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Yup...cheers to a GREAT country...!!!
-- Best Greg --->> even though it spawned the likes of "Dave Smith", lol... |
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On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 8:05:31 AM UTC-6, GM wrote:
> Yup...cheers to a GREAT country...!!! > > > -- > Best > Greg --->> even though it spawned the likes of "Dave Smith", lol... Never mind the "Bonne fête du CANADA" bullshit and have a great DOMINION DAY which we knew it as before those !@#$% Liberals changed it to please the French speakers. ===== |
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Roy wrote:
> On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 8:05:31 AM UTC-6, GM wrote: > > Yup...cheers to a GREAT country...!!! > > > > > > -- > > Best > > Greg --->> even though it spawned the likes of "Dave Smith", lol... > > Never mind the "Bonne fête du CANADA" bullshit and have a great DOMINION DAY > which we knew it as before those !@#$% Liberals changed it to please the > French speakers. Lol...!!! I have to say that my only Canadian experience was visiting Expo '67 when I was a kid, SO many of the frogs were RUDE and HOSTILE when we'd stop in a small Quebec town and ask directions, etc....they simply oozed contempt for English speakers... Must have been a bit akin to how blacks might have been treated traveling throughout the pre - Civil Rights era US... The only "ruder" travel experience I've had besides that Canadian trip was when an officious East German in an adjacent seat on a 1978 Prague - East Berlin plane trip asked me, "OH, are you Canadian?", to which I replied, "No, I'm American"...he visibly recoiled and prolly would have moved seat had the plane not been full, lol... -- Best Greg -- Best Greg |
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On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 11:12:25 -0700 (PDT), GM
> wrote: >I have to say that my only Canadian experience was visiting Expo '67 when I was a kid, SO many of the frogs were RUDE and HOSTILE when we'd stop in a small Quebec town and ask directions, etc....they simply oozed contempt for English speakers... > >Must have been a bit akin to how blacks might have been treated traveling throughout the pre - Civil Rights era US... > >The only "ruder" travel experience I've had besides that Canadian trip was when an officious East German in an adjacent seat on a 1978 Prague - East Berlin plane trip asked me, "OH, are you Canadian?", to which I replied, "No, I'm American"...he visibly recoiled and prolly would have moved seat had the plane not been full, lol... > >-- >Best >Greg Correct - we arrived by Cunard during Expo 67, we disembarked in Montreal but landed for a few hours first in Quebec City. My kids were little and we told them in a tourist shop they could spend $3 each on a souvenir. My son wanted a little desk flag and asked the owner how much it was and the man pretended not to understand English. He was just 5 at the time and it annoyed me, so I took his hand and said 'come on all of you, the man here doesn't speak English so we'll go to one of the many other stores' could see by his face he knew damn well what I said and I turned back from the door and told him something he could do that was very rude, in French ![]() know what I was saying. They were no better even a few years later but I think they have learned now that it doesn't pay to aggravate tourists, OTOH I hear the Floridians don't like snow birds from Quebec. So who knows. |
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On Tue, 02 Jul 2019 09:16:55 +1000, Bruce >
wrote: >On Mon, 01 Jul 2019 15:44:52 -0300, wrote: > >>On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 11:12:25 -0700 (PDT), GM > wrote: >> >> >> >>>I have to say that my only Canadian experience was visiting Expo '67 when I was a kid, SO many of the frogs were RUDE and HOSTILE when we'd stop in a small Quebec town and ask directions, etc....they simply oozed contempt for English speakers... >>> >>>Must have been a bit akin to how blacks might have been treated traveling throughout the pre - Civil Rights era US... >>> >>>The only "ruder" travel experience I've had besides that Canadian trip was when an officious East German in an adjacent seat on a 1978 Prague - East Berlin plane trip asked me, "OH, are you Canadian?", to which I replied, "No, I'm American"...he visibly recoiled and prolly would have moved seat had the plane not been full, lol... >>> >>>-- >>>Best >>>Greg >> >>Correct - we arrived by Cunard during Expo 67, we disembarked in >>Montreal but landed for a few hours first in Quebec City. My kids >>were little and we told them in a tourist shop they could spend $3 >>each on a souvenir. My son wanted a little desk flag and asked the >>owner how much it was and the man pretended not to understand English. >>He was just 5 at the time and it annoyed me, so I took his hand and >>said 'come on all of you, the man here doesn't speak English so we'll >>go to one of the many other stores' could see by his face he knew damn >>well what I said and I turned back from the door and told him >>something he could do that was very rude, in French ![]() >>know what I was saying. > >It's hard not to feel superior when you speak such a great language. That's right. I worked for a commercial photographer and one day the girl in the store came and asked me to help her, a woman from PQ who didn't speak English. So I go out and help her select the pic she wants etc and as she is leaving, she turns and says to me, 'You speak terrible French' so I said to her 'No, I speak real Parisian French, you speak some sort of Patois' - she was fit to be tied ![]() |
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On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 19:32:42 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote: >On 2019-07-01 6:48 p.m., wrote: >> On Mon, 01 Jul 2019 15:44:52 -0300, wrote: > >>> Correct - we arrived by Cunard during Expo 67, we disembarked in >>> Montreal but landed for a few hours first in Quebec City. My kids >>> were little and we told them in a tourist shop they could spend $3 >>> each on a souvenir. My son wanted a little desk flag and asked the >>> owner how much it was and the man pretended not to understand English. >>> He was just 5 at the time and it annoyed me, so I took his hand and >>> said 'come on all of you, the man here doesn't speak English so we'll >>> go to one of the many other stores' could see by his face he knew damn >>> well what I said and I turned back from the door and told him >>> something he could do that was very rude, in French ![]() >>> know what I was saying. >> >> Let me guess... you told him in Français to shove all his flags up his >> derriere... sideways and hang em from a rusty nail! (Brooklynese.) > >I have been to Quebec a few times. My son lived in Montreal for 10 >years. I speak enough French to get by and when I am in Quebec I make an >effort so speak French. They usually answer in English, or at least slow >down their French for me. I can't say that I was ever treated rudely in >Quebec. > > >> >>> They were no better even a few years later but I think they have >>> learned now that it doesn't pay to aggravate tourists, OTOH I hear the >>> Floridians don't like snow birds from Quebec. So who knows. > >Quebecers have a well deserved bad name and not just among Anglos. Cheap >Bob was born in Quebec and lived there until he was about 8 and he hates >them. A co-worker, our officially designated bilingual officer, hated >them. My good buddy, Pierre, born and raised in Baie Comeau, lived there >until he was 10, prefers to live in Anglo Ontario and considers Quebec >to be inherently corrupt. In the mid-80s I drove my uncle and aunt up for a trip - there were several occasions that people were senselessly rude to us. I do think it is getting less now though as the old hard core are dying off, the young are not into the same separation mentality. |
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On Mon, 01 Jul 2019 21:02:35 -0300, wrote:
>On Tue, 02 Jul 2019 09:16:55 +1000, Bruce > >wrote: > >>On Mon, 01 Jul 2019 15:44:52 -0300, wrote: >> >>>On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 11:12:25 -0700 (PDT), GM > wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>I have to say that my only Canadian experience was visiting Expo '67 when I was a kid, SO many of the frogs were RUDE and HOSTILE when we'd stop in a small Quebec town and ask directions, etc....they simply oozed contempt for English speakers... >>>> >>>>Must have been a bit akin to how blacks might have been treated traveling throughout the pre - Civil Rights era US... >>>> >>>>The only "ruder" travel experience I've had besides that Canadian trip was when an officious East German in an adjacent seat on a 1978 Prague - East Berlin plane trip asked me, "OH, are you Canadian?", to which I replied, "No, I'm American"...he visibly recoiled and prolly would have moved seat had the plane not been full, lol... >>>> >>>>-- >>>>Best >>>>Greg >>> >>>Correct - we arrived by Cunard during Expo 67, we disembarked in >>>Montreal but landed for a few hours first in Quebec City. My kids >>>were little and we told them in a tourist shop they could spend $3 >>>each on a souvenir. My son wanted a little desk flag and asked the >>>owner how much it was and the man pretended not to understand English. >>>He was just 5 at the time and it annoyed me, so I took his hand and >>>said 'come on all of you, the man here doesn't speak English so we'll >>>go to one of the many other stores' could see by his face he knew damn >>>well what I said and I turned back from the door and told him >>>something he could do that was very rude, in French ![]() >>>know what I was saying. >> >>It's hard not to feel superior when you speak such a great language. > >That's right. I worked for a commercial photographer and one day the >girl in the store came and asked me to help her, a woman from PQ who >didn't speak English. So I go out and help her select the pic she >wants etc and as she is leaving, she turns and says to me, 'You speak >terrible French' so I said to her 'No, I speak real Parisian French, >you speak some sort of Patois' - she was fit to be tied ![]() But do you really speak French? Something tells me you don't. I can imagine Québécois getting ****ed off being surrounded by loudmouthed, entitled English speaking North Americans. |
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On Mon, 01 Jul 2019 21:05:50 -0300, wrote:
>On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 19:32:42 -0400, Dave Smith > wrote: > >>On 2019-07-01 6:48 p.m., wrote: >>> On Mon, 01 Jul 2019 15:44:52 -0300, wrote: >> >>>> Correct - we arrived by Cunard during Expo 67, we disembarked in >>>> Montreal but landed for a few hours first in Quebec City. My kids >>>> were little and we told them in a tourist shop they could spend $3 >>>> each on a souvenir. My son wanted a little desk flag and asked the >>>> owner how much it was and the man pretended not to understand English. >>>> He was just 5 at the time and it annoyed me, so I took his hand and >>>> said 'come on all of you, the man here doesn't speak English so we'll >>>> go to one of the many other stores' could see by his face he knew damn >>>> well what I said and I turned back from the door and told him >>>> something he could do that was very rude, in French ![]() >>>> know what I was saying. >>> >>> Let me guess... you told him in Français to shove all his flags up his >>> derriere... sideways and hang em from a rusty nail! (Brooklynese.) >> >>I have been to Quebec a few times. My son lived in Montreal for 10 >>years. I speak enough French to get by and when I am in Quebec I make an >>effort so speak French. They usually answer in English, or at least slow >>down their French for me. I can't say that I was ever treated rudely in >>Quebec. >> >> >>> >>>> They were no better even a few years later but I think they have >>>> learned now that it doesn't pay to aggravate tourists, OTOH I hear the >>>> Floridians don't like snow birds from Quebec. So who knows. >> >>Quebecers have a well deserved bad name and not just among Anglos. Cheap >>Bob was born in Quebec and lived there until he was about 8 and he hates >>them. A co-worker, our officially designated bilingual officer, hated >>them. My good buddy, Pierre, born and raised in Baie Comeau, lived there >>until he was 10, prefers to live in Anglo Ontario and considers Quebec >>to be inherently corrupt. > >In the mid-80s I drove my uncle and aunt up for a trip - there were >several occasions that people were senselessly rude to us. I do think >it is getting less now though as the old hard core are dying off, the >young are not into the same separation mentality. If you spoke French to them -not that you're able to- they'd be a lot friendlier. People also always complain about the French being rude. I never had many problems with rude French people. Not more than anywhere else. Although I must say that Australians are generally the friendliest I've seen. |
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On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 20:21:21 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote: >On 2019-07-01 8:02 p.m., wrote: >> On Tue, 02 Jul 2019 09:16:55 +1000, Bruce > > >>> It's hard not to feel superior when you speak such a great language. >> >> That's right. I worked for a commercial photographer and one day the >> girl in the store came and asked me to help her, a woman from PQ who >> didn't speak English. So I go out and help her select the pic she >> wants etc and as she is leaving, she turns and says to me, 'You speak >> terrible French' so I said to her 'No, I speak real Parisian French, >> you speak some sort of Patois' - she was fit to be tied ![]() > >My good friend was born and raised in Baie Comeau, and moved here when >he was 10. I met him when we were 16 and, even though he had a French >name, I had no idea that his first language was French. He became a >pilot and his first job was with a regional airline back in Baie >Comeau. His wife was looking forward to the French immersion and >leaning French. He told her not to speak French there, that it is a >horrible version of French. According to that logic, North American English is a horrible version of real English. A colonial pigeon accent if you wish. |
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On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 7:18:31 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> > My good friend was born and raised in Baie Comeau, and moved here when > he was 10. I met him when we were 16 and, even though he had a French > name, I had no idea that his first language was French. He became a > pilot and his first job was with a regional airline back in Baie > Comeau. His wife was looking forward to the French immersion and > leaning French. He told her not to speak French there, that it is a > horrible version of French. > I've read a time or two that the Spanish think the Mexicans speak a horrible version of Spanish. But I have no idea as I speak neither language. |
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On Tue, 02 Jul 2019 10:13:27 +1000, Bruce >
wrote: >On Mon, 01 Jul 2019 21:05:50 -0300, wrote: > >>On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 19:32:42 -0400, Dave Smith > wrote: >> >>>On 2019-07-01 6:48 p.m., wrote: >>>> On Mon, 01 Jul 2019 15:44:52 -0300, wrote: >>> >>>>> Correct - we arrived by Cunard during Expo 67, we disembarked in >>>>> Montreal but landed for a few hours first in Quebec City. My kids >>>>> were little and we told them in a tourist shop they could spend $3 >>>>> each on a souvenir. My son wanted a little desk flag and asked the >>>>> owner how much it was and the man pretended not to understand English. >>>>> He was just 5 at the time and it annoyed me, so I took his hand and >>>>> said 'come on all of you, the man here doesn't speak English so we'll >>>>> go to one of the many other stores' could see by his face he knew damn >>>>> well what I said and I turned back from the door and told him >>>>> something he could do that was very rude, in French ![]() >>>>> know what I was saying. >>>> >>>> Let me guess... you told him in Français to shove all his flags up his >>>> derriere... sideways and hang em from a rusty nail! (Brooklynese.) >>> >>>I have been to Quebec a few times. My son lived in Montreal for 10 >>>years. I speak enough French to get by and when I am in Quebec I make an >>>effort so speak French. They usually answer in English, or at least slow >>>down their French for me. I can't say that I was ever treated rudely in >>>Quebec. >>> >>> >>>> >>>>> They were no better even a few years later but I think they have >>>>> learned now that it doesn't pay to aggravate tourists, OTOH I hear the >>>>> Floridians don't like snow birds from Quebec. So who knows. >>> >>>Quebecers have a well deserved bad name and not just among Anglos. Cheap >>>Bob was born in Quebec and lived there until he was about 8 and he hates >>>them. A co-worker, our officially designated bilingual officer, hated >>>them. My good buddy, Pierre, born and raised in Baie Comeau, lived there >>>until he was 10, prefers to live in Anglo Ontario and considers Quebec >>>to be inherently corrupt. >> >>In the mid-80s I drove my uncle and aunt up for a trip - there were >>several occasions that people were senselessly rude to us. I do think >>it is getting less now though as the old hard core are dying off, the >>young are not into the same separation mentality. > >If you spoke French to them -not that you're able to- they'd be a lot >friendlier. People also always complain about the French being rude. I >never had many problems with rude French people. Not more than >anywhere else. Although I must say that Australians are generally the >friendliest I've seen. Yes, my time at the Sorbonne was really difficult studying in French although I couldn't speak it. |
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On Tue, 02 Jul 2019 08:24:47 -0300, wrote:
>On Tue, 02 Jul 2019 10:13:27 +1000, Bruce > >wrote: > >>On Mon, 01 Jul 2019 21:05:50 -0300, wrote: >> >>>On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 19:32:42 -0400, Dave Smith > wrote: >>> >>>>On 2019-07-01 6:48 p.m., wrote: >>>>> On Mon, 01 Jul 2019 15:44:52 -0300, wrote: >>>> >>>>>> Correct - we arrived by Cunard during Expo 67, we disembarked in >>>>>> Montreal but landed for a few hours first in Quebec City. My kids >>>>>> were little and we told them in a tourist shop they could spend $3 >>>>>> each on a souvenir. My son wanted a little desk flag and asked the >>>>>> owner how much it was and the man pretended not to understand English. >>>>>> He was just 5 at the time and it annoyed me, so I took his hand and >>>>>> said 'come on all of you, the man here doesn't speak English so we'll >>>>>> go to one of the many other stores' could see by his face he knew damn >>>>>> well what I said and I turned back from the door and told him >>>>>> something he could do that was very rude, in French ![]() >>>>>> know what I was saying. >>>>> >>>>> Let me guess... you told him in Français to shove all his flags up his >>>>> derriere... sideways and hang em from a rusty nail! (Brooklynese.) >>>> >>>>I have been to Quebec a few times. My son lived in Montreal for 10 >>>>years. I speak enough French to get by and when I am in Quebec I make an >>>>effort so speak French. They usually answer in English, or at least slow >>>>down their French for me. I can't say that I was ever treated rudely in >>>>Quebec. >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> They were no better even a few years later but I think they have >>>>>> learned now that it doesn't pay to aggravate tourists, OTOH I hear the >>>>>> Floridians don't like snow birds from Quebec. So who knows. >>>> >>>>Quebecers have a well deserved bad name and not just among Anglos. Cheap >>>>Bob was born in Quebec and lived there until he was about 8 and he hates >>>>them. A co-worker, our officially designated bilingual officer, hated >>>>them. My good buddy, Pierre, born and raised in Baie Comeau, lived there >>>>until he was 10, prefers to live in Anglo Ontario and considers Quebec >>>>to be inherently corrupt. >>> >>>In the mid-80s I drove my uncle and aunt up for a trip - there were >>>several occasions that people were senselessly rude to us. I do think >>>it is getting less now though as the old hard core are dying off, the >>>young are not into the same separation mentality. >> >>If you spoke French to them -not that you're able to- they'd be a lot >>friendlier. People also always complain about the French being rude. I >>never had many problems with rude French people. Not more than >>anywhere else. Although I must say that Australians are generally the >>friendliest I've seen. > >Yes, my time at the Sorbonne was really difficult studying in French >although I couldn't speak it. But people do many things at the Sorbonne besides studying there ![]() |
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On 2019-07-02 8:21 a.m., Gary wrote:
> wrote: >> >> They were no better even a few years later but I think they have >> learned now that it doesn't pay to aggravate tourists, OTOH I hear the >> Floridians don't like snow birds from Quebec. So who knows. > > I think most tourist town locals bitch and whine about the > tourists. They do here but I disagree. I get down there in the > summer and mingle with tourists. I've met so many cool people > from eastern US, canada and even from Europe. > Niagara on the Lake is like that. The locals hate the tourists. They like living in a down with lots of nice shops and restaurants and theatre, that are supported by the tourists. They like the jobs that exist because of the tourists. They like all the money that comes into the town because of the tourists. They just hate the tourists themselves. |
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On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 10:04:12 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2019-07-02 8:21 a.m., Gary wrote: > > wrote: > >> > >> They were no better even a few years later but I think they have > >> learned now that it doesn't pay to aggravate tourists, OTOH I hear the > >> Floridians don't like snow birds from Quebec. So who knows. > > > > I think most tourist town locals bitch and whine about the > > tourists. They do here but I disagree. I get down there in the > > summer and mingle with tourists. I've met so many cool people > > from eastern US, canada and even from Europe. > > > > Niagara on the Lake is like that. The locals hate the tourists. They > like living in a down with lots of nice shops and restaurants and > theatre, that are supported by the tourists. They like the jobs that > exist because of the tourists. They like all the money that comes into > the town because of the tourists. They just hate the tourists themselves. Like a college town. Hate the students. Love their money. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 10:35:08 AM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 10:04:12 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote: > > On 2019-07-02 8:21 a.m., Gary wrote: > > > wrote: > > >> > > >> They were no better even a few years later but I think they have > > >> learned now that it doesn't pay to aggravate tourists, OTOH I hear the > > >> Floridians don't like snow birds from Quebec. So who knows. > > > > > > I think most tourist town locals bitch and whine about the > > > tourists. They do here but I disagree. I get down there in the > > > summer and mingle with tourists. I've met so many cool people > > > from eastern US, canada and even from Europe. > > > > > > > Niagara on the Lake is like that. The locals hate the tourists. They > > like living in a down with lots of nice shops and restaurants and > > theatre, that are supported by the tourists. They like the jobs that > > exist because of the tourists. They like all the money that comes into > > the town because of the tourists. They just hate the tourists themselves. > > Like a college town. Hate the students. Love their money. > > Cindy Hamilton I live next to a University town. University of Waterloo, and Wilfred Laurier University. Man we have many students here. And once a year they sure like to celebrate. St. Patrick's Day. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitch...otos-1.5060188 |
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In article >, Bruce
> wrote: > According to that logic, North American English is a horrible version > of real English. A colonial pigeon accent if you wish. Meh...I'm bored, so I thought I'd pick on you. You're welcome! A pigeon is a bird. You were grasping for "pidgin". Close though! Let's call them homophones. How's your accent coming along? Would I be able to understand you in a conversation? leo |
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On Wed, 03 Jul 2019 00:27:12 -0700, Leonard Blaisdell
> wrote: >In article >, Bruce > wrote: > >> According to that logic, North American English is a horrible version >> of real English. A colonial pigeon accent if you wish. > >Meh...I'm bored, so I thought I'd pick on you. You're welcome! >A pigeon is a bird. You were grasping for "pidgin". Close though! Let's >call them homophones. You're right, of course. >How's your accent coming along? Would I be able >to understand you in a conversation? Australians understand me. I think you would too ![]() Mind you, I'm not calling American English a colonial pigeon accent. I was just following Lucretia's reasoning about Canadian French. |
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On Wed, 03 Jul 2019 00:27:12 -0700, Leonard Blaisdell
> wrote: >In article >, Bruce > wrote: > >> According to that logic, North American English is a horrible version >> of real English. A colonial pigeon accent if you wish. > >Meh...I'm bored, so I thought I'd pick on you. You're welcome! >A pigeon is a bird. You were grasping for "pidgin". Close though! Let's >call them homophones. How's your accent coming along? Would I be able >to understand you in a conversation? > >leo We used to tease our Aussie cousins that they were diggers that washed their fices in bisons. |
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