Working out how to share a photo. Nothing fancy here, just my backyard
and some of the wood pile

https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM

On 11/26/2018 8:59 AM, cshenk wrote:
> Working out how to share a photo. Nothing fancy here, just my backyard
> and some of the wood pile
>
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM

Â* I'm guessing y'all heat with wood ... how many cords per year do you
burn ?

--
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Yes , I'm old
and crochety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !

Terry Coombs wrote:

> On 11/26/2018 8:59 AM, cshenk wrote:
> > Working out how to share a photo. Nothing fancy here, just my
> > backyard and some of the wood pile
> >
> >
https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM
>
> Â* I'm guessing y'all heat with wood ... how many cords per year do
> you burn ?

We augment the HVAC with a fireplace and that picture shows about 2
cords (maybe 2.5) of wood. We burn from 1/2-1 cord a year (depends on
the cold that year). Last year due to Don's hernia issues, we used
less but the temps here are quite variable so that happens.

Once the highs hit mid-40's we start the fireplace off. Give it 2 more
weeks or so here? Then we kick it off in the morning by 9am and bank
it by 9pm. The HVAC under those conditions kicks in randomly at 35F
outside but only regular at 20F. Runs about 150$ a month savings at
least, *after* paying for the wood.

In my area we have 'heat pumps' so they lack efficiency of the true
cold weather systems. Noted is you need a home layout that takes proper
use of a fireplace. Open to heat much of the house.
Carol

On 11/26/2018 11:04 AM, cshenk wrote:
> Terry Coombs wrote:
>
>> On 11/26/2018 8:59 AM, cshenk wrote:
>>> Working out how to share a photo. Nothing fancy here, just my
>>> backyard and some of the wood pile
>>>
>>>
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM
>> Â* I'm guessing y'all heat with wood ... how many cords per year do
>> you burn ?
> We augment the HVAC with a fireplace and that picture shows about 2
> cords (maybe 2.5) of wood. We burn from 1/2-1 cord a year (depends on
> the cold that year). Last year due to Don's hernia issues, we used
> less but the temps here are quite variable so that happens.
>
> Once the highs hit mid-40's we start the fireplace off. Give it 2 more
> weeks or so here? Then we kick it off in the morning by 9am and bank
> it by 9pm. The HVAC under those conditions kicks in randomly at 35F
> outside but only regular at 20F. Runs about 150$ a month savings at
> least, *after* paying for the wood.
>
> In my area we have 'heat pumps' so they lack efficiency of the true
> cold weather systems. Noted is you need a home layout that takes proper
> use of a fireplace. Open to heat much of the house.
> Carol

Â* Wood burning stove and window units for summer ... We have a radiant
LP gas wall mounted heater for when we're gone for a day or two , but
wood is the main heat source . And it only costs me the gas and labor to
process the firewood ... well , and the aches and pains when I'm done .
Works well for us , the living/dining rooms are basically one big room
40 feet long . Bedroom has an opening in the wall above the stove in the
living room (originally for an A/C unit) that I mount a fan in for
winter . Leave the door open and it keeps the whole house pretty much
evenly heated .

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !

On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 7:04:23 AM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> Terry Coombs wrote:
>
> > On 11/26/2018 8:59 AM, cshenk wrote:
> > > Working out how to share a photo. Nothing fancy here, just my
> > > backyard and some of the wood pile
> > >
> > >
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM
> >
> > Â* I'm guessing y'all heat with wood ... how many cords per year do
> > you burn ?
>
> We augment the HVAC with a fireplace and that picture shows about 2
> cords (maybe 2.5) of wood. We burn from 1/2-1 cord a year (depends on
> the cold that year). Last year due to Don's hernia issues, we used
> less but the temps here are quite variable so that happens.
>
> Once the highs hit mid-40's we start the fireplace off. Give it 2 more
> weeks or so here? Then we kick it off in the morning by 9am and bank
> it by 9pm. The HVAC under those conditions kicks in randomly at 35F
> outside but only regular at 20F. Runs about 150$ a month savings at
> least, *after* paying for the wood.
>
> In my area we have 'heat pumps' so they lack efficiency of the true
> cold weather systems. Noted is you need a home layout that takes proper
> use of a fireplace. Open to heat much of the house.
> Carol

The first time I saw a wood burning stove in use was at my brother-in-law's place in Washington State. It was interesting to see a stove that wasn't used to cook food. That was a new concept. I even got a chance to wear long johns and chop wood. Whoa Nellie! As an added bonus, I love fire and would watch the fire through the glass for extended periods. My in-laws must have thought I was retarded. Perhaps I am. Ynuck, ynuck.

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 7:04:23 AM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> Terry Coombs wrote:
>
> > On 11/26/2018 8:59 AM, cshenk wrote:
> > > Working out how to share a photo. Nothing fancy here, just my
> > > backyard and some of the wood pile
> > >
> > >
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM
> >
> > I'm guessing y'all heat with wood ... how many cords per year do
> > you burn ?
>
> We augment the HVAC with a fireplace and that picture shows about 2
> cords (maybe 2.5) of wood. We burn from 1/2-1 cord a year (depends on
> the cold that year). Last year due to Don's hernia issues, we used
> less but the temps here are quite variable so that happens.
>
> Once the highs hit mid-40's we start the fireplace off. Give it 2 more
> weeks or so here? Then we kick it off in the morning by 9am and bank
> it by 9pm. The HVAC under those conditions kicks in randomly at 35F
> outside but only regular at 20F. Runs about 150$ a month savings at
> least, *after* paying for the wood.
>
> In my area we have 'heat pumps' so they lack efficiency of the true
> cold weather systems. Noted is you need a home layout that takes proper
> use of a fireplace. Open to heat much of the house.
> Carol

The first time I saw a wood burning stove in use was at my brother-in-law's
place in Washington State. It was interesting to see a stove that wasn't
used to cook food. That was a new concept. I even got a chance to wear long
johns and chop wood. Whoa Nellie! As an added bonus, I love fire and would
watch the fire through the glass for extended periods. My in-laws must have
thought I was retarded. Perhaps I am. Ynuck, ynuck.

==

I grew up in an old cottage with a big fireplace like this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?annota...&v=L0x6sxgRbO0

Our bread was baked in that oven When my parents were working, I used to
come home from school to light that fire

On Wednesday, November 28, 2018 at 9:10:45 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 7:04:23 AM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> > Terry Coombs wrote:
> >
> > > On 11/26/2018 8:59 AM, cshenk wrote:
> > > > Working out how to share a photo. Nothing fancy here, just my
> > > > backyard and some of the wood pile
> > > >
> > > >
> > https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM
> > >
> > > I'm guessing y'all heat with wood ... how many cords per year do
> > > you burn ?
> >
> > We augment the HVAC with a fireplace and that picture shows about 2
> > cords (maybe 2.5) of wood. We burn from 1/2-1 cord a year (depends on
> > the cold that year). Last year due to Don's hernia issues, we used
> > less but the temps here are quite variable so that happens.
> >
> > Once the highs hit mid-40's we start the fireplace off. Give it 2 more
> > weeks or so here? Then we kick it off in the morning by 9am and bank
> > it by 9pm. The HVAC under those conditions kicks in randomly at 35F
> > outside but only regular at 20F. Runs about 150$ a month savings at
> > least, *after* paying for the wood.
> >
> > In my area we have 'heat pumps' so they lack efficiency of the true
> > cold weather systems. Noted is you need a home layout that takes proper
> > use of a fireplace. Open to heat much of the house.
> > Carol
>
> The first time I saw a wood burning stove in use was at my brother-in-law's
> place in Washington State. It was interesting to see a stove that wasn't
> used to cook food. That was a new concept. I even got a chance to wear long
> johns and chop wood. Whoa Nellie! As an added bonus, I love fire and would
> watch the fire through the glass for extended periods. My in-laws must have
> thought I was retarded. Perhaps I am. Ynuck, ynuck.
>
> ==
>
> I grew up in an old cottage with a big fireplace like this one:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?annota...&v=L0x6sxgRbO0
>
> Our bread was baked in that oven When my parents were working, I used to
> come home from school to light that fire

That's some amazing old timey technology. It was a fascinating video. Thanks! I can't say how something like that would work on this rock. It might work in some places in Hawaii but as a general rule, we have no provisions for heating homes.

My parent's home had an all gas kitchen. In the 60's this was touted as the latest in modern kitchen technology. You save a lot of money by using a gas stove in Hawaii but what I remember most about the kitchen while growing up was that it was a hot, uncomfortable, place.

I was at my dad's place during Thanksgiving and had to use their gas range. This was a modern gas range with beefy burners but it just infuriated me. I turned on the flame and then waited and waited for the pan to get hot. It seemed like a really long time. What I'd like is a burner that can heat up a pan in 3 seconds or less. Hee hee.

On 11/29/2018 2:10 AM, Ophelia wrote:

> I grew up in an old cottage with a big fireplace like this one:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?annota...&v=L0x6sxgRbO0
>
>
> Our bread wasÂ* baked in that ovenÂ* When my parents were working, I
> used to come home from school to light that fire
>
I remember my Granny cooking on one just like that!
When my Great-grandfather rebuilt the old house for his second wife,
that's what he installed in the kitchen.
My Grandfather later replaced it with a Rayburn, which was removed when
my uncle inherited. He installed electric heaters, and converted the old
scullery to a modern galley kitchen.

dsi1 wrote:

> On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 7:04:23 AM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> > Terry Coombs wrote:
> >
> > > On 11/26/2018 8:59 AM, cshenk wrote:
> > > > Working out how to share a photo. Nothing fancy here, just my
> > > > backyard and some of the wood pile
> > > >
> > > >
> >
https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM
> > >
> > > Â* I'm guessing y'all heat with wood ... how many cords per year do
> > > you burn ?
> >
> > We augment the HVAC with a fireplace and that picture shows about 2
> > cords (maybe 2.5) of wood. We burn from 1/2-1 cord a year (depends
> > on the cold that year). Last year due to Don's hernia issues, we
> > used less but the temps here are quite variable so that happens.
> >
> > Once the highs hit mid-40's we start the fireplace off. Give it 2
> > more weeks or so here? Then we kick it off in the morning by 9am
> > and bank it by 9pm. The HVAC under those conditions kicks in
> > randomly at 35F outside but only regular at 20F. Runs about 150$ a
> > month savings at least, after paying for the wood.
> >
> > In my area we have 'heat pumps' so they lack efficiency of the true
> > cold weather systems. Noted is you need a home layout that takes
> > proper use of a fireplace. Open to heat much of the house.
> > Carol
>
> The first time I saw a wood burning stove in use was at my
> brother-in-law's place in Washington State. It was interesting to see
> a stove that wasn't used to cook food. That was a new concept. I even
> got a chance to wear long johns and chop wood. Whoa Nellie! As an
> added bonus, I love fire and would watch the fire through the glass
> for extended periods. My in-laws must have thought I was retarded.
> Perhaps I am. Ynuck, ynuck.

Grin, my other post is all on fireplaces. Wood stoves are neat too
though. If I didnt need 3-4ft clearance (I think it's a code spec
issue but you do need quite a bit for basic safety anyways), I'd be
looking into putting one in my converted garage (where I can make space
if I want to) and my back sunroom (which is too small to make that much
space).

On 11/26/2018 9:59 AM, cshenk wrote:
> Working out how to share a photo. Nothing fancy here, just my backyard
> and some of the wood pile
>
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM
>

Good sized wood pile. I always liked heating with wood but I found as I
got older it was easier to write a check for oil than bring in a few
cords of wood. I have a Vermont Castings stove that can be burned open
or closed. We'd sometimes cook on top of it but other times I'd let the
wood go down enough to open the doors and grill a steak over the coals.

On 11/26/2018 11:09 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 11/26/2018 9:59 AM, cshenk wrote:
>> Working out how to share a photo.Â* Nothing fancy here, just my backyard
>> and some of the wood pile
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM
>>
>>
>
> Good sized wood pile.Â* I always liked heating with wood but I found as I
> got older it was easier to write a check for oil than bring in a few
> cords of wood.Â* I have a Vermont Castings stove that can be burned open
> or closed.Â* We'd sometimes cook on top of it but other times I'd let the
> wood go down enough to open the doors and grill a steak over the coals.

You won't have to worry much about wood for heat once you get to
Florida. It's nice to have a wood burning fireplace, though. For
ambiance. I miss having a wood burning fireplace.

Jill

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> On 11/26/2018 9:59 AM, cshenk wrote:
> > Working out how to share a photo. Nothing fancy here, just my
> > backyard and some of the wood pile
> >
> >
https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM
> >
>
> Good sized wood pile. I always liked heating with wood but I found
> as I got older it was easier to write a check for oil than bring in a
> few cords of wood. I have a Vermont Castings stove that can be
> burned open or closed. We'd sometimes cook on top of it but other
> times I'd let the wood go down enough to open the doors and grill a
> steak over the coals.

I'd love a good old Ben Franklin here! It could go in the back room
but needs a fair clearance and the room isnt that big.

If we ever enclose the back porch fully though, that would be the
trick. It's 13ft x 44 ft.

I get you on bringing in the wood, both to the yard and stacking and
then a daily task to bring it inside.

On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 11:16:29 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:

>Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> On 11/26/2018 9:59 AM, cshenk wrote:
>> > Working out how to share a photo. Nothing fancy here, just my
>> > backyard and some of the wood pile
>> >
>> >
>https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM
>> >
>>
>> Good sized wood pile. I always liked heating with wood but I found
>> as I got older it was easier to write a check for oil than bring in a
>> few cords of wood. I have a Vermont Castings stove that can be
>> burned open or closed. We'd sometimes cook on top of it but other
>> times I'd let the wood go down enough to open the doors and grill a
>> steak over the coals.
>
>I'd love a good old Ben Franklin here! It could go in the back room
>but needs a fair clearance and the room isnt that big.
>
>If we ever enclose the back porch fully though, that would be the
>trick. It's 13ft x 44 ft.
>
>I get you on bringing in the wood, both to the yard and stacking and
>then a daily task to bring it inside.

Carrying and stacking are the easiest parts.
You forgot cutting and splitting... and then the ashes.

On 11/26/2018 12:49 PM, wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 11:16:29 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/26/2018 9:59 AM, cshenk wrote:
>>>> Working out how to share a photo. Nothing fancy here, just my
>>>> backyard and some of the wood pile
>>>>
>>>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM
>>> Good sized wood pile. I always liked heating with wood but I found
>>> as I got older it was easier to write a check for oil than bring in a
>>> few cords of wood. I have a Vermont Castings stove that can be
>>> burned open or closed. We'd sometimes cook on top of it but other
>>> times I'd let the wood go down enough to open the doors and grill a
>>> steak over the coals.
>> I'd love a good old Ben Franklin here! It could go in the back room
>> but needs a fair clearance and the room isnt that big.
>>
>> If we ever enclose the back porch fully though, that would be the
>> trick. It's 13ft x 44 ft.
>>
>> I get you on bringing in the wood, both to the yard and stacking and
>> then a daily task to bring it inside.
> Carrying and stacking are the easiest parts.
> You forgot cutting and splitting... and then the ashes.
Â* Chainsaws are wonderful tools ... I have 3 that run and 3 more for
parts . Only one gas powered log splitter though , but it's a pretty
good one . The hardest part for me is getting it out of the woods , our
land is not level and it's heavily wooded . That's where Rusty the
Tractorand his little trailercome in handy . The ashes go into my
compost heap for the garden .

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !

On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 13:04:57 -0600, Terry Coombs >
wrote:

>On 11/26/2018 12:49 PM, wrote:
>> On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 11:16:29 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
>>
>>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/26/2018 9:59 AM, cshenk wrote:
>>>>> Working out how to share a photo. Nothing fancy here, just my
>>>>> backyard and some of the wood pile
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM
>>>> Good sized wood pile. I always liked heating with wood but I found
>>>> as I got older it was easier to write a check for oil than bring in a
>>>> few cords of wood. I have a Vermont Castings stove that can be
>>>> burned open or closed. We'd sometimes cook on top of it but other
>>>> times I'd let the wood go down enough to open the doors and grill a
>>>> steak over the coals.
>>> I'd love a good old Ben Franklin here! It could go in the back room
>>> but needs a fair clearance and the room isnt that big.
>>>
>>> If we ever enclose the back porch fully though, that would be the
>>> trick. It's 13ft x 44 ft.
>>>
>>> I get you on bringing in the wood, both to the yard and stacking and
>>> then a daily task to bring it inside.
>> Carrying and stacking are the easiest parts.
>> You forgot cutting and splitting... and then the ashes.
> * Chainsaws are wonderful tools ... I have 3 that run and 3 more for
>parts . Only one gas powered log splitter though , but it's a pretty
>good one . The hardest part for me is getting it out of the woods , our
>land is not level and it's heavily wooded . That's where Rusty the
>Tractorand his little trailercome in handy . The ashes go into my
>compost heap for the garden .

Yes, cutting them down and dragging the logs out of the woods is the
most laborious part. I don't bother heating with wood anymore, I've
found that propane works better, a lot less laborious, and in the end
actually costs less... because maintaining chain saws and log
splitters can get expensive, plus the fuel and oil. My time and
energy is best used for other things. I stopped being obsessed with
collecting fire wood some 15 years ago. And burning wood one may as
well smoke tobacco, wood smoke is just as harmful to ones respirtory
system, maybe worse. I have a water jacketed wood stove in the
basement that heated the house and made hot water but I don't use
it... propane is far more efficient, and in the end all things
considered costs less.

On 2018-11-26 12:16 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>
>> Good sized wood pile. I always liked heating with wood but I found
>> as I got older it was easier to write a check for oil than bring in a
>> few cords of wood. I have a Vermont Castings stove that can be
>> burned open or closed. We'd sometimes cook on top of it but other
>> times I'd let the wood go down enough to open the doors and grill a
>> steak over the coals.
>
> I'd love a good old Ben Franklin here! It could go in the back room
> but needs a fair clearance and the room isnt that big.
>
> If we ever enclose the back porch fully though, that would be the
> trick. It's 13ft x 44 ft.
>
> I get you on bringing in the wood, both to the yard and stacking and
> then a daily task to bring it inside.

Our former neighbours moved a couple hundred miles north of here and
have about 140 acres of woodlot. Most of what they cleared for the house
was softwood. Their house heating system involves an outdoor wood
burning boiler. When we visited them a couple years ago I wondered
about the quality of the wood and the work involved in feeding that boiler.

Last Christmas Eve the wife down visiting friends and dropped by to say
hello. When I asked her where Roy was she said he was home feeding the
furnace....stupidest thing he ever did.

Here is a video review of a similar system and a guy who is as thrilled
with his heating system as the old neighbours are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0I1Mjvr_4E

Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2018-11-26 12:16 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Good sized wood pile. I always liked heating with wood but I
> > > found as I got older it was easier to write a check for oil than
> > > bring in a few cords of wood. I have a Vermont Castings stove
> > > that can be burned open or closed. We'd sometimes cook on top of
> > > it but other times I'd let the wood go down enough to open the
> > > doors and grill a steak over the coals.
> >
> > I'd love a good old Ben Franklin here! It could go in the back room
> > but needs a fair clearance and the room isnt that big.
> >
> > If we ever enclose the back porch fully though, that would be the
> > trick. It's 13ft x 44 ft.
> >
> > I get you on bringing in the wood, both to the yard and stacking and
> > then a daily task to bring it inside.
>
> Our former neighbours moved a couple hundred miles north of here and
> have about 140 acres of woodlot. Most of what they cleared for the
> house was softwood. Their house heating system involves an outdoor
> wood burning boiler. When we visited them a couple years ago I
> wondered about the quality of the wood and the work involved in
> feeding that boiler.
>
> Last Christmas Eve the wife down visiting friends and dropped by to
> say hello. When I asked her where Roy was she said he was home
> feeding the furnace....stupidest thing he ever did.
>
> Here is a video review of a similar system and a guy who is as
> thrilled with his heating system as the old neighbours are.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0I1Mjvr_4E

Why did he put it so far from where he needs the heat? Best I can tell
he's only heating a shed with all that.

On 2018-11-26 4:26 PM, cshenk wrote:

>> Last Christmas Eve the wife down visiting friends and dropped by to
>> say hello. When I asked her where Roy was she said he was home
>> feeding the furnace....stupidest thing he ever did.
>>
>> Here is a video review of a similar system and a guy who is as
>> thrilled with his heating system as the old neighbours are.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0I1Mjvr_4E
>
> Why did he put it so far from where he needs the heat? Best I can tell
> he's only heating a shed with all that.
>

There are municipal rules and insurance regulations that require a
certain distance between the wood burning furnace and the house. My
friend's unit is more than 100 feet from the house.

I did a little bit of research and noted that some cities have made them
all but impossible to install. They have minimum distances from the
house, from other buildings, from property line, from neighbouring
houses, from the road. There are not many properties in cities large
enough to meet those requirements.

Using wood or other solid fuels for heating ties you down too much.
There is the work to cut the wood, chop it, split it, pile it, feed the
furnace. Without a back up heat source you can not go away overnight
without worrying about the furnace.

On 11/26/2018 4:26 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> On 2018-11-26 12:16 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Good sized wood pile. I always liked heating with wood but I
>>>> found as I got older it was easier to write a check for oil than
>>>> bring in a few cords of wood. I have a Vermont Castings stove
>>>> that can be burned open or closed. We'd sometimes cook on top of
>>>> it but other times I'd let the wood go down enough to open the
>>>> doors and grill a steak over the coals.
>>>
>>> I'd love a good old Ben Franklin here! It could go in the back room
>>> but needs a fair clearance and the room isnt that big.
>>>
>>> If we ever enclose the back porch fully though, that would be the
>>> trick. It's 13ft x 44 ft.
>>>
>>> I get you on bringing in the wood, both to the yard and stacking and
>>> then a daily task to bring it inside.
>>
>> Our former neighbours moved a couple hundred miles north of here and
>> have about 140 acres of woodlot. Most of what they cleared for the
>> house was softwood. Their house heating system involves an outdoor
>> wood burning boiler. When we visited them a couple years ago I
>> wondered about the quality of the wood and the work involved in
>> feeding that boiler.
>>
>> Last Christmas Eve the wife down visiting friends and dropped by to
>> say hello. When I asked her where Roy was she said he was home
>> feeding the furnace....stupidest thing he ever did.
>>
>> Here is a video review of a similar system and a guy who is as
>> thrilled with his heating system as the old neighbours are.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0I1Mjvr_4E
>
> Why did he put it so far from where he needs the heat? Best I can tell
> he's only heating a shed with all that.
>
They have been outlawed in many town here because of the pollution.

On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 11:26:32 AM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>
> > On 2018-11-26 12:16 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > > Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > Good sized wood pile. I always liked heating with wood but I
> > > > found as I got older it was easier to write a check for oil than
> > > > bring in a few cords of wood. I have a Vermont Castings stove
> > > > that can be burned open or closed. We'd sometimes cook on top of
> > > > it but other times I'd let the wood go down enough to open the
> > > > doors and grill a steak over the coals.
> > >
> > > I'd love a good old Ben Franklin here! It could go in the back room
> > > but needs a fair clearance and the room isnt that big.
> > >
> > > If we ever enclose the back porch fully though, that would be the
> > > trick. It's 13ft x 44 ft.
> > >
> > > I get you on bringing in the wood, both to the yard and stacking and
> > > then a daily task to bring it inside.
> >
> > Our former neighbours moved a couple hundred miles north of here and
> > have about 140 acres of woodlot. Most of what they cleared for the
> > house was softwood. Their house heating system involves an outdoor
> > wood burning boiler. When we visited them a couple years ago I
> > wondered about the quality of the wood and the work involved in
> > feeding that boiler.
> >
> > Last Christmas Eve the wife down visiting friends and dropped by to
> > say hello. When I asked her where Roy was she said he was home
> > feeding the furnace....stupidest thing he ever did.
> >
> > Here is a video review of a similar system and a guy who is as
> > thrilled with his heating system as the old neighbours are.
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0I1Mjvr_4E
>
> Why did he put it so far from where he needs the heat? Best I can tell
> he's only heating a shed with all that.

My Swedish step-mom had her house in Goteborg heated in the same way except that the boiler was probably a lot further than that chap's in the video. The city supplied heat to houses using a network of hot water pipes and a central boiler. I thought that was the nuttiest thing I ever heard. OTOH the Swedes, while a bit on the morose side, are a fairly practical people is it's probably not as crazy as it sounds.

cshenk > wrote:
> Working out how to share a photo. Nothing fancy here, just my backyard
> and some of the wood pile
>
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM
>

Nice wood stockpile! We just had the chimney sweep out on Saturday morning
to inspect the condition of the fireplace in the new house before we
started using it. We had our first big thanksgiving family and friends
gathering in the new house later that afternoon, and it was so nice to have
a beautiful fire going in the living room. It really added to the cozy log
cabin vibe. Im fast tracking some campfire cast iron pie makers and
whatnot onto my wishlist because I think that would be a fun thing for my
daughter to do, especially if she has friends over this winter.

The old owners had a small stockpile of wood left behind for us, but we
definitely need a lot more to get through the winter. It hasnt really
snowed much yet here, so we did go around and collect a bit of the smaller
stuff on Sunday. There are a few fallen trees (mostly oak and maple) in
the woods to gather, but we need to acquire a chainsaw for those. Theres
an old shed up the driveway a ways, and itll be a great wood shed. Or
chicken coop€”time will tell. LOL

On 11/26/2018 12:16 PM, Jinx the Minx wrote:
> cshenk > wrote:
>> Working out how to share a photo. Nothing fancy here, just my backyard
>> and some of the wood pile
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM
>>
> Nice wood stockpile! We just had the chimney sweep out on Saturday morning
> to inspect the condition of the fireplace in the new house before we
> started using it. We had our first big thanksgiving family and friends
> gathering in the new house later that afternoon, and it was so nice to have
> a beautiful fire going in the living room. It really added to the cozy log
> cabin vibe. Im fast tracking some campfire cast iron pie makers and
> whatnot onto my wishlist because I think that would be a fun thing for my
> daughter to do, especially if she has friends over this winter.
>
> The old owners had a small stockpile of wood left behind for us, but we
> definitely need a lot more to get through the winter. It hasnt really
> snowed much yet here, so we did go around and collect a bit of the smaller
> stuff on Sunday. There are a few fallen trees (mostly oak and maple) in
> the woods to gather, but we need to acquire a chainsaw for those. Theres
> an old shed up the driveway a ways, and itll be a great wood shed. Or
> chicken coop€”time will tell. LOL
>
>
>
Â* Don't skimp on a good chainsaw ! Stihl and Husq-Varna both make good
ones . I looked closely at the label on my consumer-grade Poulan , and
guess what I found ? That saw is only designed to last FIFTY HOURS !
That's run-time , but geez , that's ridiculous ! I put way more hours
than that on each of mine every year . I'm surprised that one has lasted
as long as it has , probably because I maintain them well and never ever
run a chain dull or dry . BTW , maple is lousy firewood , but usable if
that's all ya got . My preference is oak , white or red , with hickory
close behind .

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !

Terry Coombs > wrote:
> On 11/26/2018 12:16 PM, Jinx the Minx wrote:
>> cshenk > wrote:
>>> Working out how to share a photo. Nothing fancy here, just my backyard
>>> and some of the wood pile
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM
>>>
>> Nice wood stockpile! We just had the chimney sweep out on Saturday morning
>> to inspect the condition of the fireplace in the new house before we
>> started using it. We had our first big thanksgiving family and friends
>> gathering in the new house later that afternoon, and it was so nice to have
>> a beautiful fire going in the living room. It really added to the cozy log
>> cabin vibe. Im fast tracking some campfire cast iron pie makers and
>> whatnot onto my wishlist because I think that would be a fun thing for my
>> daughter to do, especially if she has friends over this winter.
>>
>> The old owners had a small stockpile of wood left behind for us, but we
>> definitely need a lot more to get through the winter. It hasnt really
>> snowed much yet here, so we did go around and collect a bit of the smaller
>> stuff on Sunday. There are a few fallen trees (mostly oak and maple) in
>> the woods to gather, but we need to acquire a chainsaw for those. Theres
>> an old shed up the driveway a ways, and itll be a great wood shed. Or
>> chicken coop€”time will tell. LOL
>>
>>
>>
> Â* Don't skimp on a good chainsaw ! Stihl and Husq-Varna both make good
> ones . I looked closely at the label on my consumer-grade Poulan , and
> guess what I found ? That saw is only designed to last FIFTY HOURS !
> That's run-time , but geez , that's ridiculous ! I put way more hours
> than that on each of mine every year . I'm surprised that one has lasted
> as long as it has , probably because I maintain them well and never ever
> run a chain dull or dry . BTW , maple is lousy firewood , but usable if
> that's all ya got . My preference is oak , white or red , with hickory
> close behind .
>

Thanks for the excellent advice! My dad has a good Stihl one, and now that
hes older and his chainsaw days are mostly behind him, I was going to ask
if we could buy/borrow his for the time being. The oak abounds out there,
and is the majority of the tree cover, at least closest to the house. I
couldnt tell you though what kind of oak, however. Thats something to
google-learn another day. Theres enough acorn droppings out there to sell
by the wagonload (or feed deer by the herdful). Maybe next year. Plenty of
sugar maples, too. Ive marked the best ones for tapping in the spring.
Much to my dismay, no black walnuts trees there.

On 2018-11-26 3:16 PM, Jinx the Minx wrote:
> Terry Coombs > wrote:


>> Â* Don't skimp on a good chainsaw ! Stihl and Husq-Varna both make good
>> ones . I looked closely at the label on my consumer-grade Poulan , and
>> guess what I found ? That saw is only designed to last FIFTY HOURS !
>> That's run-time , but geez , that's ridiculous ! I put way more hours
>> than that on each of mine every year . I'm surprised that one has lasted
>> as long as it has , probably because I maintain them well and never ever
>> run a chain dull or dry . BTW , maple is lousy firewood , but usable if
>> that's all ya got . My preference is oak , white or red , with hickory
>> close behind .
>>
>
> Thanks for the excellent advice! My dad has a good Stihl one, and now that
> hes older and his chainsaw days are mostly behind him, I was going to ask
> if we could buy/borrow his for the time being. The oak abounds out there,
> and is the majority of the tree cover, at least closest to the house. I
> couldnt tell you though what kind of oak, however. Thats something to
> google-learn another day. Theres enough acorn droppings out there to sell
> by the wagonload (or feed deer by the herdful). Maybe next year. Plenty of
> sugar maples, too. Ive marked the best ones for tapping in the spring.
> Much to my dismay, no black walnuts trees there.


Don't be surprised if he is reluctant to share a good chainsaw. It is a
tool that a lot of people don't like to share. They are too easily
broken by non-owners who might for get to use chain oil, use the wrong
gas-oil ratio, cut into nails or into the dirt. They will be dulling the
chain and likely not sharpening it properly.

Dave Smith > wrote:
> On 2018-11-26 3:16 PM, Jinx the Minx wrote:
>> Terry Coombs > wrote:
>
>
>>> Â* Don't skimp on a good chainsaw ! Stihl and Husq-Varna both make good
>>> ones . I looked closely at the label on my consumer-grade Poulan , and
>>> guess what I found ? That saw is only designed to last FIFTY HOURS !
>>> That's run-time , but geez , that's ridiculous ! I put way more hours
>>> than that on each of mine every year . I'm surprised that one has lasted
>>> as long as it has , probably because I maintain them well and never ever
>>> run a chain dull or dry . BTW , maple is lousy firewood , but usable if
>>> that's all ya got . My preference is oak , white or red , with hickory
>>> close behind .
>>>
>>
>> Thanks for the excellent advice! My dad has a good Stihl one, and now that
>> hes older and his chainsaw days are mostly behind him, I was going to ask
>> if we could buy/borrow his for the time being. The oak abounds out there,
>> and is the majority of the tree cover, at least closest to the house. I
>> couldnt tell you though what kind of oak, however. Thats something to
>> google-learn another day. Theres enough acorn droppings out there to sell
>> by the wagonload (or feed deer by the herdful). Maybe next year. Plenty of
>> sugar maples, too. Ive marked the best ones for tapping in the spring.
>> Much to my dismay, no black walnuts trees there.
>
>
> Don't be surprised if he is reluctant to share a good chainsaw. It is a
> tool that a lot of people don't like to share. They are too easily
> broken by non-owners who might for get to use chain oil, use the wrong
> gas-oil ratio, cut into nails or into the dirt. They will be dulling the
> chain and likely not sharpening it properly.
>
>
>
>

Youre quite right, but my dad isnt in the best of health and really has
no logistical need for a chainsaw anymore. They no longer live out in the
country, and they snowbird in Nevada for several months, usually. This
year they are staying put for medical treatment.

On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 18:16:21 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx
> wrote:

>cshenk > wrote:
>> Working out how to share a photo. Nothing fancy here, just my backyard
>> and some of the wood pile
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM
>>
>
>Nice wood stockpile! We just had the chimney sweep out on Saturday morning
>to inspect the condition of the fireplace in the new house before we
>started using it. We had our first big thanksgiving family and friends
>gathering in the new house later that afternoon, and it was so nice to have
>a beautiful fire going in the living room. It really added to the cozy log
>cabin vibe. I’m fast tracking some campfire cast iron pie makers and
>whatnot onto my wishlist because I think that would be a fun thing for my
>daughter to do, especially if she has friends over this winter.
>
>The old owners had a small stockpile of wood left behind for us, but we
>definitely need a lot more to get through the winter. It hasn’t really
>snowed much yet here, so we did go around and collect a bit of the smaller
>stuff on Sunday. There are a few fallen trees (mostly oak and maple) in
>the woods to gather, but we need to acquire a chainsaw for those. There’s
>an old shed up the driveway a ways, and it’ll be a great wood shed. Or
>chicken coop—time will tell. LOL

I've never met anyone who heats with wood who doesn't own at least one
chain saw.

On 2018-11-26 5:05 PM, wrote:

>> The old owners had a small stockpile of wood left behind for us, but we
>> definitely need a lot more to get through the winter. It hasnt really
>> snowed much yet here, so we did go around and collect a bit of the smaller
>> stuff on Sunday. There are a few fallen trees (mostly oak and maple) in
>> the woods to gather, but we need to acquire a chainsaw for those. Theres
>> an old shed up the driveway a ways, and itll be a great wood shed. Or
>> chicken coop€”time will tell. LOL
>
> I've never met anyone who heats with wood who doesn't own at least one
> chain saw.

Our neighbours when we first moved here heated with wood. He had a job
at General Motors and worked steady midnights. His wife was a loans
officer at a bank. I don't know how many chainsaws he went through in
the time he lived next door, but he went through at least two tractors
and a four pick up trucks. We worked all night and spent his days in a
wood lot cutting firewood, splitting it and hauling it home.

With all the talk about climate change and carbon emissions, I am
surprised that governments have not banned wood burning heat.

Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2018-11-26 5:05 PM, wrote:
>
> > > The old owners had a small stockpile of wood left behind for us,
> > > but we definitely need a lot more to get through the winter. It
> > > hasnt really snowed much yet here, so we did go around and
> > > collect a bit of the smaller stuff on Sunday. There are a few
> > > fallen trees (mostly oak and maple) in the woods to gather, but
> > > we need to acquire a chainsaw for those. Theres an old shed up
> > > the driveway a ways, and itll be a great wood shed. Or chicken
> > > coop€”time will tell. LOL
> >
> > I've never met anyone who heats with wood who doesn't own at least
> > one chain saw.
>
> Our neighbours when we first moved here heated with wood. He had a
> job at General Motors and worked steady midnights. His wife was a
> loans officer at a bank. I don't know how many chainsaws he went
> through in the time he lived next door, but he went through at least
> two tractors and a four pick up trucks. We worked all night and spent
> his days in a wood lot cutting firewood, splitting it and hauling it
> home.
>
> With all the talk about climate change and carbon emissions, I am
> surprised that governments have not banned wood burning heat.

Why would they ban wood heating? Remember climate change has many
issues but a small contained fire isnt one of them. A car does more
damage in a week than a fireplace does in a year.

On 11/28/2018 9:25 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:

>>
>> With all the talk about climate change and carbon emissions, I am
>> surprised that governments have not banned wood burning heat.
>
> Why would they ban wood heating? Remember climate change has many
> issues but a small contained fire isnt one of them. A car does more
> damage in a week than a fireplace does in a year.
>

Not since the 1950s. Car are rather clean today. Some woodstoves to
have catalytic converters, most don't. Outdoor wood boilers have been
banned is some towns in CT because of the pollution.

http://woodsmoke.3sc.net/woodheater-car-comparison

The NSW EPA estimates that a new wood heater emits 9.8 kg of
health-hazardous PM2.5 for every tonne of firewood burned and about 20
grams of PM2.5 in the first hour after the stove is lit. Petrol cars
emit 1 mg PM2.5 per km, or 1 gram per 1,000 km. Thus a brand new heater
will emit more PM2.5 in the first hour after lighting than a petrol car
in an entire year of driving.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...-alternatives/
The Childrens Health Environmental Coalition (CHEC) concurs, citing a
raft of studies that show how children living in wood-burning households
experience €œhigher rates of lung inflammation, breathing difficulties,
pneumonia, and other respiratory diseases.€� For its part, the U.S.
Environmental Protection Agency warns that those with congestive heart
failure, angina, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, emphysema or
asthma should avoid wood smoke if possible. Wood smoke is also bad for
the outdoors environment, contributing to smog, acid rain and other
problems.

https://www.epa.gov/burnwise/wood-smoke-and-your-health

On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 20:25:17 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:

>Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> On 2018-11-26 5:05 PM, wrote:
>>
>> > > The old owners had a small stockpile of wood left behind for us,
>> > > but we definitely need a lot more to get through the winter. It
>> > > hasn’t really snowed much yet here, so we did go around and
>> > > collect a bit of the smaller stuff on Sunday. There are a few
>> > > fallen trees (mostly oak and maple) in the woods to gather, but
>> > > we need to acquire a chainsaw for those. There’s an old shed up
>> > > the driveway a ways, and it’ll be a great wood shed. Or chicken
>> > > coop—time will tell. LOL
>> >
>> > I've never met anyone who heats with wood who doesn't own at least
>> > one chain saw.
>>
>> Our neighbours when we first moved here heated with wood. He had a
>> job at General Motors and worked steady midnights. His wife was a
>> loans officer at a bank. I don't know how many chainsaws he went
>> through in the time he lived next door, but he went through at least
>> two tractors and a four pick up trucks. We worked all night and spent
>> his days in a wood lot cutting firewood, splitting it and hauling it
>> home.
>>
>> With all the talk about climate change and carbon emissions, I am
>> surprised that governments have not banned wood burning heat.
>
>Why would they ban wood heating? Remember climate change has many
>issues but a small contained fire isnt one of them. A car does more
>damage in a week than a fireplace does in a year.

Wood burning stoves and fireplaces are regularly banned from burning
during some days in the winter around here. Too much wood smoke
causes air pollution (which is strictly monitored here) and becomes a
health hazard for the very young, the elderly and those with health
issues.
Janet US

> wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 18:16:21 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx
> > wrote:
>
>> cshenk > wrote:
>>> Working out how to share a photo. Nothing fancy here, just my backyard
>>> and some of the wood pile
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM
>>>
>>
>> Nice wood stockpile! We just had the chimney sweep out on Saturday morning
>> to inspect the condition of the fireplace in the new house before we
>> started using it. We had our first big thanksgiving family and friends
>> gathering in the new house later that afternoon, and it was so nice to have
>> a beautiful fire going in the living room. It really added to the cozy log
>> cabin vibe. IÂ’m fast tracking some campfire cast iron pie makers and
>> whatnot onto my wishlist because I think that would be a fun thing for my
>> daughter to do, especially if she has friends over this winter.
>>
>> The old owners had a small stockpile of wood left behind for us, but we
>> definitely need a lot more to get through the winter. It hasnÂ’t really
>> snowed much yet here, so we did go around and collect a bit of the smaller
>> stuff on Sunday. There are a few fallen trees (mostly oak and maple) in
>> the woods to gather, but we need to acquire a chainsaw for those. ThereÂ’s
>> an old shed up the driveway a ways, and itÂ’ll be a great wood shed. Or
>> chicken coop—time will tell. LOL
>
> I've never met anyone who heats with wood who doesn't own at least one
> chain saw.
>
>

Fortunately for me, we have other heat sources. The last thing I want is
to be chained to a wood stove for 6 months out of the year. Its a nice
supplement, however.

On 2018-11-27 12:02 AM, Jinx the Minx wrote:
> > wrote:
>> On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 18:16:21 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx

>> I've never met anyone who heats with wood who doesn't own at least one
>> chain saw.
>>
>>
>
> Fortunately for me, we have other heat sources. The last thing I want is
> to be chained to a wood stove for 6 months out of the year. Its a nice
> supplement, however.

My former neighbour is pretty much under house arrest with his wood
fired boiler. He can put enough wood in the evening to keep the place
warm all night, but he has to be there in the morning to add more. They
cannot go away overnight and leave it. The wife is not very happy about
that. They used to do a lot of travel together.

On 11/27/2018 10:15 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-11-27 12:02 AM, Jinx the Minx wrote:
>> > wrote:
>>> On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 18:16:21 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx
>
>>> I've never met anyone who heats with wood who doesn't own at least one
>>> chain saw.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Fortunately for me, we have other heat sources.Â* The last thing I want is
>> to be chained to a wood stove for 6 months out of the year.Â* Its a nice
>> supplement, however.
>
> My former neighbour is pretty much under house arrest with his wood
> fired boiler.Â* He can put enough wood in the evening to keep the place
> warm all night, but he has to be there in the morning to add more.Â* They
> cannot go away overnight and leave it.Â* The wife is not very happy about
> that.Â* They used to do a lot of travel together.
>
>
>
>
Yeah, but he saved $50 on heating last year.

From my experience in my area, if you have to buy wood the saving is
minimal. "Free" wood takes a lot of labor. It keeps the room with the
stove very warm and cozy.

It does satisfy the primal urges to make fire, cook with it and all that
stuff, but it is crazy to make it the single source. It makes you a
slave. A few days a year I'd want to crank up the stove, make a stew or
pot roast, but it is much less labor to adjust the thermostat.

On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 10:15:26 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2018-11-27 12:02 AM, Jinx the Minx wrote:
>> > wrote:
>>> On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 18:16:21 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx
>
>>> I've never met anyone who heats with wood who doesn't own at least one
>>> chain saw.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Fortunately for me, we have other heat sources. The last thing I want is
>> to be chained to a wood stove for 6 months out of the year. It’s a nice
>> supplement, however.
>
>My former neighbour is pretty much under house arrest with his wood
>fired boiler. He can put enough wood in the evening to keep the place
>warm all night, but he has to be there in the morning to add more. They
>cannot go away overnight and leave it. The wife is not very happy about
>that. They used to do a lot of travel together.

They can't leave it at all? Don't they have a back-up heat source? We
have a wood stove in the kitchen/family room that keeps us nice and
toasty warm, and I can't imagine living without it, but we also have a
propane furnace for nights and when we are away. We buy our wood cut,
split, and delivered from DH's cousin - we get a 3-cord load in a dump
truck, and all we have to do is stack it in the barn.

Doris

On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 8:59:57 AM UTC-6, cshenk wrote:
>
> Working out how to share a photo. Nothing fancy here, just my backyard
> and some of the wood pile
>
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM
>
Looks like you are ready for winter!

On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 11:35:03 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 8:59:57 AM UTC-6, cshenk wrote:
>>
>> Working out how to share a photo. Nothing fancy here, just my backyard
>> and some of the wood pile
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM
>>
>Looks like you are ready for winter!

Tiny house, though.

On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 1:46:34 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>
> On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 11:35:03 -0800 (PST), "
> > wrote:
>
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM
> >>
> >Looks like you are ready for winter!
>
> Tiny house, though.
>
Yeah, if they burn all that wood they'll roast!!

;-)

wrote:

> On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 1:46:34 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 11:35:03 -0800 (PST),
> > " > wrote:
> >
> >
https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM
> > > >
> > > Looks like you are ready for winter!
> >
> > Tiny house, though.
> >
> Yeah, if they burn all that wood they'll roast!!
>
> ;-)

Naw, its 2 years worth. Not but 8 racks and a few smaller ones out of
view.

On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 3:42:48 PM UTC-6, cshenk wrote:
>
> wrote:
>
> > On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 1:46:34 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 11:35:03 -0800 (PST),
> > > " > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM
> > > > >
> > > > Looks like you are ready for winter!
> > >
> > > Tiny house, though.
> > >
> > Yeah, if they burn all that wood they'll roast!!
> >
> > ;-)
>
> Naw, its 2 years worth. Not but 8 racks and a few smaller ones out of
> view.
>
We were making a lame funny about the 'tiny' house when we're looking at
the dog house.

On 11/26/2018 9:59 AM, cshenk wrote:
> Working out how to share a photo. Nothing fancy here, just my backyard
> and some of the wood pile
>
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM
>
Nice pic. There are so many free photo sharing sites, I'm not sure why
you chose Amazon. Whatever!

Jill