Gordon Ramsay knows what he's doing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZcoTQuYUqQ

Jill

On Sat, 1 Sep 2018 22:27:22 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>Gordon Ramsay knows what he's doing:
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZcoTQuYUqQ

He's good when his ego's asleep.

On Sat, 1 Sep 2018 22:13:02 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Sat, 1 Sep 2018 22:27:22 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Gordon Ramsay knows what he's doing:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZcoTQuYUqQ
>>
>> Jill
>
>They didn't show the color inside when he cut it, which means he
>****ed it up.

I bet he can do better without a camera on him.

On 2018-09-01 9:13 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sat, 1 Sep 2018 22:27:22 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Gordon Ramsay knows what he's doing:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZcoTQuYUqQ
>>
>> Jill
>
> They didn't show the color inside when he cut it, which means he
> ****ed it up.
>
> Cold steaks are not going to warm up on the inside being out the
> fridge for only 20 minutes. That's only enough time to increase the
> likelyhood of the problem he supposedly trying to avoid (overdone
> outside, raw inside).
>
> -sw
>
Be sure to tell us when you run a restaurant and obtain 3 Michelin stars!

On Sat, 1 Sep 2018 22:10:08 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 2018-09-01 9:13 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Sat, 1 Sep 2018 22:27:22 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> Gordon Ramsay knows what he's doing:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZcoTQuYUqQ
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> They didn't show the color inside when he cut it, which means he
>> ****ed it up.
>>
>> Cold steaks are not going to warm up on the inside being out the
>> fridge for only 20 minutes. That's only enough time to increase the
>> likelyhood of the problem he supposedly trying to avoid (overdone
>> outside, raw inside).
>>
>> -sw
>>
>Be sure to tell us when you run a restaurant and obtain 3 Michelin stars!

For real or in his own mind?

"jmcquown" wrote in message ...

Gordon Ramsay knows what he's doing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZcoTQuYUqQ

Jill

==

Blocked in my country

Ophelia wrote:
>
> "jmcquown":
> Gordon Ramsay knows what he's doing:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZcoTQuYUqQ
> ==
>
> Blocked in my country

No worries. I'm sure you don't need Gordon Ramsay to tell you how
to cook a steak.

"Gary" wrote in message ...

Ophelia wrote:
>
> "jmcquown":
> Gordon Ramsay knows what he's doing:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZcoTQuYUqQ
> ==
>
> Blocked in my country

No worries. I'm sure you don't need Gordon Ramsay to tell you how
to cook a steak.
==

lol of course, but if someone here (Jill?) thought it was interesting then I
would like to have seen it)

I wouldn't normally watch him though. From the few I have seen ... not the
nicest person in the world.

Ophelia wrote:
>
> I wouldn't normally watch him though. From the few I have seen ... not the
> nicest person in the world.

I've seen nice Gordon. He just plays the mean chef on that one
show.

On 9/2/2018 9:15 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Gary"Â* wrote in message ...
>
> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> "jmcquown":
>> Gordon Ramsay knows what he's doing:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZcoTQuYUqQ
>> ==
>>
>> Blocked in my country
>
> No worries. I'm sure you don't need Gordon Ramsay to tell you how
> to cook a steak.
> ==
>
> lol of course, but if someone here (Jill?) thought it was interesting
> then I would like to have seen it)
>
> I wouldn't normally watch him though.Â* From the few I have seen ... not
> the nicest person in the world.
>
>
His television persona is not at all like his cooking at home videos.
Sorry you can't view them. You likely could if you did a search.

Jill

On 9/2/2018 10:37 AM, Gary wrote:
> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> I wouldn't normally watch him though. From the few I have seen ... not the
>> nicest person in the world.
>
> I've seen nice Gordon. He just plays the mean chef on that one
> show.
>
Yeah. Hell's Kitchen. He was always yelling at people. That is not
how he is in these instructional videos.

Jill

"jmcquown" wrote in message ...

On 9/2/2018 9:15 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Gary" wrote in message ...
>
> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> "jmcquown":
>> Gordon Ramsay knows what he's doing:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZcoTQuYUqQ
>> ==
>>
>> Blocked in my country
>
> No worries. I'm sure you don't need Gordon Ramsay to tell you how
> to cook a steak.
> ==
>
> lol of course, but if someone here (Jill?) thought it was interesting
> then I would like to have seen it)
>
> I wouldn't normally watch him though. From the few I have seen ... not
> the nicest person in the world.
>
>
His television persona is not at all like his cooking at home videos.
Sorry you can't view them. You likely could if you did a search.

Jill
==

Yes, I might give it a try

On Sat, 1 Sep 2018 22:13:02 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Sat, 1 Sep 2018 22:27:22 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Gordon Ramsay knows what he's doing:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZcoTQuYUqQ
>>
>> Jill
>
>They didn't show the color inside when he cut it, which means he
>****ed it up.
>
>Cold steaks are not going to warm up on the inside being out the
>fridge for only 20 minutes. That's only enough time to increase the
>likelyhood of the problem he supposedly trying to avoid (overdone
>outside, raw inside).
>
>-sw

Agreed. Ramsay couldn't cook oatmeal.
Very few of thoat TV personalities who call hemselves shef can
cook anything.

On Sun, 02 Sep 2018 16:27:02 -0400, wrote:

>On Sat, 1 Sep 2018 22:13:02 -0500, Sqwertz >
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 1 Sep 2018 22:27:22 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> Gordon Ramsay knows what he's doing:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZcoTQuYUqQ
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>>They didn't show the color inside when he cut it, which means he
>>****ed it up.
>>
>>Cold steaks are not going to warm up on the inside being out the
>>fridge for only 20 minutes. That's only enough time to increase the
>>likelyhood of the problem he supposedly trying to avoid (overdone
>>outside, raw inside).
>>
>>-sw
>
>Agreed. Ramsay couldn't cook oatmeal.

Right, that's why he owns restaurants and you mow grass.

Druce wrote:
> On Sun, 02 Sep 2018 16:27:02 -0400, wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 1 Sep 2018 22:13:02 -0500, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 1 Sep 2018 22:27:22 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gordon Ramsay knows what he's doing:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZcoTQuYUqQ
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> They didn't show the color inside when he cut it, which means he
>>> ****ed it up.
>>>
>>> Cold steaks are not going to warm up on the inside being out the
>>> fridge for only 20 minutes. That's only enough time to increase the
>>> likelyhood of the problem he supposedly trying to avoid (overdone
>>> outside, raw inside).
>>>
>>> -sw
>>
>> Agreed. Ramsay couldn't cook oatmeal.
>
> Right, that's why he owns restaurants and you mow grass.
>

Yoose do know that Popeye has declared all restaurants to be horrible.

And yoose know dat Popeye is the only one who can cook.

and yoose know dat Popeye is always right.

And yoose now know dat ramsay's restaurants are all tiad.

QED.

On 9/2/2018 8:47 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Sep 2018 12:37:08 -0400, jmcquown wrote:

>> Yeah. Hell's Kitchen. He was always yelling at people. That is not
>> how he is in these instructional videos.
>
> What's he going to do, yell at himself? Yell at his imaginary
> audience?

(laugh) Where'd you learn to screw up shrimp like that, you bleeping
idiot!?? Sir, me mum taught me. She's an idiot! Don't talk about
my mother like that!

nancy

On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 3:27:07 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
....
> Agreed. Ramsay couldn't cook oatmeal.
> Very few of thoat TV personalities who call hemselves shef can
> cook anything.

Some can, but you are right. Food TV went to shit before I stopped watching TV all together.

Remember Justin Wilson? I liked his style!

John Kuthe...

On Sun, 2 Sep 2018 19:46:28 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Sun, 02 Sep 2018 10:37:39 -0400, Gary wrote:
>
>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>> I wouldn't normally watch him though. From the few I have seen ... not the
>>> nicest person in the world.
>>
>> I've seen nice Gordon. He just plays the mean chef on that one
>> show.
>
>"That one show"? He's an asshole on all his shows. Andf he's an
>asshole in real life, too.

Of all the people in this newsgroup you're the most like Gordon
Ramsay.

On 9/2/2018 4:27 PM, wrote:
> On Sat, 1 Sep 2018 22:13:02 -0500, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 1 Sep 2018 22:27:22 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> Gordon Ramsay knows what he's doing:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZcoTQuYUqQ
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> They didn't show the color inside when he cut it, which means he
>> ****ed it up.
>>
>> Cold steaks are not going to warm up on the inside being out the
>> fridge for only 20 minutes. That's only enough time to increase the
>> likelyhood of the problem he supposedly trying to avoid (overdone
>> outside, raw inside).
>>
>> -sw
>
> Agreed. Ramsay couldn't cook oatmeal.
> Very few of thoat TV personalities who call hemselves shef can
> cook anything.
>
This is why he his restaurant in London has held 3 Michelin stars since
2001, eh?

Jill

On 2018-09-03 12:35 AM, Druce wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Sep 2018 19:46:28 -0500, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 02 Sep 2018 10:37:39 -0400, Gary wrote:
>>
>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I wouldn't normally watch him though. From the few I have seen ... not the
>>>> nicest person in the world.
>>>
>>> I've seen nice Gordon. He just plays the mean chef on that one
>>> show.
>>
>> "That one show"? He's an asshole on all his shows. Andf he's an
>> asshole in real life, too.
>
> Of all the people in this newsgroup you're the most like Gordon
> Ramsay.
>
but without the Michelin awards:-)

On Mon, 3 Sep 2018 08:48:21 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 2018-09-03 12:35 AM, Druce wrote:
>> On Sun, 2 Sep 2018 19:46:28 -0500, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 02 Sep 2018 10:37:39 -0400, Gary wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I wouldn't normally watch him though. From the few I have seen ... not the
>>>>> nicest person in the world.
>>>>
>>>> I've seen nice Gordon. He just plays the mean chef on that one
>>>> show.
>>>
>>> "That one show"? He's an asshole on all his shows. Andf he's an
>>> asshole in real life, too.
>>
>> Of all the people in this newsgroup you're the most like Gordon
>> Ramsay.
>>
>but without the Michelin awards:-)

Awards are due to staff, not the owner.

IN that video demo, Ramsey turns the steak a number of times. I was always told by people whose
meals I,have enjoyed, that a steak should be turned only once.

????

N.

On Mon, 3 Sep 2018 15:28:21 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2 wrote:

> IN that video demo, Ramsey turns the steak a number of times. I was always told by people whose
> meals I,have enjoyed, that a steak should be turned only once.

I've always done that, too (flip once only). but I didn't mention
it since I've heard of doing it both ways and there seems to be a
professional divide in that regard.

This article here from Serious Eats says that Ramsey is right on
that point. But he's wrong on three other things he did/said in
that video. Giving Ramsay a final score of a mere 25%. 3 Michelin
Stars, my ass!

https://www.seriouseats.com/2013/06/...ing-steak.html

-sw

On 9/3/2018 7:55 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Sep 2018 15:28:21 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2 wrote:
>
>> IN that video demo, Ramsey turns the steak a number of times. I was always told by people whose
>> meals I,have enjoyed, that a steak should be turned only once.
>
> I've always done that, too (flip once only). but I didn't mention
> it since I've heard of doing it both ways and there seems to be a
> professional divide in that regard.
>
> This article here from Serious Eats says that Ramsey is right on
> that point. But he's wrong on three other things he did/said in
> that video. Giving Ramsay a final score of a mere 25%. 3 Michelin
> Stars, my ass!
>
> https://www.seriouseats.com/2013/06/...ing-steak.html
>
> -sw
>

Possibly BS on both. Have you eaten a steak from either Ramsey or the
Serious Eats author? Then unless you have, how do you know one is right
and the other wrong. There are many ways to get from point A to point B

Try a steak from both and get back to us. The truth is in the eating.

I'll toss in another methis just for giggles
https://www.epicurious.com/expert-ad...-grill-article

On Monday, September 3, 2018 at 12:28:25 PM UTC-10, Nancy2 wrote:
> IN that video demo, Ramsey turns the steak a number of times. I was always told by people whose
> meals I,have enjoyed, that a steak should be turned only once.
>
> ????
>
> N.

I used to do that but these days, I've wised up. The problem with not turning the beef steak or pork chop is that you're overheating the side that's on the skillet and not allowing enough time for the heat to be properly distributed towards the center of the meat. This tends to result in a steak that's overdone on the outside and not cooked enough in the middle.

The proper way to fry a steak is to start out with high heat. Quickly brown one side and flip. Fry for a few seconds or so and turn the heat down and continue to fry at low heat. Turn the steak about every minute or so. The classic French method of frying a steak would be to brown the meat and then finishing it off in the oven. I've found that this is unnecessary. If you do this correctly, the steak will almost look like it's be cooked sous vide.

https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...PG4Yrmho3ZpDWb

Frying a pork chop this way is even more important and allows you to get a perfectly fried, juicy, chop in a short time.

https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...wWiiH3MrnI9T4g

On Mon, 3 Sep 2018 20:24:19 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> On 9/3/2018 7:55 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Mon, 3 Sep 2018 15:28:21 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2 wrote:
>>
>>> IN that video demo, Ramsey turns the steak a number of times. I was always told by people whose
>>> meals I,have enjoyed, that a steak should be turned only once.
>>
>> I've always done that, too (flip once only). but I didn't mention
>> it since I've heard of doing it both ways and there seems to be a
>> professional divide in that regard.
>>
>> This article here from Serious Eats says that Ramsey is right on
>> that point. But he's wrong on three other things he did/said in
>> that video. Giving Ramsay a final score of a mere 25%. 3 Michelin
>> Stars, my ass!
>>
>> https://www.seriouseats.com/2013/06/...ing-steak.html
>>
>> -sw
>>
>
> Possibly BS on both. Have you eaten a steak from either Ramsey or the
> Serious Eats author? Then unless you have, how do you know one is right
> and the other wrong. There are many ways to get from point A to point B
>
> Try a steak from both and get back to us. The truth is in the eating.

I have used 100+ techniques and recipes from Serious Eats and have
found their information 99% accurate. They test the theories
several ways and publish the science and results that back up their
assertions. Hundreds of thousands of others also have the same
opinion. There's even a SeriousEats reddit group where Kenji and
his friends often contribute (https://reddit.com/r/seriouseats/), as
well a newly opened and highly acclaimed restaurant (not a
pretentious fine dining restaurant), and a highly acclaimed
cookbook.

And on that 1% occasion I completely disagreed with their method
(boiling an egg), they came back a couple-few years later and said,
"You know what? We were totally wrong!" This is how you boil and
egg:

https://www.seriouseats.com/2014/05/...iled-eggs.html
(They used to have both old and new articles, but have purged the
previous false info)

OTOH, all you get with Ramsey is "This is how you do it and **** you
there is no other way" with no explanation, and much of which are
just brain farts of his. Especially the shit he spouts on his shows
jsut for "entertainment purposes".

Yes, Gordon Ramsey has a bunch of books. All of them cookie-cutter
books that are 95% written by somebody else - practically all
recipes, and Zero explanations and science. How many of his books do
you own and treasure? Does anybody here (except Graham) have a
Ramsay book they adore? Even Rachel Ray's books are better.

So I think I'll trust the tried and true Serious Eats. And Ramsay
can kiss my pearly white ass with his thin-skinned alcoholic lips
and his veneered rotten Scottish teeth.

-sw

On Mon, 3 Sep 2018 23:01:57 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>I have used 100+ techniques and recipes from Serious Eats and have
>found their information 99% accurate. They test the theories
>several ways and publish the science and results that back up their
>assertions. Hundreds of thousands of others also have the same
>opinion. There's even a SeriousEats reddit group where Kenji and
>his friends often contribute (https://reddit.com/r/seriouseats/), as
>well a newly opened and highly acclaimed restaurant (not a
>pretentious fine dining restaurant), and a highly acclaimed
>cookbook.
>
>And on that 1% occasion I completely disagreed with their method
>(boiling an egg), they came back a couple-few years later and said,
>"You know what? We were totally wrong!" This is how you boil and
>egg:
>
>https://www.seriouseats.com/2014/05/...iled-eggs.html
>(They used to have both old and new articles, but have purged the
>previous false info)
>
>OTOH, all you get with Ramsey is "This is how you do it and **** you
>there is no other way" with no explanation, and much of which are
>just brain farts of his. Especially the shit he spouts on his shows
>jsut for "entertainment purposes".
>
>Yes, Gordon Ramsey has a bunch of books. All of them cookie-cutter
>books that are 95% written by somebody else - practically all
>recipes, and Zero explanations and science. How many of his books do
>you own and treasure? Does anybody here (except Graham) have a
>Ramsay book they adore? Even Rachel Ray's books are better.
>
>So I think I'll trust the tried and true Serious Eats. And Ramsay
>can kiss my pearly white ass with his thin-skinned alcoholic lips
>and his veneered rotten Scottish teeth.

So much hatred in one angry man. It must suck to be you.

On Monday, September 3, 2018 at 6:28:25 PM UTC-4, Nancy2 wrote:
> IN that video demo, Ramsey turns the steak a number of times. I was always told by people whose
> meals I,have enjoyed, that a steak should be turned only once.
>
> ????
>
> N.

Here's some experimentation on that subject:

<https://www.seriouseats.com/2013/07/the-food-lab-flip-your-steaks-and-burgers-multiple-times-for-better-results.html>

Cindy Hamilton

dsi1 wrote:

> On Monday, September 3, 2018 at 12:28:25 PM UTC-10, Nancy2 wrote:
> > IN that video demo, Ramsey turns the steak a number of times. I
> > was always told by people whose meals I,have enjoyed, that a steak
> > should be turned only once.
> >
> > ????
> >
> > N.
>
> I used to do that but these days, I've wised up. The problem with not
> turning the beef steak or pork chop is that you're overheating the
> side that's on the skillet and not allowing enough time for the heat
> to be properly distributed towards the center of the meat. This tends
> to result in a steak that's overdone on the outside and not cooked
> enough in the middle.
>
> The proper way to fry a steak is to start out with high heat. Quickly
> brown one side and flip. Fry for a few seconds or so and turn the
> heat down and continue to fry at low heat. Turn the steak about every
> minute or so. The classic French method of frying a steak would be to
> brown the meat and then finishing it off in the oven. I've found that
> this is unnecessary. If you do this correctly, the steak will almost
> look like it's be cooked sous vide.
>
>
https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...PG4Yrmho3ZpDWb
>
> Frying a pork chop this way is even more important and allows you to
> get a perfectly fried, juicy, chop in a short time.
>
>
https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...wWiiH3MrnI9T4g

Thats one overcooked bt of pork....

05 Sep 2018 "cshenk" wrote:
>dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> Frying a pork chop this way is even more important and allows you to
>> get a perfectly fried, juicy, chop in a short time.
>>
>https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...wWiiH3MrnI9T4g
>
>Thats one overcooked bt of pork....

Appears to be breaded, best baked.