On 2018-04-29 7:31 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/29/2018 9:02 PM, graham wrote:
tp://www.nealcommunities.com/home-finder/silverleaf/liberty-2/
>>>
>> I've just been looking at houses with the aim of downsizing. Aren't
>> you a bit optimistic about an October possession if they have yet to
>> start?
>
> The house next door is supposed to be September and the lot is in the
> same condition.Â* They have put in water, sewer, gas lines. I guess they
> will fine tune the date as things progress.Â* We'll see.
>
> Starting to get rid of "stuff" we've accumulated after 37 years in our
> present house.

I've done some of that. I still have a great deal of technical
literature that needs to be disposed of. The trouble is that younger
people in my profession want it all on the computer rather than in hard
copy.
I've always been a bit of a hoarder in great contrast to my sister! My
shredder was working hard this evening:-)
Graham

On 2018-04-29 8:17 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 4/29/2018 8:55 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 4/29/2018 7:50 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>> On 4/29/2018 6:55 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>>>> Yep, no more snow for me.Â* This morning I checked the lot where my
>>>> house is going to be built.Â* We should be in it in October.
>>>
>>> Congratulations!
>
>> Thanks.Â* We just got here (Florida) this morning.Â* We will be picking
>> out cabinets, tile, counter top, etc.Â* Next trip should be the last
>> one. Â*Â*It is amazing how it has worked for my wife, one big reason for
>> the move.Â* She feels better, looks better, walks more.Â* No more stairs
>> too.
>
> That's the best reason of all, I'm very happy for you.
>>
>> http://www.nealcommunities.com/home-...eaf/liberty-2/
>
> Beautiful.Â* Very exciting.
>
> So can I have your snow blower?Â* (laugh)
>
> nancy
You can laugh! The heavier than usual snowfall this past winter (I still
have some in the back yard) has prompted me to look at condos where all
that is taken care of, along with the grass.

On Sunday, April 29, 2018 at 5:37:42 PM UTC-10, graham wrote:
>
> I've done some of that. I still have a great deal of technical
> literature that needs to be disposed of. The trouble is that younger
> people in my profession want it all on the computer rather than in hard
> copy.
> I've always been a bit of a hoarder in great contrast to my sister! My
> shredder was working hard this evening:-)
> Graham

My mother-in-law allowed her husband one room in the condo to keep his crap.. Mostly it was related to his computer work. There were computer equipment, documentation, manuals, 1/2" tapes and other magnetic media, and boxes of printouts. IBM loved to churn out big blue binders! They're probably still doing it today.

When he died, we took all that stuff to the dump. Parents should not force their survivors to do this awful task!

On Sunday, April 29, 2018 at 8:04:00 PM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-04-29 6:55 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 4/29/2018 4:23 PM, Bruce wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I'd avoid any city. And I've seen enough snow for the rest of my life.
> >> I want blue skies and sun.
> >>
> >
> > Yep, no more snow for me.Â* This morning I checked the lot where my house
> > is going to be built.Â* We should be in it in October.
>
> This morning I got out of bed and looked out the window at my lawn that
> has suddenly turned green and.... what???? snow???? It didn't amount to
> anything but still..... snow on April 29th?

Detroit had a six-inch snowfall on 9 May 1923. You can google for record
late snowfalls closer to your locatin.

Cindy Hamilton

On 4/29/2018 11:39 PM, graham wrote:
> On 2018-04-29 8:17 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>> On 4/29/2018 8:55 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>>> Thanks.Â* We just got here (Florida) this morning.Â* We will be picking
>>> out cabinets, tile, counter top, etc.Â* Next trip should be the last
>>> one. Â*Â*It is amazing how it has worked for my wife, one big reason
>>> for the move.Â* She feels better, looks better, walks more.Â* No more
>>> stairs too.
>>
>> That's the best reason of all, I'm very happy for you.
>>>
>>> http://www.nealcommunities.com/home-...eaf/liberty-2/
>>
>> Beautiful.Â* Very exciting.
>>
>> So can I have your snow blower?Â* (laugh)

> You can laugh! The heavier than usual snowfall this past winter (I still
> have some in the back yard) has prompted me to look at condos where all
> that is taken care of, along with the grass.

I hear ya. We don't generally get so much snow we can't handle it
but it gets old clearing the driveway and it's not getting any
easier.

When I say clearing the driveway, I shovel a path to the car.
Motto: It's Good Enough.

nancy

On 2018-04-29 11:37 PM, graham wrote:
> On 2018-04-29 7:31 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> I've done some of that. I still have a great deal of technical
> literature that needs to be disposed of. The trouble is that younger
> people in my profession want it all on the computer rather than in hard
> copy.

Maybe you could pawn them off on that guy who is always flogging manuals
here.

> I've always been a bit of a hoarder in great contrast to my sister! My
> shredder was working hard this evening:-)


Ah.... shredding. That was what I did for my last three weeks of work. I
shredded up about ten years of my old court files, old training
literature and correspondence.

On 4/29/2018 9:31 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> Starting to get rid of "stuff" we've accumulated after 37 years in our
> present house.

After my ordeal of last year, I say even if you're not moving,
do your heirs a favor and get rid of your crap ... I mean, stuff ...
now. Hard to believe how much can pile up that you don't need
and haven't looked at in years.

nancy

On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 08:49:26 -0400, Nancy Young >
wrote:

>On 4/29/2018 11:39 PM, graham wrote:
>> On 2018-04-29 8:17 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>> On 4/29/2018 8:55 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>>>> Thanks.* We just got here (Florida) this morning.* We will be picking
>>>> out cabinets, tile, counter top, etc.* Next trip should be the last
>>>> one. **It is amazing how it has worked for my wife, one big reason
>>>> for the move.* She feels better, looks better, walks more.* No more
>>>> stairs too.
>>>
>>> That's the best reason of all, I'm very happy for you.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.nealcommunities.com/home-...eaf/liberty-2/
>>>
>>> Beautiful.* Very exciting.
>>>
>>> So can I have your snow blower?* (laugh)
>
>> You can laugh! The heavier than usual snowfall this past winter (I still
>> have some in the back yard) has prompted me to look at condos where all
>> that is taken care of, along with the grass.
>
>I hear ya. We don't generally get so much snow we can't handle it
>but it gets old clearing the driveway and it's not getting any
>easier.
>
>When I say clearing the driveway, I shovel a path to the car.
>Motto: It's Good Enough.
>
>nancy

Been here 15 years now and it still is like music to my ears to hear
the men out on the concrete fire escape steps shovelling the snow, and
also the lawn mowers - all good that I don't have to do it and with
car parked underground, I rarely have had to clear the windsheild
anymore.

On Sunday, April 29, 2018 at 4:01:07 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 12:36:59 -0700 (PDT), "Steve 'Cannabis Oil' Wertz"
> > wrote:
>
> >Bruce wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 12:07:14 -0400, wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 12:20:58 +1000, Bruce >
> >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>On Sat, 28 Apr 2018 22:07:18 -0400, wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>But then you'd live in California and that sucks.
> >> >>
> >> >>I think if I had to move to the US, I'd pick the Californian
> >> >>countryside. Seems to me that would beat all the snow and rain of the
> >> >>east coast. If I'd wanted that I'd have stayed in the Netherlands.
> >> >
> >> >The best parts of CA get lots of snow and rain
> >>
> >> Those parts need to be avoided at all costs.
> >
> >
> >NAY, that sort of weather screens out "the weaklings"...
>
> It's not weak to move to a nice climate. It's smart

Are you aware that insulting people and then putting a smiley
face after the insult does not, in fact, negate the insult?

Cindy Hamilton

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> Ah.... shredding. That was what I did for my last three weeks of work. I
> shredded up about ten years of my old court files, old training
> literature and correspondence.

I've had a shredder here for 20 years or so. I can understand
shredding personal documents with names and account numbers but I
don't understand why people feel the need to shred *everything*.
Most paperwork can just be tossed out with no worries if someone
else digs it out and reads.

dsi1 wrote:
>
> My mother-in-law allowed her husband one room in the condo to keep his crap. Mostly it was related to his computer work. There were computer equipment, documentation, manuals, 1/2" tapes and other magnetic media, and boxes of printouts. IBM loved to churn out big blue binders! They're probably still doing it today.
>
> When he died, we took all that stuff to the dump. Parents should not force their survivors to do this awful task!

I've seen many "final insurance" policy commercials on late night
tv. Funny too. One common one shows this old lady in a hospital
bed with her kids on each side of the bed. Here she is supposedly
dying and all she has to say is, "Thank goodness, I've got final
insurance for you two to bury me." And the adult kids are nodding
and smiling. Something like that and it cracks me up.

Next new policy to be offered might be "Final clean out Dad's
room" insurance. LOLOL

On 2018-04-30 7:13 AM, Gary wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> Ah.... shredding. That was what I did for my last three weeks of work. I
>> shredded up about ten years of my old court files, old training
>> literature and correspondence.
>
> I've had a shredder here for 20 years or so. I can understand
> shredding personal documents with names and account numbers but I
> don't understand why people feel the need to shred *everything*.
> Most paperwork can just be tossed out with no worries if someone
> else digs it out and reads.
>
I have reams and reams of confidential data that has to be destroyed.
Otherwise, I only shred the stuff that could be used to steal ones identity.

On 4/30/2018 9:17 AM, graham wrote:
> On 2018-04-30 7:13 AM, Gary wrote:

>> I've had a shredder here for 20 years or so. I can understand
>> shredding personal documents with names and account numbers but I
>> don't understand why people feel the need to shred *everything*.
>> Most paperwork can just be tossed out with no worries if someone
>> else digs it out and reads.
>>
> I have reams and reams of confidential data that has to be destroyed.
> Otherwise, I only shred the stuff that could be used to steal ones
> identity.

We have county shredding events, they have a truck parked (wherever)
and people line up in their cars to drop off bulk shredding. Not
that you were complaining but maybe you could get it done all at
once somewhere.

nancy

On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 09:13:49 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> Ah.... shredding. That was what I did for my last three weeks of work. I
>> shredded up about ten years of my old court files, old training
>> literature and correspondence.
>
>I've had a shredder here for 20 years or so. I can understand
>shredding personal documents with names and account numbers but I
>don't understand why people feel the need to shred *everything*.
>Most paperwork can just be tossed out with no worries if someone
>else digs it out and reads.

I'd never bothered until I moved here and went to the garbage room
with recycling stuff and someone had put a bag in the shute and it
broke on its way down to the dumpster - cancelled cheques, all sorts
of private stuff lying on the floor. That's the day I bought a
shredder!

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 4/30/2018 9:17 AM, graham wrote:
>> On 2018-04-30 7:13 AM, Gary wrote:
>
>>> I've had a shredder here for 20 years or so. I can understand
>>> shredding personal documents with names and account numbers but I
>>> don't understand why people feel the need to shred *everything*.
>>> Most paperwork can just be tossed out with no worries if someone
>>> else digs it out and reads.
>>>
>> I have reams and reams of confidential data that has to be destroyed.
>> Otherwise, I only shred the stuff that could be used to steal ones
>> identity.
>
> We have county shredding events, they have a truck parked (wherever)
> and people line up in their cars to drop off bulk shredding. Not
> that you were complaining but maybe you could get it done all at
> once somewhere.
>
> nancy



They do it where I am too, was very handy when we were in business, now I
just shred the things that I don't want seen and use the shreds in compost.

Cheri

On 4/30/2018 9:03 AM, wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 08:49:26 -0400, Nancy Young >
> wrote:

>> I hear ya. We don't generally get so much snow we can't handle it
>> but it gets old clearing the driveway and it's not getting any
>> easier.

> Been here 15 years now and it still is like music to my ears to hear
> the men out on the concrete fire escape steps shovelling the snow, and
> also the lawn mowers - all good that I don't have to do it and with
> car parked underground, I rarely have had to clear the windsheild
> anymore.

Some time ago I read a diatribe about seniors moving to communities,
it really annoyed the author that it's not like Mayberry, I guess,
where Aunt Millie would bake cookies and little Timmy would mow
her grass and she'd teach him life lessons.

Hello, no one's here to shovel my driveway and Timmy isn't going
to mow my lawn, if we don't want to do it, we'd have to hire a
service.

You seem like you have a great place to live. If I was going to
move it would be to find a one level house with a smaller yard.

And a lawn service.

nancy

Nancy Young wrote:
>
> On 4/29/2018 9:31 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> > Starting to get rid of "stuff" we've accumulated after 37 years in our
> > present house.
>
> After my ordeal of last year, I say even if you're not moving,
> do your heirs a favor and get rid of your crap ... I mean, stuff ...
> now. Hard to believe how much can pile up that you don't need
> and haven't looked at in years.


One tip I read once...of all the things you hoard, if you haven't
bothered with it after a year, you can just toss it and most
times you won't miss it.

Almost 30 years here. I'm constantly trying to eliminate most
things, but once I start going through them all they are either:
- special to me personally, hate to toss them
- worth a little something, hate to toss or give them away
I could sell them off very cheap.

It really is hard to get rid of old collected things.
I'm still trying. I'm considering moving within the next
year or more. I would just like to get rid of most things
so when I do decide to move I can keep it minimal.
but it's pretty darn hard to do as I'm sure most people
realize.

My daughter still has many things here and also many things of
mine that are her's whenever she wants them. But I've also told
her that as long as I stay in this place, no hurry for her to
come and get them.

I'm not cluttered here but I would like to progressively start
trimming down all my belongings just to make moving easier if and
when I decide to. Doing so though is not so easy to do.

On 2018-04-30 8:57 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 4/29/2018 9:31 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> Starting to get rid of "stuff" we've accumulated after 37 years in our
>> present house.
>
> After my ordeal of last year, I say even if you're not moving,
> do your heirs a favor and get rid of your crap ... I mean, stuff ...
> now.Â* Hard to believe how much can pile up that you don't need
> and haven't looked at in years.

When my mother sold her house my three brothers and I had to sort
through stuff. Dad was a bit of a pack rat and there was a lot of good
stuff that we each brought home, but I also made several trips to the
dump in my van, fully loaded each time. It was a lot less work to
clear out my mother's condo about 6 years later. She had already
downsized to move into the one bedroom unit and, being pretty well
housebound, she did not accumulate much more.

On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 09:41:26 -0400, Nancy Young >
wrote:

>On 4/30/2018 9:03 AM, wrote:
>> On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 08:49:26 -0400, Nancy Young >
>> wrote:
>
>>> I hear ya. We don't generally get so much snow we can't handle it
>>> but it gets old clearing the driveway and it's not getting any
>>> easier.
>
>> Been here 15 years now and it still is like music to my ears to hear
>> the men out on the concrete fire escape steps shovelling the snow, and
>> also the lawn mowers - all good that I don't have to do it and with
>> car parked underground, I rarely have had to clear the windsheild
>> anymore.
>
>Some time ago I read a diatribe about seniors moving to communities,
>it really annoyed the author that it's not like Mayberry, I guess,
>where Aunt Millie would bake cookies and little Timmy would mow
>her grass and she'd teach him life lessons.
>
>Hello, no one's here to shovel my driveway and Timmy isn't going
>to mow my lawn, if we don't want to do it, we'd have to hire a
>service.
>
>You seem like you have a great place to live. If I was going to
>move it would be to find a one level house with a smaller yard.
>
>And a lawn service.
>
>nancy

That would work, you wouldn't choose the house now as you did back
when. I looked at a nice townhouse and then did not offer thinking to
myself why would I buy another place with stairs

On 2018-04-30 9:36 AM, wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 09:13:49 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>
> I'd never bothered until I moved here and went to the garbage room
> with recycling stuff and someone had put a bag in the shute and it
> broke on its way down to the dumpster - cancelled cheques, all sorts
> of private stuff lying on the floor. That's the day I bought a
> shredder!
>

I had an eye opener at a friend's place when Bob the hay guy delivered a
load of hay. He was telling us all the dirt on everyone around and said
that his new neighbour was a junkie. Asked how he knew that, he said
there were empty methadone boxes in his garbage. I asked him if he
looked through his neighbour's garbage and he said he had. And he would
admit that? Sure.

On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 09:50:27 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>> On 4/29/2018 9:31 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> > Starting to get rid of "stuff" we've accumulated after 37 years in our
>> > present house.
>>
>> After my ordeal of last year, I say even if you're not moving,
>> do your heirs a favor and get rid of your crap ... I mean, stuff ...
>> now. Hard to believe how much can pile up that you don't need
>> and haven't looked at in years.
>
>
>One tip I read once...of all the things you hoard, if you haven't
>bothered with it after a year, you can just toss it and most
>times you won't miss it.
>
>Almost 30 years here. I'm constantly trying to eliminate most
>things, but once I start going through them all they are either:
>- special to me personally, hate to toss them
>- worth a little something, hate to toss or give them away
> I could sell them off very cheap.
>
>It really is hard to get rid of old collected things.
>I'm still trying. I'm considering moving within the next
>year or more. I would just like to get rid of most things
>so when I do decide to move I can keep it minimal.
>but it's pretty darn hard to do as I'm sure most people
>realize.
>
>My daughter still has many things here and also many things of
>mine that are her's whenever she wants them. But I've also told
>her that as long as I stay in this place, no hurry for her to
>come and get them.
>
>I'm not cluttered here but I would like to progressively start
>trimming down all my belongings just to make moving easier if and
>when I decide to. Doing so though is not so easy to do.

I have a lot of family things here and I have gone round with my
daughters and explained the origin of everything, so in time it's
their choice whether to toss or keep. I also pointed out what they
should sell if not interested, they were surprised at a couple of
things when I mentioned the value, so it is good to keep them in the
loop.

On 4/30/2018 9:50 AM, Gary wrote:
> Nancy Young wrote:

>> After my ordeal of last year, I say even if you're not moving,
>> do your heirs a favor and get rid of your crap ... I mean, stuff ...
>> now. Hard to believe how much can pile up that you don't need
>> and haven't looked at in years.
>
>
> One tip I read once...of all the things you hoard, if you haven't
> bothered with it after a year, you can just toss it and most
> times you won't miss it.

It's pretty well true.

> Almost 30 years here. I'm constantly trying to eliminate most
> things, but once I start going through them all they are either:
> - special to me personally, hate to toss them
> - worth a little something, hate to toss or give them away
> I could sell them off very cheap.

Then do it! People seem to think their stuff is worth a lot
more than it is. You think it's a money maker? Sell it! Then
you'll know.

I don't toss stuff that has some meaning to me. I'm not
a minimalist.

What's really funny is that people will pay a fortune to store
their stuff somewhere. It would cost 20 bucks to replace so let
me spend $150 a month to keep it.

> It really is hard to get rid of old collected things.
> I'm still trying. I'm considering moving within the next
> year or more. I would just like to get rid of most things
> so when I do decide to move I can keep it minimal.
> but it's pretty darn hard to do as I'm sure most people
> realize.

My trigger is when I have a hard time finding something, or
can't fit something in a closet/wherever. Everything comes
out and only what I really use or want goes back in.

If I moved far enough away, I'd get rid of about everything.
I sure wouldn't move stuff like books unless they're collectible.

> My daughter still has many things here and also many things of
> mine that are her's whenever she wants them. But I've also told
> her that as long as I stay in this place, no hurry for her to
> come and get them.

Yeah, that's what my mother told my brothers. I had to get
a 40 yard dumpster and 4 strong men to get rid of it all.

> I'm not cluttered here but I would like to progressively start
> trimming down all my belongings just to make moving easier if and
> when I decide to. Doing so though is not so easy to do.

I think you'd be surprised if you just started. Begin with a
drawer or two, then a closet. Or a shelf. Feels good to lighten
the load, so to speak.

nancy

On 2018-04-30 7:22 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 4/30/2018 9:17 AM, graham wrote:
>> On 2018-04-30 7:13 AM, Gary wrote:
>
>>> I've had a shredder here for 20 years or so. I can understand
>>> shredding personal documents with names and account numbers but I
>>> don't understand why people feel the need to shred *everything*.
>>> Most paperwork can just be tossed out with no worries if someone
>>> else digs it out and reads.
>>>
>> I have reams and reams of confidential data that has to be destroyed.
>> Otherwise, I only shred the stuff that could be used to steal ones
>> identity.
>
> We have county shredding events, they have a truck parked (wherever)
> and people line up in their cars to drop off bulk shredding.Â* Not
> that you were complaining but maybe you could get it done all at
> once somewhere.
>
> nancy
I did a couple of years ago when I had one major cull. I had to take it
to a commercial shredder as community events are restricted to modest
amounts of household stuff only.

"graham" > wrote in message
news
> On 2018-04-30 7:22 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>> On 4/30/2018 9:17 AM, graham wrote:
>>> On 2018-04-30 7:13 AM, Gary wrote:
>>
>>>> I've had a shredder here for 20 years or so. I can understand
>>>> shredding personal documents with names and account numbers but I
>>>> don't understand why people feel the need to shred *everything*.
>>>> Most paperwork can just be tossed out with no worries if someone
>>>> else digs it out and reads.
>>>>
>>> I have reams and reams of confidential data that has to be destroyed.
>>> Otherwise, I only shred the stuff that could be used to steal ones
>>> identity.
>>
>> We have county shredding events, they have a truck parked (wherever)
>> and people line up in their cars to drop off bulk shredding. Not
>> that you were complaining but maybe you could get it done all at
>> once somewhere.
>>
>> nancy
> I did a couple of years ago when I had one major cull. I had to take it to
> a commercial shredder as community events are restricted to modest amounts
> of household stuff only.


Here they allow you five banker boxes full, that's it.

Cheri

On 2018-04-30 10:22 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 4/30/2018 9:50 AM, Gary wrote:
>> Nancy Young wrote:
>
>>> After my ordeal of last year, I say even if you're not moving,
>>> do your heirs a favor and get rid of your crap ... I mean, stuff ...
>>> now.Â* Hard to believe how much can pile up that you don't need
>>> and haven't looked at in years.
>>
>>
>> One tip I read once...of all the things you hoard, if you haven't
>> bothered with it after a year, you can just toss it and most
>> times you won't miss it.
>
> It's pretty well true.
>
>> Almost 30 years here. I'm constantly trying to eliminate most
>> things, but once I start going through them all they are either:
>> - special to me personally, hate to toss them
>> - worth a little something, hate to toss or give them away
>> Â*Â* I could sell them off very cheap.
>
> Then do it!Â* People seem to think their stuff is worth a lot
> more than it is.Â* You think it's a money maker?Â* Sell it!Â* Then
> you'll know.
>
> I don't toss stuff that has some meaning to me.Â* I'm not
> a minimalist.
>
> What's really funny is that people will pay a fortune to store
> their stuff somewhere.Â* It would cost 20 bucks to replace so let
> me spend $150 a month to keep it.
>

Our former neighbours accumulated a lot of stuff in the short time they
lived next door. He was a handyman and has piles of lumber in the
garage. He even had a safe that weighed hundreds of pounds. He was
constantly working on the house, and she was out shopping for stuff. He
once bought something that he thought was a some sort of special tool
that, when he finally got around to using it for the special job turned
out to be something different.

The house was on the market for 3-4 years while they worked on their new
house about 350 miles north of here. He had a pickup truck and a trailer
and every week he would make a trip up there to move stuff and wok on
the house. There were just the two of them in a four bedroom house, a
double garage and to rented storage units.







>> It really is hard to get rid of old collected things.
>> I'm still trying.Â* I'm considering moving within the next
>> year or more. I would just like to get rid of most things
>> so when I do decide to move I can keep it minimal.
>> but it's pretty darn hard to do as I'm sure most people
>> realize.
>
> My trigger is when I have a hard time finding something, or
> can't fit something in a closet/wherever.Â* Everything comes
> out and only what I really use or want goes back in.
>
> If I moved far enough away, I'd get rid of about everything.
> I sure wouldn't move stuff like books unless they're collectible.
>
>> My daughter still has many things here and also many things of
>> mine that are her's whenever she wants them. But I've also told
>> her that as long as I stay in this place, no hurry for her to
>> come and get them.
>
> Yeah, that's what my mother told my brothers.Â* I had to get
> a 40 yard dumpster and 4 strong men to get rid of it all.
>
>> I'm not cluttered here but I would like to progressively start
>> trimming down all my belongings just to make moving easier if and
>> when I decide to. Doing so though is not so easy to do.
>
> I think you'd be surprised if you just started.Â* Begin with a
> drawer or two, then a closet.Â* Or a shelf.Â* Feels good to lighten
> the load, so to speak.
>
> nancy

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> On 4/29/2018 7:50 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> > On 4/29/2018 6:55 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >> On 4/29/2018 4:23 PM, Bruce wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I'd avoid any city. And I've seen enough snow for the rest of my life..
> >>> I want blue skies and sun.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Yep, no more snow for me.Â* This morning I checked the lot where my
> >> house is going to be built.Â* We should be in it in October.
> >
> > Congratulations!
> >
> > nancy
>
> Thanks. We just got here (Florida) this morning. We will be picking
> out cabinets, tile, counter top, etc. Next trip should be the last one.
> It is amazing how it has worked for my wife, one big reason for the
> move. She feels better, looks better, walks more. No more stairs too.
>
> http://www.nealcommunities.com/home-...eaf/liberty-2/


Very nice, Ed...

--
Best
Greg

On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 09:22:41 -0400, Nancy Young >
wrote:

>On 4/30/2018 9:17 AM, graham wrote:
>> On 2018-04-30 7:13 AM, Gary wrote:
>
>>> I've had a shredder here for 20 years or so. I can understand
>>> shredding personal documents with names and account numbers but I
>>> don't understand why people feel the need to shred *everything*.
>>> Most paperwork can just be tossed out with no worries if someone
>>> else digs it out and reads.
>>>
>> I have reams and reams of confidential data that has to be destroyed.
>> Otherwise, I only shred the stuff that could be used to steal ones
>> identity.
>
>We have county shredding events, they have a truck parked (wherever)
>and people line up in their cars to drop off bulk shredding. Not
>that you were complaining but maybe you could get it done all at
>once somewhere.
>
>nancy
we do too. You can leave 4 boxes of stuff to be shredded.Jam as much
into each box as you can and tape the lids down. The big commercial
shredder is right there shredding stuff as people drop stuff off.
Businesses have a legal duty to protect anything of a personal nature
for their customers.
Janet US

On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 08:05:50 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"graham" > wrote in message
>news
>> On 2018-04-30 7:22 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>> On 4/30/2018 9:17 AM, graham wrote:
>>>> On 2018-04-30 7:13 AM, Gary wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I've had a shredder here for 20 years or so. I can understand
>>>>> shredding personal documents with names and account numbers but I
>>>>> don't understand why people feel the need to shred *everything*.
>>>>> Most paperwork can just be tossed out with no worries if someone
>>>>> else digs it out and reads.
>>>>>
>>>> I have reams and reams of confidential data that has to be destroyed.
>>>> Otherwise, I only shred the stuff that could be used to steal ones
>>>> identity.
>>>
>>> We have county shredding events, they have a truck parked (wherever)
>>> and people line up in their cars to drop off bulk shredding. Not
>>> that you were complaining but maybe you could get it done all at
>>> once somewhere.
>>>
>>> nancy
>> I did a couple of years ago when I had one major cull. I had to take it to
>> a commercial shredder as community events are restricted to modest amounts
>> of household stuff only.
>
>
>Here they allow you five banker boxes full, that's it.
>
>Cheri
last time I checked the business that does shredding charged $120 for
15 legal boxes of paper.
Janet US

On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 09:01:11 -0700 (PDT), "Steve 'Cannabis Oil' Wertz"
> wrote:

>Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> On 4/29/2018 7:50 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>> > On 4/29/2018 6:55 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> >> On 4/29/2018 4:23 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> I'd avoid any city. And I've seen enough snow for the rest of my life.
>> >>> I want blue skies and sun.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Yep, no more snow for me.* This morning I checked the lot where my
>> >> house is going to be built.* We should be in it in October.
>> >
>> > Congratulations!
>> >
>> > nancy
>>
>> Thanks. We just got here (Florida) this morning. We will be picking
>> out cabinets, tile, counter top, etc. Next trip should be the last one.
>> It is amazing how it has worked for my wife, one big reason for the
>> move. She feels better, looks better, walks more. No more stairs too.
>>
>> http://www.nealcommunities.com/home-...eaf/liberty-2/
>
>
>Very nice, Ed...

I spent a year living in a place like that, a gated community on long
Island. At first I liked it but very soon discovered it was noisy and
offered no privacy, pretty much like living in a NYC apartment
building only more sprawled out, but still the units are very close
together. I would strongly suggest that anyone who has lived in a
private house most of their life to rent a unit in one of those
communities for about a year to see what it's all about before
commiting. One thing I discovered is about half those units are
rentals, neighbors are very transient.

On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 10:20:23 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 09:22:41 -0400, Nancy Young >
>wrote:
>
>>On 4/30/2018 9:17 AM, graham wrote:
>>> On 2018-04-30 7:13 AM, Gary wrote:
>>
>>>> I've had a shredder here for 20 years or so. I can understand
>>>> shredding personal documents with names and account numbers but I
>>>> don't understand why people feel the need to shred *everything*.
>>>> Most paperwork can just be tossed out with no worries if someone
>>>> else digs it out and reads.
>>>>
>>> I have reams and reams of confidential data that has to be destroyed.
>>> Otherwise, I only shred the stuff that could be used to steal ones
>>> identity.
>>
>>We have county shredding events, they have a truck parked (wherever)
>>and people line up in their cars to drop off bulk shredding. Not
>>that you were complaining but maybe you could get it done all at
>>once somewhere.
>>
>>nancy
>we do too. You can leave 4 boxes of stuff to be shredded.Jam as much
>into each box as you can and tape the lids down. The big commercial
>shredder is right there shredding stuff as people drop stuff off.
>Businesses have a legal duty to protect anything of a personal nature
>for their customers.
>Janet US

We shred daily as needed, never accumulates.
We bought this about two years ago, fantastic:
https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-...micro+shredder
A micro-cut-shredder is far more secure than the typical shredder.

On 2018-04-30 9:05 AM, Cheri wrote:
> "graham" > wrote in message
> news
>> On 2018-04-30 7:22 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>> On 4/30/2018 9:17 AM, graham wrote:
>>>> On 2018-04-30 7:13 AM, Gary wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I've had a shredder here for 20 years or so. I can understand
>>>>> shredding personal documents with names and account numbers but I
>>>>> don't understand why people feel the need to shred *everything*.
>>>>> Most paperwork can just be tossed out with no worries if someone
>>>>> else digs it out and reads.
>>>>>
>>>> I have reams and reams of confidential data that has to be
>>>> destroyed. Otherwise, I only shred the stuff that could be used to
>>>> steal ones identity.
>>>
>>> We have county shredding events, they have a truck parked (wherever)
>>> and people line up in their cars to drop off bulk shredding. Not
>>> that you were complaining but maybe you could get it done all at
>>> once somewhere.
>>>
>>> nancy
>> I did a couple of years ago when I had one major cull. I had to take
>> it to a commercial shredder as community events are restricted to
>> modest amounts of household stuff only.
>
>
> Here they allow you five banker boxes full, that's it.
>
> Cheri
Only one here!

On 2018-04-30 10:22 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 08:05:50 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>> "graham" > wrote in message
>> news
>>> On 2018-04-30 7:22 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>>> On 4/30/2018 9:17 AM, graham wrote:
>>>>> On 2018-04-30 7:13 AM, Gary wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I've had a shredder here for 20 years or so. I can understand
>>>>>> shredding personal documents with names and account numbers but I
>>>>>> don't understand why people feel the need to shred *everything*.
>>>>>> Most paperwork can just be tossed out with no worries if someone
>>>>>> else digs it out and reads.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I have reams and reams of confidential data that has to be destroyed.
>>>>> Otherwise, I only shred the stuff that could be used to steal ones
>>>>> identity.
>>>>
>>>> We have county shredding events, they have a truck parked (wherever)
>>>> and people line up in their cars to drop off bulk shredding. Not
>>>> that you were complaining but maybe you could get it done all at
>>>> once somewhere.
>>>>
>>>> nancy
>>> I did a couple of years ago when I had one major cull. I had to take it to
>>> a commercial shredder as community events are restricted to modest amounts
>>> of household stuff only.
>>
>>
>> Here they allow you five banker boxes full, that's it.
>>
>> Cheri
> last time I checked the business that does shredding charged $120 for
> 15 legal boxes of paper.
> Janet US
>
I was lucky. I was prepared to pay when I took a load to a commercial
place but the office guy was too busy and wouldn't charge me:-)

"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 08:05:50 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>"graham" > wrote in message
>>news
>>> On 2018-04-30 7:22 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>>> On 4/30/2018 9:17 AM, graham wrote:
>>>>> On 2018-04-30 7:13 AM, Gary wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I've had a shredder here for 20 years or so. I can understand
>>>>>> shredding personal documents with names and account numbers but I
>>>>>> don't understand why people feel the need to shred *everything*.
>>>>>> Most paperwork can just be tossed out with no worries if someone
>>>>>> else digs it out and reads.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I have reams and reams of confidential data that has to be destroyed.
>>>>> Otherwise, I only shred the stuff that could be used to steal ones
>>>>> identity.
>>>>
>>>> We have county shredding events, they have a truck parked (wherever)
>>>> and people line up in their cars to drop off bulk shredding. Not
>>>> that you were complaining but maybe you could get it done all at
>>>> once somewhere.
>>>>
>>>> nancy
>>> I did a couple of years ago when I had one major cull. I had to take it
>>> to
>>> a commercial shredder as community events are restricted to modest
>>> amounts
>>> of household stuff only.
>>
>>
>>Here they allow you five banker boxes full, that's it.
>>
>>Cheri
> last time I checked the business that does shredding charged $120 for
> 15 legal boxes of paper.
> Janet US


They do it free about twice a year at a bank here in town. I do it now
because it's good in the compost for the worms dh raises.

Cheri

On 4/30/2018 12:24 PM, wrote:

>
> I spent a year living in a place like that, a gated community on long
> Island. At first I liked it but very soon discovered it was noisy and
> offered no privacy, pretty much like living in a NYC apartment
> building only more sprawled out, but still the units are very close
> together. I would strongly suggest that anyone who has lived in a
> private house most of their life to rent a unit in one of those
> communities for about a year to see what it's all about before
> commiting. One thing I discovered is about half those units are
> rentals, neighbors are very transient.
>

My lot is at the end of the road and no one across from me as it is
protected land. The back has open land for about 300 yards too. I will
have a neighbor next to me. Supermarket is a bike ride away.

On Monday, April 30, 2018 at 3:14:29 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>
> I've seen many "final insurance" policy commercials on late night
> tv. Funny too. One common one shows this old lady in a hospital
> bed with her kids on each side of the bed. Here she is supposedly
> dying and all she has to say is, "Thank goodness, I've got final
> insurance for you two to bury me." And the adult kids are nodding
> and smiling. Something like that and it cracks me up.
>
> Next new policy to be offered might be "Final clean out Dad's
> room" insurance. LOLOL

Ideally one would like to just be able to fire bomb the room and then sweep out the ashes. This would be similar in principle to a self-cleaning oven. Perhaps you could put dad in there too. Then he could be with his stuff in the afterlife. It's an ancient idea that might work in the modern world. Viking funeral.

On Sat, 28 Apr 2018 10:51:00 -0700 (PDT), Steve 'Cannabis Oil' Wertz
wrote:

> Everyone, let us all put aside this squalid bickering that has
> infested this froup as of late...all this fighting is childish and
> energy - wasting...

Listen to you, the hypocritical fat **** who forges squertz every day
with and tries to instigate shit with practically every post she
makes. You're so fake.

On Monday, April 30, 2018 at 3:17:28 AM UTC-10, graham wrote:
> I have reams and reams of confidential data that has to be destroyed.
> Otherwise, I only shred the stuff that could be used to steal ones identity.

My guess is that lots of folks have confidential data that has to be destroyed - or so they think. Once they die, it all gets taken to the dump. What have you done to insure this doesn't happen?

On 2018-04-30 12:22 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:

>> Here they allow you five banker boxes full, that's it.
>>
>> Cheri
> last time I checked the business that does shredding charged $120 for
> 15 legal boxes of paper.


Wow. That isn't cheap. It seems like an awful lot just to toss a box
into a machine that rips it up....with great force.

I have a home style shredder, the heavy duty one, not the cheap one that
can only handle a page or two at a time. When I was working we had to
insist on the heavy duty one. We were spending too much time feeding
documents through a page or two at a time and we burned out several
shredders before she loosened the purse strings and saved money by
buying one that could do the job without burning out and having to be
replaced.

Once in a while I go through our desk and purge old bills, bank
statements etc. I end up with a the equivalent of a large garbage bag
of shreddies which I take outside and burn. It goes up in a flash and
everything is burned up within about two minutes.

On 4/30/2018 1:07 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, April 30, 2018 at 3:14:29 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:

>> Next new policy to be offered might be "Final clean out Dad's
>> room" insurance. LOLOL
>
> Ideally one would like to just be able to fire bomb the room and then sweep out the ashes. This would be similar in principle to a self-cleaning oven. Perhaps you could put dad in there too. Then he could be with his stuff in the afterlife. It's an ancient idea that might work in the modern world. Viking funeral.
>

Sensible and honorable. I'm for it.

On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 06:09:52 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Sunday, April 29, 2018 at 4:01:07 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 12:36:59 -0700 (PDT), "Steve 'Cannabis Oil' Wertz"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >Bruce wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 12:07:14 -0400, wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 12:20:58 +1000, Bruce >
>> >> >wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>On Sat, 28 Apr 2018 22:07:18 -0400, wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>But then you'd live in California and that sucks.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>I think if I had to move to the US, I'd pick the Californian
>> >> >>countryside. Seems to me that would beat all the snow and rain of the
>> >> >>east coast. If I'd wanted that I'd have stayed in the Netherlands.
>> >> >
>> >> >The best parts of CA get lots of snow and rain
>> >>
>> >> Those parts need to be avoided at all costs.
>> >
>> >
>> >NAY, that sort of weather screens out "the weaklings"...
>>
>> It's not weak to move to a nice climate. It's smart
>
>Are you aware that insulting people and then putting a smiley
>face after the insult does not, in fact, negate the insult?

Having a bad day, snowflake? Who on earth did I insult?