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Working out how to share a photo. Nothing fancy here, just my backyard
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On 11/26/2018 8:59 AM, cshenk wrote:
> Working out how to share a photo. Nothing fancy here, just my backyard > and some of the wood pile > > https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM Â* I'm guessing y'all heat with wood ... how many cords per year do you burn ? -- Snag Yes , I'm old and crochety - and armed . Get outta my woods ! |
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On 11/26/2018 9:59 AM, cshenk wrote:
> Working out how to share a photo. Nothing fancy here, just my backyard > and some of the wood pile > > https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM > Good sized wood pile. I always liked heating with wood but I found as I got older it was easier to write a check for oil than bring in a few cords of wood. I have a Vermont Castings stove that can be burned open or closed. We'd sometimes cook on top of it but other times I'd let the wood go down enough to open the doors and grill a steak over the coals. |
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On 11/26/2018 11:09 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 11/26/2018 9:59 AM, cshenk wrote: >> Working out how to share a photo.Â* Nothing fancy here, just my backyard >> and some of the wood pile >> >> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM >> >> > > Good sized wood pile.Â* I always liked heating with wood but I found as I > got older it was easier to write a check for oil than bring in a few > cords of wood.Â* I have a Vermont Castings stove that can be burned open > or closed.Â* We'd sometimes cook on top of it but other times I'd let the > wood go down enough to open the doors and grill a steak over the coals. You won't have to worry much about wood for heat once you get to Florida. :) It's nice to have a wood burning fireplace, though. For ambiance. I miss having a wood burning fireplace. Jill |
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Terry Coombs wrote:
> On 11/26/2018 8:59 AM, cshenk wrote: > > Working out how to share a photo. Nothing fancy here, just my > > backyard and some of the wood pile > > > > https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM > > Â* I'm guessing y'all heat with wood ... how many cords per year do > you burn ? We augment the HVAC with a fireplace and that picture shows about 2 cords (maybe 2.5) of wood. We burn from 1/2-1 cord a year (depends on the cold that year). Last year due to Don's hernia issues, we used less but the temps here are quite variable so that happens. Once the highs hit mid-40's we start the fireplace off. Give it 2 more weeks or so here? Then we kick it off in the morning by 9am and bank it by 9pm. The HVAC under those conditions kicks in randomly at 35F outside but only regular at 20F. Runs about 150$ a month savings at least, *after* paying for the wood. In my area we have 'heat pumps' so they lack efficiency of the true cold weather systems. Noted is you need a home layout that takes proper use of a fireplace. Open to heat much of the house. Carol |
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> On 11/26/2018 9:59 AM, cshenk wrote: > > Working out how to share a photo. Nothing fancy here, just my > > backyard and some of the wood pile > > > > https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM > > > > Good sized wood pile. I always liked heating with wood but I found > as I got older it was easier to write a check for oil than bring in a > few cords of wood. I have a Vermont Castings stove that can be > burned open or closed. We'd sometimes cook on top of it but other > times I'd let the wood go down enough to open the doors and grill a > steak over the coals. I'd love a good old Ben Franklin here! It could go in the back room but needs a fair clearance and the room isnt that big. If we ever enclose the back porch fully though, that would be the trick. It's 13ft x 44 ft. I get you on bringing in the wood, both to the yard and stacking and then a daily task to bring it inside. |
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On 11/26/2018 11:04 AM, cshenk wrote:
> Terry Coombs wrote: > >> On 11/26/2018 8:59 AM, cshenk wrote: >>> Working out how to share a photo. Nothing fancy here, just my >>> backyard and some of the wood pile >>> >>> > https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM >> Â* I'm guessing y'all heat with wood ... how many cords per year do >> you burn ? > We augment the HVAC with a fireplace and that picture shows about 2 > cords (maybe 2.5) of wood. We burn from 1/2-1 cord a year (depends on > the cold that year). Last year due to Don's hernia issues, we used > less but the temps here are quite variable so that happens. > > Once the highs hit mid-40's we start the fireplace off. Give it 2 more > weeks or so here? Then we kick it off in the morning by 9am and bank > it by 9pm. The HVAC under those conditions kicks in randomly at 35F > outside but only regular at 20F. Runs about 150$ a month savings at > least, *after* paying for the wood. > > In my area we have 'heat pumps' so they lack efficiency of the true > cold weather systems. Noted is you need a home layout that takes proper > use of a fireplace. Open to heat much of the house. > Carol Â* Wood burning stove and window units for summer ... We have a radiant LP gas wall mounted heater for when we're gone for a day or two , but wood is the main heat source . And it only costs me the gas and labor to process the firewood ... well , and the aches and pains when I'm done . Works well for us , the living/dining rooms are basically one big room 40 feet long . Bedroom has an opening in the wall above the stove in the living room (originally for an A/C unit) that I mount a fan in for winter . Leave the door open and it keeps the whole house pretty much evenly heated . -- Snag Yes , I'm old and crochety - and armed . Get outta my woods ! |
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cshenk > wrote:
> Working out how to share a photo. Nothing fancy here, just my backyard > and some of the wood pile > > https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM > Nice wood stockpile! We just had the chimney sweep out on Saturday morning to inspect the condition of the fireplace in the new house before we started using it. We had our first big thanksgiving family and friends gathering in the new house later that afternoon, and it was so nice to have a beautiful fire going in the living room. It really added to the cozy log cabin vibe. Im fast tracking some campfire cast iron pie makers and whatnot onto my wishlist because I think that would be a fun thing for my daughter to do, especially if she has friends over this winter. The old owners had a small stockpile of wood left behind for us, but we definitely need a lot more to get through the winter. It hasnt really snowed much yet here, so we did go around and collect a bit of the smaller stuff on Sunday. There are a few fallen trees (mostly oak and maple) in the woods to gather, but we need to acquire a chainsaw for those. Theres an old shed up the driveway a ways, and itll be a great wood shed. Or chicken coop€”time will tell. LOL |
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On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 11:16:29 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
>Ed Pawlowski wrote: > >> On 11/26/2018 9:59 AM, cshenk wrote: >> > Working out how to share a photo. Nothing fancy here, just my >> > backyard and some of the wood pile >> > >> > >https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM >> > >> >> Good sized wood pile. I always liked heating with wood but I found >> as I got older it was easier to write a check for oil than bring in a >> few cords of wood. I have a Vermont Castings stove that can be >> burned open or closed. We'd sometimes cook on top of it but other >> times I'd let the wood go down enough to open the doors and grill a >> steak over the coals. > >I'd love a good old Ben Franklin here! It could go in the back room >but needs a fair clearance and the room isnt that big. > >If we ever enclose the back porch fully though, that would be the >trick. It's 13ft x 44 ft. > >I get you on bringing in the wood, both to the yard and stacking and >then a daily task to bring it inside. Carrying and stacking are the easiest parts. You forgot cutting and splitting... and then the ashes. |
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On 11/26/2018 12:16 PM, Jinx the Minx wrote:
> cshenk > wrote: >> Working out how to share a photo. Nothing fancy here, just my backyard >> and some of the wood pile >> >> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM >> > Nice wood stockpile! We just had the chimney sweep out on Saturday morning > to inspect the condition of the fireplace in the new house before we > started using it. We had our first big thanksgiving family and friends > gathering in the new house later that afternoon, and it was so nice to have > a beautiful fire going in the living room. It really added to the cozy log > cabin vibe. Im fast tracking some campfire cast iron pie makers and > whatnot onto my wishlist because I think that would be a fun thing for my > daughter to do, especially if she has friends over this winter. > > The old owners had a small stockpile of wood left behind for us, but we > definitely need a lot more to get through the winter. It hasnt really > snowed much yet here, so we did go around and collect a bit of the smaller > stuff on Sunday. There are a few fallen trees (mostly oak and maple) in > the woods to gather, but we need to acquire a chainsaw for those. Theres > an old shed up the driveway a ways, and itll be a great wood shed. Or > chicken coop€”time will tell. LOL > > > Â* Don't skimp on a good chainsaw ! Stihl and Husq-Varna both make good ones . I looked closely at the label on my consumer-grade Poulan , and guess what I found ? That saw is only designed to last FIFTY HOURS ! That's run-time , but geez , that's ridiculous ! I put way more hours than that on each of mine every year . I'm surprised that one has lasted as long as it has , probably because I maintain them well and never ever run a chain dull or dry . BTW , maple is lousy firewood , but usable if that's all ya got . My preference is oak , white or red , with hickory close behind . -- Snag Yes , I'm old and crochety - and armed . Get outta my woods ! |
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On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 8:59:57 AM UTC-6, cshenk wrote:
> > Working out how to share a photo. Nothing fancy here, just my backyard > and some of the wood pile > > https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM > Looks like you are ready for winter! |
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On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 11:35:03 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote: >On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 8:59:57 AM UTC-6, cshenk wrote: >> >> Working out how to share a photo. Nothing fancy here, just my backyard >> and some of the wood pile >> >> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM >> >Looks like you are ready for winter! Tiny house, though. |
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On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 1:46:34 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
> > On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 11:35:03 -0800 (PST), " > > wrote: > > https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM > >> > >Looks like you are ready for winter! > > Tiny house, though. > Yeah, if they burn all that wood they'll roast!! ;-) |
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On 2018-11-26 12:16 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Ed Pawlowski wrote: > > >> Good sized wood pile. I always liked heating with wood but I found >> as I got older it was easier to write a check for oil than bring in a >> few cords of wood. I have a Vermont Castings stove that can be >> burned open or closed. We'd sometimes cook on top of it but other >> times I'd let the wood go down enough to open the doors and grill a >> steak over the coals. > > I'd love a good old Ben Franklin here! It could go in the back room > but needs a fair clearance and the room isnt that big. > > If we ever enclose the back porch fully though, that would be the > trick. It's 13ft x 44 ft. > > I get you on bringing in the wood, both to the yard and stacking and > then a daily task to bring it inside. Our former neighbours moved a couple hundred miles north of here and have about 140 acres of woodlot. Most of what they cleared for the house was softwood. Their house heating system involves an outdoor wood burning boiler. When we visited them a couple years ago I wondered about the quality of the wood and the work involved in feeding that boiler. Last Christmas Eve the wife down visiting friends and dropped by to say hello. When I asked her where Roy was she said he was home feeding the furnace....stupidest thing he ever did. Here is a video review of a similar system and a guy who is as thrilled with his heating system as the old neighbours are. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0I1Mjvr_4E |
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Terry Coombs > wrote:
> On 11/26/2018 12:16 PM, Jinx the Minx wrote: >> cshenk > wrote: >>> Working out how to share a photo. Nothing fancy here, just my backyard >>> and some of the wood pile >>> >>> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM >>> >> Nice wood stockpile! We just had the chimney sweep out on Saturday morning >> to inspect the condition of the fireplace in the new house before we >> started using it. We had our first big thanksgiving family and friends >> gathering in the new house later that afternoon, and it was so nice to have >> a beautiful fire going in the living room. It really added to the cozy log >> cabin vibe. Im fast tracking some campfire cast iron pie makers and >> whatnot onto my wishlist because I think that would be a fun thing for my >> daughter to do, especially if she has friends over this winter. >> >> The old owners had a small stockpile of wood left behind for us, but we >> definitely need a lot more to get through the winter. It hasnt really >> snowed much yet here, so we did go around and collect a bit of the smaller >> stuff on Sunday. There are a few fallen trees (mostly oak and maple) in >> the woods to gather, but we need to acquire a chainsaw for those. Theres >> an old shed up the driveway a ways, and itll be a great wood shed. Or >> chicken coop€”time will tell. LOL >> >> >> > Â* Don't skimp on a good chainsaw ! Stihl and Husq-Varna both make good > ones . I looked closely at the label on my consumer-grade Poulan , and > guess what I found ? That saw is only designed to last FIFTY HOURS ! > That's run-time , but geez , that's ridiculous ! I put way more hours > than that on each of mine every year . I'm surprised that one has lasted > as long as it has , probably because I maintain them well and never ever > run a chain dull or dry . BTW , maple is lousy firewood , but usable if > that's all ya got . My preference is oak , white or red , with hickory > close behind . > Thanks for the excellent advice! My dad has a good Stihl one, and now that hes older and his chainsaw days are mostly behind him, I was going to ask if we could buy/borrow his for the time being. The oak abounds out there, and is the majority of the tree cover, at least closest to the house. I couldnt tell you though what kind of oak, however. Thats something to google-learn another day. Theres enough acorn droppings out there to sell by the wagonload (or feed deer by the herdful). Maybe next year. Plenty of sugar maples, too. Ive marked the best ones for tapping in the spring. Much to my dismay, no black walnuts trees there. |
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Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-11-26 12:16 PM, cshenk wrote: > > Ed Pawlowski wrote: > > > > > > > Good sized wood pile. I always liked heating with wood but I > > > found as I got older it was easier to write a check for oil than > > > bring in a few cords of wood. I have a Vermont Castings stove > > > that can be burned open or closed. We'd sometimes cook on top of > > > it but other times I'd let the wood go down enough to open the > > > doors and grill a steak over the coals. > > > > I'd love a good old Ben Franklin here! It could go in the back room > > but needs a fair clearance and the room isnt that big. > > > > If we ever enclose the back porch fully though, that would be the > > trick. It's 13ft x 44 ft. > > > > I get you on bringing in the wood, both to the yard and stacking and > > then a daily task to bring it inside. > > Our former neighbours moved a couple hundred miles north of here and > have about 140 acres of woodlot. Most of what they cleared for the > house was softwood. Their house heating system involves an outdoor > wood burning boiler. When we visited them a couple years ago I > wondered about the quality of the wood and the work involved in > feeding that boiler. > > Last Christmas Eve the wife down visiting friends and dropped by to > say hello. When I asked her where Roy was she said he was home > feeding the furnace....stupidest thing he ever did. > > Here is a video review of a similar system and a guy who is as > thrilled with his heating system as the old neighbours are. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0I1Mjvr_4E Why did he put it so far from where he needs the heat? Best I can tell he's only heating a shed with all that. |
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> On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 1:46:34 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: > > > > On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 11:35:03 -0800 (PST), > > " > wrote: > > > > https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM > > > > > > > Looks like you are ready for winter! > > > > Tiny house, though. > > > Yeah, if they burn all that wood they'll roast!! > > ;-) Naw, its 2 years worth. Not but 8 racks and a few smaller ones out of view. |
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On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 18:16:21 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx
> wrote: >cshenk > wrote: >> Working out how to share a photo. Nothing fancy here, just my backyard >> and some of the wood pile >> >> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM >> > >Nice wood stockpile! We just had the chimney sweep out on Saturday morning >to inspect the condition of the fireplace in the new house before we >started using it. We had our first big thanksgiving family and friends >gathering in the new house later that afternoon, and it was so nice to have >a beautiful fire going in the living room. It really added to the cozy log >cabin vibe. I’m fast tracking some campfire cast iron pie makers and >whatnot onto my wishlist because I think that would be a fun thing for my >daughter to do, especially if she has friends over this winter. > >The old owners had a small stockpile of wood left behind for us, but we >definitely need a lot more to get through the winter. It hasn’t really >snowed much yet here, so we did go around and collect a bit of the smaller >stuff on Sunday. There are a few fallen trees (mostly oak and maple) in >the woods to gather, but we need to acquire a chainsaw for those. There’s >an old shed up the driveway a ways, and it’ll be a great wood shed. Or >chicken coop—time will tell. LOL I've never met anyone who heats with wood who doesn't own at least one chain saw. |
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On 2018-11-26 3:16 PM, Jinx the Minx wrote:
> Terry Coombs > wrote: >> Â* Don't skimp on a good chainsaw ! Stihl and Husq-Varna both make good >> ones . I looked closely at the label on my consumer-grade Poulan , and >> guess what I found ? That saw is only designed to last FIFTY HOURS ! >> That's run-time , but geez , that's ridiculous ! I put way more hours >> than that on each of mine every year . I'm surprised that one has lasted >> as long as it has , probably because I maintain them well and never ever >> run a chain dull or dry . BTW , maple is lousy firewood , but usable if >> that's all ya got . My preference is oak , white or red , with hickory >> close behind . >> > > Thanks for the excellent advice! My dad has a good Stihl one, and now that > hes older and his chainsaw days are mostly behind him, I was going to ask > if we could buy/borrow his for the time being. The oak abounds out there, > and is the majority of the tree cover, at least closest to the house. I > couldnt tell you though what kind of oak, however. Thats something to > google-learn another day. Theres enough acorn droppings out there to sell > by the wagonload (or feed deer by the herdful). Maybe next year. Plenty of > sugar maples, too. Ive marked the best ones for tapping in the spring. > Much to my dismay, no black walnuts trees there. Don't be surprised if he is reluctant to share a good chainsaw. It is a tool that a lot of people don't like to share. They are too easily broken by non-owners who might for get to use chain oil, use the wrong gas-oil ratio, cut into nails or into the dirt. They will be dulling the chain and likely not sharpening it properly. |
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On 2018-11-26 4:26 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> Last Christmas Eve the wife down visiting friends and dropped by to >> say hello. When I asked her where Roy was she said he was home >> feeding the furnace....stupidest thing he ever did. >> >> Here is a video review of a similar system and a guy who is as >> thrilled with his heating system as the old neighbours are. >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0I1Mjvr_4E > > Why did he put it so far from where he needs the heat? Best I can tell > he's only heating a shed with all that. > There are municipal rules and insurance regulations that require a certain distance between the wood burning furnace and the house. My friend's unit is more than 100 feet from the house. I did a little bit of research and noted that some cities have made them all but impossible to install. They have minimum distances from the house, from other buildings, from property line, from neighbouring houses, from the road. There are not many properties in cities large enough to meet those requirements. Using wood or other solid fuels for heating ties you down too much. There is the work to cut the wood, chop it, split it, pile it, feed the furnace. Without a back up heat source you can not go away overnight without worrying about the furnace. |
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On 11/26/2018 4:26 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote: > >> On 2018-11-26 12:16 PM, cshenk wrote: >>> Ed Pawlowski wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Good sized wood pile. I always liked heating with wood but I >>>> found as I got older it was easier to write a check for oil than >>>> bring in a few cords of wood. I have a Vermont Castings stove >>>> that can be burned open or closed. We'd sometimes cook on top of >>>> it but other times I'd let the wood go down enough to open the >>>> doors and grill a steak over the coals. >>> >>> I'd love a good old Ben Franklin here! It could go in the back room >>> but needs a fair clearance and the room isnt that big. >>> >>> If we ever enclose the back porch fully though, that would be the >>> trick. It's 13ft x 44 ft. >>> >>> I get you on bringing in the wood, both to the yard and stacking and >>> then a daily task to bring it inside. >> >> Our former neighbours moved a couple hundred miles north of here and >> have about 140 acres of woodlot. Most of what they cleared for the >> house was softwood. Their house heating system involves an outdoor >> wood burning boiler. When we visited them a couple years ago I >> wondered about the quality of the wood and the work involved in >> feeding that boiler. >> >> Last Christmas Eve the wife down visiting friends and dropped by to >> say hello. When I asked her where Roy was she said he was home >> feeding the furnace....stupidest thing he ever did. >> >> Here is a video review of a similar system and a guy who is as >> thrilled with his heating system as the old neighbours are. >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0I1Mjvr_4E > > Why did he put it so far from where he needs the heat? Best I can tell > he's only heating a shed with all that. > They have been outlawed in many town here because of the pollution. |
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On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 11:26:32 AM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote: > > > On 2018-11-26 12:16 PM, cshenk wrote: > > > Ed Pawlowski wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Good sized wood pile. I always liked heating with wood but I > > > > found as I got older it was easier to write a check for oil than > > > > bring in a few cords of wood. I have a Vermont Castings stove > > > > that can be burned open or closed. We'd sometimes cook on top of > > > > it but other times I'd let the wood go down enough to open the > > > > doors and grill a steak over the coals. > > > > > > I'd love a good old Ben Franklin here! It could go in the back room > > > but needs a fair clearance and the room isnt that big. > > > > > > If we ever enclose the back porch fully though, that would be the > > > trick. It's 13ft x 44 ft. > > > > > > I get you on bringing in the wood, both to the yard and stacking and > > > then a daily task to bring it inside. > > > > Our former neighbours moved a couple hundred miles north of here and > > have about 140 acres of woodlot. Most of what they cleared for the > > house was softwood. Their house heating system involves an outdoor > > wood burning boiler. When we visited them a couple years ago I > > wondered about the quality of the wood and the work involved in > > feeding that boiler. > > > > Last Christmas Eve the wife down visiting friends and dropped by to > > say hello. When I asked her where Roy was she said he was home > > feeding the furnace....stupidest thing he ever did. > > > > Here is a video review of a similar system and a guy who is as > > thrilled with his heating system as the old neighbours are. > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0I1Mjvr_4E > > Why did he put it so far from where he needs the heat? Best I can tell > he's only heating a shed with all that. My Swedish step-mom had her house in Goteborg heated in the same way except that the boiler was probably a lot further than that chap's in the video. The city supplied heat to houses using a network of hot water pipes and a central boiler. I thought that was the nuttiest thing I ever heard. OTOH the Swedes, while a bit on the morose side, are a fairly practical people is it's probably not as crazy as it sounds. |
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On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 3:42:48 PM UTC-6, cshenk wrote:
> > wrote: > > > On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 1:46:34 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 11:35:03 -0800 (PST), > > > " > wrote: > > > > > > > https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM > > > > > > > > > Looks like you are ready for winter! > > > > > > Tiny house, though. > > > > > Yeah, if they burn all that wood they'll roast!! > > > > ;-) > > Naw, its 2 years worth. Not but 8 racks and a few smaller ones out of > view. > We were making a lame funny about the 'tiny' house when we're looking at the dog house. |
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> On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 3:42:48 PM UTC-6, cshenk wrote: > > > > wrote: > > > > > On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 1:46:34 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 11:35:03 -0800 (PST), > > > > " > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like you are ready for winter! > > > > > > > > Tiny house, though. > > > > > > > Yeah, if they burn all that wood they'll roast!! > > > > > > ;-) > > > > Naw, its 2 years worth. Not but 8 racks and a few smaller ones out > > of view. > > > We were making a lame funny about the 'tiny' house when we're looking > at the dog house. Snicker, law here is if you have a dog, you must have a dog house even if you never leave them outside. |
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On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 15:21:58 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote: >On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 3:42:48 PM UTC-6, cshenk wrote: >> >> wrote: >> >> > On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 1:46:34 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: >> > > >> > > On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 11:35:03 -0800 (PST), >> > > " > wrote: >> > > >> > > >> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM >> > > > > >> > > > Looks like you are ready for winter! >> > > >> > > Tiny house, though. >> > > >> > Yeah, if they burn all that wood they'll roast!! >> > >> > ;-) >> >> Naw, its 2 years worth. Not but 8 racks and a few smaller ones out of >> view. >> >We were making a lame funny about the 'tiny' house when we're looking at >the dog house. That's a big dog house! |
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On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 13:04:57 -0600, Terry Coombs >
wrote: >On 11/26/2018 12:49 PM, wrote: >> On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 11:16:29 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote: >> >>> Ed Pawlowski wrote: >>> >>>> On 11/26/2018 9:59 AM, cshenk wrote: >>>>> Working out how to share a photo. Nothing fancy here, just my >>>>> backyard and some of the wood pile >>>>> >>>>> >>> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM >>>> Good sized wood pile. I always liked heating with wood but I found >>>> as I got older it was easier to write a check for oil than bring in a >>>> few cords of wood. I have a Vermont Castings stove that can be >>>> burned open or closed. We'd sometimes cook on top of it but other >>>> times I'd let the wood go down enough to open the doors and grill a >>>> steak over the coals. >>> I'd love a good old Ben Franklin here! It could go in the back room >>> but needs a fair clearance and the room isnt that big. >>> >>> If we ever enclose the back porch fully though, that would be the >>> trick. It's 13ft x 44 ft. >>> >>> I get you on bringing in the wood, both to the yard and stacking and >>> then a daily task to bring it inside. >> Carrying and stacking are the easiest parts. >> You forgot cutting and splitting... and then the ashes. > * Chainsaws are wonderful tools ... I have 3 that run and 3 more for >parts . Only one gas powered log splitter though , but it's a pretty >good one . The hardest part for me is getting it out of the woods , our >land is not level and it's heavily wooded . That's where Rusty the >Tractorand his little trailercome in handy . The ashes go into my >compost heap for the garden . Yes, cutting them down and dragging the logs out of the woods is the most laborious part. I don't bother heating with wood anymore, I've found that propane works better, a lot less laborious, and in the end actually costs less... because maintaining chain saws and log splitters can get expensive, plus the fuel and oil. My time and energy is best used for other things. I stopped being obsessed with collecting fire wood some 15 years ago. And burning wood one may as well smoke tobacco, wood smoke is just as harmful to ones respirtory system, maybe worse. I have a water jacketed wood stove in the basement that heated the house and made hot water but I don't use it... propane is far more efficient, and in the end all things considered costs less. |
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> On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 13:04:57 -0600, Terry Coombs > > wrote: > >> On 11/26/2018 12:49 PM, wrote: >>> On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 11:16:29 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote: >>> >>>> Ed Pawlowski wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 11/26/2018 9:59 AM, cshenk wrote: >>>>>> Working out how to share a photo. Nothing fancy here, just my >>>>>> backyard and some of the wood pile >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM >>>>> Good sized wood pile. I always liked heating with wood but I found >>>>> as I got older it was easier to write a check for oil than bring in a >>>>> few cords of wood. I have a Vermont Castings stove that can be >>>>> burned open or closed. We'd sometimes cook on top of it but other >>>>> times I'd let the wood go down enough to open the doors and grill a >>>>> steak over the coals. >>>> I'd love a good old Ben Franklin here! It could go in the back room >>>> but needs a fair clearance and the room isnt that big. >>>> >>>> If we ever enclose the back porch fully though, that would be the >>>> trick. It's 13ft x 44 ft. >>>> >>>> I get you on bringing in the wood, both to the yard and stacking and >>>> then a daily task to bring it inside. >>> Carrying and stacking are the easiest parts. >>> You forgot cutting and splitting... and then the ashes. >> Chainsaws are wonderful tools ... I have 3 that run and 3 more for >> parts . Only one gas powered log splitter though , but it's a pretty >> good one . The hardest part for me is getting it out of the woods , our >> land is not level and it's heavily wooded . That's where Rusty the >> Tractorand his little trailercome in handy . The ashes go into my >> compost heap for the garden . > > Yes, cutting them down and dragging the logs out of the woods is the > most laborious part. I don't bother heating with wood anymore, I've > found that propane works better, a lot less laborious, and in the end > actually costs less... because maintaining chain saws and log > splitters can get expensive, plus the fuel and oil. My time and > energy is best used for other things. I stopped being obsessed with > collecting fire wood some 15 years ago. And burning wood one may as > well smoke tobacco, wood smoke is just as harmful to ones respirtory > system, maybe worse. I have a water jacketed wood stove in the > basement that heated the house and made hot water but I don't use > it... propane is far more efficient, and in the end all things > considered costs less. > Propane ... check. RO water filter ... check. Basement ... check. No black dishes ... check. I'm getting there ... Umm, Popeye, what brand of hemorrhoid ointment do yoose recommend? Preparation H any good? |
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On 11/26/2018 6:31 PM, wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 13:04:57 -0600, Terry Coombs > > wrote: > >> On 11/26/2018 12:49 PM, wrote: >>> On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 11:16:29 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote: >>> >>>> Ed Pawlowski wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 11/26/2018 9:59 AM, cshenk wrote: >>>>>> Working out how to share a photo. Nothing fancy here, just my >>>>>> backyard and some of the wood pile >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM >>>>> Good sized wood pile. I always liked heating with wood but I found >>>>> as I got older it was easier to write a check for oil than bring in a >>>>> few cords of wood. I have a Vermont Castings stove that can be >>>>> burned open or closed. We'd sometimes cook on top of it but other >>>>> times I'd let the wood go down enough to open the doors and grill a >>>>> steak over the coals. >>>> I'd love a good old Ben Franklin here! It could go in the back room >>>> but needs a fair clearance and the room isnt that big. >>>> >>>> If we ever enclose the back porch fully though, that would be the >>>> trick. It's 13ft x 44 ft. >>>> >>>> I get you on bringing in the wood, both to the yard and stacking and >>>> then a daily task to bring it inside. >>> Carrying and stacking are the easiest parts. >>> You forgot cutting and splitting... and then the ashes. >> Â* Chainsaws are wonderful tools ... I have 3 that run and 3 more for >> parts . Only one gas powered log splitter though , but it's a pretty >> good one . The hardest part for me is getting it out of the woods , our >> land is not level and it's heavily wooded . That's where Rusty the >> Tractorand his little trailercome in handy . The ashes go into my >> compost heap for the garden . > Yes, cutting them down and dragging the logs out of the woods is the > most laborious part. I don't bother heating with wood anymore, I've > found that propane works better, a lot less laborious, and in the end > actually costs less... because maintaining chain saws and log > splitters can get expensive, plus the fuel and oil. My time and > energy is best used for other things. I stopped being obsessed with > collecting fire wood some 15 years ago. And burning wood one may as > well smoke tobacco, wood smoke is just as harmful to ones respirtory > system, maybe worse. I have a water jacketed wood stove in the > basement that heated the house and made hot water but I don't use > it... propane is far more efficient, and in the end all things > considered costs less. Â* Total bullshit Sheldon , I ran the numbers . For the same BTU's I get from wood it would cost me over 150 bucks a month to heat with propane at 2 bucks per gallon . I heat for 4.5 months in an average winter . No way in hell do I spend nearly 700 buck a year on saw maintenance and supplies . Not even if you count maintaining Rusty the Tractor do I spend anywhere near that kind of money . If I BOUGHT my wood at $100/cord it'd still be cheaper than LPG (no natgas out here in the woods)assuming burning a cord a month average . -- Snag Yes , I'm old and crochety - and armed . Get outta my woods ! |
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On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 18:48:02 -0600, Hank Rogers >
wrote: wrote: >> On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 13:04:57 -0600, Terry Coombs > >> wrote: >> >>> On 11/26/2018 12:49 PM, wrote: >>>> On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 11:16:29 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote: >>>> >>>>> Ed Pawlowski wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 11/26/2018 9:59 AM, cshenk wrote: >>>>>>> Working out how to share a photo. Nothing fancy here, just my >>>>>>> backyard and some of the wood pile >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM >>>>>> Good sized wood pile. I always liked heating with wood but I found >>>>>> as I got older it was easier to write a check for oil than bring in a >>>>>> few cords of wood. I have a Vermont Castings stove that can be >>>>>> burned open or closed. We'd sometimes cook on top of it but other >>>>>> times I'd let the wood go down enough to open the doors and grill a >>>>>> steak over the coals. >>>>> I'd love a good old Ben Franklin here! It could go in the back room >>>>> but needs a fair clearance and the room isnt that big. >>>>> >>>>> If we ever enclose the back porch fully though, that would be the >>>>> trick. It's 13ft x 44 ft. >>>>> >>>>> I get you on bringing in the wood, both to the yard and stacking and >>>>> then a daily task to bring it inside. >>>> Carrying and stacking are the easiest parts. >>>> You forgot cutting and splitting... and then the ashes. >>> Chainsaws are wonderful tools ... I have 3 that run and 3 more for >>> parts . Only one gas powered log splitter though , but it's a pretty >>> good one . The hardest part for me is getting it out of the woods , our >>> land is not level and it's heavily wooded . That's where Rusty the >>> Tractorand his little trailercome in handy . The ashes go into my >>> compost heap for the garden . >> >> Yes, cutting them down and dragging the logs out of the woods is the >> most laborious part. I don't bother heating with wood anymore, I've >> found that propane works better, a lot less laborious, and in the end >> actually costs less... because maintaining chain saws and log >> splitters can get expensive, plus the fuel and oil. My time and >> energy is best used for other things. I stopped being obsessed with >> collecting fire wood some 15 years ago. And burning wood one may as >> well smoke tobacco, wood smoke is just as harmful to ones respirtory >> system, maybe worse. I have a water jacketed wood stove in the >> basement that heated the house and made hot water but I don't use >> it... propane is far more efficient, and in the end all things >> considered costs less. > >Propane ... check. >RO water filter ... check. >Basement ... check. >No black dishes ... check. > >I'm getting there ... Umm, Popeye, what brand of hemorrhoid ointment do >yoose recommend? Preparation H any good? Rx Hydrocortisone 2.5% Apply twice daily to your faggot lips. |
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> On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 18:16:21 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx > > wrote: > >> cshenk > wrote: >>> Working out how to share a photo. Nothing fancy here, just my backyard >>> and some of the wood pile >>> >>> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM >>> >> >> Nice wood stockpile! We just had the chimney sweep out on Saturday morning >> to inspect the condition of the fireplace in the new house before we >> started using it. We had our first big thanksgiving family and friends >> gathering in the new house later that afternoon, and it was so nice to have >> a beautiful fire going in the living room. It really added to the cozy log >> cabin vibe. I’m fast tracking some campfire cast iron pie makers and >> whatnot onto my wishlist because I think that would be a fun thing for my >> daughter to do, especially if she has friends over this winter. >> >> The old owners had a small stockpile of wood left behind for us, but we >> definitely need a lot more to get through the winter. It hasn’t really >> snowed much yet here, so we did go around and collect a bit of the smaller >> stuff on Sunday. There are a few fallen trees (mostly oak and maple) in >> the woods to gather, but we need to acquire a chainsaw for those. There’s >> an old shed up the driveway a ways, and it’ll be a great wood shed. Or >> chicken coop—time will tell. LOL > > I've never met anyone who heats with wood who doesn't own at least one > chain saw. > > Fortunately for me, we have other heat sources. The last thing I want is to be chained to a wood stove for 6 months out of the year. Its a nice supplement, however. |
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> On 2018-11-26 3:16 PM, Jinx the Minx wrote: >> Terry Coombs > wrote: > > >>> Â* Don't skimp on a good chainsaw ! Stihl and Husq-Varna both make good >>> ones . I looked closely at the label on my consumer-grade Poulan , and >>> guess what I found ? That saw is only designed to last FIFTY HOURS ! >>> That's run-time , but geez , that's ridiculous ! I put way more hours >>> than that on each of mine every year . I'm surprised that one has lasted >>> as long as it has , probably because I maintain them well and never ever >>> run a chain dull or dry . BTW , maple is lousy firewood , but usable if >>> that's all ya got . My preference is oak , white or red , with hickory >>> close behind . >>> >> >> Thanks for the excellent advice! My dad has a good Stihl one, and now that >> hes older and his chainsaw days are mostly behind him, I was going to ask >> if we could buy/borrow his for the time being. The oak abounds out there, >> and is the majority of the tree cover, at least closest to the house. I >> couldnt tell you though what kind of oak, however. Thats something to >> google-learn another day. Theres enough acorn droppings out there to sell >> by the wagonload (or feed deer by the herdful). Maybe next year. Plenty of >> sugar maples, too. Ive marked the best ones for tapping in the spring. >> Much to my dismay, no black walnuts trees there. > > > Don't be surprised if he is reluctant to share a good chainsaw. It is a > tool that a lot of people don't like to share. They are too easily > broken by non-owners who might for get to use chain oil, use the wrong > gas-oil ratio, cut into nails or into the dirt. They will be dulling the > chain and likely not sharpening it properly. > > > > Youre quite right, but my dad isnt in the best of health and really has no logistical need for a chainsaw anymore. They no longer live out in the country, and they snowbird in Nevada for several months, usually. This year they are staying put for medical treatment. |
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"cshenk" wrote in message ... Snicker, law here is if you have a dog, you must have a dog house even if you never leave them outside. == I have never heard of that!! What a waste! |
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On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 08:44:21 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote: > > >"cshenk" wrote in message ... > >Snicker, law here is if you have a dog, you must have a dog house even >if you never leave them outside. > >== > >I have never heard of that!! What a waste! Politicians, you know. |
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"Bruce" wrote in message ... On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 08:44:21 -0000, "Ophelia" > wrote: > > >"cshenk" wrote in message ... > >Snicker, law here is if you have a dog, you must have a dog house even >if you never leave them outside. > >== > >I have never heard of that!! What a waste! Politicians, you know. == Usually:( |
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On 2018-11-27 12:02 AM, Jinx the Minx wrote:
> > wrote: >> On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 18:16:21 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx >> I've never met anyone who heats with wood who doesn't own at least one >> chain saw. >> >> > > Fortunately for me, we have other heat sources. The last thing I want is > to be chained to a wood stove for 6 months out of the year. Its a nice > supplement, however. My former neighbour is pretty much under house arrest with his wood fired boiler. He can put enough wood in the evening to keep the place warm all night, but he has to be there in the morning to add more. They cannot go away overnight and leave it. The wife is not very happy about that. They used to do a lot of travel together. |
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On 11/27/2018 10:15 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-11-27 12:02 AM, Jinx the Minx wrote: >> > wrote: >>> On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 18:16:21 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx > >>> I've never met anyone who heats with wood who doesn't own at least one >>> chain saw. >>> >>> >> >> Fortunately for me, we have other heat sources.Â* The last thing I want is >> to be chained to a wood stove for 6 months out of the year.Â* Its a nice >> supplement, however. > > My former neighbour is pretty much under house arrest with his wood > fired boiler.Â* He can put enough wood in the evening to keep the place > warm all night, but he has to be there in the morning to add more.Â* They > cannot go away overnight and leave it.Â* The wife is not very happy about > that.Â* They used to do a lot of travel together. > > > > Yeah, but he saved $50 on heating last year. From my experience in my area, if you have to buy wood the saving is minimal. "Free" wood takes a lot of labor. It keeps the room with the stove very warm and cozy. It does satisfy the primal urges to make fire, cook with it and all that stuff, but it is crazy to make it the single source. It makes you a slave. A few days a year I'd want to crank up the stove, make a stew or pot roast, but it is much less labor to adjust the thermostat. |
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On 11/26/2018 9:59 AM, cshenk wrote:
> Working out how to share a photo. Nothing fancy here, just my backyard > and some of the wood pile > > https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM > Nice pic. There are so many free photo sharing sites, I'm not sure why you chose Amazon. Whatever! :) Jill |
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On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 8:59:57 AM UTC-6, cshenk wrote:
> Working out how to share a photo. Nothing fancy here, just my backyard > and some of the wood pile > > https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...EcXJfBAiPMs5HM Some years here it is never cool enough for a fire. This year however, we have had more than a few all ready, we bought a nice truckload of seasoned oak and it is cut and stacked and right now a nice fire is blazing away. Rosie |
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