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On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 08:59:02 +1100, Bruce >
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>On Fri, 22 Mar 2019 16:37:36 -0500,
wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 22 Mar 2019 11:17:49 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>
>>>On 2019-03-22 9:39 a.m., Terry Coombs wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Some kids do still read ... our grandkids (all 5 of 'em) are very
>>>> disappointed if they don't get books as gifts for occasions like
>>>> birthdays or Christmas .
>>>>
>>>I treat my grandchildren to books at any time. I don't consider them as
>>>luxuries but necessities.

>>
>>books are the best gift to get, I mean actual books not the ebook
>>crap.... Have you ever tried to regift an ebook... I tried to do that
>>once and broke my damn printer.

>
>Ebooks are great. You buy them, download them right away, read them
>and delete them. And I have no idea what your printer had to with it
>



..... hmmmm....

Regifting an ebook....
printers......
hmmmm.....

think about it for a minute you will get it

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On 3/22/2019 9:15 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2019-03-22 7:01 p.m., songbird wrote:
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>> Â*Â* dvds i can see there being a demand issue that it
>> would be reasonable for some of the newer ones to
>> have a limit.Â* we currently have about a dozen dvds
>> checked out to watch (that is about all Mom watches
>> at night now).
>>

>
> So, while you have a dozen DVDs sitting around waiting to be seen
> someone else could have been watching them.
>


Dave, it sounds to me as if she's checked them out because her mother
might want to watch them. Sometimes, when parents get to a certain age
you do what you have to do to keep them entertained. If that means
having a choice of DVD's on hand, so be it. I'm sure if the library had
a problem with it they'd tell her.

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On 2019-03-22 7:30 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> On 3/22/2019 9:15 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2019-03-22 7:01 p.m., songbird wrote:
>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>> Â*Â* dvds i can see there being a demand issue that it
>>> would be reasonable for some of the newer ones to
>>> have a limit.Â* we currently have about a dozen dvds
>>> checked out to watch (that is about all Mom watches
>>> at night now).
>>>

>>
>> So, while you have a dozen DVDs sitting around waiting to be seen
>> someone else could have been watching them.
>>

>
> Dave, it sounds to me as if she's checked them out because her mother
> might want to watch them.Â* Sometimes, when parents get to a certain age
> you do what you have to do to keep them entertained.Â* If that means
> having a choice of DVD's on hand, so be it.Â* I'm sure if the library had
> a problem with it they'd tell her.
>
> Jill
>
>

Furthermore, someone might be ill/disabled and watches tv many hours per
day.
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On 3/22/2019 5:55 PM, songbird wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> Gary wrote:
>>> Terry Coombs wrote:
>>>> Sam never said that - in the only true representation of the tale of
>>>> Frodo Nine-Fingers and the Ring of Doom . The writers of those movies
>>>> were "inventive" to say the least . I've read the covers off
>>>> (literally!) at least 3 sets of the Trilogy of the Ring over the last 50
>>>> or so years , and ferdamshure Sam never said that . Poetic license my
>>>> dyin' ass . Frodo Lives !
>>>
>>> I read "The Hobbit" and then the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy back
>>> in the 1970's. I still have the books on my bookshelf. Amazing
>>> story but the only thing I hated was how several separate events
>>> happened all through that trilogy. You would just get into and
>>> enjoy one story then next chapter is....meanwhile...and an
>>> entirely different story started or continued. Kind of like a tv
>>> soap opera. Make you wait. At least at the end, all stories come
>>> together.
>>>
>>> Anyway...I've never bothered to watch the movies. They always
>>> change things from the books.
>>> Same thing with any movie made from any book.
>>>

>> Seems like in the 1970's the thing to read was 'The Hobbit' and then the
>> 'Lord of the Rings' trilogy. I still have those books on my shelves.

> i read through them usually at least once a year,
> often more than that if i can't get out in a storm
> and want something to read. each time i find a
> different perspective on something that i hadn't
> noticed before.
>
> i read them first in the early 70s too, along with
> Dune they were books that stuck with me that i've
> often gone back to for more re-reads than any other.
>

Â*Â* But , but , Asimov's Foundation series ! I was always a hard SciFi
fan , but then Pern , Xanth , and Heinlein's future histories were also
part of my range of interests .
>
> songbird



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On 3/22/2019 9:33 PM, graham wrote:
> On 2019-03-22 7:30 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>> On 3/22/2019 9:15 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2019-03-22 7:01 p.m., songbird wrote:
>>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> Â*Â* dvds i can see there being a demand issue that it
>>>> would be reasonable for some of the newer ones to
>>>> have a limit.Â* we currently have about a dozen dvds
>>>> checked out to watch (that is about all Mom watches
>>>> at night now).
>>>>
>>>
>>> So, while you have a dozen DVDs sitting around waiting to be seen
>>> someone else could have been watching them.
>>>

>>
>> Dave, it sounds to me as if she's checked them out because her mother
>> might want to watch them.Â* Sometimes, when parents get to a certain
>> age you do what you have to do to keep them entertained.Â* If that
>> means having a choice of DVD's on hand, so be it.Â* I'm sure if the
>> library had a problem with it they'd tell her.
>>
>> Jill
>>
>>

> Furthermore, someone might be ill/disabled and watches tv many hours per
> day.


Yep. For all we know she might binge watch sevral DVD's per night. 12
in a week could be nothing. Then returned and more checked out.

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Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2019-03-22 7:01 p.m., songbird wrote:
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>> ...
>>> I have to wonder about some of the parents I see with their kids at the
>>> library. They go to the checkout and each kid has more than a dozen
>>> books. I appreciate that the kids are interested in reading, but I think
>>> that is really abusing a free service. They can take a few, read them,
>>> bring them back and get some more. Leave something for other people.
>>> People abuse the DVDs too. One day the woman checking out ahead of me
>>> had more than 2 dozen videos. That's more than three videos a day for
>>> the one week loan period. I would have no problem with a 3 movie limit.

>>
>> as a previous librarian i would always be happy to
>> check out as many books as a person could keep track
>> of and reliably return on time and in good condition.

>
> That would be the key. It must be hard to keep track of more than 20 books.
>>
>> children's books are fairly short. i've seen some
>> families check out 50-100 books for several kids. i
>> was happy. i loved that they were reading and being
>> read to. it also helped in that it kept space on
>> shelves. that library wasn't that big - it has moved
>> the past few years so that is very nice to have more
>> space.
>>
>> i have a set of books i need to ask them if they
>> want back now that they have more space. it would
>> free up a whole shelf for me if they did.
>>
>> dvds i can see there being a demand issue that it
>> would be reasonable for some of the newer ones to
>> have a limit. we currently have about a dozen dvds
>> checked out to watch (that is about all Mom watches
>> at night now).
>>

>
> So, while you have a dozen DVDs sitting around waiting to be seen
> someone else could have been watching them.
>
>


Yep, should be a capital offense. String her up.




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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 3/22/2019 3:27 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
>> On 3/22/2019 10:41 AM, wrote:
>>> On Fri, 22 Mar 2019 10:37:20 -0500, Terry Coombs >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/22/2019 10:01 AM,
wrote:
>>>>> The reason that I came in here as an ass was because
>>>> You ARE an ass .
>>> Thank you, and I am proud of it...
>>>
>>> But what I fail to realize is that if you are offended by my position
>>> and the things that I know to be true then why are you still reading
>>> and responding to my posts. They should have no interest to you or
>>> anyone else that believes that fairies are real.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> ____/~~~sine qua non~~~\____

>>
>> I have never expressed my beliefs here ... and so you are talking
>> out of your ass . AND I have also never expressed any offense about
>> your personal beliefs . You are pretty defensive about your beliefs ,
>> maybe (deity of choice) is trying to get your attention ... actually I
>> find you mildly amusing . As Wm Shakespeare put it "Methinks the lady
>> doth protest too much." . These comments are certified 100% gluten-free .
>>

>
> I only read gluten free comments.
>
> Mr. Killer is just a little boy that probably could not make it in life
> so he uses shock to draw attention to himself. Sad, really. Maybe he
> was fathered by a priest.


Or Popeye




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Terry Coombs wrote:
....
> Â*Â* But , but , Asimov's Foundation series ! I was always a hard SciFi
> fan , but then Pern , Xanth , and Heinlein's future histories were also
> part of my range of interests .


well sure those were good reads, but i liked many
others besides.

i don't watch tv and haven't for many years. if
it weren't for books i'd have been in sad shape
(before the age of the internet came along)...

Xanth was fun for a while, i liked a lot of Piers
Anthony's books and collected most of them and then
i thought i was going to move so i got rid of a lot
of my book collection and then a few weeks later it
turned out i didn't move so i had to try to get a
decent book collection built up again. a few of
those books i never have found again.

for hard science fiction i like Robert Forward's
books, but in recent times there've not been too
many author's i've followed much. Alistair Reynolds
is one i do like a lot.

in the elder days i like Saberhagen's Berzerker
series and, Gordon Dickson's books and ...

i like to put some fantasy books in from time to
time just to keep some variety too.

i keep a nice collection of all sort of things
here at home just in case of the end-times and
also things i like to re-read and too many old
college text-books that have no meaning to me now
other than i spent way too much for them and hate to
think of turning them into worm food, but for most
of them they are so out of date (computer science
texts) they really aren't worth anything or even
worth reading through again. i do have a paper
shredder for working through my old college notes
and stuff i should get rid of to free up some more
space, but that project is some time in the future
as right now i'm sorting beans and getting ready
for spring planting/projects.


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jmcquown wrote:
> On 3/22/2019 9:33 PM, graham wrote:
>> On 2019-03-22 7:30 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 3/22/2019 9:15 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 2019-03-22 7:01 p.m., songbird wrote:
>>>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>> Â*Â* dvds i can see there being a demand issue that it
>>>>> would be reasonable for some of the newer ones to
>>>>> have a limit.Â* we currently have about a dozen dvds
>>>>> checked out to watch (that is about all Mom watches
>>>>> at night now).
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So, while you have a dozen DVDs sitting around waiting to be seen
>>>> someone else could have been watching them.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Dave, it sounds to me as if she's checked them out because her mother


he's


>>> might want to watch them.Â* Sometimes, when parents get to a certain
>>> age you do what you have to do to keep them entertained.Â* If that
>>> means having a choice of DVD's on hand, so be it.Â* I'm sure if the
>>> library had a problem with it they'd tell her.


Mom's in reasonable shape and doing well, she's checked
them out herself. i don't watch tv much, but i often listen
to the stuff she watches as i'm reading/or doing things on
the computer here. though recently i did get sucked into
the series Billions. that is done for now until the next
season comes out on dvd. she's watching _Keeping Up Appearances
_ now. i can ignore that, but bits of it are pretty funny.


>> Furthermore, someone might be ill/disabled and watches tv many hours per
>> day.

>
> Yep. For all we know she might binge watch sevral DVD's per night. 12
> in a week could be nothing. Then returned and more checked out.


normally she's busy during the day making lap quilts
for vets/hospice or doing other things and then watches
t.v. and naps until she wakes up to go to bed... once
spring/summer kicks in we're outside more in the gardens
as we have almost an acre of various things here to keep
after or mess around with. always plenty of projects to
keep us busy.


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On 2019-03-22 9:09 p.m., Hank Rogers wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2019-03-22 7:01 p.m., songbird wrote:
>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>> ...
>>>> I have to wonder about some of the parents I see with their kids at the
>>>> library.Â* They go to the checkout and each kid has more than a dozen
>>>> books. I appreciate that the kids are interested in reading, but I
>>>> think
>>>> that is really abusing a free service.Â* They can take a few, read them,
>>>> bring them back and getÂ* some more. Leave something for other people.
>>>> People abuse theÂ* DVDs too. One day the woman checking out ahead of me
>>>> had more than 2 dozen videos.Â*Â* That's more than three videos a day for
>>>> the one week loan period.Â* I would have no problem with a 3 movie
>>>> limit.
>>>
>>> Â*Â* as a previous librarian i would always be happy to
>>> check out as many books as a person could keep track
>>> of and reliably return on time and in good condition.

>>
>> That would be the key. It must be hard to keep track of more than 20
>> books.
>>>
>>> Â*Â* children's books are fairly short.Â* i've seen some
>>> families check out 50-100 books for several kids.Â* i
>>> was happy.Â* i loved that they were reading and being
>>> read to.Â* it also helped in that it kept space on
>>> shelves.Â* that library wasn't that big - it has moved
>>> the past few years so that is very nice to have more
>>> space.
>>>
>>> Â*Â* i have a set of books i need to ask them if they
>>> want back now that they have more space.Â* it would
>>> free up a whole shelf for me if they did.
>>>
>>> Â*Â* dvds i can see there being a demand issue that it
>>> would be reasonable for some of the newer ones to
>>> have a limit.Â* we currently have about a dozen dvds
>>> checked out to watch (that is about all Mom watches
>>> at night now).
>>>

>>
>> So, while you have a dozen DVDs sitting around waiting to be seen
>> someone else could have been watching them.
>>
>>

>
> Yep, should be a capital offense. String her up.
>

No! Make her read all of Dave's posts that have appeared over the last,
say, six months:-)
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Dave Smith wrote:
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> So, while you have a dozen DVDs sitting around waiting to be seen
> someone else could have been watching them.


considering we've been buying them for the
library to begin with i think it only fair to
be able to watch them once in a while.

you do know that a lot of series come in
boxes of several disks to begin with so you
can't check just one out anyways? and also
it's a trip to town for us (not a nice walk as
it has been for me in the past when i've
lived in town) so it's not always good to have
to run out to town and back.

either ways, we're pretty good about watching
things and getting them back within a week or
two. which is about how it goes for most books
(i'm a pretty fast reader for fiction anyways).

still, i guess you really don't get the idea
of what a library is about or the fact that if
an item is checked out a person can request
another copy from another library and read that
one (same with dvds).

i may not really think in the case of many
taxes that i don't get much use out of them but
the library is one where we certainly do and i
hope it will continue. the recent election
passed a small increase in funding so that was
a good sign the community supports it.


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jmcquown wrote:
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> Yep, I prefer to conjur up the images myself rather than have some movie
> producer's take on how a character should look. Movies have their
> place, of course. I just love to read!


meep too!

with the internet and all the chattering i can do
sometimes i'm not always reading books as much as i
used to, but i still go on streaks where i'll re-read
my own books or get some from the library or now they
have some e-books i can read so that can be a way to
try out someone new without having to run out to town.


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"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
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> On 2019-03-22 2:34 p.m., Jinx the Minx wrote:
>> graham > wrote:
>>> I treat my grandchildren to books at any time. I don't consider them as
>>> luxuries but necessities.
>>>

>>
>> Me too. I buy my daughter all the books she wants. I view it as an
>> investment in her future. I just wish shed take an interest in reading
>> some of my childhood favorite books. :-)

>
> I was never much of a reader when I was a kid. I didn't care much for kids
> books, kids movies or cartoons. I do lots of reading now, usually at
> least a book a week. We made sure to read to our son every night and he
> became a very avid reader. While we bought him lots of books over the
> years we encouraged him to use the library.
>
> I have to wonder about some of the parents I see with their kids at the
> library. They go to the checkout and each kid has more than a dozen
> books. I appreciate that the kids are interested in reading, but I think
> that is really abusing a free service. They can take a few, read them,
> bring them back and get some more. Leave something for other people.
> People abuse the DVDs too. One day the woman checking out ahead of me had
> more than 2 dozen videos. That's more than three videos a day for the
> one week loan period. I would have no problem with a 3 movie limit.


I outgrew kids books very quickly and was reading adult books in the 2nd
grade.

I no longer go to the library. I did go as a child and young adult but I
quit going when I felt I had read everything of interest. It was not
uncommon for me to get 10-12 books at a time. We could check them out for
two weeks at a time. I could easily read them all by then. I'm a very fast
reader and unless the book is unusually long, can finish it in two ours or
less.

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"Bruce" > wrote in message
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> On Fri, 22 Mar 2019 15:17:47 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>>On 2019-03-22 2:34 p.m., Jinx the Minx wrote:
>>> graham > wrote:
>>>> I treat my grandchildren to books at any time. I don't consider them as
>>>> luxuries but necessities.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Me too. I buy my daughter all the books she wants. I view it as an
>>> investment in her future. I just wish she'd take an interest in reading
>>> some of my childhood favorite books. :-)

>>
>>I was never much of a reader when I was a kid. I didn't care much for
>>kids books, kids movies or cartoons. I do lots of reading now, usually
>>at least a book a week. We made sure to read to our son every night
>>and he became a very avid reader. While we bought him lots of books
>>over the years we encouraged him to use the library.
>>
>>I have to wonder about some of the parents I see with their kids at the
>>library. They go to the checkout and each kid has more than a dozen
>>books. I appreciate that the kids are interested in reading, but I think
>>that is really abusing a free service. They can take a few, read them,
>>bring them back and get some more. Leave something for other people.
>>People abuse the DVDs too. One day the woman checking out ahead of me
>>had more than 2 dozen videos. That's more than three videos a day for
>>the one week loan period. I would have no problem with a 3 movie limit.

>
> The art of bitching. Bitching about how many books children borrow at
> the library. Unbelievable!


Agree!

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On Fri, 22 Mar 2019 20:05:28 -0500, Hank Rogers >
wrote:

wrote:
>> On Fri, 22 Mar 2019 14:08:53 -0700 (PDT), GM
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oh **** that I am extremely amusing.....
>>>
>>>
>>> Uh, no, you being on SSDI for mental defections -- and thus being a useless lay - a - bout -- you are simply HIGH as a COOT on these free Medicaid psych meds you are addicted to...

>>
>>
>> Good one....
>>
>> Sorry I have no need to psych meds, I do however take a beta blocker
>> because my heart has issues. Other than that I do take the free
>> vitamins that I get through humana. And I also use the free band aids,
>> the free triple antibiotic ointment, I also use the free blood o2
>> thingie... Hmm lets see AHH yes the free heartburn relief, the free
>> melatonin that does not do shit for me but since I have them and they
>> were free I should at least use them..... Then there are the gauze
>> pads that are free the asprin ibuprofen, calcium,antioxidants, B
>> complex vitamins, allergy meds.... butt cream, lotion, gasoline,
>> electricity,chlorine for my pool, power steering fluid cause my car
>> has a leak, but Actually told them that I drink it because it helps
>> lube up my neck.
>>
>>
>> Game over Please insert 25 cents
>>
>> --
>>
>> ____/~~~sine qua non~~~\____
>>

>
>Howdy couain! I see you are a member of the church of christ ... One
>cuppers ... no sunday school ... no jewelry or dancing ... twice
>reformed ...


Is that like refried?
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On Fri, 22 Mar 2019 22:09:54 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
>> On 2019-03-22 2:34 p.m., Jinx the Minx wrote:
>>> graham > wrote:
>>>> I treat my grandchildren to books at any time. I don't consider them as
>>>> luxuries but necessities.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Me too. I buy my daughter all the books she wants. I view it as an
>>> investment in her future. I just wish she’d take an interest in reading
>>> some of my childhood favorite books. :-)

>>
>> I was never much of a reader when I was a kid. I didn't care much for kids
>> books, kids movies or cartoons. I do lots of reading now, usually at
>> least a book a week. We made sure to read to our son every night and he
>> became a very avid reader. While we bought him lots of books over the
>> years we encouraged him to use the library.
>>
>> I have to wonder about some of the parents I see with their kids at the
>> library. They go to the checkout and each kid has more than a dozen
>> books. I appreciate that the kids are interested in reading, but I think
>> that is really abusing a free service. They can take a few, read them,
>> bring them back and get some more. Leave something for other people.
>> People abuse the DVDs too. One day the woman checking out ahead of me had
>> more than 2 dozen videos. That's more than three videos a day for the
>> one week loan period. I would have no problem with a 3 movie limit.

>
>I outgrew kids books very quickly and was reading adult books in the 2nd
>grade.
>
>I no longer go to the library. I did go as a child and young adult but I
>quit going when I felt I had read everything of interest. It was not
>uncommon for me to get 10-12 books at a time. We could check them out for
>two weeks at a time. I could easily read them all by then. I'm a very fast
>reader and unless the book is unusually long, can finish it in two ours or
>less.


I switched to ebooks. It turns out there are whole binary newsgroups
where authors are giving their books away!
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wrote:
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>> Oh **** that I am extremely amusing.....

>
>
>Uh, no, you being on SSDI for mental defections -- and thus being
>a useless lay - a - bout -- you are simply HIGH as a COOT on these
>free Medicaid psych meds you are addicted to...


You say that as if it's a bad thing.


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On Friday, March 22, 2019 at 4:44:31 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Mar 2019 08:45:58 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:


> >It's a tough sell telling someone who's been cooking for longer than
> >you've been alive that you know better than they do.

>
> wow there are people here over 90ish? Damn I am impressed....
> I saw a man over a hundred jogging on tv the other day..
>
>
> you assumed that I was 40 or on the lower end of 40...


No, I assumed you were in your 50s. I've been cooking for more than
50 years, and I'm by no means the oldest person here.

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On Saturday, March 23, 2019 at 1:10:11 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message


> I no longer go to the library. I did go as a child and young adult but I
> quit going when I felt I had read everything of interest.


Apparently the publishing industry has packed it in and no more books
are being purchased by libraries.

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On 2019-03-23 4:15 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Saturday, March 23, 2019 at 1:10:11 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message

>
>> I no longer go to the library. I did go as a child and young adult but I
>> quit going when I felt I had read everything of interest.

>
> Apparently the publishing industry has packed it in and no more books
> are being purchased by libraries.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

Not so in Calgary which has the most heavily used library system in
N.America.
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"Bruce" wrote in message ...

On Fri, 22 Mar 2019 22:09:54 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
>> On 2019-03-22 2:34 p.m., Jinx the Minx wrote:
>>> graham > wrote:
>>>> I treat my grandchildren to books at any time. I don't consider them as
>>>> luxuries but necessities.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Me too. I buy my daughter all the books she wants. I view it as an
>>> investment in her future. I just wish shed take an interest in reading
>>> some of my childhood favorite books. :-)

>>
>> I was never much of a reader when I was a kid. I didn't care much for
>> kids
>> books, kids movies or cartoons. I do lots of reading now, usually at
>> least a book a week. We made sure to read to our son every night and he
>> became a very avid reader. While we bought him lots of books over the
>> years we encouraged him to use the library.
>>
>> I have to wonder about some of the parents I see with their kids at the
>> library. They go to the checkout and each kid has more than a dozen
>> books. I appreciate that the kids are interested in reading, but I think
>> that is really abusing a free service. They can take a few, read them,
>> bring them back and get some more. Leave something for other people.
>> People abuse the DVDs too. One day the woman checking out ahead of me
>> had
>> more than 2 dozen videos. That's more than three videos a day for the
>> one week loan period. I would have no problem with a 3 movie limit.

>
>I outgrew kids books very quickly and was reading adult books in the 2nd
>grade.
>
>I no longer go to the library. I did go as a child and young adult but I
>quit going when I felt I had read everything of interest. It was not
>uncommon for me to get 10-12 books at a time. We could check them out for
>two weeks at a time. I could easily read them all by then. I'm a very fast
>reader and unless the book is unusually long, can finish it in two ours or
>less.


I switched to ebooks. It turns out there are whole binary newsgroups
where authors are giving their books away!

==

I have ebooks too. Something to read on my phone if I am having to wait
somewhere.




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We grew up with books all around; we had an elderly second cousin who was a librarian at the Oak
Park, Illinois, library, and we always got books for birthday and Christmas gifts. I remember
that all us kids complained about getting books as gifts, but apparently, it rubbed off on us. I
think every one of us four would read a cereal box if that was all there was to read. ;-))

We did have one rule, though: no books at the dinner table....until dessert. LOL.

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On 2019-03-22 11:26 p.m., songbird wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
> ...
>> So, while you have a dozen DVDs sitting around waiting to be seen
>> someone else could have been watching them.

>
> considering we've been buying them for the
> library to begin with i think it only fair to
> be able to watch them once in a while.


Sure, but I think there should be reasonable limits on the number that
one person can take out. I had pointed out the case of a woman taking
our more than 20 DVDs, and the family where the kids each had 20 or more
books. They have limits on loan periods, so it is perfectly reasonable
to have limits on items borrowed.




>
> you do know that a lot of series come in
> boxes of several disks to begin with so you
> can't check just one out anyways? and also
> it's a trip to town for us (not a nice walk as
> it has been for me in the past when i've
> lived in town) so it's not always good to have
> to run out to town and back.


In the nice weather it is a three mile bicycle ride (each way) so I can
kill two birds with one stone. During the winter there is often reason
to be going to or through town.




> still, i guess you really don't get the idea
> of what a library is about or the fact that if
> an item is checked out a person can request
> another copy from another library and read that
> one (same with dvds).


Actually, I do get the idea of what a library is about. It is a public
resource that buys books and other media to be shared by the members of
the community. We do have inter library loans, but it takes time to get
the books from the other libraries.



>
> i may not really think in the case of many
> taxes that i don't get much use out of them but
> the library is one where we certainly do and i
> hope it will continue. the recent election
> passed a small increase in funding so that was
> a good sign the community supports it.
>


FIW I am on the board of a non profit that organizes an art festival
that raises money for the arts in the community and for the library.
Each year we donate $10,000 to the library to be used for special projects.
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On 2019-03-23 9:56 a.m., heyjoe wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 03:15:53 -0700 (PDT)
> in Message-ID:
> >
> Cindy Hamilton > wrote :
>
>> no more books
>> are being purchased by libraries.

>
> That's not the case here. Multiple copies of at least a dozen newly
> written books by popular authors are purchased each month. Often,
> there's a waiting list to check out the really popular authors.
>



Our town library is certainly buying lots of new books. The first row
of shelves is the new material and there is a constant turnover there.
they seem to have slowed down a bit on DVD acquisitions. Maybe they are
concerned about a change of format. It wasn't that long ago they were
buying VHS. Sadly, they stopped buying CDs and disposed of those they had.

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On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 16:21:45 +1100, Bruce >
wrote:

>On Fri, 22 Mar 2019 20:05:28 -0500, Hank Rogers >
>wrote:
>
wrote:
>>> On Fri, 22 Mar 2019 14:08:53 -0700 (PDT), GM
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Oh **** that I am extremely amusing.....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Uh, no, you being on SSDI for mental defections -- and thus being a useless lay - a - bout -- you are simply HIGH as a COOT on these free Medicaid psych meds you are addicted to...
>>>
>>>
>>> Good one....
>>>
>>> Sorry I have no need to psych meds, I do however take a beta blocker
>>> because my heart has issues. Other than that I do take the free
>>> vitamins that I get through humana. And I also use the free band aids,
>>> the free triple antibiotic ointment, I also use the free blood o2
>>> thingie... Hmm lets see AHH yes the free heartburn relief, the free
>>> melatonin that does not do shit for me but since I have them and they
>>> were free I should at least use them..... Then there are the gauze
>>> pads that are free the asprin ibuprofen, calcium,antioxidants, B
>>> complex vitamins, allergy meds.... butt cream, lotion, gasoline,
>>> electricity,chlorine for my pool, power steering fluid cause my car
>>> has a leak, but Actually told them that I drink it because it helps
>>> lube up my neck.
>>>
>>>
>>> Game over Please insert 25 cents
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> ____/~~~sine qua non~~~\____
>>>

>>
>>Howdy couain! I see you are a member of the church of christ ... One
>>cuppers ... no sunday school ... no jewelry or dancing ... twice
>>reformed ...

>
>Is that like refried?



NAh man the refried ones are way more gassy

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On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 13:48:34 GMT, Pamela >
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>On 21:26 22 Mar 2019, wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 22 Mar 2019 14:08:53 -0700 (PDT), GM
>> > wrote:
>>
wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oh **** that I am extremely amusing.....
>>>
>>>
>>>Uh, no, you being on SSDI for mental defections -- and thus being a
>>>useless lay - a - bout -- you are simply HIGH as a COOT on these free
>>>Medicaid psych meds you are addicted to...

>>
>>
>> Good one....
>>
>> Sorry I have no need to psych meds, I do however take a beta blocker
>> because my heart has issues. Other than that I do take the free
>> vitamins that I get through humana. And I also use the free band aids,
>> the free triple antibiotic ointment, I also use the free blood o2
>> thingie... Hmm lets see AHH yes the free heartburn relief, the free
>> melatonin that does not do shit for me but since I have them and they
>> were free I should at least use them..... Then there are the gauze
>> pads that are free the asprin ibuprofen, calcium,antioxidants, B
>> complex vitamins, allergy meds.... butt cream, lotion, gasoline,
>> electricity,chlorine for my pool, power steering fluid cause my car
>> has a leak, but Actually told them that I drink it because it helps
>> lube up my neck.

>
>I hate to tell you but all that isn't keeping keep away your gluten-induced
>psychosis.


Look this message is to all the morons out there that may or may not
read this....

The Gluten diet fad has passed, actually it was out long ago, a few
months at least. What is left now is the people that have actually
come to realize they hey they do have a problem with gluten and for
the first time in their life they are living without dry skin every
****ing day of their life... Or what the **** ever that ailed them
that was caused by a gluten intolerance.

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On Saturday, March 23, 2019 at 5:15:56 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> On Saturday, March 23, 2019 at 1:10:11 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> > I no longer go to the library. I did go as a child and young adult but I
> > quit going when I felt I had read everything of interest.

>
> Apparently the publishing industry has packed it in and no more books
> are being purchased by libraries.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

TOO funny! I guess I better tell that used bookstore I frequent they should
be putting a sign in their window "Going Out of Business" and lock their doors.

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On Saturday, March 23, 2019 at 12:10:11 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> I no longer go to the library. I did go as a child and young adult but I
> quit going when I felt I had read everything of interest.
>

NOW I know why you are so utterly stupid and always will be.
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On Saturday, March 23, 2019 at 8:03:19 AM UTC-5, graham wrote:
>
> On 2019-03-23 4:15 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, March 23, 2019 at 1:10:11 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> >> I no longer go to the library. I did go as a child and young adult but I
> >> quit going when I felt I had read everything of interest.

> >
> > Apparently the publishing industry has packed it in and no more books
> > are being purchased by libraries.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >

> Not so in Calgary which has the most heavily used library system in
> N.America.
>

She was being snarky to Ju-Ju, our resident village idiot.
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On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 14:01:24 +1100, Bruce >
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>On Fri, 22 Mar 2019 20:29:16 -0500,
wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 08:59:02 +1100, Bruce >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 22 Mar 2019 16:37:36 -0500,
wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 22 Mar 2019 11:17:49 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 2019-03-22 9:39 a.m., Terry Coombs wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some kids do still read ... our grandkids (all 5 of 'em) are very
>>>>>> disappointed if they don't get books as gifts for occasions like
>>>>>> birthdays or Christmas .
>>>>>>
>>>>>I treat my grandchildren to books at any time. I don't consider them as
>>>>>luxuries but necessities.
>>>>
>>>>books are the best gift to get, I mean actual books not the ebook
>>>>crap.... Have you ever tried to regift an ebook... I tried to do that
>>>>once and broke my damn printer.
>>>
>>>Ebooks are great. You buy them, download them right away, read them
>>>and delete them. And I have no idea what your printer had to with it
>>>

>>
>>
>>.... hmmmm....
>>
>>Regifting an ebook....
>>printers......
>>hmmmm.....
>>
>>think about it for a minute you will get it

>
>Don't tell me you print ebooks to give them to someone else.


are you still missing the pun.. (regifting) ebooks???????

FOR THE LOVE OF A NON EXISTENT GOD.. IT IS AN EBOOK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If I printed it out it would no longer be an ebook...

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Terry Coombs wrote:
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> Â Some kids do still read ... our grandkids (all 5 of 'em) are very
> disappointed if they don't get books as gifts for occasions like
> birthdays or Christmas .


IMO, books are always a great gift. Real paper books, not
E-Books. I think this digital age has gone too far and nuts.
Doomed to crash and fail someday. Even my library is failing
these days.

One thing I read years ago was about parents discouraging their
young children from reading "worthless" comic books. I sure do
disagree there. Kids should be encouraged to read anything, imo.
I started out with them and loved my weekly comic book or two
(12cents each then). And I still have them all too with a little
bit of value now.

Anyway, that got me loving to read. The comics started the
reading habit. Then I started to read books without pictures. I
eventually quit the comics and I've read every single day for the
rest of my life. I like them all. I usually have 2 books going at
a time, one fiction and also a non-fiction one. Gives me 2
choices each night.


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> I've been cooking for more than
> 50 years,


and STILL can't get it right! (JK, Cindy)
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On Saturday, March 23, 2019 at 10:50:40 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2019-03-23 9:56 a.m., heyjoe wrote:
> > On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 03:15:53 -0700 (PDT)
> > in Message-ID:
> > >
> > Cindy Hamilton > wrote :
> >
> >> no more books
> >> are being purchased by libraries.

> >
> > That's not the case here. Multiple copies of at least a dozen newly
> > written books by popular authors are purchased each month. Often,
> > there's a waiting list to check out the really popular authors.
> >

>
>
> Our town library is certainly buying lots of new books. The first row
> of shelves is the new material and there is a constant turnover there.
> they seem to have slowed down a bit on DVD acquisitions. Maybe they are
> concerned about a change of format. It wasn't that long ago they were
> buying VHS. Sadly, they stopped buying CDs and disposed of those they had.


When will I learn to eschew sarcasm on Usenet? It just doesn't
play here.

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On Saturday, March 23, 2019 at 11:56:48 AM UTC-4, wrote:

> The Gluten diet fad has passed, actually it was out long ago, a few
> months at least. What is left now is the people that have actually
> come to realize they hey they do have a problem with gluten and for
> the first time in their life they are living without dry skin every
> ****ing day of their life... Or what the **** ever that ailed them
> that was caused by a gluten intolerance.


Those of use who don't have dry skin will have to find something
else to blame on gluten, eh?

Ob Food: Lunch today was a "deconstructed" chicken salad sandwich:
good white bread spread with mayo (Hellman's), sliced celery, a
little very thinly sliced onion, sliced chicken breast, salt and
pepper.

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On 2019-03-23 10:35 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Saturday, March 23, 2019 at 10:50:40 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2019-03-23 9:56 a.m., heyjoe wrote:
>>> On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 03:15:53 -0700 (PDT)
>>> in Message-ID:
>>> >
>>> Cindy Hamilton > wrote :
>>>
>>>> no more books
>>>> are being purchased by libraries.
>>>
>>> That's not the case here. Multiple copies of at least a dozen newly
>>> written books by popular authors are purchased each month. Often,
>>> there's a waiting list to check out the really popular authors.
>>>

>>
>>
>> Our town library is certainly buying lots of new books. The first row
>> of shelves is the new material and there is a constant turnover there.
>> they seem to have slowed down a bit on DVD acquisitions. Maybe they are
>> concerned about a change of format. It wasn't that long ago they were
>> buying VHS. Sadly, they stopped buying CDs and disposed of those they had.

>
> When will I learn to eschew sarcasm on Usenet? It just doesn't
> play here.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

Sorry! I didn't see the Bovine post!!
Christ! What a moron she is!
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On Saturday, March 23, 2019 at 12:42:17 PM UTC-4, graham wrote:
> On 2019-03-23 10:35 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Saturday, March 23, 2019 at 10:50:40 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> On 2019-03-23 9:56 a.m., heyjoe wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 03:15:53 -0700 (PDT)
> >>> in Message-ID:
> >>> >
> >>> Cindy Hamilton > wrote :
> >>>
> >>>> no more books
> >>>> are being purchased by libraries.
> >>>
> >>> That's not the case here. Multiple copies of at least a dozen newly
> >>> written books by popular authors are purchased each month. Often,
> >>> there's a waiting list to check out the really popular authors.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> Our town library is certainly buying lots of new books. The first row
> >> of shelves is the new material and there is a constant turnover there.
> >> they seem to have slowed down a bit on DVD acquisitions. Maybe they are
> >> concerned about a change of format. It wasn't that long ago they were
> >> buying VHS. Sadly, they stopped buying CDs and disposed of those they had.

> >
> > When will I learn to eschew sarcasm on Usenet? It just doesn't
> > play here.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >

> Sorry! I didn't see the Bovine post!!
> Christ! What a moron she is!


She really is. I used to think she was the most incurious, deliberately
ignorant person in the world. Donald Trump now holds that title.

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