"dsi1" wrote in message
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On Sunday, December 2, 2018 at 10:03:32 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Sunday, December 2, 2018 at 3:22:03 AM UTC-10, notbob wrote:
> > On 12/1/2018 12:57 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > > On Saturday, December 1, 2018 at 2:11:34 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> >
> > >> https://www.souschef.co.uk/products/...t-dashi-powder
> >
> > > The dashi is pretty much the stuff I get.
> >
> > Dashi --for those who don't know-- is dried bonita fish flakes soaked in
> > water with Kombu, a type of dried seaweed. The resulting broth is used
> > in most everything Japanese (soups/dishes).
> >
> > I started to buy some dashi makin's (dried seaweed, dried skip-jack tuna
> > (bonita) flakes), when the store's proprietor recommended "instant
> > dashi". This, in San Jose's "Japan Town".
> >
> > Penzey's sells it. Another source, online, offers instant dashi with or
> > without MSG. I have found Knorr's Fish Bullion cubes to be quite
> > similar in flavor.
> >
> > "Instant dashi" (which typically comes in foil packets) is a bit easier
> > to manage than "natural" dashi, which can turn out quite bitter, due to
> > too much Kombu use. It's usually more consistent.
> >
> > nb
>
> The last time I made dashi using katsuobushi and kombu was 50 years ago. I
> wasn't real impressed with the result so I don't have any problem with the
> instant stuff. Perhaps I'll try it one more time - in around 50 years.
>
> =
>
> My dashi is supposed to arrive tomorrow) I will be back to ask loads
> of
> questions no doubt))))

There's not much to it. Just dissolve in about 4 cups of water. If you're
familiar with Japanese food, you'll recognize the flavor right off - it's an
important flavor note in the cuisine.


But I am not! We have a lot to learn It is all good))


You can add some shoyu, sugar, and salt, depending on what you're trying to
get. You need some salt and/or shoyu to make it work. I used a pack of the
stuff last night. It's supposed to be a free flowing powder but sometimes
you get one that's hardened. That's the way it was last night. Not a
problem, I just used it anyway and it was fine.

Thanks There will be experiments here when it arrives, which seems to
be for tomorrow)

On 2 Dec 2018, dsi1 wrote
(in >):

> On Saturday, December 1, 2018 at 8:03:50 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...
> >
> > On 12/1/2018 4:31 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message news > > > On 12/1/2018 2:59 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> > >
> > > > ==
> > > >
> > > > Just a comment to fruity. US 'butt' is UK 'shoulder'. I expect you do
> > > > know, but JIC
> > >
> > > Actually, it is a part of the shoulder. A shoulder splits to two parts,
> > > the butt and the picnic. often called picnic shoulder and sometimes cured
> > > to be a picnic ham.
> > > ==
> > >
> > > Ahh! That is new too) Thank you)
> > >
> > > So, which bit is which?
> > Upper portion
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_butt
> >
> > ==
> >
> > Oh! Thank you) It still sounds odd to us though, because a 'butt' is ones
> > behind <g>
>
> A butt in the US is also a person's ass - and I'm not talking about a pack
> animal. That fact, always cracks up kids who are just learning about cuts of
> meat. Heck, I still think it's funny. What's funny for Americans is that the
> Brits think that "fanny" isn't referring to one's behind.

We Brits can cope with you laughing; but just never come to the UK and say
€œdoes my fanny look big in these jeans?€�

In fact, to be on the safe side - never mention the word fanny in the UK at
all.

On Sun, 02 Dec 2018 21:37:52 +0000, Fruitiest of Fruitcakes
> wrote:

>On 2 Dec 2018, dsi1 wrote
>(in >):
>
>> On Saturday, December 1, 2018 at 8:03:50 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> > "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...
>> >
>> > On 12/1/2018 4:31 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message news >> > > On 12/1/2018 2:59 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > ==
>> > > >
>> > > > Just a comment to fruity. US 'butt' is UK 'shoulder'. I expect you do
>> > > > know, but JIC
>> > >
>> > > Actually, it is a part of the shoulder. A shoulder splits to two parts,
>> > > the butt and the picnic. often called picnic shoulder and sometimes cured
>> > > to be a picnic ham.
>> > > ==
>> > >
>> > > Ahh! That is new too) Thank you)
>> > >
>> > > So, which bit is which?
>> > Upper portion
>> >
>> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_butt
>> >
>> > ==
>> >
>> > Oh! Thank you) It still sounds odd to us though, because a 'butt' is ones
>> > behind <g>
>>
>> A butt in the US is also a person's ass - and I'm not talking about a pack
>> animal. That fact, always cracks up kids who are just learning about cuts of
>> meat. Heck, I still think it's funny. What's funny for Americans is that the
>> Brits think that "fanny" isn't referring to one's behind.
>
>We Brits can cope with you laughing; but just never come to the UK and say
>“does my fanny look big in these jeans?”
>
>In fact, to be on the safe side - never mention the word fanny in the UK at
>all.

Don't even ask the question. If you're American, the answer is yes.

On Sat, 1 Dec 2018 15:44:04 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 12/1/2018 2:59 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>
>> ==
>>
>> Just a comment to fruity.* US 'butt' is UK 'shoulder'.* I expect you do
>> know, but JIC
>
>Actually, it is a part of the shoulder. A shoulder splits to two parts,
>the butt and the picnic. often called picnic shoulder and sometimes
>cured to be a picnic ham.

I'd have thought picnic shoulder was a form of RSI.

On Thu, 29 Nov 2018 11:54:05 -0500, songbird >
wrote:

>Fruitiest of Fruitcakes wrote:
>...
>> I have mentioned my dislike of vinegar elsewhere, but I love the little pots
>> of lime pickle I get in Indian restaurants.
>>
>> I will dip any item from the menu in that.
>
> if you search the history and my handle you'll
>find a recipe for an Indian Garlic pickle that i
>like. stuff is great if you like garlic.

Garlic pickle, Indian or otherwise, sounds very interesting.

"Fruitiest of Fruitcakes" wrote in message
news.com...

On 2 Dec 2018, dsi1 wrote
(in >):

> On Saturday, December 1, 2018 at 8:03:50 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...
> >
> > On 12/1/2018 4:31 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
> > > news > > > On 12/1/2018 2:59 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> > >
> > > > ==
> > > >
> > > > Just a comment to fruity. US 'butt' is UK 'shoulder'. I expect you
> > > > do
> > > > know, but JIC
> > >
> > > Actually, it is a part of the shoulder. A shoulder splits to two
> > > parts,
> > > the butt and the picnic. often called picnic shoulder and sometimes
> > > cured
> > > to be a picnic ham.
> > > ==
> > >
> > > Ahh! That is new too) Thank you)
> > >
> > > So, which bit is which?
> > Upper portion
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_butt
> >
> > ==
> >
> > Oh! Thank you) It still sounds odd to us though, because a 'butt' is
> > ones
> > behind <g>
>
> A butt in the US is also a person's ass - and I'm not talking about a pack
> animal. That fact, always cracks up kids who are just learning about cuts
> of
> meat. Heck, I still think it's funny. What's funny for Americans is that
> the
> Brits think that "fanny" isn't referring to one's behind.

We Brits can cope with you laughing; but just never come to the UK and say
€œdoes my fanny look big in these jeans?€�

In fact, to be on the safe side - never mention the word fanny in the UK at
all.

==

Yers

On Monday, December 3, 2018 at 5:32:43 AM UTC-10, Fruitiest of Fruitcakes wrote:
> On 2 Dec 2018, dsi1 wrote
> (in >):
>
> > On Saturday, December 1, 2018 at 8:03:50 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ....
> > >
> > > On 12/1/2018 4:31 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message news > > > > On 12/1/2018 2:59 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > ==
> > > > >
> > > > > Just a comment to fruity. US 'butt' is UK 'shoulder'. I expect you do
> > > > > know, but JIC
> > > >
> > > > Actually, it is a part of the shoulder. A shoulder splits to two parts,
> > > > the butt and the picnic. often called picnic shoulder and sometimes cured
> > > > to be a picnic ham.
> > > > ==
> > > >
> > > > Ahh! That is new too) Thank you)
> > > >
> > > > So, which bit is which?
> > > Upper portion
> > >
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_butt
> > >
> > > ==
> > >
> > > Oh! Thank you) It still sounds odd to us though, because a 'butt' is ones
> > > behind <g>
> >
> > A butt in the US is also a person's ass - and I'm not talking about a pack
> > animal. That fact, always cracks up kids who are just learning about cuts of
> > meat. Heck, I still think it's funny. What's funny for Americans is that the
> > Brits think that "fanny" isn't referring to one's behind.
>
> We Brits can cope with you laughing; but just never come to the UK and say
> €œdoes my fanny look big in these jeans?€�
>
> In fact, to be on the safe side - never mention the word fanny in the UK at
> all.

The funny part is that your "fanny" would be the equivalent of the American "pussy." It used to be mostly a taboo word over here but the word has been made more acceptable/accessible by no less than our fearless leader. Praise the Lord!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiPjWUn-PUo

On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 10:58:57 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Monday, December 3, 2018 at 5:32:43 AM UTC-10, Fruitiest of Fruitcakes wrote:
>> On 2 Dec 2018, dsi1 wrote
>> (in >):
>>
>> > On Saturday, December 1, 2018 at 8:03:50 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> > > "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...
>> > >
>> > > On 12/1/2018 4:31 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message news >> > > > On 12/1/2018 2:59 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > ==
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Just a comment to fruity. US 'butt' is UK 'shoulder'. I expect you do
>> > > > > know, but JIC
>> > > >
>> > > > Actually, it is a part of the shoulder. A shoulder splits to two parts,
>> > > > the butt and the picnic. often called picnic shoulder and sometimes cured
>> > > > to be a picnic ham.
>> > > > ==
>> > > >
>> > > > Ahh! That is new too) Thank you)
>> > > >
>> > > > So, which bit is which?
>> > > Upper portion
>> > >
>> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_butt
>> > >
>> > > ==
>> > >
>> > > Oh! Thank you) It still sounds odd to us though, because a 'butt' is ones
>> > > behind <g>
>> >
>> > A butt in the US is also a person's ass - and I'm not talking about a pack
>> > animal. That fact, always cracks up kids who are just learning about cuts of
>> > meat. Heck, I still think it's funny. What's funny for Americans is that the
>> > Brits think that "fanny" isn't referring to one's behind.
>>
>> We Brits can cope with you laughing; but just never come to the UK and say
>> “does my fanny look big in these jeans?”
>>
>> In fact, to be on the safe side - never mention the word fanny in the UK at
>> all.
>
>The funny part is that your "fanny" would be the equivalent of the American "pussy." It used to be mostly a taboo word over here but the word has been made more acceptable/accessible by no less than our fearless leader. Praise the Lord!
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiPjWUn-PUo

President P. Grabber has been geoblocked!

Bruce wrote:
> songbird wrote:
....
>> if you search the history and my handle you'll
>>find a recipe for an Indian Garlic pickle that i
>>like. stuff is great if you like garlic.
>
> Garlic pickle, Indian or otherwise, sounds very interesting.

many years ago i was introduced to it by my
then gf who loved it. a name brand called
Pataks had it and it was about $4/jar. as we
could both eat it straight from the jar that
didn't last very long.

years later, thinking fondly of her (we're still
friends ), i wanted to see if i could recreate
that pickle and eventually i did. at least i came
close enough for my tastes.

i have the file here so i'll just add it:


=====
Subject: recap, (India) garlic pickle
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2018 17:11:53 -0400

i came across some jars of this the other day.
completely forgot about them and they were in my
closet.

it's actually still very good.

i've eaten 2/3rds of a jar of this the past
few days. primary ingredient is indeed garlic.
no vampires to worry about around here.

....
wayback...

Me: Fri Dec 2 10:52:07 2011
Nwsgroups: rec.food.cooking
....
finley-james wrote:
....
> A Google search returned lots of indian garlic pickle recipes.

i found a few after much searching, but
none had all of the same ingredients listed.

anyways, i adapted from one that i
found and it seems to have turned out
well enough.

i'll give it a few weeks to age
and then see.

this is the recipe i started with and
then added on.


======
> http://www.daawat.com/recipes/contri...rlicpickle.htm
>
> Ingredients:
>
> Garlic - 3 cups
> Oil - 5 Table spoons
> Chili Powder - 3 Tea Spoons
> Lemon Juice - 6 tea Spoons
> Salt - As Per Taste
> Mustard Seeds _ 2 Tea Spoons
> Fenugreek Seeds - 1 Tea Spoon
> Turmeric - � Spoon
>
>
> Garlic Pickle
>
>
> Method:
> 1. Fry Garlic in the oil till
> golden brown.
> 2. Fry Mustard and fenugreek
> seeds dry and grind them
> together.
> 3. Mix the salt, chili,
> turmeric and the mustard
> and fenugreek powder with
> the fried garlic.
> 4. After the garlic comes to
> the room temperature mix
> the lemon juice.
> 5. This pickle will stay fresh
> for a month.
> Preparation time: 20
> minutes
>

my additions, i added onion and
the juice of one lemon and lime instead
of just the lemon. plus some coriander,
red chili pepper flakes, green chili
paste (not too much, but enough to
get another dimension to the heat),
cardamom, pineapple pieces, chopped
dates, golden raisins,

all of the fruit was simmered for
a while and then i added the dry
spices to that to get them hydrated.

my method went differently too.
i first did the mustard and fenugreek
in the pan and then ground them before
frying the garlic. i set the garlic
aside once golden and fried the onions
to caramelize them a little, then put
them with the garlic until the rest of
the mix was ready, then i added the
garlic and onions back to the spice
and fruit mix and adjusted salt and
sugar to taste before filling the jars
and canning them.

=====


songbird

On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 14:55:54 -0500, songbird >
wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>> songbird wrote:
>...
>>> if you search the history and my handle you'll
>>>find a recipe for an Indian Garlic pickle that i
>>>like. stuff is great if you like garlic.
>>
>> Garlic pickle, Indian or otherwise, sounds very interesting.
>
> many years ago i was introduced to it by my
>then gf who loved it. a name brand called
>Pataks had it and it was about $4/jar. as we
>could both eat it straight from the jar that
>didn't last very long.
>
> years later, thinking fondly of her (we're still
>friends ), i wanted to see if i could recreate
>that pickle and eventually i did. at least i came
>close enough for my tastes.
>
> i have the file here so i'll just add it:

<snip garlic pickle recipe>

Thanks, I'm keeping your post for future reference.

On 11/29/2018 3:11 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> Probably the oddest thing I do is put potato chips on
> sloppy joes or tuna salad sandwiches. But it's rare that
> I have chips on hand.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

I sometimes put potato chips on my hamburgers. Not if I'm also having
fries, though.

Thanks for mentioning sloppy joes. I've got some cheap white burger
buns in the freezer that are now crying out for sloppy joes.

Jill

On 11/29/2018 3:23 PM, l not -l wrote:
> On 29-Nov-2018, Dave Smith > wrote:
>
>> On 2018-11-29 11:29 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 10:33:12 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 2018-11-29 8:38 AM, songbird wrote:
>>>>> we used to go to an all-you-can-eat fish fry place on
>>>>> Friday nights. one thing i always liked the most wasn't
>>>>> the fish as much as the cole slaw that i would put on
>>>>> the large steak fries they had.
>>>>>
>>>>> are there other combinations of foods that you wouldn't
>>>>> consider normal that you like?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What is not normal about coleslaw with fish and chips. It's a pretty
>>>> standard combination around here.
>>>
>>> Coleslaw ON the chips? That is a little unusual.
>>>
>> It may seem an odd way to eat coleslaw, but it is not an odd combination
>> of foods.

> IMO, no where near as odd as eating coleslaw on a pulled pork sandwich.

I never understood coleslaw *on* a pulled pork sandwich. If I want
coleslaw it should be on the side. I feel the same way about BBQ sauce.
Please don't drench pulled pork in sauce. Let me put as much or as
little as I want on it.

Jill

On 11/29/2018 11:20 PM, wrote:
> On Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 9:43:33 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> Some folks find pulled pork with coleslaw in a sandwich to be disgusting. Beats me why that is. It all seems so harmless to me.
>>
> Raises hand. That would be me. I want them on the same plate but NOT together
> ON the sandwich.
>
Same here, Joan. Coleslaw is (or should be) a side dish. I don't know
who decided it belongs on a pulled pork sandwich.

Jill

On 11/30/2018 11:59 AM, Cheri wrote:
> "Gary" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>> > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> > On Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 9:43:33 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Some folks find pulled pork with coleslaw in a sandwich to be >>
>>> disgusting.
>>> >> Beats me why that is. It all seems so harmless to me.
>>> >>
>>> > Raises hand.* That would be me.* I want them on the same plate but NOT
>>> > together
>>> > ON the sandwich.
>>>
>>> I don't care much for the combination in a sandwich either, but I do
>>> like
>>> both of them.
>>
>> Interesting to me that you both admit they are complementary side
>> by side on a plate but don't care for both on a sandwich. Must
>> just be a regional thing. My mother never cooked this. First time
>> I ever had a bbq sandwich was from a tiny old restaurant near
>> Williamsburg. I just stopped in one night on the way to Virginia
>> Beach.
>>
>> I bought a couple of their bbq sandwiches. In NC and Virginia bbq
>> sauce is the thin vinegar based. And they automatically topped
>> the sandwich with a good coleslaw. OMG!* I immediately became a
>> fan. Those were food heaven to me.* From then on, I always
>> stopped there anytime I drove by.
>>
>> Back then it was a tiny Mom&Pop stand. Word got around and they
>> actually spread and now known here as the best Virginia has to
>> offer. I agree.* Pierces BBQ.* Mom and Pop are long dead but
>> their reputation of the best will probably last forever.
>>
>> Anyway....my forgotten point is cole slaw on the side or on the
>> bun is just what you get used to. A bbq sandwich without cole
>> slaw would be plain, boring, blah to me. I always make my own and
>> that darn bun gets equal amounts of pulled pork with seasoning
>> and equal amount of a great coleslaw. Add a large pile of very
>> salty potato chips (on the side) and you have a meal for the
>> gods@!*
>
>
> I can eat it, just not my favorite combo.
>
> Cheri

Well hey, I prefer ribs over pulled pork. And I prefer dry ribs, not
ribs slathered in sauce.

Jill

On 11/30/2018 12:45 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, November 30, 2018 at 10:51:12 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>> Anyway....my forgotten point is cole slaw on the side or on the
>> bun is just what you get used to. A bbq sandwich without cole
>> slaw would be plain, boring, blah to me. I always make my own and
>> that darn bun gets equal amounts of pulled pork with seasoning
>> and equal amount of a great coleslaw. Add a large pile of very
>> salty potato chips (on the side) and you have a meal for the
>> gods@!
>
> Give me the chips on the sandwich and the cole slaw on the
> side.
>
> Who the heck wants hot cole slaw?
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
Conversely, cooled down pulled pork? LOL

Jill

On 11/30/2018 6:52 PM, wrote:
> It has nothing to do with region, it's a personal preference and I stated
> in a previous comment that slaw on top of barbecue and all I taste is slaw.
> Usually results in a soggy bun as well, blech.

Agreed. Same with overly sauced pulled pork.

> I'm not there for their chopped cabbage and I'm there for
> their barbecue. Sometimes I think when they dump slaw on the meat they're
> trying to hide fact their Q ain't all that good and are trying to disguise
> that fact.
>
I think that's rather likely.

Jill

On 11/30/2018 9:44 PM, wrote:
> On Friday, November 30, 2018 at 7:07:48 PM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
>>
>> Every BBQ sandwich is boring and pulled pork is a disaster, it's over
>> cooked pork that shreds into strings.
>>
> Actually, it's not overcooked unless the pit master or the home barbecue smoker
> hasn't a clue what they are doing. Either that or they can't put down their
> cell phone to do their job. Seasoned and slow smoked pork is a thing of beauty.
>
Sheldon tends to slam anything he considers "southern" cooking.

Jill

On 11/30/2018 3:00 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "dsi1"Â* wrote in message
> ...
>
> People over here eat a bunch of stuff that most Americans wouldn't think
> of putting together nor would they thinking of eating. Ketchup and eggs,
> shoyu and rice, Spam on top of rice, taro leaves with octopus, taro
> leaves with canned corn beef, green banana with stew, pancakes with
> coconut syrup, etc, etc, etc.
>
> https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2018/1...-kids-love-it/
>
>
> ==
>
> Spam on top of rice is a favourite here nowÂ* Thanks for that)
>
>
Most Americans? dsi1 forgets Hawaii is a US State. Ketchup on eggs is
not a Hawaiian thing. Ditto shoyu (soy sauce) on rice. Spam is made in
Minnesota. All of these things are commonly eaten on the mainland.
Taro, not so much but then it isn't grown on the mainland. Not because
we can't, simply because it's not particularly tasty. Most of us don't
eat poi so there is no need to grow taro or harvest the roots or use the
leaves. The Hispanics in my area cook with green bananas and use the
leaves to wrap and steam tamales.

Jill

On 12/1/2018 12:29 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Nov 2018 08:38:45 -0500, songbird wrote:
>
>> we used to go to an all-you-can-eat fish fry place on
>> Friday nights. one thing i always liked the most wasn't
>> the fish as much as the cole slaw that i would put on
>> the large steak fries they had.
>
> Steak fries (as they are usually cooked and served such as at
> ****rudders and Red Robin) suck donkey dicks. So smothering them
> with cole slaw can only be an improvement.
>
>> are there other combinations of foods that you wouldn't
>> consider normal that you like?
>
> Similar to the above example, I love mixing mashed potatoes w/butter
> and sauteed cabbage.
>
> -sw
>
Bubble & Squeak?

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/30/2018 9:44 PM, wrote:
>> On Friday, November 30, 2018 at 7:07:48 PM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
>>>
>>> Every BBQ sandwich is boring and pulled pork is a disaster, it's over
>>> cooked pork that shreds into strings.
>>>
>> Actually, it's not overcooked unless the pit master or the home barbecue
>> smoker
>> hasn't a clue what they are doing. Either that or they can't put down
>> their
>> cell phone to do their job. Seasoned and slow smoked pork is a thing of
>> beauty.
>>
> Sheldon tends to slam anything he considers "southern" cooking.
>
> Jill


Or northern, eastern, and western as well.

Cheri

On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 09:06:24 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>> On 11/30/2018 9:44 PM, wrote:
>>> On Friday, November 30, 2018 at 7:07:48 PM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Every BBQ sandwich is boring and pulled pork is a disaster, it's over
>>>> cooked pork that shreds into strings.
>>>>
>>> Actually, it's not overcooked unless the pit master or the home barbecue
>>> smoker
>>> hasn't a clue what they are doing. Either that or they can't put down
>>> their
>>> cell phone to do their job. Seasoned and slow smoked pork is a thing of
>>> beauty.
>>>
>> Sheldon tends to slam anything he considers "southern" cooking.
>>
>> Jill
>
>
>Or northern, eastern, and western as well.

Yet his own food always looks like nursing home food from the 50s.

On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 6:54:36 AM UTC-10, Jill McQuown wrote:
> On 11/30/2018 3:00 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >
> >
> > "dsi1"Â* wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > People over here eat a bunch of stuff that most Americans wouldn't think
> > of putting together nor would they thinking of eating. Ketchup and eggs,
> > shoyu and rice, Spam on top of rice, taro leaves with octopus, taro
> > leaves with canned corn beef, green banana with stew, pancakes with
> > coconut syrup, etc, etc, etc.
> >
> > https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2018/1...-kids-love-it/
> >
> >
> > ==
> >
> > Spam on top of rice is a favourite here nowÂ* Thanks for that)
> >
> >
> Most Americans? dsi1 forgets Hawaii is a US State. Ketchup on eggs is
> not a Hawaiian thing. Ditto shoyu (soy sauce) on rice. Spam is made in
> Minnesota. All of these things are commonly eaten on the mainland.
> Taro, not so much but then it isn't grown on the mainland. Not because
> we can't, simply because it's not particularly tasty. Most of us don't
> eat poi so there is no need to grow taro or harvest the roots or use the
> leaves. The Hispanics in my area cook with green bananas and use the
> leaves to wrap and steam tamales.
>
> Jill

Most Americans eat rice and pour shoyu on it? Coleslaw and pulled pork together in a sandwich is not a thing in the US? This sounds like commie spetz propaganda if you ask me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tis_FWtqS38

Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 09:06:24 -0800, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 11/30/2018 9:44 PM, wrote:
>>>> On Friday, November 30, 2018 at 7:07:48 PM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Every BBQ sandwich is boring and pulled pork is a disaster, it's over
>>>>> cooked pork that shreds into strings.
>>>>>
>>>> Actually, it's not overcooked unless the pit master or the home barbecue
>>>> smoker
>>>> hasn't a clue what they are doing. Either that or they can't put down
>>>> their
>>>> cell phone to do their job. Seasoned and slow smoked pork is a thing of
>>>> beauty.
>>>>
>>> Sheldon tends to slam anything he considers "southern" cooking.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>>
>> Or northern, eastern, and western as well.
>
> Yet his own food always looks like nursing home food from the 50s.
>

Surely yoose jest. Those are his toilet bowl shots.

On 2018-12-05 10:14 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 11/29/2018 11:20 PM, wrote:

>> Raises hand.Â* That would be me.Â* I want them on the same plate but NOT
>> together
>> ON the sandwich.
>>
> Same here, Joan.Â* Coleslaw is (or should be) a side dish.Â* I don't know
> who decided it belongs on a pulled pork sandwich.


I don't know either, but after trying it, I think it is a good idea.

jmcquown wrote:

> On 11/30/2018 3:00 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >
> >
> > "dsi1"Â* wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > People over here eat a bunch of stuff that most Americans wouldn't
> > think of putting together nor would they thinking of eating.
> > Ketchup and eggs, shoyu and rice, Spam on top of rice, taro leaves
> > with octopus, taro leaves with canned corn beef, green banana with
> > stew, pancakes with coconut syrup, etc, etc, etc.
> >
> > https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2018/1...i-public-schoo
> > l-kalo-kids-love-it/ ==
> >
> > Spam on top of rice is a favourite here nowÂ* Thanks for that)
> >
> >
> Most Americans? dsi1 forgets Hawaii is a US State. Ketchup on eggs
> is not a Hawaiian thing. Ditto shoyu (soy sauce) on rice. Spam is
> made in Minnesota. All of these things are commonly eaten on the
> mainland. Taro, not so much but then it isn't grown on the mainland.
> Not because we can't, simply because it's not particularly tasty.
> Most of us don't eat poi so there is no need to grow taro or harvest
> the roots or use the leaves. The Hispanics in my area cook with
> green bananas and use the leaves to wrap and steam tamales.
>
> Jill

Actually we do grow Taro types here if there is a local market. VB
grows a few types as I've gotten 'local grown' here. It's not a major
market but I see 'small taro, local grown' in several places. Small
Taro to me is eddo (japanese name).

dsi1 wrote:

> On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 6:54:36 AM UTC-10, Jill McQuown
> wrote:
> > On 11/30/2018 3:00 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > "dsi1"Â* wrote in message
> > > ...
> > >
> > > People over here eat a bunch of stuff that most Americans
> > > wouldn't think of putting together nor would they thinking of
> > > eating. Ketchup and eggs, shoyu and rice, Spam on top of rice,
> > > taro leaves with octopus, taro leaves with canned corn beef,
> > > green banana with stew, pancakes with coconut syrup, etc, etc,
> > > etc.
> > >
> > > https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2018/1...uai-public-sch
> > > ool-kalo-kids-love-it/
> > >
> > >
> > > ==
> > >
> > > Spam on top of rice is a favourite here nowÂ* Thanks for that)
> > >
> > >
> > Most Americans? dsi1 forgets Hawaii is a US State. Ketchup on
> > eggs is not a Hawaiian thing. Ditto shoyu (soy sauce) on rice.
> > Spam is made in Minnesota. All of these things are commonly eaten
> > on the mainland. Taro, not so much but then it isn't grown on the
> > mainland. Not because we can't, simply because it's not
> > particularly tasty. Most of us don't eat poi so there is no need
> > to grow taro or harvest the roots or use the leaves. The Hispanics
> > in my area cook with green bananas and use the leaves to wrap and
> > steam tamales.
> >
> > Jill
>
> Most Americans eat rice and pour shoyu on it? Coleslaw and pulled
> pork together in a sandwich is not a thing in the US? This sounds
> like commie spetz propaganda if you ask me.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tis_FWtqS38

You have to add 'most' there? No, but there are plenty in Hawaii who
eat rice plain or with another sauce.

Coleslaw on the side of a pulled pork sandwich is more average here.

We also do indeed grow some taro, though not the volume you have there.

On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 11:45:38 AM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 6:54:36 AM UTC-10, Jill McQuown
> > wrote:
> > > On 11/30/2018 3:00 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "dsi1"Â* wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > >
> > > > People over here eat a bunch of stuff that most Americans
> > > > wouldn't think of putting together nor would they thinking of
> > > > eating. Ketchup and eggs, shoyu and rice, Spam on top of rice,
> > > > taro leaves with octopus, taro leaves with canned corn beef,
> > > > green banana with stew, pancakes with coconut syrup, etc, etc,
> > > > etc.
> > > >
> > > > https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2018/1...uai-public-sch
> > > > ool-kalo-kids-love-it/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ==
> > > >
> > > > Spam on top of rice is a favourite here nowÂ* Thanks for that)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Most Americans? dsi1 forgets Hawaii is a US State. Ketchup on
> > > eggs is not a Hawaiian thing. Ditto shoyu (soy sauce) on rice.
> > > Spam is made in Minnesota. All of these things are commonly eaten
> > > on the mainland. Taro, not so much but then it isn't grown on the
> > > mainland. Not because we can't, simply because it's not
> > > particularly tasty. Most of us don't eat poi so there is no need
> > > to grow taro or harvest the roots or use the leaves. The Hispanics
> > > in my area cook with green bananas and use the leaves to wrap and
> > > steam tamales.
> > >
> > > Jill
> >
> > Most Americans eat rice and pour shoyu on it? Coleslaw and pulled
> > pork together in a sandwich is not a thing in the US? This sounds
> > like commie spetz propaganda if you ask me.
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tis_FWtqS38
>
> You have to add 'most' there? No, but there are plenty in Hawaii who
> eat rice plain or with another sauce.
>
> Coleslaw on the side of a pulled pork sandwich is more average here.
>
> We also do indeed grow some taro, though not the volume you have there.

I'm talking about the idea that shoyu and rice being common on the mainland.. I doubt that's true. Of course it's popular in Hawaii. You did live here for 3 years, remember?

I am also expressing doubt that pulled pork with coleslaw in a sandwich is not served much on the mainland. The fact that people on this newsgroup hate that combo so much makes me believe that it's served far too often. As far as that goes, serving the sandwich on a plate with the coleslaw on the side is probably the smart and most considerate thing to do.

dsi1 wrote:

> On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 11:45:38 AM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> > dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > > On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 6:54:36 AM UTC-10, Jill McQuown
> > > wrote:
> > > > On 11/30/2018 3:00 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "dsi1"Â* wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > >
> > > > > People over here eat a bunch of stuff that most Americans
> > > > > wouldn't think of putting together nor would they thinking of
> > > > > eating. Ketchup and eggs, shoyu and rice, Spam on top of rice,
> > > > > taro leaves with octopus, taro leaves with canned corn beef,
> > > > > green banana with stew, pancakes with coconut syrup, etc, etc,
> > > > > etc.
> > > > >
> > > > >
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2018/1...uai-public-sch
> > > > > ool-kalo-kids-love-it/
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ==
> > > > >
> > > > > Spam on top of rice is a favourite here nowÂ* Thanks for
> > > > > that)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > Most Americans? dsi1 forgets Hawaii is a US State. Ketchup on
> > > > eggs is not a Hawaiian thing. Ditto shoyu (soy sauce) on rice.
> > > > Spam is made in Minnesota. All of these things are commonly
> > > > eaten on the mainland. Taro, not so much but then it isn't
> > > > grown on the mainland. Not because we can't, simply because
> > > > it's not particularly tasty. Most of us don't eat poi so there
> > > > is no need to grow taro or harvest the roots or use the leaves.
> > > > The Hispanics in my area cook with green bananas and use the
> > > > leaves to wrap and steam tamales.
> > > >
> > > > Jill
> > >
> > > Most Americans eat rice and pour shoyu on it? Coleslaw and pulled
> > > pork together in a sandwich is not a thing in the US? This sounds
> > > like commie spetz propaganda if you ask me.
> > >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tis_FWtqS38
> >
> > You have to add 'most' there? No, but there are plenty in Hawaii
> > who eat rice plain or with another sauce.
> >
> > Coleslaw on the side of a pulled pork sandwich is more average here.
> >
> > We also do indeed grow some taro, though not the volume you have
> > there.
>
> I'm talking about the idea that shoyu and rice being common on the
> mainland. I doubt that's true. Of course it's popular in Hawaii. You
> did live here for 3 years, remember?

Shoyu with rice is very common depending on the area and eatery.


> I am also expressing doubt that pulled pork with coleslaw in a
> sandwich is not served much on the mainland. The fact that people on
> this newsgroup hate that combo so much makes me believe that it's
> served far too often. As far as that goes, serving the sandwich on a
> plate with the coleslaw on the side is probably the smart and most
> considerate thing to do.

It's coleslaw on the side here as a common thing for pulled pork.

On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 9:14:52 AM UTC-6, Jill McQuown wrote:
>
> On 11/29/2018 11:20 PM, wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 9:43:33 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
> >>
> >> Some folks find pulled pork with coleslaw in a sandwich to be disgusting. Beats me why that is. It all seems so harmless to me.
> >>
> > Raises hand. That would be me. I want them on the same plate but NOT together
> > ON the sandwich.
> >
> Same here, Joan. Coleslaw is (or should be) a side dish. I don't know
> who decided it belongs on a pulled pork sandwich.
>
> Jill
>
It makes me wonder if their pulled pork is not as good as it could be and
they are trying to cover up the fact with a glob of coleslaw?

On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 5:43:31 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 11:45:38 AM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> > dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > > On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 6:54:36 AM UTC-10, Jill McQuown
> > > wrote:
> > > > On 11/30/2018 3:00 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "dsi1"Â* wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > >
> > > > > People over here eat a bunch of stuff that most Americans
> > > > > wouldn't think of putting together nor would they thinking of
> > > > > eating. Ketchup and eggs, shoyu and rice, Spam on top of rice,
> > > > > taro leaves with octopus, taro leaves with canned corn beef,
> > > > > green banana with stew, pancakes with coconut syrup, etc, etc,
> > > > > etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2018/1...uai-public-sch
> > > > > ool-kalo-kids-love-it/
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ==
> > > > >
> > > > > Spam on top of rice is a favourite here nowÂ* Thanks for that)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > Most Americans? dsi1 forgets Hawaii is a US State. Ketchup on
> > > > eggs is not a Hawaiian thing. Ditto shoyu (soy sauce) on rice.
> > > > Spam is made in Minnesota. All of these things are commonly eaten
> > > > on the mainland. Taro, not so much but then it isn't grown on the
> > > > mainland. Not because we can't, simply because it's not
> > > > particularly tasty. Most of us don't eat poi so there is no need
> > > > to grow taro or harvest the roots or use the leaves. The Hispanics
> > > > in my area cook with green bananas and use the leaves to wrap and
> > > > steam tamales.
> > > >
> > > > Jill
> > >
> > > Most Americans eat rice and pour shoyu on it? Coleslaw and pulled
> > > pork together in a sandwich is not a thing in the US? This sounds
> > > like commie spetz propaganda if you ask me.
> > >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tis_FWtqS38
> >
> > You have to add 'most' there? No, but there are plenty in Hawaii who
> > eat rice plain or with another sauce.
> >
> > Coleslaw on the side of a pulled pork sandwich is more average here.
> >
> > We also do indeed grow some taro, though not the volume you have there.
>
> I'm talking about the idea that shoyu and rice being common on the mainland. I doubt that's true. Of course it's popular in Hawaii. You did live here for 3 years, remember?
>
> I am also expressing doubt that pulled pork with coleslaw in a sandwich is not served much on the mainland. The fact that people on this newsgroup hate that combo so much makes me believe that it's served far too often. As far as that goes, serving the sandwich on a plate with the coleslaw on the side is probably the smart and most considerate thing to do.

Don't discount the fact that the mainland is huge, and there are regional
cuisines. Cole slaw on the sandwich originated in the Southeast, and
it has only spread in the last decade or so. And it is far from universal.

Why do you think we comment on it here? Because it's unusual.

Cindy Hamilton

On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 9:03:30 PM UTC-5, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Wed 05 Dec 2018 06:42:13a, jmcquown told us...
>
> > On 11/29/2018 3:11 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> Probably the oddest thing I do is put potato chips on
> >> sloppy joes or tuna salad sandwiches. But it's rare that
> >> I have chips on hand.
> >>
> >> Cindy Hamilton
> >
> > I sometimes put potato chips on my hamburgers. Not if I'm also
> > having fries, though.
> >
> > Thanks for mentioning sloppy joes. I've got some cheap white
> > burger buns in the freezer that are now crying out for sloppy
> > joes.
> >
> > Jill
> >
> >
>
> I love sloppy joes and I have plent of potato chips on the side! But
> back to the coleslaw on fries thing, I don't like putting anything
> wet on something that's supposed to be crispy. Similarly, I can't
> stand hving a plate of tortilla chips almost swimming in melted nacho
> cheese.

I'm with you on the nachos. That's why I prefer a light sprinkling
of grated cheese over slopping them up with melted Cheez Whiz.

Cindy Hamilton

On 12/5/2018 9:03 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Wed 05 Dec 2018 06:42:13a, jmcquown told us...
>
>> On 11/29/2018 3:11 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> Probably the oddest thing I do is put potato chips on
>>> sloppy joes or tuna salad sandwiches. But it's rare that
>>> I have chips on hand.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> I sometimes put potato chips on my hamburgers. Not if I'm also
>> having fries, though.
>>
>> Thanks for mentioning sloppy joes. I've got some cheap white
>> burger buns in the freezer that are now crying out for sloppy
>> joes.
>>
>> Jill
>>
>>
>
> I love sloppy joes and I have plent of potato chips on the side!

I'll have to buy some potato chips.

> back to the coleslaw on fries thing, I don't like putting anything
> wet on something that's supposed to be crispy. Similarly, I can't
> stand hving a plate of tortilla chips almost swimming in melted nacho
> cheese.
>
Yep, I'd rather dip the tortilla chips in cheese sauce than have them
smothered in melted cheese.

Jill

On 12/6/2018 6:17 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 9:03:30 PM UTC-5, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>
>> I love sloppy joes and I have plent of potato chips on the side! But
>> back to the coleslaw on fries thing, I don't like putting anything
>> wet on something that's supposed to be crispy. Similarly, I can't
>> stand hving a plate of tortilla chips almost swimming in melted nacho
>> cheese.
>
> I'm with you on the nachos. That's why I prefer a light sprinkling
> of grated cheese over slopping them up with melted Cheez Whiz.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
Many so-called Mexican restaurants bring a basket of chips and salsa to
the table, gratis. I much prefer a cheese dip. Dip being the operative
word. There was a "Mexican" restaurant in Memphis that served a
slightly spicy white cheese dip with spinach that was absolutely
delicious. I've never been able to replicate it. I'm not sure if they
used oaxaca, queso blanco or queso fresco cheese. You had to pay extra
for it but it was really good.

Jill

On Thursday, December 6, 2018 at 1:14:46 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 5:43:31 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 11:45:38 AM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> > > dsi1 wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 6:54:36 AM UTC-10, Jill McQuown
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > On 11/30/2018 3:00 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "dsi1"Â* wrote in message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > People over here eat a bunch of stuff that most Americans
> > > > > > wouldn't think of putting together nor would they thinking of
> > > > > > eating. Ketchup and eggs, shoyu and rice, Spam on top of rice,
> > > > > > taro leaves with octopus, taro leaves with canned corn beef,
> > > > > > green banana with stew, pancakes with coconut syrup, etc, etc,
> > > > > > etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2018/1...uai-public-sch
> > > > > > ool-kalo-kids-love-it/
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ==
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Spam on top of rice is a favourite here nowÂ* Thanks for that)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > Most Americans? dsi1 forgets Hawaii is a US State. Ketchup on
> > > > > eggs is not a Hawaiian thing. Ditto shoyu (soy sauce) on rice.
> > > > > Spam is made in Minnesota. All of these things are commonly eaten
> > > > > on the mainland. Taro, not so much but then it isn't grown on the
> > > > > mainland. Not because we can't, simply because it's not
> > > > > particularly tasty. Most of us don't eat poi so there is no need
> > > > > to grow taro or harvest the roots or use the leaves. The Hispanics
> > > > > in my area cook with green bananas and use the leaves to wrap and
> > > > > steam tamales.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jill
> > > >
> > > > Most Americans eat rice and pour shoyu on it? Coleslaw and pulled
> > > > pork together in a sandwich is not a thing in the US? This sounds
> > > > like commie spetz propaganda if you ask me.
> > > >
> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tis_FWtqS38
> > >
> > > You have to add 'most' there? No, but there are plenty in Hawaii who
> > > eat rice plain or with another sauce.
> > >
> > > Coleslaw on the side of a pulled pork sandwich is more average here.
> > >
> > > We also do indeed grow some taro, though not the volume you have there.
> >
> > I'm talking about the idea that shoyu and rice being common on the mainland. I doubt that's true. Of course it's popular in Hawaii. You did live here for 3 years, remember?
> >
> > I am also expressing doubt that pulled pork with coleslaw in a sandwich is not served much on the mainland. The fact that people on this newsgroup hate that combo so much makes me believe that it's served far too often. As far as that goes, serving the sandwich on a plate with the coleslaw on the side is probably the smart and most considerate thing to do.
>
> Don't discount the fact that the mainland is huge, and there are regional
> cuisines. Cole slaw on the sandwich originated in the Southeast, and
> it has only spread in the last decade or so. And it is far from universal.
>
> Why do you think we comment on it here? Because it's unusual.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

I never said that pulled pork with coleslaw was universal. I an well aware of regional cuisines. I live in Hawaii, remember?