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Salted vs. unsalted butter ( YUM! I made another batch of mushrooms and spinach and YUM!!)
"Brice" > wrote in message
... > On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 20:10:13 -0700, "Cheri" > > wrote: > >>"Brice" > wrote in message . .. >>> On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 15:53:39 -0700, "Cheri" > >>> wrote: >>> >>>>"jmcquown" > wrote in message ... >>>>> On 9/30/2018 5:05 PM, Ophelia wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Cheri" wrote in message ... >>>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message >>>>>> ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mine are similar to yours but you can't see where the lenses change. >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> have varifocals. They do the same job:) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> You can't see where the lenses change with transition lenses either. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheri >>>>>> == >>>>>> >>>>>> Ahh I thought transition ones meant they darkened in the sun LOL >>>>>> sorry:)) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Mine darken in the sun. That's what I meant by "transitions". They >>>>> are >>>>> perfectly clear indoors. :) >>>>> >>>>> Jill >>>> >>>> >>>>Yes, mine too. Transitions darken and lighten, progressive lenses for >>>>near >>>>and distance, no lines with any of them. >>> >>> I have reading glasses. For anything further away, I look over them. I >>> hope that makes me look intelligent. I like to fool people. >> >> >>If you really want to look intelligent you have to carry around a clip >>board >>and a pencil. :) > > I'll do that. And wear purple pants :) And make sure your hair is sticking up in at least one place. :) Cheri |
Salted vs. unsalted butter ( YUM! I made another batch of mushrooms and spinach and YUM!!)
On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 22:16:03 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote: >"Brice" > wrote in message .. . >> On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 20:10:13 -0700, "Cheri" > >> wrote: >> >>>"Brice" > wrote in message ... >>>> On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 15:53:39 -0700, "Cheri" > >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>"jmcquown" > wrote in message ... >>>>>> On 9/30/2018 5:05 PM, Ophelia wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Cheri" wrote in message ... >>>>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message >>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mine are similar to yours but you can't see where the lenses change. >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> have varifocals. They do the same job:) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can't see where the lenses change with transition lenses either. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheri >>>>>>> == >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ahh I thought transition ones meant they darkened in the sun LOL >>>>>>> sorry:)) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Mine darken in the sun. That's what I meant by "transitions". They >>>>>> are >>>>>> perfectly clear indoors. :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Jill >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Yes, mine too. Transitions darken and lighten, progressive lenses for >>>>>near >>>>>and distance, no lines with any of them. >>>> >>>> I have reading glasses. For anything further away, I look over them. I >>>> hope that makes me look intelligent. I like to fool people. >>> >>> >>>If you really want to look intelligent you have to carry around a clip >>>board >>>and a pencil. :) >> >> I'll do that. And wear purple pants :) > > >And make sure your hair is sticking up in at least one place. :) lol, ok |
Salted vs. unsalted butter ( YUM! I made another batch of mushrooms and spinach and YUM!!)
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YUM! I made another batch of mushrooms and spinach and YUM!!
"dsi1" wrote in message ... On Sunday, September 30, 2018 at 11:00:25 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote: > > Those people didn't speak much, is that usual or was it just for the film. > What nationality are they? That was Vietnam and I suppose Asians tend to talk less in their films unless they're Chinese or Korean action films in which case, they're generally yelling and screaming. Here's the Vietnamese version of a spiralizer although my guess is that a green papaya wouldn't work with a spiralizer. :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7075x1MEl8&t=2789s == Awww that was Mui:)) |
Salted vs. unsalted butter ( YUM! I made another batch of mushrooms and spinach and YUM!!)
"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ... On 9/30/2018 3:38 PM, Ophelia wrote: > > > wrote in message ... > > On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 10:30:33 -0400, Dave Smith > > wrote: > >> On 2018-09-30 10:08 AM, jmcquown wrote: >>> On 9/30/2018 9:09 AM, Ophelia wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> "jmcquown" wrote in message ... >>>> >>>> On 9/29/2018 6:03 PM, Doris Night wrote: >>>>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 14:12:27 -0400, jmcquown > >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 9/29/2018 11:50 AM, wrote: >>>>>>> On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 11:31:26 PM UTC-5, Wayne >>>>>>> Boatwright wrote: >>>>>>>> On Fri 28 Sep 2018 07:28:39p, Doris Night told us... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've only ever bought it by accident. I really wish they wouldn't >>>>>>>>> put salted and unsalted side-by-side in the dairy fridge. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Doris >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Where would you suggest they put it? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> The salted and unsalted butters here are in completely different >>>>>>> colored >>>>>>> boxes and easily distinguished from each other. >>>>>>> >>>>>> Same thing here. I never buy unsalted butter. The salted butter >>>>>> (1/4 >>>>>> lb. sticks, four to a box) comes in a brown and white box and the >>>>>> unsalted is a blue and white box. I suppose if someone isn't used to >>>>>> shopping or is unfamiliar with the store and wasn't paying attention >>>>>> they could grab what they don't want by mistake. >>>>> >>>>> And sometimes people don't have their correct glasses on, and can't >>>>> see the words on the packages that well. >>>>> >>>>> I have the same problem with shampoo/conditioner. Same size, shape, >>>>> and colour of bottle, with lettering that is hard to read. >>>>> >>>>> Doris >>>>> >>>> Sorry! I've been wearing glasses since I was 12. I don't dare leave >>>> the house (much less drive or shop) without them. >>>> >>>> Jill >>>> >>>> == >>>> >>>> Can't manage without mine either:) >>>> >>> I'm not sure what Doris means by "correct" glasses. Mine are bi-focals. >>> I only need the one pair for both distance vision and reading. I used >>> to have separate prescription sunglasses (distance only) but I got tired >>> of having to swap out my glasses when I went outside (or was driving) >>> then back inside. Transition lenses are wonderful. :) >> >> >> It's a bit of a pain in the butt to have to carry two pairs of glasses >> and to switch but I prefer to drive with prescription sunglasses with >> distance correction only, especially on the motorcycle. Progressive >> bifocals tend to cut out correction in the periphery. I also wear them >> when paddling and bicycling. I like to be able to catch things off to >> the side without having to turn my head. Besides, there is something >> about transition lenses I don't like. > > Ive no idea what's a progressive bifocal.it's either progressive or a > bifocal, not both. > > My glasses have Varilux lenses, nothing is cut off at the edges... > perhaps you don't have properly fitted frames. > https://www.essilorusa.com/products/...ilux%2520Brand > == > > Ok just checked, your Varilux are the same as my Varifocals. > > Technically, by definition a bi focal is only two focal planes. progressive or vari-focal indicates a changing focal plane. They can go by different brand names. == Well that sorts that out then:)) Thank you:) |
Salted vs. unsalted butter ( YUM! I made another batch of mushrooms and spinach and YUM!!)
"jmcquown" wrote in message ... On 9/30/2018 3:52 PM, cshenk wrote: > Ophelia wrote: > >> >> >> "cshenk" wrote in message >> ... >> >> jmcquown wrote: >> >>> On 9/30/2018 9:09 AM, Ophelia wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> "jmcquown" wrote in message >>>> ... >>>> >>>> On 9/29/2018 6:03 PM, Doris Night wrote: >>>>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 14:12:27 -0400, jmcquown >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 9/29/2018 11:50 AM, wrote: >>>>>>> On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 11:31:26 PM UTC-5, Wayne >>>>>>> Boatwright wrote: >>>>>>>> On Fri 28 Sep 2018 07:28:39p, Doris Night told us... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've only ever bought it by accident. I really wish they >>>>>>>>> wouldn't put salted and unsalted side-by-side in the >>>>>>>>> dairy fridge. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Doris >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Where would you suggest they put it? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> The salted and unsalted butters here are in completely >>>>>>> different colored boxes and easily distinguished from each >>>>>>> other. >>>>>>> >>>>>> Same thing here. I never buy unsalted butter. The salted >>>>>> butter (1/4 lb. sticks, four to a box) comes in a brown and >>>>>> white box and the unsalted is a blue and white box. I suppose >>>>>> if someone isn't used to shopping or is unfamiliar with the >>>>>> store and wasn't paying attention they could grab what they >>>>>> don't want by mistake. >>>>> >>>>> And sometimes people don't have their correct glasses on, and >>>>> can't see the words on the packages that well. >>>>> >>>>> I have the same problem with shampoo/conditioner. Same size, >>>>> shape, and colour of bottle, with lettering that is hard to read. >>>>> >>>>> Doris >>>>> >>>> Sorry! I've been wearing glasses since I was 12. I don't dare >>>> leave the house (much less drive or shop) without them. >>>> >>>> Jill >>>> >>>> == >>>> >>>> Can't manage without mine either:) >>>> >>> I'm not sure what Doris means by "correct" glasses. Mine are >>> bi-focals. I only need the one pair for both distance vision and >>> reading. I used to have separate prescription sunglasses (distance >>> only) but I got tired of having to swap out my glasses when I went >>> outside (or was driving) then back inside. Transition lenses are >>> wonderful. :) >>> >>> Jill >> >> Jill, when you hit a level, you may need 3 pairs. 1- Driving and >> general, bi-focal >> >> 1 close up (computer) and general (but not driving distance) and 1 for >> driving and seeing the car console well. >> >> === >> >> Mine one pair covers all those things! > > Eventually, they no longer will. > Aren't you little miss sunshine! I'll take the word of my opthalmologist, thanks. Jill == Well, I've had this type for many many years ... decades! I can't see me now having to change to 3 pairs instead of one! Perhaps Carol ought to see a different opthalmologist. I don't know anyone, not a single person, who need 3 different pair of glasses. |
Salted vs. unsalted butter ( YUM! I made another batch of mushrooms and spinach and YUM!!)
"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ... On 9/30/2018 6:05 PM, jmcquown wrote: > On 9/30/2018 5:03 PM, Ophelia wrote: >> >> >> "cshenk" wrote in message >> ... >> >> Ophelia wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> "cshenk" wrote in message >>> ... >>> >>> jmcquown wrote: >>> >>> > On 9/30/2018 9:09 AM, Ophelia wrote: >>> > > >>> > > >>> >> "jmcquown" wrote in message >>> >> ... >>> > > >>> >> On 9/29/2018 6:03 PM, Doris Night wrote: >>> >> > On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 14:12:27 -0400, jmcquown >>> >> > > wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> > > On 9/29/2018 11:50 AM, wrote: >>> >> > > > On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 11:31:26 PM UTC-5, Wayne >>> >> > > > Boatwright wrote: >>> >> > > > > On Fri 28 Sep 2018 07:28:39p, Doris Night told us... >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > > I've only ever bought it by accident. I really wish they >>> >> > > > > > wouldn't put salted and unsalted side-by-side in the >>> >> > > > > > dairy fridge. >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > Doris >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > Where would you suggest they put it? >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > The salted and unsalted butters here are in completely >>> >> > > > different colored boxes and easily distinguished from each >>> >> > > > other. >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > Same thing here. I never buy unsalted butter. The salted >>> >> > > butter (1/4 lb. sticks, four to a box) comes in a brown and >>> >> > > white box and the unsalted is a blue and white box. I suppose >>> >> > > if someone isn't used to shopping or is unfamiliar with the >>> >> > > store and wasn't paying attention they could grab what they >>> >> > > don't want by mistake. >>> >> > >>> >> > And sometimes people don't have their correct glasses on, and >>> >> > can't see the words on the packages that well. >>> >> > >>> >> > I have the same problem with shampoo/conditioner. Same size, >>> >> > shape, and colour of bottle, with lettering that is hard to read. >>> >> > >>> >> > Doris >>> >> > >>> >> Sorry! I've been wearing glasses since I was 12. I don't dare >>> >> leave the house (much less drive or shop) without them. >>> > > >>> >> Jill >>> > > >>> >> == >>> > > >>> >> Can't manage without mine either:) >>> > > >>> > I'm not sure what Doris means by "correct" glasses. Mine are >>> > bi-focals. I only need the one pair for both distance vision and >>> > reading. I used to have separate prescription sunglasses (distance >>> > only) but I got tired of having to swap out my glasses when I went >>> > outside (or was driving) then back inside. Transition lenses are >>> > wonderful. :) >>> > >>> > Jill >>> >>> Jill, when you hit a level, you may need 3 pairs. 1- Driving and >>> general, bi-focal >>> >>> 1 close up (computer) and general (but not driving distance) and 1 for >>> driving and seeing the car console well. >>> >>> === >>> >>> Mine one pair covers all those things! >> >> Eventually, they no longer will. >> >> == >> >> Why on earth would they stop. I have my eyes checked fairly regularly >> and if I need stronger ones, I will just get the same type of lenses but >> stronger. >> >> > I don't know why she's saying this. Of course if our eyesight worsens > we'll get a stronger prescription. We certainly won't need three > different types of eye glasses. > > Jill Glasses won't work any more is you develop cataracts. They are usually easily corrected with laser surgery these days. == Yes, I've had cataracts removed from both eyes but I am still wearing varifocals. |
Salted vs. unsalted butter ( YUM! I made another batch of mushrooms and spinach and YUM!!)
"jmcquown" wrote in message ... On 9/30/2018 5:05 PM, Ophelia wrote: > > > "Cheri" wrote in message ... > "Ophelia" > wrote in message > ... >> >> >> "jmcquown" wrote in message ... >> >> On 9/30/2018 9:09 AM, Ophelia wrote: >>> >>> >>> "jmcquown" wrote in message ... >>> >>> On 9/29/2018 6:03 PM, Doris Night wrote: >>>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 14:12:27 -0400, jmcquown > >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 9/29/2018 11:50 AM, wrote: >>>>>> On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 11:31:26 PM UTC-5, Wayne Boatwright >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> On Fri 28 Sep 2018 07:28:39p, Doris Night told us... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've only ever bought it by accident. I really wish they wouldn't >>>>>>>> put salted and unsalted side-by-side in the dairy fridge. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Doris >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Where would you suggest they put it? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> The salted and unsalted butters here are in completely different >>>>>> colored >>>>>> boxes and easily distinguished from each other. >>>>>> >>>>> Same thing here. I never buy unsalted butter. The salted butter (1/4 >>>>> lb. sticks, four to a box) comes in a brown and white box and the >>>>> unsalted is a blue and white box. I suppose if someone isn't used to >>>>> shopping or is unfamiliar with the store and wasn't paying attention >>>>> they could grab what they don't want by mistake. >>>> >>>> And sometimes people don't have their correct glasses on, and can't >>>> see the words on the packages that well. >>>> >>>> I have the same problem with shampoo/conditioner. Same size, shape, >>>> and colour of bottle, with lettering that is hard to read. >>>> >>>> Doris >>>> >>> Sorry! I've been wearing glasses since I was 12. I don't dare leave >>> the house (much less drive or shop) without them. >>> >>> Jill >>> >>> == >>> >>> Can't manage without mine either:) >>> >> I'm not sure what Doris means by "correct" glasses. Mine are bi-focals. >> I only need the one pair for both distance vision and reading. I used >> to have separate prescription sunglasses (distance only) but I got tired >> of having to swap out my glasses when I went outside (or was driving) >> then back inside. Transition lenses are wonderful. :) >> >> Jill >> >> == >> >> Mine are similar to yours but you can't see where the lenses change. I >> have varifocals. They do the same job:) > > > You can't see where the lenses change with transition lenses either. > > Cheri > == > > Ahh I thought transition ones meant they darkened in the sun LOL sorry:)) > > Mine darken in the sun. That's what I meant by "transitions". They are perfectly clear indoors. :) Jill == Yes, thanks:) That is what I understood:)) I didn't like them while driving, so now I have two pairs of glasses, one regular varifocals and one darker pair. I just imagine having to drive out of sunlight into a dark tunnel (not usual i know but even so) they don't change fast enough for safety ... to my mind anyway. |
Salted vs. unsalted butter ( YUM! I made another batch of mushrooms and spinach and YUM!!)
"Brice" wrote in message ... On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 15:53:39 -0700, "Cheri" > wrote: >"jmcquown" > wrote in message ... >> On 9/30/2018 5:05 PM, Ophelia wrote: >>> >>> >>> "Cheri" wrote in message ... >>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> >>>> Mine are similar to yours but you can't see where the lenses change. I >>>> have varifocals. They do the same job:) >>> >>> >>> You can't see where the lenses change with transition lenses either. >>> >>> Cheri >>> == >>> >>> Ahh I thought transition ones meant they darkened in the sun LOL >>> sorry:)) >>> >>> >> Mine darken in the sun. That's what I meant by "transitions". They are >> perfectly clear indoors. :) >> >> Jill > > >Yes, mine too. Transitions darken and lighten, progressive lenses for near >and distance, no lines with any of them. I have reading glasses. For anything further away, I look over them. I hope that makes me look intelligent. I like to fool people. == I'm sure it works ... ;p |
Salted vs. unsalted butter ( YUM! I made another batch of mushrooms and spinach and YUM!!)
"cshenk" wrote in message ... Ophelia wrote: > > > "cshenk" wrote in message > ... > > Ophelia wrote: > > > > > > > "cshenk" wrote in message > > ... > > > > jmcquown wrote: > > > >> On 9/30/2018 9:09 AM, Ophelia wrote: > >> > > >> > > >>> "jmcquown" wrote in message > >>> ... > >> > > >>> On 9/29/2018 6:03 PM, Doris Night wrote: > >>> > On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 14:12:27 -0400, jmcquown > >>> > > wrote: > >>> > > >>> > > On 9/29/2018 11:50 AM, wrote: > >>> > > > On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 11:31:26 PM UTC-5, Wayne > >>> > > > Boatwright wrote: > >>> > > > > On Fri 28 Sep 2018 07:28:39p, Doris Night told us... > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > I've only ever bought it by accident. I really wish they > >>> > > > > > wouldn't put salted and unsalted side-by-side in the > >>> > > > > > dairy fridge. > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > Doris > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > Where would you suggest they put it? > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > The salted and unsalted butters here are in completely > >>> > > > different colored boxes and easily distinguished from each > >>> > > > other. > >>> > > > > >>> > > Same thing here. I never buy unsalted butter. The salted > >>> > > butter (1/4 lb. sticks, four to a box) comes in a brown and > >>> > > white box and the unsalted is a blue and white box. I suppose > >>> > > if someone isn't used to shopping or is unfamiliar with the > >>> > > store and wasn't paying attention they could grab what they > >>> > > don't want by mistake. > >>> > > >>> > And sometimes people don't have their correct glasses on, and > >>> > can't see the words on the packages that well. > >>> > > >>> > I have the same problem with shampoo/conditioner. Same size, > >>> > shape, and colour of bottle, with lettering that is hard to > read. >>> > > >>> > Doris > >>> > > >>> Sorry! I've been wearing glasses since I was 12. I don't dare > >>> leave the house (much less drive or shop) without them. > >> > > >>> Jill > >> > > >>> == > >> > > >>> Can't manage without mine either:) > >> > > >> I'm not sure what Doris means by "correct" glasses. Mine are > >> bi-focals. I only need the one pair for both distance vision and > >> reading. I used to have separate prescription sunglasses (distance > >> only) but I got tired of having to swap out my glasses when I went > >> outside (or was driving) then back inside. Transition lenses are > >> wonderful. :) > > > > >> Jill > > > > Jill, when you hit a level, you may need 3 pairs. 1- Driving and > > general, bi-focal > > > > 1 close up (computer) and general (but not driving distance) and 1 > > for driving and seeing the car console well. > > > > === > > > > Mine one pair covers all those things! > > Eventually, they no longer will. > > == > > Why on earth would they stop. I have my eyes checked fairly > regularly and if I need stronger ones, I will just get the same type > of lenses but stronger. Eventually if you are near and far sighted enough, you end up needng 2 pairs to work well. That is all I meant. I am happy if neither of you have vision isses to meet that difference. == Sorry, Carol but you are talking about way back in the day. That simply is not necessary now. Might I suggest (with respect) that you change your ophthalmologist? |
Salted vs. unsalted butter ( YUM! I made another batch of mushrooms and spinach and YUM!!)
"Cheri" wrote in message ... "dsi1" > wrote in message ... > On Sunday, September 30, 2018 at 1:21:37 PM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote: >> >> Dump the place that includes an eye check with 2 pairs of glasses for >> $69. Go to a top notch guy > > You could always go to a top notch guy to have your eyes examined and have > a prescription made and then have glasses made online. I think. I've never > ordered from one of these places. > > https://www.zennioptical.com I got mine at an optometrists, and then ordered another pair online. The online glasses are just as good, but much cheaper. Cheri == I've never tried that! |
YUM! I made another batch of mushrooms and spinach and YUM!!
On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 2:10:42 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> == > > Awww that was Mui:)) I don't believe that a papaya would work in one of those spiralizers but a julienne/peeler thing would work. In fact, it would probably work grate. :) When it comes in from Amazon, I shall pick up a green Vietnamese papaya and make some salad. Fried green papaya might work too. :) |
YUM! I made another batch of mushrooms and spinach and YUM!!
"dsi1" wrote in message ... On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 2:10:42 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote: > == > > Awww that was Mui:)) I don't believe that a papaya would work in one of those spiralizers but a julienne/peeler thing would work. In fact, it would probably work grate. :) When it comes in from Amazon, I shall pick up a green Vietnamese papaya and make some salad. Fried green papaya might work too. :) == Good luck:)) |
Salted vs. unsalted butter ( YUM! I made another batch ofmushrooms and spinach and YUM!!)
On 2018-10-01 7:44 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article >, > says... >> >> On Sunday, September 30, 2018 at 1:21:37 PM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote: >>> >>> Dump the place that includes an eye check with 2 pairs of glasses for >>> $69. Go to a top notch guy >> >> You could always go to a top notch guy to have your eyes examined and have a prescription made and then have glasses made online. > > Poor economy. > > Lens prescription is only half the skill. Putting them in the right > frame is essential. Varifocal and bifocal lenses won't work right unless > they are the size width and depth (for the prescription) and fitted in a > frame the right size for the patient, that holds the lenses in the > perfect position in relation to the eyes. Distance between eyes, socket > depth, nasal bridge width, vary from face to face. That was my problem when I had issues with bifocals. They had not been shaped and/or mounted properly. The first time it happened the distance correction was too high and I had to tip my head forward and look through the top of the lens to watch television or to drive. > > Finding the right frame should be done by the optometrist sitting face > to face with the client who is trying them on, and professionally > advising which are suitable or not. Then measuring them against the eye > and marking the factory lenses to show the lens maker where the pupil > is. > > Those online places invite the customer to DIY their own measurements > at home. Makes as much sense as DIY dentistry. Except for the pain part. |
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Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> > A year and a half ago I had > cataract surgery and lens implants. Now my vision is 20/20, and I > only need glasses for the computer and reading. If 20/20 now, why even for computer and reading? My Mom(tm) is scheduled for cataract surgery in a few weeks. They will do one, let it heal for 2 weeks then do the other eye. She's worried but I reassured her that it's a routine thing now and she will see much better. |
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Ophelia wrote:
> > I just imagine having to drive out of sunlight into a dark tunnel (not usual > i know but even so) they don't change fast enough for safety ... to my mind > anyway. That's a very valid concern. |
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On 10/1/2018 2:42 PM, Gary wrote:
> Wayne Boatwright wrote: >> >> A year and a half ago I had >> cataract surgery and lens implants. Now my vision is 20/20, and I >> only need glasses for the computer and reading. > > If 20/20 now, why even for computer and reading? > My Mom(tm) is scheduled for cataract surgery in a few weeks. They > will do one, let it heal for 2 weeks then do the other eye. She's > worried but I reassured her that it's a routine thing now and she > will see much better. > presbyopia It is the lens inside the eye being less flexible as you get older. Surgery does not fix it and you still cannot focus well mid to close range. I need glasses for reading (as well as seeing) but being nearsighted, with no glasses I can see very close thing better than most can with a magnifying glass. Key words- - very close |
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On 2018-10-01 2:42 PM, Gary wrote:
> Wayne Boatwright wrote: >> >> A year and a half ago I had >> cataract surgery and lens implants. Now my vision is 20/20, and I >> only need glasses for the computer and reading. > > If 20/20 now, why even for computer and reading? > My Mom(tm) is scheduled for cataract surgery in a few weeks. They > will do one, let it heal for 2 weeks then do the other eye. She's > worried but I reassured her that it's a routine thing now and she > will see much better. > You will likely be spending a lot of time driving her back and forth. She will have to go to a pre-op seminar, then getting measured. Then she goes for the surgery, which takes only 10-15 minutes. Then there is the follow up, which may be that afternoon if she is in early enough. Otherwise, it will be the next morning. |
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On 10/1/2018 2:43 PM, Gary wrote:
> Ophelia wrote: >> >> I just imagine having to drive out of sunlight into a dark tunnel (not usual >> i know but even so) they don't change fast enough for safety ... to my mind >> anyway. > > That's a very valid concern. > It was years ago. I've never had that problem and they change fast these days. How often do you drive in a tunnel anyway? |
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"Gary" wrote in message ... Wayne Boatwright wrote: > > A year and a half ago I had > cataract surgery and lens implants. Now my vision is 20/20, and I > only need glasses for the computer and reading. If 20/20 now, why even for computer and reading? My Mom(tm) is scheduled for cataract surgery in a few weeks. They will do one, let it heal for 2 weeks then do the other eye. She's worried but I reassured her that it's a routine thing now and she will see much better. == I had both mine done, but the eyes are now different! He didn't make them both the same! That is why I need my specs. They even out my eyesight! |
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On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 14:42:28 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>Wayne Boatwright wrote: >> >> A year and a half ago I had >> cataract surgery and lens implants. Now my vision is 20/20, and I >> only need glasses for the computer and reading. > >If 20/20 now, why even for computer and reading? >My Mom(tm) is scheduled for cataract surgery in a few weeks. They >will do one, let it heal for 2 weeks then do the other eye. She's >worried but I reassured her that it's a routine thing now and she >will see much better. It is, the surgery is a breeze, the only thing I felt was sort of a slight pressure on the eye. More irritating are all the drops afterwards that you do for about two weeks, but they are very important, you should explain that to her. Not a thing to do incorrectly. |
Salted vs. unsalted butter ( YUM! I made another batch of mushrooms and spinach and YUM!!)
"Gary" wrote in message ... Ophelia wrote: > > I just imagine having to drive out of sunlight into a dark tunnel (not > usual > i know but even so) they don't change fast enough for safety ... to my > mind > anyway. That's a very valid concern. == Thanks, Gary. I don't like to say it but it does concern me:) |
Salted vs. unsalted butter ( YUM! I made another batch of mushrooms and spinach and YUM!!)
"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ... On 10/1/2018 2:43 PM, Gary wrote: > Ophelia wrote: >> >> I just imagine having to drive out of sunlight into a dark tunnel (not >> usual >> i know but even so) they don't change fast enough for safety ... to my >> mind >> anyway. > > That's a very valid concern. > It was years ago. I've never had that problem and they change fast these days. How often do you drive in a tunnel anyway? == Yes, I was waiting for someone to say that:)) I have always had it in my mind so I doubt I will change now when I don't need to :) |
Salted vs. unsalted butter ( YUM! I made another batch of mushrooms and spinach and YUM!!)
Jinx the Minx wrote:
> jmcquown > wrote: > > On 9/30/2018 5:03 PM, Ophelia wrote: > >> > >> > >> "cshenk"* wrote in message > >> ... > >> > >> Ophelia wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> "cshenk"* wrote in message > >>> ... > >>> > >>> jmcquown wrote: > >>> > >>>> On 9/30/2018 9:09 AM, Ophelia wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> "jmcquown"* wrote in message > >>>>> ... > >>>>> > >>>>> On 9/29/2018 6:03 PM, Doris Night wrote: > >>>>>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 14:12:27 -0400, jmcquown > >>>>>> > wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 9/29/2018 11:50 AM, wrote: > >>>>>>>> On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 11:31:26 PM UTC-5, Wayne > >>>>>>>> Boatwright* wrote: > >>>>>>>>> On Fri 28 Sep 2018 07:28:39p, Doris Night told us... > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I've only ever bought it by accident. I really wish they > >>>>>>>>>> wouldn't put salted and unsalted side-by-side in the > >>>>>>>>>> dairy fridge. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Doris > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Where would you suggest they put it? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The salted and unsalted butters here are in completely > >>>>>>>> different* colored boxes and easily distinguished from each > >>>>>>>> other. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Same thing here.* I never buy unsalted butter.* The salted > >>>>>>> butter (1/4 lb. sticks, four to a box) comes in a brown and > >>>>>>> white box and the unsalted is a blue and white box.* I suppose > >>>>>>> if someone isn't used to shopping or is unfamiliar with the > >>>>>>> store and wasn't paying attention they could grab what they > >>>>>>> don't want by mistake. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> And sometimes people don't have their correct glasses on, and > >>>>>> can't see the words on the packages that well. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I have the same problem with shampoo/conditioner. Same size, > >>>>>> shape, and colour of bottle, with lettering that is hard to > read. >>>>>> > >>>>>> Doris > >>>>>> > >>>>> Sorry!* I've been wearing glasses since I was 12.* I don't dare > >>>>> leave the house (much less drive or shop) without them. > >>>>> > >>>>> Jill > >>>>> > >>>>> == > >>>>> > >>>>> Can't manage without mine either:) > >>>>> > >>>> I'm not sure what Doris means by "correct" glasses.* Mine are > >>>> bi-focals.** I only need the one pair for both distance vision > and >>>> reading.* I used to have separate prescription sunglasses > (distance >>>> only) but I got tired of having to swap out my glasses > when I went >>>> outside (or was driving) then back inside.* > Transition lenses are >>>> wonderful. :) > >>>> > >>>> Jill > >>> > >>> Jill, when you hit a level, you may need 3 pairs.* 1- Driving and > >>> general, bi-focal > >>> > >>> 1 close up (computer) and general (but not driving distance) and > 1 for >>> driving and seeing the car console well. > >>> > >>> === > >>> > >>> Mine one pair covers all those things! > >> > >> Eventually, they no longer will. > >> > >> == > >> > >> Why on earth would they stop.* I have my eyes checked fairly > regularly >> and if I need stronger ones, I will just get the same > type of lenses but >> stronger. > >> > >> > > I don't know why she's saying this. Of course if our eyesight > > worsens we'll get a stronger prescription. We certainly won't need > > three different types of eye glasses. > > > > Jill > > > > I think Carol is talking about presbyopia, an inability to focus, > which affects most people over the age of 40. These are the > reading glasses or computer glasses shes talking about. Reading > glasses dont make your prescription stronger, they actually lower > the power you need for those of us who are nearsighted. For > instance, Im -10.00 in one eye, but I need magnification of +2.00 in > order to read a dang menu in a dim restaurant, so with readers, my > prescription effectively becomes -8.00. Yes, I think that is what it is called. Im my case, I have a prescription set that is a bifocal for driving and regular distance things like a car dashboard. I have a second set that is also a bi-focal and its medium and close range. Those are specifically geared to working with compters and spreadsheets (ie; specific to distance to monitor(s). I have a 3rd set that I probably won't replace as they age out but they are bi-focals with distance and close up. Mid range is fuzzy. I tried but was not comfortable with the viewing area of tri-focals. I am both near sighted and far sighted, or so is how it is described? It's not technically both (at least I don't think it is technically accurate), but that is what it 'feels like'. I also have astigmatisms. The Navy told me I class as legally blind without my glasses but that may be fairly common. I recall as I entered the Navy, thy took off my glasses and spun me around then told me to read the wall chart. I had to ask which wall it was on... (not entirely joking but had to squint to read the first line). That was in my 20's and only lacked distance vision then. |
Salted vs. unsalted butter ( YUM! I made another batch of mushrooms and spinach and YUM!!)
Ophelia wrote:
> > > "cshenk" wrote in message > ... > > Ophelia wrote: > > > > > > > "cshenk" wrote in message > > ... > > > > Ophelia wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> "cshenk" wrote in message > >> ... > > > > >> jmcquown wrote: > > > > >>> On 9/30/2018 9:09 AM, Ophelia wrote: > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> "jmcquown" wrote in message > >>>> ... > >>> > > >>>> On 9/29/2018 6:03 PM, Doris Night wrote: > >>>> > On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 14:12:27 -0400, jmcquown > >>>> > > wrote: > >>>> > > >>>> > > On 9/29/2018 11:50 AM, wrote: > >>>> > > > On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 11:31:26 PM UTC-5, Wayne > >>>> > > > Boatwright wrote: > >>>> > > > > On Fri 28 Sep 2018 07:28:39p, Doris Night told us... > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > I've only ever bought it by accident. I really wish > they >>>> > > > > > wouldn't put salted and unsalted side-by-side in > the >>>> > > > > > dairy fridge. > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > Doris > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > Where would you suggest they put it? > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > The salted and unsalted butters here are in completely > >>>> > > > different colored boxes and easily distinguished from each > >>>> > > > other. > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > Same thing here. I never buy unsalted butter. The salted > >>>> > > butter (1/4 lb. sticks, four to a box) comes in a brown and > >>>> > > white box and the unsalted is a blue and white box. I > suppose >>>> > > if someone isn't used to shopping or is unfamiliar > with the >>>> > > store and wasn't paying attention they could grab > what they >>>> > > don't want by mistake. > >>>> > > >>>> > And sometimes people don't have their correct glasses on, and > >>>> > can't see the words on the packages that well. > >>>> > > >>>> > I have the same problem with shampoo/conditioner. Same size, > >>>> > shape, and colour of bottle, with lettering that is hard to > >read. >>> > > >>>> > Doris > >>>> > > >>>> Sorry! I've been wearing glasses since I was 12. I don't dare > >>>> leave the house (much less drive or shop) without them. > >>> > > >>>> Jill > >>> > > >>>> == > >>> > > >>>> Can't manage without mine either:) > >>> > > >>> I'm not sure what Doris means by "correct" glasses. Mine are > >>> bi-focals. I only need the one pair for both distance vision and > >>> reading. I used to have separate prescription sunglasses > (distance >>> only) but I got tired of having to swap out my glasses > when I went >>> outside (or was driving) then back inside. > Transition lenses are >>> wonderful. :) > >> > > >>> Jill > > > > >> Jill, when you hit a level, you may need 3 pairs. 1- Driving and > >> general, bi-focal > > > > >> 1 close up (computer) and general (but not driving distance) and 1 > >> for driving and seeing the car console well. > > > > >> === > > > > >> Mine one pair covers all those things! > > > > Eventually, they no longer will. > > > > == > > > > Why on earth would they stop. I have my eyes checked fairly > > regularly and if I need stronger ones, I will just get the same type > > of lenses but stronger. > > Eventually if you are near and far sighted enough, you end up needng 2 > pairs to work well. That is all I meant. I am happy if neither of > you have vision isses to meet that difference. > > == > > Sorry, Carol but you are talking about way back in the day. That > simply is not necessary now. > > Might I suggest (with respect) that you change your ophthalmologist? The message i posted today may help you understand it. I didn't adapt to tri-focals well. |
Salted vs. unsalted butter ( YUM! I made another batch of mushrooms and spinach and YUM!!)
U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 21:18:31 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote: > > > U.S. Janet B. wrote: > > > >> On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 13:15:53 -0500, "cshenk" > > wrote: >> > >> > jmcquown wrote: > >> > > >> >> On 9/30/2018 9:09 AM, Ophelia wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > "jmcquown"* wrote in message > >> >> > ... > >> >> > > >> >> > On 9/29/2018 6:03 PM, Doris Night wrote: > >> >> > > On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 14:12:27 -0400, jmcquown > >> >> > > > wrote: > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > On 9/29/2018 11:50 AM, wrote: > >> >> > > > > On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 11:31:26 PM UTC-5, > Wayne >> >> > > > > Boatwright wrote: > >> >> > > > > > On Fri 28 Sep 2018 07:28:39p, Doris Night told us... > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > I've only ever bought it by accident. I really wish > >> they >> > > > > > > wouldn't put salted and unsalted side-by-side > in >> the >> > > > > > > dairy fridge. > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > Doris > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > Where would you suggest they put it? > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > The salted and unsalted butters here are in completely > >> >> > > > > different colored boxes and easily distinguished from > each >> >> > > > > other. > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > Same thing here.* I never buy unsalted butter.* The salted > >> >> > > > butter (1/4 lb. sticks, four to a box) comes in a brown > and >> >> > > > white box and the unsalted is a blue and white box.* I > >> suppose >> > > > if someone isn't used to shopping or is unfamiliar > >> with the >> > > > store and wasn't paying attention they could grab > >> what they >> > > > don't want by mistake. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > And sometimes people don't have their correct glasses on, > and >> >> > > can't see the words on the packages that well. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > I have the same problem with shampoo/conditioner. Same size, > >> >> > > shape, and colour of bottle, with lettering that is hard to > >> read. >> > > > >> >> > > Doris > >> >> > > > >> >> > Sorry!* I've been wearing glasses since I was 12.* I don't > dare >> >> > leave the house (much less drive or shop) without them. > >> >> > > >> >> > Jill > >> >> > > >> >> > == > >> >> > > >> >> > Can't manage without mine either:) > >> >> > > >> >> I'm not sure what Doris means by "correct" glasses. Mine are > >> >> bi-focals. I only need the one pair for both distance vision > and >> >> reading. I used to have separate prescription sunglasses > (distance >> >> only) but I got tired of having to swap out my > glasses when I went >> >> outside (or was driving) then back inside. > Transition lenses are >> >> wonderful. :) > >> >> > >> >> Jill > >> > > >> > Jill, when you hit a level, you may need 3 pairs. 1- Driving and > >> > general, bi-focal > >> > > >> > 1 close up (computer) and general (but not driving distance) and > 1 >> > for driving and seeing the car console well. > >> > > >> Why? My one pair covers all those things. For the computer, > change >> the distance you sit to the computer and either raise or > lower your >> chair until you see properly. A general light on the > desk top will >> help also. Same goes for the dash board. Adjust > the car seat. > > > > I am happy for you that your vision is better so can not understand > > the issues others have. > > you win, Your problems are special I simply have more vision issues than the rest of you. Thats all it is. |
Salted vs. unsalted butter ( YUM! I made another batch of mushrooms and spinach and YUM!!)
Janet wrote:
> In article >, > says... > > > > On Sunday, September 30, 2018 at 1:21:37 PM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. > > wrote: > > > > > > Dump the place that includes an eye check with 2 pairs of glasses > > > for $69. Go to a top notch guy > > > > You could always go to a top notch guy to have your eyes examined > > and have a prescription made and then have glasses made online. > > Poor economy. > > Lens prescription is only half the skill. Putting them in the right > frame is essential. Varifocal and bifocal lenses won't work right > unless they are the size width and depth (for the prescription) and > fitted in a frame the right size for the patient, that holds the > lenses in the perfect position in relation to the eyes. Distance > between eyes, socket depth, nasal bridge width, vary from face to > face. > > Finding the right frame should be done by the optometrist sitting > face to face with the client who is trying them on, and > professionally advising which are suitable or not. Then measuring > them against the eye and marking the factory lenses to show the lens > maker where the pupil is. > > Those online places invite the customer to DIY their own > measurements at home. Makes as much sense as DIY dentistry. > > Janet UK. Correct. I've never tried 'online fitting' after experience with the Navy trying to do that. I got a set that literally were upside down. |
Salted vs. unsalted butter ( YUM! I made another batch of mushrooms and spinach and YUM!!)
Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/1/2018 2:43 PM, Gary wrote: > > Ophelia wrote: > > > > > > I just imagine having to drive out of sunlight into a dark tunnel > > > (not usual i know but even so) they don't change fast enough for > > > safety ... to my mind anyway. > > > > That's a very valid concern. > > > > It was years ago. I've never had that problem and they change fast > these days. How often do you drive in a tunnel anyway? 3 of the largest/longest bridge tunnels in the world are in Hampton Roads. |
Salted vs. unsalted butter ( YUM! I made another batch of mushrooms and spinach and YUM!!)
Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/1/2018 2:43 PM, Gary wrote: > > Ophelia wrote: > > > > > > I just imagine having to drive out of sunlight into a dark tunnel > > > (not usual i know but even so) they don't change fast enough for > > > safety ... to my mind anyway. > > > > That's a very valid concern. > > > > It was years ago. I've never had that problem and they change fast > these days. How often do you drive in a tunnel anyway? In Hampton Roads? Daily for probably 40% of us at the minimum. n Some of them are combined bridge[tunnels and others are just tunnels. |
Salted vs. unsalted butter ( YUM! I made another batch ofmushrooms and spinach and YUM!!)
On 10/1/2018 7:17 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Ed Pawlowski wrote: > >> On 10/1/2018 2:43 PM, Gary wrote: >>> Ophelia wrote: >>>> >>>> I just imagine having to drive out of sunlight into a dark tunnel >>>> (not usual i know but even so) they don't change fast enough for >>>> safety ... to my mind anyway. >>> >>> That's a very valid concern. >>> >> >> It was years ago. I've never had that problem and they change fast >> these days. How often do you drive in a tunnel anyway? > > In Hampton Roads? Daily for probably 40% of us at the minimum. n Some > of them are combined bridge[tunnels and others are just tunnels. > I've been through a couple of them. I had no problem. Most are lit brighter near the exit to avoid that sort of thing these days too. |
Salted vs. unsalted butter ( YUM! I made another batch ofmushrooms and spinach and YUM!!)
> On Mon 01 Oct 2018 04:44:13a, Janet told us... >> >> Those online places invite the customer to DIY their own >> measurements >> at home. Makes as much sense as DIY dentistry. >> >> Janet UK. You can probably do that with many single vision lenses. Progressive lenses are more critical and a 1mm mis measurement can give you problems. I'm not going to trust home made even if there are beg savings. |
Salted vs. unsalted butter ( YUM! I made another batch of mushrooms and spinach and YUM!!)
"cshenk" wrote in message ... Ophelia wrote: > > > "cshenk" wrote in message > ... > > Ophelia wrote: > > > > > > > "cshenk" wrote in message > > ... > > > > Ophelia wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> "cshenk" wrote in message > >> ... > > > > >> jmcquown wrote: > > > > >>> On 9/30/2018 9:09 AM, Ophelia wrote: > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> "jmcquown" wrote in message > >>>> ... > >>> > > >>>> On 9/29/2018 6:03 PM, Doris Night wrote: > >>>> > On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 14:12:27 -0400, jmcquown > >>>> > > wrote: > >>>> > > >>>> > > On 9/29/2018 11:50 AM, wrote: > >>>> > > > On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 11:31:26 PM UTC-5, Wayne > >>>> > > > Boatwright wrote: > >>>> > > > > On Fri 28 Sep 2018 07:28:39p, Doris Night told us... > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > I've only ever bought it by accident. I really wish > they >>>> > > > > > wouldn't put salted and unsalted side-by-side in > the >>>> > > > > > dairy fridge. > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > Doris > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > Where would you suggest they put it? > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > The salted and unsalted butters here are in completely > >>>> > > > different colored boxes and easily distinguished from each > >>>> > > > other. > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > Same thing here. I never buy unsalted butter. The salted > >>>> > > butter (1/4 lb. sticks, four to a box) comes in a brown and > >>>> > > white box and the unsalted is a blue and white box. I > suppose >>>> > > if someone isn't used to shopping or is unfamiliar > with the >>>> > > store and wasn't paying attention they could grab > what they >>>> > > don't want by mistake. > >>>> > > >>>> > And sometimes people don't have their correct glasses on, and > >>>> > can't see the words on the packages that well. > >>>> > > >>>> > I have the same problem with shampoo/conditioner. Same size, > >>>> > shape, and colour of bottle, with lettering that is hard to > >read. >>> > > >>>> > Doris > >>>> > > >>>> Sorry! I've been wearing glasses since I was 12. I don't dare > >>>> leave the house (much less drive or shop) without them. > >>> > > >>>> Jill > >>> > > >>>> == > >>> > > >>>> Can't manage without mine either:) > >>> > > >>> I'm not sure what Doris means by "correct" glasses. Mine are > >>> bi-focals. I only need the one pair for both distance vision and > >>> reading. I used to have separate prescription sunglasses > (distance >>> only) but I got tired of having to swap out my glasses > when I went >>> outside (or was driving) then back inside. > Transition lenses are >>> wonderful. :) > >> > > >>> Jill > > > > >> Jill, when you hit a level, you may need 3 pairs. 1- Driving and > >> general, bi-focal > > > > >> 1 close up (computer) and general (but not driving distance) and 1 > >> for driving and seeing the car console well. > > > > >> === > > > > >> Mine one pair covers all those things! > > > > Eventually, they no longer will. > > > > == > > > > Why on earth would they stop. I have my eyes checked fairly > > regularly and if I need stronger ones, I will just get the same type > > of lenses but stronger. > > Eventually if you are near and far sighted enough, you end up needng 2 > pairs to work well. That is all I meant. I am happy if neither of > you have vision isses to meet that difference. > > == > > Sorry, Carol but you are talking about way back in the day. That > simply is not necessary now. > > Might I suggest (with respect) that you change your ophthalmologist? The message i posted today may help you understand it. I didn't adapt to tri-focals well. == No, not tri-focals but Varifocals. At least ask about them? |
Salted vs. unsalted butter ( YUM! I made another batch of mushrooms and spinach and YUM!!)
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says... > > On Mon 01 Oct 2018 04:44:13a, Janet told us... > > > In article > > >, > > says... > >> > >> On Sunday, September 30, 2018 at 1:21:37 PM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > Dump the place that includes an eye check with 2 pairs of > >> > glasses for $69. Go to a top notch guy > >> > >> You could always go to a top notch guy to have your eyes examined > >> and have a prescription made and then have glasses made online. > > > > Poor economy. > > > > Lens prescription is only half the skill. Putting them in the > > right > > frame is essential. Varifocal and bifocal lenses won't work right > > unless they are the size width and depth (for the prescription) > > and fitted in a frame the right size for the patient, that holds > > the lenses in the perfect position in relation to the eyes. > > Distance between eyes, socket depth, nasal bridge width, vary from > > face to face. > > > > Finding the right frame should be done by the optometrist sitting > > face to face with the client who is trying them on, and > > professionally advising which are suitable or not. Then measuring > > them against the eye and marking the factory lenses to show the > > lens maker where the pupil is. > > > > Those online places invite the customer to DIY their own > > measurements > > at home. Makes as much sense as DIY dentistry. > > > > Janet UK. > > > > Janet, you certainly did a creditable job in defining what elements > are mecessary to provide complete range of eye care. I'd just to add > some further definition. > > Ophthalmologists differ from optometrists and opticians in their > levels of training and in what they can diagnose and treat. As a > medical doctor who has completed college and at least eight years of > additional medical training, an ophthalmologist is licensed to > practice medicine and surgery. > I'm well aware of the distinctions. My father was an optometrist. My eye tests and spectacle fitting are carried out by a UK optometrist. Like everybody else (in UK), in casual conversation I call visits for eye exams, new specs etc "going to the opticians". Nearly all Brits call it that, when in fact they are going to see optometrists ( highly qualified and nationally accredited university graduates with 4 to 5 years specialist training). Also, we visit our "GP" (family Dr) at "the surgery", which is an office with no operating theatre or surgeons. Janet UK. |
Salted vs. unsalted butter ( YUM! I made another batch ofmushrooms and spinach and YUM!!)
On 10/1/2018 5:52 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > The Navy told me I class as legally blind without my glasses but that > may be fairly common. I recall as I entered the Navy, thy took off my > glasses and spun me around then told me to read the wall chart. I had > to ask which wall it was on... (not entirely joking but had to squint > to read the first line). That was in my 20's and only lacked distance > vision then. > I'm 20/400. Legally blind is 20/200, easy to achieve. The real difference is, legally blind is when it cannot be corrected to better than 20/200. I always donate my old glasses to the Lions club and they give them to people in poor countries. I wonder what it would be like for a native to go through life very nearsighted and suddenly get a pair of corrective lenses. As an aside, you can have better than 2020 vision. Here are some other facts Levels of Vision 20/20 - Normal vision. Fighter pilot minimum. Required to read the stock quotes in the newspaper, or numbers in the telephone book. 20/40 - Able to pass Driver's License Test in all 50 States. Most printed material is at this level. 20/80 - Able to read alarm clock at 10 feet. News Headlines are this size. 20/200 - Legal blindness. Able to see STOP sign letters. |
Salted vs. unsalted butter ( YUM! I made another batch of mushrooms and spinach and YUM!!)
On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 10:57:05 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>On 10/1/2018 5:52 PM, cshenk wrote: > >> >> The Navy told me I class as legally blind without my glasses but that >> may be fairly common. I recall as I entered the Navy, thy took off my >> glasses and spun me around then told me to read the wall chart. I had >> to ask which wall it was on... (not entirely joking but had to squint >> to read the first line). That was in my 20's and only lacked distance >> vision then. >> > >I'm 20/400. Legally blind is 20/200, easy to achieve. The real >difference is, legally blind is when it cannot be corrected to better >than 20/200. > >I always donate my old glasses to the Lions club and they give them to >people in poor countries. I wonder what it would be like for a native >to go through life very nearsighted and suddenly get a pair of >corrective lenses. > >As an aside, you can have better than 2020 vision. Here are some other >facts >Levels of Vision >20/20 - Normal vision. Fighter pilot minimum. Required to read the stock >quotes in the newspaper, or numbers in the telephone book. > >20/40 - Able to pass Driver's License Test in all 50 States. Most >printed material is at this level. >20/80 - Able to read alarm clock at 10 feet. News Headlines are this size. >20/200 - Legal blindness. Able to see STOP sign letters. I went in for my annual eye exam yesterday. I've cataract surgery in both eyes. We discovered yesterday that my right eye is no longer 20/20 but has slipped to 20/30. Statistically it doesn't happen a lot to people who have had cataract surgery but it does happen. I hope it doesn't slip further. |
Salted vs. unsalted butter ( YUM! I made another batch ofmushrooms and spinach and YUM!!)
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Salted vs. unsalted butter ( YUM! I made another batch ofmushrooms and spinach and YUM!!)
On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 4:13:49 AM UTC-10, Janet wrote:
> > I'm well aware of the distinctions. My father was an optometrist. > My eye tests and spectacle fitting are carried out by a UK optometrist. > > Like everybody else (in UK), in casual conversation I call visits for > eye exams, new specs etc "going to the opticians". Nearly all Brits call > it that, when in fact they are going to see optometrists ( highly > qualified and nationally accredited university graduates with 4 to 5 > years specialist training). > > Also, we visit our "GP" (family Dr) at "the surgery", which is an > office with no operating theatre or surgeons. > > > > Janet UK. My brother's wife was an ophthalmologist. Her thing was to harvest eyes for eye banks. When she married my brother, she stopped doing that and started raising show dogs. It's a gig that's marginally better than removing eyes from dead people. |
Salted vs. unsalted butter ( YUM! I made another batch ofmushrooms and spinach and YUM!!)
On 2018-10-02 8:13 AM, Janet wrote:
> > I'm well aware of the distinctions. My father was an optometrist. > My eye tests and spectacle fitting are carried out by a UK optometrist. > > Like everybody else (in UK), in casual conversation I call visits for > eye exams, new specs etc "going to the opticians". Nearly all Brits call > it that, when in fact they are going to see optometrists ( highly > qualified and nationally accredited university graduates with 4 to 5 > years specialist training). > Things have changed then! The first time I saw an optometrist (it was in Canada) I saw his qualifications, framed on the wall. He had an ordinary degree in biology followed by a ONE YEAR COURSE in optometry that allowed him to call himself "Dr". I switched pretty promptly to an ophthalmologist. These days optometrists are better trained and ophthalmologists have stopped doing routine eye exams and have passed that aspect on to optometrists. |
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> > On 2018-10-02 8:13 AM, Janet wrote: > > > > > I'm well aware of the distinctions. My father was an optometrist. > > My eye tests and spectacle fitting are carried out by a UK optometrist. > > > > Like everybody else (in UK), in casual conversation I call visits for > > eye exams, new specs etc "going to the opticians". Nearly all Brits call > > it that, when in fact they are going to see optometrists ( highly > > qualified and nationally accredited university graduates with 4 to 5 > > years specialist training). > > > Things have changed then! > The first time I saw an optometrist (it was in Canada) I saw his > qualifications, framed on the wall. > He had an ordinary degree in biology followed by a ONE YEAR COURSE in > optometry that allowed him to call himself "Dr". > I switched pretty promptly to an ophthalmologist. > These days optometrists are better trained and ophthalmologists have > stopped doing routine eye exams and have passed that aspect on to > optometrists. https://www.rcophth.ac.uk/about/what...gy/what-is-an- ophthalmologist/ An ophthalmologist is a medically trained doctor who commonly acts as both physician and surgeon. (S)he examines, diagnoses and treats diseases and injuries in and around the eye. Ophthalmologists undergo extensive training, a typical training route is: Entry into a medical school with at least 3 excellent A levels 5 years at a medical school leading to a degree in medicine (e.g. MBChB) 2 years as a newly qualified doctor doing basic medical training called the Foundation programme. Full registration with the General Medical Council occurs after the first year of this training. 7 years of ophthalmic specialist training (OST) during which time rigorous examinations set by the Royal College of Ophthalmologists must be passed https://www.prospects.ac.uk/job-prof...qualifications https://www.prospects.ac.uk/job-prof...qualifications Qualifications To work as an optometrist you must be registered with the GOC, the regulator for the optical professions in the UK. In order to do this, you must: get a minimum of a 2:2 BSc, or equivalent, in a GOC-approved optometry course complete 12 to 15 months salaried pre-registration training under the guidance of a GOC-registered optometrist, who is a member of the College of Optometrists pass the College of Optometrists' GOC work-based and final assessments. There are a number of universities currently running approved degree courses. Entry requirements vary between universities but you'll typically need a minimum of AAB at A-level, or equivalent, with at least two science subjects. Graduates with a 2:1 degree or above in a science-related subject may also be considered for entry on to an approved undergraduate course. Degree courses usually last three years full time (four years in Scotland), although some providers offer an integrated four-year Master of Optometry (MOptom), which incorporates the pre-registration period. Students who successfully complete this course are fully qualified and able to register as optometrists with the GOC. See GOC - What to study and where for a list of approved course providers. Once you've got a 2:2 or above from an approved provider and have a valid Certificate of Clinical Competence, which is awarded on graduation and is valid for two years, you can undertake pre-registration training. If you fail to achieve a 2:2 or if your certificate expires you must successfully complete the GOC's Optometry Progression Scheme before entering a pre-registration placement. Janet. |
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