On Tuesday, August 25, 2020 at 9:52:38 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 25, 2020 at 3:34:33 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 25, 2020 at 9:22:21 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > > On Tue, 25 Aug 2020 11:56:34 -0700, Taxed and Spent
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >On 8/25/2020 11:53 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > >> On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 3:45:42 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> > > >>> U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 21:40:03 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> Bryan Simmons wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> On Sunday, August 23, 2020 at 7:47:45 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B.
> > > >>>> wrote: >> > On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 18:57:40 -0400, jmcquown
> > > >>>> > >> > wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> On 8/23/2020 1:10 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> > > >>>>>>>>> ...
> > > >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 20:47:08 -0400, songbird
> > > >>>>>>> > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> ...
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> when or if they'll be allowed to reopen. Many people are
> > > >>>>>>> starving >>>>> and the
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> regulations are leading to stupidity. Crops can't be picked
> > > >>>>>>> or >>>>> transported
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> so the food is rotting while people are starving. There
> > > >>>> will >> > be a >>>>> revolt
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> here. People are fed up!
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> i don't see anything in the news about anyone starving.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> around here they are saying they're going to harvest 22.5
> > > >>>>>>> million >>>> bushels of apples this year. pretty much the same
> > > >>>> as >> > last year.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> the previous trips to the store i didn't see many more
> > > >>>> skinny >> > >>>> people either. the usual chubby folks walking
> > > >>>> around buying >> > junk >>>> food.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> Ah yes, the fast food hippos!
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> I heard on the radio that people are treating this as a
> > > >>>> vacation >> > and on >> a vacation, all rules fly out the window..
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> What radio? If you're talking about people not being able to go
> > > >>>>>>>> to work, perhaps people are making the best of things working
> > > >>>>>>>> from home. They aren't starving. They aren't treating a
> > > >>>>>>>> pandemic like a vacation.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> This concept makes no sense to me. I hate eating crap food. it
> > > >>>>>>> makes me >> feel lousy, so I just don't eat it. I do get tacos
> > > >>>> from >> > time to time. >> No, not Taco Bell with their beef
> > > >>>> enhanced with >> > oats. Yick.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> No one is being forced to eat crappy food. Buy into Bruce's
> > > >>>> idea >> > > of a bunch of fat people eating crappy food and mention
> > > >>>> Taco Bell >> > > in the same breath, what does that say? I recall
> > > >>>> you mentioning >> > > buying nachos with cheese sauce when shopping
> > > >>>> at some place >> > > (Target? Walmart?) years ago. That's not
> > > >>>> healthy food yet you >> > > bought and ate it from whatever the place
> > > >>>> was waaaay before >> > > Covid-19 showed up.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> No wonder you didn't feel good if that's the kind of thing you
> > > >>>>>>>> ate every time you went shopping with Angela. You say you're
> > > >>>>>>>> exercising more now and losing weight. Good for you! Better
> > > >>>> for >> > > your diabetes and GERD and your overall health.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Jill
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> she listens to and buys into all the Right-Wing propaganda.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Women who are married to hardass, sexist men often adopt their
> > > >>>>>> politics and social views, and hang onto them even after they
> > > >>>> realize >> that the husbands were assholes, and get them out of their
> > > >>>> lives. My >> late sister, my much loved late sister, who was in
> > > >>>> every other way a >> great person, bought into that right-wing crap.
> > > >>>> All three of her >> offspring are progressives. The youngest, the
> > > >>>> only child of the >> right-wing asshole husband, is militant
> > > >>>> progressive to the point that >> he and I even have differences.
> > > >>>> He's a smart person, and a >> successful small business owner, but
> > > >>>> he's gung-ho anti Democratic >> Party establishment.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Janet US
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> --Bryan
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> You flip flop too much to follow here. Democrats are right wing..
> > > >>>>> Democrats are into 'how much free stuff can I get'. Most business
> > > >>>>> owners tend to republican leanings since they are more about the
> > > >>>>> economy and making a little bit of profit possible instead of free
> > > >>>>> handouts.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> So sorry, but Republicans are the right wing.
> > > >>>> Janet US
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Whoops! Sorry, yes.
> > > >>
> > > >> It's pretty confusing. Right wing means you're mostly motivated by fear. Fear of the future. Fear that possessions/freedoms/way of life that you have are going to be taken away from you.
> > > >
> > > >RIDICULOUS!
> > >
> > > He's right. Right-wing also means destroying the planet to make an
> > > extra buck.
> > The rich and powerful know that fear is a powerful motivator of the MAGA minions. They don't care about how many Mexicans cross the Rio Grande. What they care about is that the fear of Mexicans crossing the Rio Grande can be exploited to make a shitload of cash.
> >
> > https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/20/o...non-fraud.html
>
> Of course. If "they" really wanted to discourage illegal immigration, they'd go for the demand side rather than
> the supply side. Put a few meat-processing executives in prison and they'll magically find jobs for legal
> residents and turn away the illegals.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

Illegals will take jobs that Americans ain't interested in and they'll do it for lower pay. That's an attractive proposition for factory owners. All one has to do is to make the jobs a more attractive proposition for the workers. It'll probably involve higher overhead but that's just the breaks. It can be the new normal for the America of the future. No free ride for the consumer at the expense of the workers. If Americans want to have real meat instead of plant-based meat, they'll just have to pay for it.