On Tuesday, August 6, 2019 at 4:03:43 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>
> On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 09:13:46 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
> >One of my co-workers charged every single thing to his reward card and paid
> >it off monthly. He was able to accumulate enough air miles to fly round-trip
> >to Australia for free. Twice.
>
> I'd hate that. I also rarely go to Europe for that reason. 20 hours of
> pretending you're a sardine...
>
When he first shared how he was able to make the trip twice my first thought
was could I stand being in a plane for 20 straight hours? I'd probably be
twitching and drooling by the time it landed.

On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 15:44:20 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, August 6, 2019 at 4:03:43 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 09:13:46 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >One of my co-workers charged every single thing to his reward card and paid
>> >it off monthly. He was able to accumulate enough air miles to fly round-trip
>> >to Australia for free. Twice.
>>
>> I'd hate that. I also rarely go to Europe for that reason. 20 hours of
>> pretending you're a sardine...
>>
>When he first shared how he was able to make the trip twice my first thought
>was could I stand being in a plane for 20 straight hours? I'd probably be
>twitching and drooling by the time it landed.

You get a stop halfway, at least between AU and EU. With Japanese
Airlines, we got a complimentary overnight stay in an airport hotel.
That breaks the ordeal up nicely, but still.

On 2019-08-06, graham > wrote:

> The crooks had
> swapped out the pads in a number of stores.....

They hadda a "heads-up" mini-documentary on that very thing on one of
the major networks.

They sed debit/credit cards could even stolen from "swipe-a-card" gas
pumps. Never buy gas with credit/debit card if there is not a padlock
on the door on the pump. It takes all of 10 secs to swap out an
illegal "card reader" on most gas pumps.

nb

On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 15:41:14 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, August 6, 2019 at 4:01:07 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 09:20:24 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >It's a small ledger/register that you post checks written or debit card purchases in. I don't know what they are called in Scotland or Australia,
>> >but here's a picture.
>> >
>> >https://i.postimg.cc/vHHWjfjp/Check-register.jpg
>>
>> Is this for the older generation? I can't see a millennial do this. Or
>> me.
>>
>I don't have a clue since I am not a millennial. All I know is what works for
>me. I don't have to be inconvenienced when their system is down for the daily
>reconciliation or if my laptop wants to be a doorstop at that particular
>moment I want to check a balance.

Yes, I understand. I never really want to check any balances, except
to make sure there's money in our everyday account.

On Tuesday, August 6, 2019 at 5:39:04 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
>
> wrote:
>
> > I can't speak for others here, but my hams are coated with a thick
> > layer of brown sugar after studded. About 2 cups of apple juice is
> > added to the bottom of the pan and then tightly covered. Baste with
> > melted brown sugar and apple juice a few times while it's baking.
>
> Humm, interesting. Not my cuppa tea there but method is interesting to
> make the meat very sweet.
>
Actually, the ham is not sweet in the least. I've tried taking a sip or two
of the apple juice, brown sugar, cloves mixture after cooking thinking it
would really sweet, but it's not at all. It's a rather strong hammy taste
with no hint that apple juice and brown sugar had ever been in the pan.

I have an e-mail pal in California who cooks her hams with cola poured over
them. I don't know if she also uses brown sugar but she swears by her cooking
method.

On Tuesday, August 6, 2019 at 5:47:16 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>
> On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 15:44:20 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
> >> I'd hate that. I also rarely go to Europe for that reason. 20 hours of
> >> pretending you're a sardine...
> >>
> >When he first shared how he was able to make the trip twice my first thought
> >was could I stand being in a plane for 20 straight hours? I'd probably be
> >twitching and drooling by the time it landed.
>
> You get a stop halfway, at least between AU and EU. With Japanese
> Airlines, we got a complimentary overnight stay in an airport hotel.
> That breaks the ordeal up nicely, but still.
>
Ok! He didn't share that little tidbit. I'd probably be fine with that unless
there was a screaming kid (screaming for hours) or some loony-tune on the plane
that decided they needed fresh air or the pilots needed their help.

On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 16:01:24 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, August 6, 2019 at 5:47:16 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 15:44:20 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >> I'd hate that. I also rarely go to Europe for that reason. 20 hours of
>> >> pretending you're a sardine...
>> >>
>> >When he first shared how he was able to make the trip twice my first thought
>> >was could I stand being in a plane for 20 straight hours? I'd probably be
>> >twitching and drooling by the time it landed.
>>
>> You get a stop halfway, at least between AU and EU. With Japanese
>> Airlines, we got a complimentary overnight stay in an airport hotel.
>> That breaks the ordeal up nicely, but still.
>>
>Ok! He didn't share that little tidbit. I'd probably be fine with that unless
>there was a screaming kid (screaming for hours) or some loony-tune on the plane
>that decided they needed fresh air or the pilots needed their help.

Lol, yes.

Maybe US-AU is non-stop.

On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 15:44:20 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, August 6, 2019 at 4:03:43 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 09:13:46 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >One of my co-workers charged every single thing to his reward card and paid
>> >it off monthly. He was able to accumulate enough air miles to fly round-trip
>> >to Australia for free. Twice.
>>
>> I'd hate that. I also rarely go to Europe for that reason. 20 hours of
>> pretending you're a sardine...
>>
>When he first shared how he was able to make the trip twice my first thought
>was could I stand being in a plane for 20 straight hours? I'd probably be
>twitching and drooling by the time it landed.

My Oz cousins would like me to visit but I have told them it will
never happen, for just that reason.

On 6 Aug 2019 22:49:47 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2019-08-06, graham > wrote:
>
>> The crooks had
>> swapped out the pads in a number of stores.....
>
>They hadda a "heads-up" mini-documentary on that very thing on one of
>the major networks.
>
>They sed debit/credit cards could even stolen from "swipe-a-card" gas
>pumps. Never buy gas with credit/debit card if there is not a padlock
>on the door on the pump. It takes all of 10 secs to swap out an
>illegal "card reader" on most gas pumps.
>
>nb

You'd have to be pretty dumb not to spot it nb!

On 2019-08-06 6:44 p.m., wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 6, 2019 at 4:03:43 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:

>> I'd hate that. I also rarely go to Europe for that reason. 20 hours
>> of pretending you're a sardine...
>>
> When he first shared how he was able to make the trip twice my first
> thought was could I stand being in a plane for 20 straight hours?
> I'd probably be twitching and drooling by the time it landed.
>


I have two friends who went to New Zealand last winter. One is rather
frugal and went coach. The other is a retired airline pilot and one of
his retirement perks is an fantastic discount on a flight once a year.
Since his daughter lives in NZ. Last year he flew from Toronto to
Vancouver,to Perth and on to Aukland. His total airfare for him and his
wife was under $400, and that included individual pods. The guy who went
coach had briefly considered a pod until he heard the cost... $1500.

On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 16:01:24 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, August 6, 2019 at 5:47:16 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 15:44:20 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >> I'd hate that. I also rarely go to Europe for that reason. 20 hours of
>> >> pretending you're a sardine...
>> >>
>> >When he first shared how he was able to make the trip twice my first thought
>> >was could I stand being in a plane for 20 straight hours? I'd probably be
>> >twitching and drooling by the time it landed.
>>
>> You get a stop halfway, at least between AU and EU. With Japanese
>> Airlines, we got a complimentary overnight stay in an airport hotel.
>> That breaks the ordeal up nicely, but still.
>>
>Ok! He didn't share that little tidbit. I'd probably be fine with that unless
>there was a screaming kid (screaming for hours) or some loony-tune on the plane
>that decided they needed fresh air or the pilots needed their help.

I had one of those (kids) on a flight to the UK. She was about 3, her
parents had never said no to her and suddenly they had to when they
were told to keep her in her seat (behind me) and not let her run all
over the 'plane getting in the way. She screamed herself to sleep and
started screaming all over again as we were heading to Heathrow. There
was a young student next to me heading to Cambridge. When we were
queued to deplane, he remarked to me how awful the kid had been and I
said to him 'always remember this night and wear a condom' - we parted
on a good laugh, the parents behind us were 'not amused'.

On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 19:10:01 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2019-08-06 6:44 p.m., wrote:
>> On Tuesday, August 6, 2019 at 4:03:43 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>
>>> I'd hate that. I also rarely go to Europe for that reason. 20 hours
>>> of pretending you're a sardine...
>>>
>> When he first shared how he was able to make the trip twice my first
>> thought was could I stand being in a plane for 20 straight hours?
>> I'd probably be twitching and drooling by the time it landed.
>>
>
>
>I have two friends who went to New Zealand last winter. One is rather
>frugal and went coach. The other is a retired airline pilot and one of
>his retirement perks is an fantastic discount on a flight once a year.
>Since his daughter lives in NZ. Last year he flew from Toronto to
>Vancouver,to Perth and on to Aukland. His total airfare for him and his
>wife was under $400, and that included individual pods. The guy who went
>coach had briefly considered a pod until he heard the cost... $1500.

Assuming that "coach" is 1950s speak for "2nd class" and "pod" is for
"business class", $1500 isn't bad at all.

On Mon, 5 Aug 2019 14:14:43 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 2019-08-05 1:11 p.m., Bruce wrote:
>> On Mon, 5 Aug 2019 13:03:35 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2019-08-04 5:38 p.m., wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 21:31:18 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Bruce > wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 04 Aug 2019 15:39:40 -0300, wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 05 Aug 2019 02:50:30 +1000, Bruce >
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 04 Aug 2019 10:55:44 -0300, wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I know but just the same, makes sense. When Hurricane Juan was
>>>>>>>>> expected, one of my neighbours thought I was mad bringing the bbq
>>>>>>>>> inside, also chairs, and doing all the other things I did, he wasn't
>>>>>>>>> laughing when the power was gone for ten days - leaving us without
>>>>>>>>> water because we were all on wells, we were almost a direct hit when
>>>>>>>>> it came ashore, I lost four nice trees so was pretty busy with the
>>>>>>>>> chain saw for a few days after.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But did you use the BBQ inside?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wasn't stupid, so I pulled it off the deck into the kitchen. Of
>>>>>>> course I didn't use it in the house for obvious reasons. I have a
>>>>>>> single ring little gas heater, but after the hurricane I gave it to a
>>>>>>> family down the road, she had just come home with baby #4 which was
>>>>>>> bottle fed and he was trying to heat formula on his bbq. Best
>>>>>>> argument I ever knew for breast is best
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, I thought you got the BBQ inside to use it there. I was wondering
>>>>>> how that would have worked out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, you'd think the mother would be prepared to give the baby some of
>>>>>> her own formula.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It doesnt always work out the way Mother Nature intended.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, that is true but most are prepared to go through discomfort in
>>>> order to get the baby on the bottle
>>>>
>>> My D-I-L had no choice. Her Crohn's flared a few days after giving birth
>>> and she had to bottle feed (my son helped!!!).
>>
>> Three exclamation marks. It must have been rare that he helped.
>>
>No, certainly not! I was replying to Lucretia:-) :-) :-)

lol

On Tue, 06 Aug 2019 20:13:58 -0300, wrote:

>On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 16:01:24 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:
>
>>On Tuesday, August 6, 2019 at 5:47:16 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>> You get a stop halfway, at least between AU and EU. With Japanese
>>> Airlines, we got a complimentary overnight stay in an airport hotel.
>>> That breaks the ordeal up nicely, but still.
>>>
>>Ok! He didn't share that little tidbit. I'd probably be fine with that unless
>>there was a screaming kid (screaming for hours) or some loony-tune on the plane
>>that decided they needed fresh air or the pilots needed their help.
>
>I had one of those (kids) on a flight to the UK. She was about 3, her
>parents had never said no to her and suddenly they had to when they
>were told to keep her in her seat (behind me) and not let her run all
>over the 'plane getting in the way. She screamed herself to sleep and
>started screaming all over again as we were heading to Heathrow. There
>was a young student next to me heading to Cambridge. When we were
>queued to deplane, he remarked to me how awful the kid had been and I
>said to him 'always remember this night and wear a condom' - we parted
>on a good laugh, the parents behind us were 'not amused'.

Little did he know you've produced an entire army of offspring.

On Tuesday, August 6, 2019 at 6:09:16 PM UTC-5, wrote:
>
> On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 15:44:20 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
> >On Tuesday, August 6, 2019 at 4:03:43 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 09:13:46 -0700 (PDT), "
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >One of my co-workers charged every single thing to his reward card and paid
> >> >it off monthly. He was able to accumulate enough air miles to fly round-trip
> >> >to Australia for free. Twice.
> >>
> >> I'd hate that. I also rarely go to Europe for that reason. 20 hours of
> >> pretending you're a sardine...
> >>
> >When he first shared how he was able to make the trip twice my first thought
> >was could I stand being in a plane for 20 straight hours? I'd probably be
> >twitching and drooling by the time it landed.
>
> My Oz cousins would like me to visit but I have told them it will
> never happen, for just that reason.
>
Have you checked the flights to see if any of them are overnight stops at a
hotel like Bruce described? If none in North America do that just tell your
cousins THEY'LL have to be the ones coming to see YOU.

On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 16:32:28 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, August 6, 2019 at 6:09:16 PM UTC-5, wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 15:44:20 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Tuesday, August 6, 2019 at 4:03:43 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 09:13:46 -0700 (PDT), "
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >One of my co-workers charged every single thing to his reward card and paid
>> >> >it off monthly. He was able to accumulate enough air miles to fly round-trip
>> >> >to Australia for free. Twice.
>> >>
>> >> I'd hate that. I also rarely go to Europe for that reason. 20 hours of
>> >> pretending you're a sardine...
>> >>
>> >When he first shared how he was able to make the trip twice my first thought
>> >was could I stand being in a plane for 20 straight hours? I'd probably be
>> >twitching and drooling by the time it landed.
>>
>> My Oz cousins would like me to visit but I have told them it will
>> never happen, for just that reason.
>>
>Have you checked the flights to see if any of them are overnight stops at a
>hotel like Bruce described? If none in North America do that just tell your
>cousins THEY'LL have to be the ones coming to see YOU.

For AU-EU, only JAL offered that, in Tokyo. That might have changed,
though.

On Tuesday, August 6, 2019 at 6:14:47 PM UTC-5, wrote:
>
> I had one of those (kids) on a flight to the UK. She was about 3, her
> parents had never said no to her and suddenly they had to when they
> were told to keep her in her seat (behind me) and not let her run all
> over the 'plane getting in the way. She screamed herself to sleep and
> started screaming all over again as we were heading to Heathrow. There
> was a young student next to me heading to Cambridge. When we were
> queued to deplane, he remarked to me how awful the kid had been and I
> said to him 'always remember this night and wear a condom' - we parted
> on a good laugh, the parents behind us were 'not amused'.
>
Excellent advice! And I wouldn't care if the parents were amused or not because
you certainly wasn't amused at her screaming. I'd been attempted to pour a
shot of whiskey down the tikes throat.

Many years ago I made a trip to the south rim of the Grand Canyon. There were
small buses that would pick up hikers and take them back to parking lot.

I'm pooped as I'd walked as about as far as was open on the rim and caught one
of the buses. It was absolutely jammed packed; standing room only. What's
on the bus, too? A foreign couple with their 5 or 6 year old hellion scream-
ing "I HATE IT, I HATE IT, I HATE IT" at the top of his lungs. The bus
driver tried in vain to point out a few local facts but nobody could hear a
word he was saying. Did she parents try to soothe or shush him one single
time?? Of course not, they acted he wasn't even on the bus.

Everybody on the bus was annoyed as hell at the kid and his nonchalant,
nothing's wrong, this is perfectly acceptable behavior, parents.

On 8/6/2019 7:15 PM, Bruce wrote:

>
> Assuming that "coach" is 1950s speak for "2nd class" and "pod" is for
> "business class", $1500 isn't bad at all.
>

First class is a larger seat. A pod is well, a pod
https://www.ranker.com/list/pictures...s/steve-wright

On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 20:29:35 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 8/6/2019 7:15 PM, Bruce wrote:
>
>>
>> Assuming that "coach" is 1950s speak for "2nd class" and "pod" is for
>> "business class", $1500 isn't bad at all.
>>
>
>First class is a larger seat. A pod is well, a pod
>https://www.ranker.com/list/pictures...s/steve-wright

First class is better than business class. Which class is a pod? 1st
or business?

On 2019-08-06 5:10 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:

>
> I have two friends who went to New Zealand last winter.Â* One is rather
> frugal and went coach.Â* The other is a retired airline pilot and one of
> his retirement perks is an fantastic discount on a flight once a year.
> Since his daughter lives in NZ. Last year he flew from Toronto to
> Vancouver,to Perth and on to Aukland. His total airfare for him and his
> wife was under $400, and that included individual pods. The guy who went
> coach had briefly considered a pod until he heard the cost... $1500.
>
>
For that distance it's worth it!

On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 18:38:23 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 2019-08-06 5:10 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>
>> I have two friends who went to New Zealand last winter.Â* One is rather
>> frugal and went coach.Â* The other is a retired airline pilot and one of
>> his retirement perks is an fantastic discount on a flight once a year.
>> Since his daughter lives in NZ. Last year he flew from Toronto to
>> Vancouver,to Perth and on to Aukland. His total airfare for him and his
>> wife was under $400, and that included individual pods. The guy who went
>> coach had briefly considered a pod until he heard the cost... $1500.
>>
>>
>For that distance it's worth it!

I'd say so.

On Wed, 07 Aug 2019 10:37:26 +1000, Bruce >
wrote:

>On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 20:29:35 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>>On 8/6/2019 7:15 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Assuming that "coach" is 1950s speak for "2nd class" and "pod" is for
>>> "business class", $1500 isn't bad at all.
>>>
>>
>>First class is a larger seat. A pod is well, a pod
>>https://www.ranker.com/list/pictures...s/steve-wright
>
>First class is better than business class. Which class is a pod? 1st
>or business?


Varies by airline and even within flights from the same airline.
Sometimes I've been assigned one with a business ticket, sometimes in
first class.

Pods tend to be more likely to appear, if at all, on long hauls,
either transcons or internatl.

On Tue, 06 Aug 2019 20:44:38 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:

>On Wed, 07 Aug 2019 10:37:26 +1000, Bruce >
>wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 20:29:35 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>>>On 8/6/2019 7:15 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Assuming that "coach" is 1950s speak for "2nd class" and "pod" is for
>>>> "business class", $1500 isn't bad at all.
>>>>
>>>
>>>First class is a larger seat. A pod is well, a pod
>>>https://www.ranker.com/list/pictures...s/steve-wright
>>
>>First class is better than business class. Which class is a pod? 1st
>>or business?
>
>
>Varies by airline and even within flights from the same airline.
>Sometimes I've been assigned one with a business ticket, sometimes in
>first class.
>
>Pods tend to be more likely to appear, if at all, on long hauls,
>either transcons or internatl.

Thanks.

On 2019-08-06 8:38 p.m., graham wrote:
> On 2019-08-06 5:10 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>
>> I have two friends who went to New Zealand last winter.Â* One is rather
>> frugal and went coach.Â* The other is a retired airline pilot and one
>> of his retirement perks is an fantastic discount on a flight once a
>> year. Since his daughter lives in NZ. Last year he flew from Toronto
>> to Vancouver,to Perth and on to Aukland. His total airfare for him and
>> his wife was under $400, and that included individual pods. The guy
>> who went coach had briefly considered a pod until he heard the cost...
>> $1500.
>>
>>
> For that distance it's worth it!

That's $1500 per person each way.

On 2019-08-06 7:48 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2019-08-06 8:38 p.m., graham wrote:
>> On 2019-08-06 5:10 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I have two friends who went to New Zealand last winter.Â* One is
>>> rather frugal and went coach.Â* The other is a retired airline pilot
>>> and one of his retirement perks is an fantastic discount on a flight
>>> once a year. Since his daughter lives in NZ. Last year he flew from
>>> Toronto to Vancouver,to Perth and on to Aukland. His total airfare
>>> for him and his wife was under $400, and that included individual
>>> pods. The guy who went coach had briefly considered a pod until he
>>> heard the cost... $1500.
>>>
>>>
>> For that distance it's worth it!
>
> That's $1500 per person each way.

Each "helluva long" way!!!

On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 21:48:43 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2019-08-06 8:38 p.m., graham wrote:
>> On 2019-08-06 5:10 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I have two friends who went to New Zealand last winter.Â* One is rather
>>> frugal and went coach.Â* The other is a retired airline pilot and one
>>> of his retirement perks is an fantastic discount on a flight once a
>>> year. Since his daughter lives in NZ. Last year he flew from Toronto
>>> to Vancouver,to Perth and on to Aukland. His total airfare for him and
>>> his wife was under $400, and that included individual pods. The guy
>>> who went coach had briefly considered a pod until he heard the cost...
>>> $1500.
>>>
>>>
>> For that distance it's worth it!
>
>That's $1500 per person each way.

A return trip with Air Canada from Toronto to Auckland costs $2400, so
that pod was cheap.

On 8/6/2019 10:08 PM, graham wrote:
> On 2019-08-06 7:48 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2019-08-06 8:38 p.m., graham wrote:
>>> On 2019-08-06 5:10 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have two friends who went to New Zealand last winter.Â* One is
>>>> rather frugal and went coach.Â* The other is a retired airline pilot
>>>> and one of his retirement perks is an fantastic discount on a flight
>>>> once a year. Since his daughter lives in NZ. Last year he flew from
>>>> Toronto to Vancouver,to Perth and on to Aukland. His total airfare
>>>> for him and his wife was under $400, and that included individual
>>>> pods. The guy who went coach had briefly considered a pod until he
>>>> heard the cost... $1500.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> For that distance it's worth it!
>>
>> That's $1500 per person each way.
>
> Each "helluva long" way!!!

Depends on how much $6000 means to you. I could take a nice vacation
for 2 or 3 weeks on that. I'll play sardine to not spend it on a nice
seat but on other parts of a vacation. Different priorities.

On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 22:37:50 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 8/6/2019 10:08 PM, graham wrote:
>> On 2019-08-06 7:48 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2019-08-06 8:38 p.m., graham wrote:
>>>> On 2019-08-06 5:10 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have two friends who went to New Zealand last winter.Â* One is
>>>>> rather frugal and went coach.Â* The other is a retired airline pilot
>>>>> and one of his retirement perks is an fantastic discount on a flight
>>>>> once a year. Since his daughter lives in NZ. Last year he flew from
>>>>> Toronto to Vancouver,to Perth and on to Aukland. His total airfare
>>>>> for him and his wife was under $400, and that included individual
>>>>> pods. The guy who went coach had briefly considered a pod until he
>>>>> heard the cost... $1500.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> For that distance it's worth it!
>>>
>>> That's $1500 per person each way.
>>
>> Each "helluva long" way!!!
>
>Depends on how much $6000 means to you. I could take a nice vacation
>for 2 or 3 weeks on that. I'll play sardine to not spend it on a nice
>seat but on other parts of a vacation. Different priorities.

Also depends how far you're flying.

Anyway, I stay home and spend it here. Different priorities again.

On 2019-08-06 10:08 p.m., graham wrote:
> On 2019-08-06 7:48 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2019-08-06 8:38 p.m., graham wrote:
>>> On 2019-08-06 5:10 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have two friends who went to New Zealand last winter.Â* One is
>>>> rather frugal and went coach.Â* The other is a retired airline pilot
>>>> and one of his retirement perks is an fantastic discount on a flight
>>>> once a year. Since his daughter lives in NZ. Last year he flew from
>>>> Toronto to Vancouver,to Perth and on to Aukland. His total airfare
>>>> for him and his wife was under $400, and that included individual
>>>> pods. The guy who went coach had briefly considered a pod until he
>>>> heard the cost... $1500.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> For that distance it's worth it!
>>
>> That's $1500 per person each way.
>
> Each "helluva long" way!!!


I don't question that it would make the trip much more comfortable, but
that $1500 per person each way would be out of reach for most
travellers, My buddy got a great deal thanks to his retirement perk. My
other friend could not afford it. Well.... he probably could have
afforded it but they travel a lot and it might have meant forgoing a
future trip, so he and his wife opted to rough it on coach. I don't
think I could cope well with a 15 hour flight,

wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 6, 2019 at 5:47:16 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 15:44:20 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>> I'd hate that. I also rarely go to Europe for that reason. 20 hours of
>>>> pretending you're a sardine...
>>>>
>>> When he first shared how he was able to make the trip twice my first thought
>>> was could I stand being in a plane for 20 straight hours? I'd probably be
>>> twitching and drooling by the time it landed.
>>
>> You get a stop halfway, at least between AU and EU. With Japanese
>> Airlines, we got a complimentary overnight stay in an airport hotel.
>> That breaks the ordeal up nicely, but still.
>>
> Ok! He didn't share that little tidbit. I'd probably be fine with that unless
> there was a screaming kid (screaming for hours) or some loony-tune on the plane
> that decided they needed fresh air or the pilots needed their help.
>


Like Kuth?

On Tuesday, August 6, 2019 at 10:31:21 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
>
> wrote:
>
> > I'd probably be fine with that unless
> > there was a screaming kid (screaming for hours) or some loony-tune on the plane
> > that decided they needed fresh air or the pilots needed their help.
> >
>
> Like Kuth?
>
Yeah, the air marshals would be arresting me as soon as the plane touched
down.

In article >,
says...
>
> On 8/4/2019 4:30 PM, wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 4, 2019 at 12:53:52 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
> >>
> >> On 8/4/2019 12:03 PM, Gary wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Jill. I only go to the bank for deposits or check registers.
> >>> Money comes as cash back from various stores.
> >>>
> >> Hi, Gary. Okay, don't complain the bank isn't open when you're shopping
> >> at 6AM. ATM's are open even if the bank isn't. Having said that, I
> >> haven't been to an ATM in years. Don't need one because I don't pay
> >> cash for anything but vegetables and fruit and the farm stands.
> >>
> >> Jill
> >>
> > Or if he had the presence of mind when he asks for cash back he could ask
> > for some it in $1 bills. Then he wouldn't need to whine because the bank
> > is not open at 6:00 a.m.
> >
> > So many simple solutions to simple problems if people would only think.
> >
> I'm in a hurricane zone, too. I have keep some cash in a suitcase type
> fireproof portable safe. Along with important documents. I wonder if
> he has renters insurance if he's so worried about hurricanes.
>
> I always have food stocked in the pantry. If a hurricane comes through
> (BTDT) and trees are down and there's a power outage, having a stack of
> $1 bills won't help.

Last time we had a major power outage (whole island) supermarket
tills stopped working, so couldn't be used to pay with either cash or
cards. Also all the windows are at one end of the store and most of it
was pretty much in darkness.

The manager issued torches to the staff and made all essential
goods available to locals "on tick". Customers waited outside, handed in
a written shopping list with their contact details on it, staff fetched
the goods by torchlight and handed them over, no payment required. After
the shop re-opened (on generators, the next day) we settled up our
shopping lists.

Janet UK

"cshenk" wrote in message
...

Ophelia wrote:

> "Jinx the Minx" wrote in message ...
>
> Ophelia > wrote:
> > "Jinx the Minx" wrote in message ...
> >
> >Gary > wrote:
> > > sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssEd Pawlowski wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 7/30/2019 2:25 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > ssssssssss
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The oven is easier, the bacon stays flat, but the texture
> > > > > > is just not the same. I'll stick to the fry pan.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dredge the bacon in flour, fry in a good amount of oil till
> > > > > brown. Do not overcook. The bacon will be crispy without
> > > > > frying it all to hell. It's done in about half the time.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Never heard of that for bacon. May try it one day. My mother
> > > > used to do that for scrapple. I wonder if it would work with
> > > > Spam.
> > >
> > > Probably would, Ed. I did see a documentary/cooking show where
> > > bacon was floured then fried in oil. Floured and fried scrapple
> > > and spam would be worth trying.
> > >
> >
> > Fried Spam is delish all on its own. Why ruin it with starchy
> > coating? On the other hand, I I have floured and fried side pork
> > in the past. Mostly the flour just served as thickener for the
> > gravy. Yum. Need to make that again sometime soon, because its
> > been years.
> >
> > ==
> >
> > D. loves Spam!!! However it is cooked (if cooked) or however it is
> > served)) He got it a lot in the military)))
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> I grew up barely 45 minutes from the birthplace of Spam, so I had it
> a lot as a child. Most often we had it pan fried and served as a
> sandwich or as a breakfast meat, but it was also common to use it in
> place of ham in cold pasta salads.
>
> ====
>
> That is a new idea, thanks! I have been looking around for new
> recipes to make and I will use that one))

Hi ophelia, to expand a bit, for spam slices for pan fryings (used as
is with breakfast or cut to strips, or sandwiches), cut the spam thin,
about 1/4 inch is right. A little thicker is ok, thinner is not.

For ham simile fo a pasta, normal chop you would use, normally a sort
of squared sort of thing.

===

Thanks, Carol D. loves Spam so all ideas are very welcome)

I recently made a Spam and pineapple fried rice and he loved it)

On Wed, 7 Aug 2019 09:22:17 +0100, Janet > wrote:

> Last time we had a major power outage (whole island) supermarket
>tills stopped working, so couldn't be used to pay with either cash or
>cards. Also all the windows are at one end of the store and most of it
>was pretty much in darkness.
>
> The manager issued torches to the staff and made all essential
>goods available to locals "on tick". Customers waited outside, handed in
>a written shopping list with their contact details on it, staff fetched
>the goods by torchlight and handed them over, no payment required. After
>the shop re-opened (on generators, the next day) we settled up our
>shopping lists.

Did you all sing authentic English folk songs as you walked back to
the supermarket?

"Bruce" wrote in message ...

On Tue, 06 Aug 2019 09:22:49 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>>
>> "Ophelia" wrote:
>> > I don't really know what a 'check register' is, but we rarely go
>> > into
>> >our bank. We do all our banking online like you.
>>
>> I don't know what a 'check register' is either.
>
>A check register is a blank book that you fill in each time you
>make a bank (checking acct.) purchase using a check or a debit
>card. It's for your own records and you constantly know what your
>balance is or should be.
>
>Everytime I use either, I immediately write in the check number
>and amount. If using a debit card (most times) I always ask for a
>receipt and it stays in my wallet until I note it my check
>register.
>
>My register records check # , date written and amount.
>For debit card, it says "Debit," date written and amount.
>
>It's only smart to do this and compare with bank statement. Banks
>can and do make mistakes occasionally. Your only proof to contest
>that is your register with amount and dates.

I can't see myself do this. Maybe if someone held a gun to my head.
Maybe.

===

It is easy enough to print off a bank statement and save those if you
wanted to.

On Wed, 7 Aug 2019 10:01:31 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>"Bruce" wrote in message ...
>
>On Tue, 06 Aug 2019 09:22:49 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>>Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>> "Ophelia" wrote:
>>> > I don't really know what a 'check register' is, but we rarely go
>>> > into
>>> >our bank. We do all our banking online like you.
>>>
>>> I don't know what a 'check register' is either.
>>
>>A check register is a blank book that you fill in each time you
>>make a bank (checking acct.) purchase using a check or a debit
>>card. It's for your own records and you constantly know what your
>>balance is or should be.
>>
>>Everytime I use either, I immediately write in the check number
>>and amount. If using a debit card (most times) I always ask for a
>>receipt and it stays in my wallet until I note it my check
>>register.
>>
>>My register records check # , date written and amount.
>>For debit card, it says "Debit," date written and amount.
>>
>>It's only smart to do this and compare with bank statement. Banks
>>can and do make mistakes occasionally. Your only proof to contest
>>that is your register with amount and dates.
>
>I can't see myself do this. Maybe if someone held a gun to my head.
>Maybe.
>
>===
>
> It is easy enough to print off a bank statement and save those if you
>wanted to.

Yes, but to manually fill in a "check register"? Life's too short IMO.

Ophelia wrote:
>
> It is easy enough to print off a bank statement and save those if you
> wanted to.

Again...bank's do make mistakes. Best to keep your own records
then compare them to bank statements.

Bruce wrote:
> Yes, but to manually fill in a "check register"? Life's too short IMO.

And here I thought you were old enough not to be so foolish
(childish).
Adding something to your check register takes only seconds if you
do it each time you make a purchase. You however prefer to waste
much of your short life right here in RFC trolling mostly.

On Wed, 07 Aug 2019 06:36:44 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>> Yes, but to manually fill in a "check register"? Life's too short IMO.
>
>And here I thought you were old enough not to be so foolish
>(childish).
>Adding something to your check register takes only seconds if you
>do it each time you make a purchase. You however prefer to waste
>much of your short life right here in RFC trolling mostly.

Trolling? Oh, you mean contributing. Well, that's a lot more fun than
filling in a fuddy duddy "check register". I mean, the 50s are over,
dude!

On Wed, 07 Aug 2019 06:36:10 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> It is easy enough to print off a bank statement and save those if you
>> wanted to.
>
>Again...bank's do make mistakes. Best to keep your own records
>then compare them to bank statements.

If I were you, I'd go to the bank and withdraw my entire balance in
dollar cents. Distribute them over your bed and sleep on them. You
could cuddle your loved ones every night!