>but I like cashew fruit wine. One common
>fruit she detests is banana, grows all over Belize so she tired of it
>long ago... her father kept a whole stalk of bananas hanging under the
>house... many houses there are built up on pilings in case of
>hurricanes so water flowed under the house. The Belize diet consists
>mainly of seafood, the barrier reef of Belize, second largest on the
>planet, supplies excellent seafood. They raise cattle but all grass
>fed, you'd probably not like such lean beef.

Like a lot of developing nations, Belize is great for fresh produce,
also produce that may not be overly bred varieties that just lack
character and good taste like is prevalent in the West.

On Tue, 03 Nov 2020 07:37:14 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:

>Like a lot of developing nations, Belize is great for fresh produce,
>also produce that may not be overly bred varieties that just lack
>character and good taste like is prevalent in the West.

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> On Tue, 03 Nov 2020 07:37:14 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>> Like a lot of developing nations, Belize is great for fresh produce,
>> also produce that may not be overly bred varieties that just lack
>> character and good taste like is prevalent in the West.
>
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On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 09:01:15 -0500, Gary wrote:

> Bryan Simmons wrote:
>> Hot dogs are not raw. You can't "cook a hot dog in a microwave,"
>> because they're already cooked.
>
> You can overcook one in a microwave.
>
> No doubt Sheldon's hotdogs are raw. He'll grind his own
> beef, spice it, mush it, then it should be cooked.

I'm sure he grinds his hot dog often trying to get it to work.

-sw