http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...-declares.html

On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 11:52:12 PM UTC-4, Druce wrote:
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...-declares.html

I don't love Roundup, but I use it. I don't expect I'll get cancer from
a little spraying a couple times per summer. That's a far cry from being
a groundskeeper and contacting it nearly every day. The dose makes the
poison.

Cindy Hamilton

On 8/11/2018 5:42 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 11:52:12 PM UTC-4, Druce wrote:
>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...-declares.html
> I don't love Roundup, but I use it. I don't expect I'll get cancer from
> a little spraying a couple times per summer. That's a far cry from being
> a groundskeeper and contacting it nearly every day. The dose makes the
> poison.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

Â* I refuse to allow it on my property , and have asked the neighbors
not to use it because of the bees . They get a sub-lethal dose when they
forage on contaminated plants , and some research has tied it to colony
collapse disorder . Fortunately we live in an area that has no monocrop
agribusinesses , which minimizes the risk . Also , there was research
done in Germany I think it was , pigs that were fed feeds that were
treated with glyphosate exhibited serious digestive system problems -
lesions , growths , etc plus a bunch of other health issues . I'd post a
link but that was a few years ago and I don't remember where I found the
research paper . Pigs that were fed uncontaminated feeds were just fine ...

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety .
Get off my lawn !

On Sat, 11 Aug 2018 03:42:08 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 11:52:12 PM UTC-4, Druce wrote:
>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...-declares.html
>
>I don't love Roundup, but I use it. I don't expect I'll get cancer from
>a little spraying a couple times per summer. That's a far cry from being
>a groundskeeper and contacting it nearly every day. The dose makes the
>poison.

Yes. Nevertheless, why would you use it in the context of food.

On Saturday, August 11, 2018 at 7:50:07 AM UTC-4, Druce wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Aug 2018 03:42:08 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 11:52:12 PM UTC-4, Druce wrote:
> >> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...-declares.html
> >
> >I don't love Roundup, but I use it. I don't expect I'll get cancer from
> >a little spraying a couple times per summer. That's a far cry from being
> >a groundskeeper and contacting it nearly every day. The dose makes the
> >poison.
>
> Yes. Nevertheless, why would you use it in the context of food.

I don't. Farmers use it because it reduces their costs.

Cindy Hamilton

On 8/11/2018 8:51 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Saturday, August 11, 2018 at 7:50:07 AM UTC-4, Druce wrote:
>> On Sat, 11 Aug 2018 03:42:08 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 11:52:12 PM UTC-4, Druce wrote:
>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...-declares.html
>>>
>>> I don't love Roundup, but I use it. I don't expect I'll get cancer from
>>> a little spraying a couple times per summer. That's a far cry from being
>>> a groundskeeper and contacting it nearly every day. The dose makes the
>>> poison.
>>
>> Yes. Nevertheless, why would you use it in the context of food.
>
> I don't. Farmers use it because it reduces their costs.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
True, and the court case was about a groundskeeper who worked for a
school district, he wasn't spraying crops.

Jill

On Sat, 11 Aug 2018 05:51:09 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Saturday, August 11, 2018 at 7:50:07 AM UTC-4, Druce wrote:
>> On Sat, 11 Aug 2018 03:42:08 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 11:52:12 PM UTC-4, Druce wrote:
>> >> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...-declares.html
>> >
>> >I don't love Roundup, but I use it. I don't expect I'll get cancer from
>> >a little spraying a couple times per summer. That's a far cry from being
>> >a groundskeeper and contacting it nearly every day. The dose makes the
>> >poison.
>>
>> Yes. Nevertheless, why would you use it in the context of food.
>
>I don't. Farmers use it because it reduces their costs.

No shit, Sherlock.

On Saturday, August 11, 2018 at 7:51:13 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Saturday, August 11, 2018 at 7:50:07 AM UTC-4, Druce wrote:
> > On Sat, 11 Aug 2018 03:42:08 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 11:52:12 PM UTC-4, Druce wrote:
> > >> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...-declares.html
> > >
> > >I don't love Roundup, but I use it. I don't expect I'll get cancer from
> > >a little spraying a couple times per summer. That's a far cry from being
> > >a groundskeeper and contacting it nearly every day. The dose makes the
> > >poison.
> >
> > Yes. Nevertheless, why would you use it in the context of food.
>
> I don't. Farmers use it because it reduces their costs.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

Oh WHAAAA! POISON is NOT something we should sprays on our foods!

How many $$ is people's HEALTH worth to you? I mean other than yourself, which I KNOW is your FAVE person in the world!

John Kuthe...

John Kuthe...

On Saturday, August 11, 2018 at 8:20:19 PM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Saturday, August 11, 2018 at 7:51:13 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Saturday, August 11, 2018 at 7:50:07 AM UTC-4, Druce wrote:
> > > On Sat, 11 Aug 2018 03:42:08 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 11:52:12 PM UTC-4, Druce wrote:
> > > >> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...-declares.html
> > > >
> > > >I don't love Roundup, but I use it. I don't expect I'll get cancer from
> > > >a little spraying a couple times per summer. That's a far cry from being
> > > >a groundskeeper and contacting it nearly every day. The dose makes the
> > > >poison.
> > >
> > > Yes. Nevertheless, why would you use it in the context of food.
> >
> > I don't. Farmers use it because it reduces their costs.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
>
> Oh WHAAAA! POISON is NOT something we should sprays on our foods!
>
> How many $$ is people's HEALTH worth to you?

It doesn't matter what other people's health is worth to me. What matters
is how much it's worth to them. Considering the popularity of appallingly
crap food, it's not worth a plugged nickel to most people.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2018-08-11 4:42 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 11:52:12 PM UTC-4, Druce wrote:
>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...-declares.html
>
> I don't love Roundup, but I use it. I don't expect I'll get cancer from
> a little spraying a couple times per summer. That's a far cry from being
> a groundskeeper and contacting it nearly every day. The dose makes the
> poison.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
OTOH, were there any scientists on the jury? A competent lawyer could
convince a jury that homeopathy is scientifically valid.

On 8/11/2018 8:52 AM, graham wrote:
> On 2018-08-11 4:42 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 11:52:12 PM UTC-4, Druce wrote:
>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...-declares.html
>>>
>>
>> I don't love Roundup, but I use it.Â* I don't expect I'll get cancer from
>> a little spraying a couple times per summer.Â* That's a far cry from being
>> a groundskeeper and contacting it nearly every day.Â* The dose makes the
>> poison.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
> OTOH, were there any scientists on the jury? A competent lawyerÂ* could
> convince a jury that homeopathy is scientifically valid.

I don't know about the jury, but Monsanto likely had an army of lawyers.

Jill

On 2018-08-11 9:02 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 8/11/2018 8:52 AM, graham wrote:

>> OTOH, were there any scientists on the jury? A competent lawyerÂ* could
>> convince a jury that homeopathy is scientifically valid.
>
> I don't know about the jury, but Monsanto likely had an army of lawyers.

True. They are the company who sued a Canadian farmer for using their
Roundup resistant product without paying the licensing fee. He never
bought their product, but it was growing on his property. He felt that
he was entitled to plant the seeds from the crop he harvested on his
property. If I ran the world, I would have allowed him to sue Monsanto
for not controlling their product and allowing it to contaminate other
farmers' fields.

On 2018-08-11 9:07 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-08-11 9:02 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 8/11/2018 8:52 AM, graham wrote:
>
>>> OTOH, were there any scientists on the jury? A competent lawyer
>>> could convince a jury that homeopathy is scientifically valid.
>>
>> I don't know about the jury, but Monsanto likely had an army of lawyers.
>
> True.Â* They are the company who sued a Canadian farmer for using their
> Roundup resistant product without paying the licensing fee.Â* He never
> bought their product, but it was growing on his property. He felt that
> he was entitled to plant the seeds from the crop he harvested on his
> property.Â* If I ran the world,Â* I would have allowed him to sue Monsanto
> for not controlling their product and allowing it to contaminate other
> farmers' fields.

He maintained that the *seed* had blown in from a neighbour. Yeah,
right! He'd grown it before and knew that it was a licensed product.
This was one case where I was on Monsanto's side, not that I approve of
the company, which is now owned by Bayer.

On Sat, 11 Aug 2018 11:07:36 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2018-08-11 9:02 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 8/11/2018 8:52 AM, graham wrote:
>
>>> OTOH, were there any scientists on the jury? A competent lawyer* could
>>> convince a jury that homeopathy is scientifically valid.
>>
>> I don't know about the jury, but Monsanto likely had an army of lawyers.
>
>True. They are the company who sued a Canadian farmer for using their
>Roundup resistant product without paying the licensing fee. He never
>bought their product, but it was growing on his property. He felt that
>he was entitled to plant the seeds from the crop he harvested on his
>property. If I ran the world, I would have allowed him to sue Monsanto
>for not controlling their product and allowing it to contaminate other
>farmers' fields.

Yes. Monsanto is evil.

On Sat, 11 Aug 2018 06:52:15 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 2018-08-11 4:42 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 11:52:12 PM UTC-4, Druce wrote:
>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...-declares.html
>>
>> I don't love Roundup, but I use it. I don't expect I'll get cancer from
>> a little spraying a couple times per summer. That's a far cry from being
>> a groundskeeper and contacting it nearly every day. The dose makes the
>> poison.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>OTOH, were there any scientists on the jury? A competent lawyer could
>convince a jury that homeopathy is scientifically valid.

Maybe it is. Just because you're phobic about homeopathy, salt and
religion doesn't mean anything. Other people are phobic about spiders.
To each their own.

On 2018-08-11 12:29 PM, Druce wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Aug 2018 06:52:15 -0600, graham > wrote:
>
>> On 2018-08-11 4:42 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 11:52:12 PM UTC-4, Druce wrote:
>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...-declares.html
>>>
>>> I don't love Roundup, but I use it. I don't expect I'll get cancer from
>>> a little spraying a couple times per summer. That's a far cry from being
>>> a groundskeeper and contacting it nearly every day. The dose makes the
>>> poison.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>> OTOH, were there any scientists on the jury? A competent lawyer could
>> convince a jury that homeopathy is scientifically valid.
>
> Maybe it is. Just because you're phobic about homeopathy, salt and
> religion doesn't mean anything. Other people are phobic about spiders.
> To each their own.
>
You are really obtuse this afternoon!

graham wrote:

> On 2018-08-11 12:29 PM, Druce wrote:
> > On Sat, 11 Aug 2018 06:52:15 -0600, graham > wrote:
> >
> >> On 2018-08-11 4:42 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>> On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 11:52:12 PM UTC-4, Druce wrote:
> >>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...-declares.html
> >>>
> >>> I don't love Roundup, but I use it. I don't expect I'll get cancer from
> >>> a little spraying a couple times per summer. That's a far cry from being
> >>> a groundskeeper and contacting it nearly every day. The dose makes the
> >>> poison.
> >>>
> >>> Cindy Hamilton
> >>>
> >> OTOH, were there any scientists on the jury? A competent lawyer could
> >> convince a jury that homeopathy is scientifically valid.
> >
> > Maybe it is. Just because you're phobic about homeopathy, salt and
> > religion doesn't mean anything. Other people are phobic about spiders.
> > To each their own.
> >
> You are really obtuse this afternoon!


LOL, graham...*just* "this afternoon"...???

;-D


--
Best
Greg

On Saturday, August 11, 2018 at 2:52:18 AM UTC-10, graham wrote:
> OTOH, were there any scientists on the jury? A competent lawyer could
> convince a jury that homeopathy is scientifically valid.

As we all know, science tends to make people's head spin and makes them dizzy.

Aug 2018, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>August 10, 2018 Druce wrote:
>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...-declares.html
>
>I don't love Roundup, but I use it. I don't expect I'll get cancer from
>a little spraying a couple times per summer. That's a far cry from being
>a groundskeeper and contacting it nearly every day. The dose makes the
>poison.

I use Roundup, the thing is to use it properly. Most people over use
it, they mix a much stronger solution than what is necessary and they
use it indescriminately by spraying much wider areas than what are
needed. I've discovered that it works well at half strength when one
follows the directions to use it on dry, hot, sunny days. I use
roundup in small corners that are inaccessable to a push nmower or a
string trimmer, like under my diesel tank/propane tanks and for the
small cracks in my blacktop driveway. I suppose I could use a flame
thrower but I'm reluctant around fuel tanks and blacktop.

I bought a gallon of concentrate 16 years ago and still there's half
remaining. I'm very cautious with spraying defoliant and insectide
for Japanese beetles. I wear protective clothing and a respirator. I
use Roundup once a year, Sevin for Japanese beetles as needed, maybe
every four years. In fact I just ordered a new sprayer for Roundup
from Amazon as the old one was begining to seep at the hose fittings.
We have two sprayers, one for Roundup and one for Sevin. Two gallon
sprayers are inexpensive, safer to replace than use leakers.
This arrived three days ago and works great.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Remember, use Roundup on hot dry days and at half strength.

On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 10:52:12 PM UTC-5, Druce wrote:
>
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...-declares.html
>
>
Lorsaban by Roundup to control pests on crops.

On Sat, 11 Aug 2018 10:07:13 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 10:52:12 PM UTC-5, Druce wrote:
>>
>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...-declares.html
>>
>>
>Lorsaban by Roundup to control pests on crops.

"We need a pesticide to maximise our profit. Let's use something that
may give people cancer."

And people just eat that stuff. It's a wondrous world, isn't it?

I once tried it and it made the weeds look sick but they never did die.

On Mon, 13 Aug 2018 04:06:23 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

>I once tried it and it made the weeds look sick but they never did die.

I used it years ago, 1970s, on a concrete driveway we had at the time.
I could apply it to the cracks with a watering can and an hour later
the weeds had all caved over and were completely dead by the next day.

No, I think I used weed be gone.

On 8/10/2018 9:52 PM, Druce wrote:

> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...-declares.html

This jes in:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...tandhp#image=1

****OR****

https://tinyurl.com/yc895wx9

Gotta get them kids in there, somehow!

nb