On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 20:09:38 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Brice" > wrote in message
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>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 00:08:29 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>What do you do with it? I've make kale chips, put it in soup, it can be
>>>used
>>>in smoothies and salads but... What else?
>>>
>>>Thanks!
>>
>> Boerenkool:
>> <https://www.holland.com/global/tourism/information/traditional-dutch-food/recipe-boerenkool-kale.htm>
>
>Saved! Thanks!

That recipe is not necessarily Dutch, the same dish is prepared by
many nationalities as kale is common worldwide, even grows above the
artic circle (in cold climes it's used as a sdecorative shrub.
The Dutch and Belgians season mashed spuds with a wee bit of nutmeg.
Kale is very easy to grow and the best is from harvesting the young
leaves.... I grow kale, about 10-12 heads, and keep picking the outer
leaves throughout the growing season before the become too large and
tough, which is way into fall. Cut out the central stems and dice for
soups... same as with collards.
Ornimental kale:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-PTcDTpaDY

On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 13:04:18 -0400, wrote:

>On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 20:09:38 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Brice" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 00:08:29 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>What do you do with it? I've make kale chips, put it in soup, it can be
>>>>used
>>>>in smoothies and salads but... What else?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks!
>>>
>>> Boerenkool:
>>> <https://www.holland.com/global/tourism/information/traditional-dutch-food/recipe-boerenkool-kale.htm>
>>
>>Saved! Thanks!
>
>That recipe is not necessarily Dutch, the same dish is prepared by
>many nationalities as kale is common worldwide

Food doesn't stop at the border. Sauerkraut is very Dutch. French
fries are very Belgian.

On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 11:31:20 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Silvar Beitel" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 3:08:52 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
> >> What do you do with it? I've make kale chips, put it in soup, it can be
> >> used
> >> in smoothies and salads but... What else?
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >
> > Use it like you would use cabbage leaves, i.e. as a wrapper for a
> > filling. Steam/roast until tender. Large kale leaves make a good
> > (and edible!) substitute for banana leaves or corn husks (or parchment
> > paper, or aluminum foil, or ... )
> >
> > I also use large horseradish leaves this way, if the wrapped food
> > is compatible with the mild horseradishy pungency of the leaves.)
>
> Well since I don't use cabbage leaves for anything other than soup or salad,
> I have no clue what the filling might be.

Brownie mix and squid
Crushed bowling balls
Dried dog turds

You know, the usual things one wraps in cabbage leaves.


I've been Julie'd. Where do I get my membership card?

--
Silvar Beitel

On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 5:44:04 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>
> I am pleased you enjoy it. It's not something I've ever seen

Cooking taro leaves with coconut milk is something the Hawaiians learned from the Tongans, Samoans, and the Pacific islands West of Hawaii. It's hard to find taro leaves on the mainland but kale is a pretty good substitute. Kale has the advantage that it's not going to irritate your throat if you don't cook it enough.

On 9/28/2018 10:38 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 9/28/2018 3:08 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> What do you do with it? I've make kale chips, put it in soup, it can
>> be used in smoothies and salads but... What else?
>>
>> Thanks!
>
> I find it best left on the supermarket shelf.

LOL Same here, Ed.

Jill

"Brice" wrote in message ...

On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 15:45:32 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"Brice" wrote in message
.. .
>
>On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 20:13:15 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Brice" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 17:09:06 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>
>>>>I saw a package along with the salad stuff Kaleslaw. I cannot imagine
>>>>it. Not sure if it was all kale or a blend, I'm not interested.
>>>
>>> To each their own, Ed.
>>
>>Come to my house for dinner. We'll have kale!
>
>Thank you I think it's a nice vegetable if used right.
>
>==
>
>I only cook it one way. I pick the baby leaves and steam it minimally.
>That is how he likes it

I've never had the black type. I tried to grow it once, but it didn't
work. Wrong weather or I did something wrong.

==

I don't know what you could be doing wrong I don't have any problems and
I don't do anything special. Could it be too hot there?

wrote in message news
On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 20:09:38 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Brice" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 00:08:29 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>What do you do with it? I've make kale chips, put it in soup, it can be
>>>used
>>>in smoothies and salads but... What else?
>>>
>>>Thanks!
>>
>> Boerenkool:
>> <https://www.holland.com/global/tourism/information/traditional-dutch-food/recipe-boerenkool-kale.htm>
>
>Saved! Thanks!

That recipe is not necessarily Dutch, the same dish is prepared by
many nationalities as kale is common worldwide, even grows above the
artic circle (in cold climes it's used as a sdecorative shrub.
The Dutch and Belgians season mashed spuds with a wee bit of nutmeg.
Kale is very easy to grow and the best is from harvesting the young
leaves.... I grow kale, about 10-12 heads, and keep picking the outer
leaves throughout the growing season before the become too large and
tough, which is way into fall. Cut out the central stems and dice for
soups... same as with collards.
Ornimental kale:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-PTcDTpaDY

===

Very pretty!!! This is the stuff I grow:

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ca... z_gvyxx_3msM:

"dsi1" wrote in message
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On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 5:44:04 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>
> I am pleased you enjoy it. It's not something I've ever seen

Cooking taro leaves with coconut milk is something the Hawaiians learned
from the Tongans, Samoans, and the Pacific islands West of Hawaii. It's hard
to find taro leaves on the mainland but kale is a pretty good substitute.
Kale has the advantage that it's not going to irritate your throat if you
don't cook it enough.

==

I don't like the idea that something could irritate my throat if I don't
cook it enough. Yes, I heard what he was saying in that vid.

I need to be very careful because I have some allergies.

On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 19:17:16 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"Brice" wrote in message ...
>
>On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 15:45:32 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>wrote:
>
>>"Brice" wrote in message
. ..
>>
>>On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 20:13:15 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Brice" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 17:09:06 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I saw a package along with the salad stuff Kaleslaw. I cannot imagine
>>>>>it. Not sure if it was all kale or a blend, I'm not interested.
>>>>
>>>> To each their own, Ed.
>>>
>>>Come to my house for dinner. We'll have kale!
>>
>>Thank you I think it's a nice vegetable if used right.
>>
>>==
>>
>>I only cook it one way. I pick the baby leaves and steam it minimally.
>>That is how he likes it
>
>I've never had the black type. I tried to grow it once, but it didn't
>work. Wrong weather or I did something wrong.
>
>==
>
>I don't know what you could be doing wrong I don't have any problems and
>I don't do anything special. Could it be too hot there?

That was still in Tasmania, where the weather's quite English/Dutch.
Maybe it was too wet or the seed was old.

On 9/28/2018 2:34 PM, Gary wrote:
> graham wrote:
>>
>> On 2018-09-28 8:38 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 9/28/2018 3:08 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> What do you do with it? I've make kale chips, put it in soup, it can
>>>> be used in smoothies and salads but... What else?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> I find it best left on the supermarket shelf.
>>
>> Or fed to cattle!
>
> IMO, kale is such a worthless leafy vegetable. No need to buy
> that these days.
>
Kale is much touted as a "superfood". Right now kale is trendy. That
also means it costs more than it should. There are plenty of other
green leafy vegetables that offer excellent nutritional value and (to
me) taste much better.

Jill

On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 19:33:00 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"dsi1" wrote in message
...
>
>On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 5:44:04 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> I am pleased you enjoy it. It's not something I've ever seen
>
>Cooking taro leaves with coconut milk is something the Hawaiians learned
>from the Tongans, Samoans, and the Pacific islands West of Hawaii. It's hard
>to find taro leaves on the mainland but kale is a pretty good substitute.
>Kale has the advantage that it's not going to irritate your throat if you
>don't cook it enough.
>
>==
>
>I don't like the idea that something could irritate my throat if I don't
>cook it enough. Yes, I heard what he was saying in that vid.
>
>I need to be very careful because I have some allergies.

I made that dish once with dried taro leaves. I must have cooked it
long enough.

On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 14:34:28 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 9/28/2018 2:34 PM, Gary wrote:
>> graham wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2018-09-28 8:38 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> On 9/28/2018 3:08 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>> What do you do with it? I've make kale chips, put it in soup, it can
>>>>> be used in smoothies and salads but... What else?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> I find it best left on the supermarket shelf.
>>>
>>> Or fed to cattle!
>>
>> IMO, kale is such a worthless leafy vegetable. No need to buy
>> that these days.
>>
>Kale is much touted as a "superfood". Right now kale is trendy. That
>also means it costs more than it should.

Crazy. It's originally a very humble, cheap vegetable.

On 9/28/2018 11:10 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 9/28/2018 3:08 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> What do you do with it? I've make kale chips, put it in soup, it can
>>> be used in smoothies and salads but... What else?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>
>> I find it best left on the supermarket shelf.
>
> Well, seeing as how we here have vitamin deficiencies for various
> reasons, we are gonna eat it while it's in season.

Are you now saying your gardener ("we here") has the same vitamin
deficiencies as you? You seem to cook a lot of brown rice. I hope you
realize even *brown* rice doesn't have a lot of nutritional value.

Jill

On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 14:34:28 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 9/28/2018 2:34 PM, Gary wrote:
>> graham wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2018-09-28 8:38 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> On 9/28/2018 3:08 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>> What do you do with it? I've make kale chips, put it in soup, it can
>>>>> be used in smoothies and salads but... What else?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> I find it best left on the supermarket shelf.
>>>
>>> Or fed to cattle!
>>
>> IMO, kale is such a worthless leafy vegetable. No need to buy
>> that these days.
>>
>Kale is much touted as a "superfood". Right now kale is trendy. That
>also means it costs more than it should. There are plenty of other
>green leafy vegetables that offer excellent nutritional value and (to
>me) taste much better.
>
>Jill

kale is another food that I knew I was going to love. Not so. I
tried it many years ago when I first started gardening and I have
tried it several times during the last couple of years. Kale and me
are just not meant to be.

"Brice" wrote in message ...

On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 19:33:00 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"dsi1" wrote in message
...
>
>On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 5:44:04 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> I am pleased you enjoy it. It's not something I've ever seen
>
>Cooking taro leaves with coconut milk is something the Hawaiians learned
>from the Tongans, Samoans, and the Pacific islands West of Hawaii. It's
>hard
>to find taro leaves on the mainland but kale is a pretty good substitute.
>Kale has the advantage that it's not going to irritate your throat if you
>don't cook it enough.
>
>==
>
>I don't like the idea that something could irritate my throat if I don't
>cook it enough. Yes, I heard what he was saying in that vid.
>
>I need to be very careful because I have some allergies.

I made that dish once with dried taro leaves. I must have cooked it
long enough.

==

Clever clogs ;p

"Brice" wrote in message ...

On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 19:17:16 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"Brice" wrote in message
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>
>On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 15:45:32 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>wrote:
>
>>"Brice" wrote in message
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>>
>>On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 20:13:15 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Brice" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 17:09:06 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I saw a package along with the salad stuff Kaleslaw. I cannot imagine
>>>>>it. Not sure if it was all kale or a blend, I'm not interested.
>>>>
>>>> To each their own, Ed.
>>>
>>>Come to my house for dinner. We'll have kale!
>>
>>Thank you I think it's a nice vegetable if used right.
>>
>>==
>>
>>I only cook it one way. I pick the baby leaves and steam it minimally.
>>That is how he likes it
>
>I've never had the black type. I tried to grow it once, but it didn't
>work. Wrong weather or I did something wrong.
>
>==
>
>I don't know what you could be doing wrong I don't have any problems and
>I don't do anything special. Could it be too hot there?

That was still in Tasmania, where the weather's quite English/Dutch.
Maybe it was too wet or the seed was old.

==

Aye, maybe it was the seed. Will you give it another try?

On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 19:53:27 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"Brice" wrote in message ...
>
>On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 19:17:16 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Brice" wrote in message
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>>
>>On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 15:45:32 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>"Brice" wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 20:13:15 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Brice" > wrote in message
m...
>>>>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 17:09:06 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I saw a package along with the salad stuff Kaleslaw. I cannot imagine
>>>>>>it. Not sure if it was all kale or a blend, I'm not interested.
>>>>>
>>>>> To each their own, Ed.
>>>>
>>>>Come to my house for dinner. We'll have kale!
>>>
>>>Thank you I think it's a nice vegetable if used right.
>>>
>>>==
>>>
>>>I only cook it one way. I pick the baby leaves and steam it minimally.
>>>That is how he likes it
>>
>>I've never had the black type. I tried to grow it once, but it didn't
>>work. Wrong weather or I did something wrong.
>>
>>==
>>
>>I don't know what you could be doing wrong I don't have any problems and
>>I don't do anything special. Could it be too hot there?
>
>That was still in Tasmania, where the weather's quite English/Dutch.
>Maybe it was too wet or the seed was old.
>
>==
>
>Aye, maybe it was the seed. Will you give it another try?

Maybe in the future. Our vegetable garden is in the "Land for
Wildlife" category at the moment.

On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 8:33:22 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>
> I don't like the idea that something could irritate my throat if I don't
> cook it enough. Yes, I heard what he was saying in that vid.
>
> I need to be very careful because I have some allergies.

It's quite an unpleasant feeling. OTOH, I'd much rather cook taro than breadfruit any day. Breadfruit exudes a milky white latex sap that gets all over the place. Your cutting board and pan gets gummy with the stuff and it's tough to get out.

On 9/29/2018 12:26 PM, wrote:
> On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 10:28:43 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 2:08:52 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What do you do with it? I've make kale chips, put it in soup, it can be
>>>> used
>>>> in smoothies and salads but... What else?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>> I know before I even finish this post you will reject it.
>>
>> Like I said... I know it can be used in a salad.
>>
> I know before I even finish this post you will reject it.
>
Thing is, there is more than one kind of salad. Different combinations
of greens and dressings which are different. Even though I don't like
raw green salads, I know this.

Jill

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 8:33:22 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>
> I don't like the idea that something could irritate my throat if I don't
> cook it enough. Yes, I heard what he was saying in that vid.
>
> I need to be very careful because I have some allergies.

It's quite an unpleasant feeling. OTOH, I'd much rather cook taro than
breadfruit any day. Breadfruit exudes a milky white latex sap that gets all
over the place. Your cutting board and pan gets gummy with the stuff and
it's tough to get out.

==

eww

"Brice" wrote in message ...

On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 19:53:27 +0100, "Ophelia" >
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>
>
>"Brice" wrote in message
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>
>On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 19:17:16 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Brice" wrote in message
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>>
>>On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 15:45:32 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>"Brice" wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 20:13:15 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Brice" > wrote in message
m...
>>>>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 17:09:06 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I saw a package along with the salad stuff Kaleslaw. I cannot imagine
>>>>>>it. Not sure if it was all kale or a blend, I'm not interested.
>>>>>
>>>>> To each their own, Ed.
>>>>
>>>>Come to my house for dinner. We'll have kale!
>>>
>>>Thank you I think it's a nice vegetable if used right.
>>>
>>>==
>>>
>>>I only cook it one way. I pick the baby leaves and steam it minimally.
>>>That is how he likes it
>>
>>I've never had the black type. I tried to grow it once, but it didn't
>>work. Wrong weather or I did something wrong.
>>
>>==
>>
>>I don't know what you could be doing wrong I don't have any problems
>>and
>>I don't do anything special. Could it be too hot there?
>
>That was still in Tasmania, where the weather's quite English/Dutch.
>Maybe it was too wet or the seed was old.
>
>==
>
>Aye, maybe it was the seed. Will you give it another try?

Maybe in the future. Our vegetable garden is in the "Land for
Wildlife" category at the moment.

==

lol you could just start in one corner?

On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 21:10:26 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"Brice" wrote in message ...
>
>On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 19:53:27 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Brice" wrote in message
. ..
>>
>>On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 19:17:16 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Brice" wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 15:45:32 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>I only cook it one way. I pick the baby leaves and steam it minimally.
>>>>That is how he likes it
>>>
>>>I've never had the black type. I tried to grow it once, but it didn't
>>>work. Wrong weather or I did something wrong.
>>>
>>>==
>>>
>>>I don't know what you could be doing wrong I don't have any problems
>>>and I don't do anything special. Could it be too hot there?
>>
>>That was still in Tasmania, where the weather's quite English/Dutch.
>>Maybe it was too wet or the seed was old.
>>
>>==
>>
>>Aye, maybe it was the seed. Will you give it another try?
>
>Maybe in the future. Our vegetable garden is in the "Land for
>Wildlife" category at the moment.
>
>==
>
>lol you could just start in one corner?

Yes, that's an idea, but we might concrete it all over and have raised
beds put in.

On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 10:10:50 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>
> eww

You're probably going to need a second set of cooking equipment if you cook breadfruit on a regular basis. It's kind of a horrible experience.

"Brice" wrote in message ...

On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 21:10:26 +0100, "Ophelia" >
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>
>
>"Brice" wrote in message
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>
>On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 19:53:27 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Brice" wrote in message
. ..
>>
>>On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 19:17:16 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Brice" wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 15:45:32 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>I only cook it one way. I pick the baby leaves and steam it minimally.
>>>>That is how he likes it
>>>
>>>I've never had the black type. I tried to grow it once, but it didn't
>>>work. Wrong weather or I did something wrong.
>>>
>>>==
>>>
>>>I don't know what you could be doing wrong I don't have any problems
>>>and I don't do anything special. Could it be too hot there?
>>
>>That was still in Tasmania, where the weather's quite English/Dutch.
>>Maybe it was too wet or the seed was old.
>>
>>==
>>
>>Aye, maybe it was the seed. Will you give it another try?
>
>Maybe in the future. Our vegetable garden is in the "Land for
>Wildlife" category at the moment.
>
>==
>
>lol you could just start in one corner?

Yes, that's an idea, but we might concrete it all over and have raised
beds put in.

==

In our house in the Central Belt, I had it all cobbled and put grow beds in.
We have a big garden in our other house up north, but we don't get up there
much so I don't grow anything in it. The kale grows great in the growbeds.

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 10:10:50 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>
> eww

You're probably going to need a second set of cooking equipment if you cook
breadfruit on a regular basis. It's kind of a horrible experience.
==

I somehow think I won't bother ...

On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 10:30:46 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"Brice" wrote in message ...
>
>On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 21:10:26 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>wrote:
>
>>lol you could just start in one corner?
>
>Yes, that's an idea, but we might concrete it all over and have raised
>beds put in.
>
>==
>
>In our house in the Central Belt, I had it all cobbled and put grow beds in.
>We have a big garden in our other house up north, but we don't get up there
>much so I don't grow anything in it. The kale grows great in the growbeds.

Is a grow bed a raised bed?

Gary, that seal made me wonder when seals learned to use tools(the octopus? I guess
it is possible, since otters know how to use their tummies and rocks or shells to break open
Shellfish.

N.

"Brice" wrote in message ...

On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 10:30:46 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"Brice" wrote in message
.. .
>
>On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 21:10:26 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>wrote:
>
>>lol you could just start in one corner?
>
>Yes, that's an idea, but we might concrete it all over and have raised
>beds put in.
>
>==
>
>In our house in the Central Belt, I had it all cobbled and put grow beds
>in.
>We have a big garden in our other house up north, but we don't get up there
>much so I don't grow anything in it. The kale grows great in the growbeds.

Is a grow bed a raised bed?

==

No, it is like a rectangular box or bag to grow things in

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Gr...hrome&ie=UTF-8

I guess you could raise them if you wanted to.

On 2018-09-30 8:30 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
> Gary, that seal made me wonder when seals learned to use tools(the
> octopus? I guess it is possible, since otters know how to use their
> tummies and rocks or shells to break open Shellfish.
>

It looked more like a sea lion than a seal, and they have been known to
throw their pray against rocks to stun them.

Crows have learned to put nuts on roads so cars will run over and break
them open.

On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 14:14:39 +0100, "Ophelia" >
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>
>"Brice" wrote in message ...
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>On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 10:30:46 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>wrote:
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>>"Brice" wrote in message
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>>On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 21:10:26 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>wrote:
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>>>lol you could just start in one corner?
>>
>>Yes, that's an idea, but we might concrete it all over and have raised
>>beds put in.
>>
>>==
>>
>>In our house in the Central Belt, I had it all cobbled and put grow beds
>>in.
>>We have a big garden in our other house up north, but we don't get up there
>>much so I don't grow anything in it. The kale grows great in the growbeds.
>
>Is a grow bed a raised bed?
>
>==
>
>No, it is like a rectangular box or bag to grow things in
>
>https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Gr...hrome&ie=UTF-8
>
>I guess you could raise them if you wanted to.

Handy. That could be a way to work around the nutgrass infestation
that we have in the veggie patch.

On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 09:58:18 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2018-09-30 8:30 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
>> Gary, that seal made me wonder when seals learned to use tools(the
>> octopus? I guess it is possible, since otters know how to use their
>> tummies and rocks or shells to break open Shellfish.
>>
>
>It looked more like a sea lion than a seal, and they have been known to
>throw their pray against rocks to stun them.
>
>Crows have learned to put nuts on roads so cars will run over and break
>them open.

And cows fetch balls:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k25zdGwmZT8>

"Brice" wrote in message ...

On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 14:14:39 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

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>
>"Brice" wrote in message
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>On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 10:30:46 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>wrote:
>
>>"Brice" wrote in message
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>>On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 21:10:26 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>lol you could just start in one corner?
>>
>>Yes, that's an idea, but we might concrete it all over and have raised
>>beds put in.
>>
>>==
>>
>>In our house in the Central Belt, I had it all cobbled and put grow beds
>>in.
>>We have a big garden in our other house up north, but we don't get up
>>there
>>much so I don't grow anything in it. The kale grows great in the
>>growbeds.
>
>Is a grow bed a raised bed?
>
>==
>
>No, it is like a rectangular box or bag to grow things in
>
>https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Gr...hrome&ie=UTF-8
>
>I guess you could raise them if you wanted to.

Handy. That could be a way to work around the nutgrass infestation
that we have in the veggie patch.
==


We laid cobbles/stones down to cover the ground, so no problems with that.
The growbags are very handy. I use two to grow kale and others things like
beans, peas, etc. Oh and I make sure to feed them regularly. They grow
really well.

On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 21:58:03 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

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>"Brice" wrote in message ...
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>On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 14:14:39 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Brice" wrote in message
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>>On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 10:30:46 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>"Brice" wrote in message
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>>>
>>>On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 21:10:26 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>lol you could just start in one corner?
>>>
>>>Yes, that's an idea, but we might concrete it all over and have raised
>>>beds put in.
>>>
>>>==
>>>
>>>In our house in the Central Belt, I had it all cobbled and put grow beds
>>>in.
>>>We have a big garden in our other house up north, but we don't get up
>>>there
>>>much so I don't grow anything in it. The kale grows great in the
>>>growbeds.
>>
>>Is a grow bed a raised bed?
>>
>>==
>>
>>No, it is like a rectangular box or bag to grow things in
>>
>>https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Gr...hrome&ie=UTF-8
>>
>>I guess you could raise them if you wanted to.
>
>Handy. That could be a way to work around the nutgrass infestation
>that we have in the veggie patch.
>==
>
>
>We laid cobbles/stones down to cover the ground, so no problems with that.
>The growbags are very handy. I use two to grow kale and others things like
>beans, peas, etc. Oh and I make sure to feed them regularly. They grow
>really well.

Thanks, I'll have a look around.

On Sunday, September 30, 2018 at 2:21:56 PM UTC-5, Brice wrote:
>
> And cows fetch balls:
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k25zdGwmZT8>
>
Cute!

On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 itsjoannotjoann wrote:
>Brice wrote:
>>
>> And cows fetch balls:
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k25zdGwmZT8>
>>
>Cute!

Those don't look like cows to me, where are their udders?

On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 18:01:24 -0400, wrote:

>On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 itsjoannotjoann wrote:
>>Brice wrote:
>>>
>>> And cows fetch balls:
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k25zdGwmZT8>
>>>
>>Cute!
>
>Those don't look like cows to me, where are their udders?

It's probably a young one.

On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 08:11:51 +1000, Brice >
wrote:

>On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 18:01:24 -0400, wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 itsjoannotjoann wrote:
>>>Brice wrote:
>>>>
>>>> And cows fetch balls:
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k25zdGwmZT8>
>>>>
>>>Cute!
>>
>>Those don't look like cows to me, where are their udders?
>
>It's probably a young one.

Okay... I'll wait.

On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 18:27:59 -0400, wrote:

>On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 08:11:51 +1000, Brice >
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 18:01:24 -0400, wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 itsjoannotjoann wrote:
>>>>Brice wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> And cows fetch balls:
>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k25zdGwmZT8>
>>>>>
>>>>Cute!
>>>
>>>Those don't look like cows to me, where are their udders?
>>
>>It's probably a young one.
>
>Okay... I'll wait.

lol

On Sunday, September 30, 2018 at 5:11:56 PM UTC-5, Brice wrote:
>
> On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 18:01:24 -0400, wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 itsjoannotjoann wrote:
>
> >>Brice wrote:
> >>>
> >>> And cows fetch balls:
> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k25zdGwmZT8>
> >>>
> >>Cute!
> >
> >Those don't look like cows to me, where are their udders?
>
> It's probably a young one.
>
I noticed she had no udder so I'm assuming she was heifer. (Not to
be confused with some American women.)

On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 16:47:56 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Sunday, September 30, 2018 at 5:11:56 PM UTC-5, Brice wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 18:01:24 -0400, wrote:
>>
>> >On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 itsjoannotjoann wrote:
>>
>> >>Brice wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> And cows fetch balls:
>> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k25zdGwmZT8>
>> >>>
>> >>Cute!
>> >
>> >Those don't look like cows to me, where are their udders?
>>
>> It's probably a young one.
>>
>I noticed she had no udder so I'm assuming she was heifer. (Not to
>be confused with some American women.)

Yes, a heifer, I think.