Yep. That's what I am in. It seems that my wife was upset that neither
my son or I would attend a dinner at her church. I do not do church
events, and he has a good excuse because he is working that day. She
invited her niece... the Big Niece. I was not consulted. She knew I
would say no. Maybe she thought it would be a fait accomplis if she went
ahead and invited her.

Nope. No way. Not happening. I am in the dog house. Plans have
changed a bit. BN is now taking the bus down, being picked up and taken
to the dinner, then back to the bus for the trip home. She is not
coming to my house.... not this weekend, or any time in the future.


I am in deep shit over it, but I should be able to sleep well, not
having to worry about someone sneaking through the pantry and helping
herself to everything her little heart desires. There is a line in the
sand. It is bad enough that she has to be included in family events, but
she is not to be invited to come on her own. I hope you are all happy. I
have probably been cut off for a while, but... it's worth it.

On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 19:44:52 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>Yep. That's what I am in. It seems that my wife was upset that neither
>my son or I would attend a dinner at her church. I do not do church
>events, and he has a good excuse because he is working that day. She
>invited her niece... the Big Niece. I was not consulted. She knew I
>would say no. Maybe she thought it would be a fait accomplis if she went
>ahead and invited her.
>
> Nope. No way. Not happening. I am in the dog house. Plans have
>changed a bit. BN is now taking the bus down, being picked up and taken
>to the dinner, then back to the bus for the trip home. She is not
>coming to my house.... not this weekend, or any time in the future.
>
>
>I am in deep shit over it, but I should be able to sleep well, not
>having to worry about someone sneaking through the pantry and helping
>herself to everything her little heart desires. There is a line in the
>sand. It is bad enough that she has to be included in family events, but
>she is not to be invited to come on her own. I hope you are all happy. I
>have probably been cut off for a while, but... it's worth it.

I fail to understand, what does it matter if she helps herself to
everything her little heart desires?? It's clearly not something in
her control. Have a little empathy, your wife might like you better.

On 10/22/2017 7:52 PM, wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 19:44:52 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> Yep. That's what I am in. It seems that my wife was upset that neither
>> my son or I would attend a dinner at her church. I do not do church
>> events, and he has a good excuse because he is working that day. She
>> invited her niece... the Big Niece. I was not consulted. She knew I
>> would say no. Maybe she thought it would be a fait accomplis if she went
>> ahead and invited her.
>>
>> Nope. No way. Not happening. I am in the dog house. Plans have
>> changed a bit. BN is now taking the bus down, being picked up and taken
>> to the dinner, then back to the bus for the trip home. She is not
>> coming to my house.... not this weekend, or any time in the future.
>>
>>
>> I am in deep shit over it, but I should be able to sleep well, not
>> having to worry about someone sneaking through the pantry and helping
>> herself to everything her little heart desires. There is a line in the
>> sand. It is bad enough that she has to be included in family events, but
>> she is not to be invited to come on her own. I hope you are all happy. I
>> have probably been cut off for a while, but... it's worth it.
>
> I fail to understand, what does it matter if she helps herself to
> everything her little heart desires?? It's clearly not something in
> her control. Have a little empathy, your wife might like you better.
>
No one is required to indulge obsessive eating habits. However, this is
a church dinner. His wife invited her. Since he doesn't do church
events anyway, why should she have a problem with him not attending this
time?

Jill

On 2017-10-22 8:25 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 10/22/2017 7:52 PM, wrote:
>> On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 19:44:52 -0400, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:

>> I fail to understand, what does it matter if she helps herself to
>> everything her little heart desires??Â* It's clearly not something in
>> her control.Â* Have a little empathy, your wife might like you better.
>>
> No one is required to indulge obsessive eating habits.Â* However, this is
> a church dinner.Â* His wife invited her.Â* Since he doesn't do church
> events anyway, why should she have a problem with him not attending this
> time?
>

Not a problem if she lived nearby and could manage transportation on
her own. The scenario would be for her husband to drive her down and
they would expect to spend the night here.

On 10/22/2017 8:43 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-10-22 8:25 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 10/22/2017 7:52 PM, wrote:
>>> On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 19:44:52 -0400, Dave Smith
>>> > wrote:
>
>>> I fail to understand, what does it matter if she helps herself to
>>> everything her little heart desires??Â* It's clearly not something in
>>> her control.Â* Have a little empathy, your wife might like you better.
>>>
>> No one is required to indulge obsessive eating habits.Â* However, this
>> is a church dinner.Â* His wife invited her.Â* Since he doesn't do church
>> events anyway, why should she have a problem with him not attending
>> this time?
>>
>
> Not a problemÂ* if she lived nearby and could manage transportation on
> her own. The scenario would be for her husband to drive her down and
> they would expect to spend the night here.

Except you said she's taking the bus, to and fro. So, no problem.

Jill

On 2017-10-22 9:03 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 10/22/2017 8:43 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

>> Not a problemÂ* if she lived nearby and could manage transportation on
>> her own. The scenario would be for her husband to drive her down and
>> they would expect to spend the night here.
>
> Except you said she's taking the bus, to and fro.Â* So, no problem.
>

That was the arrangement after I found out about it and refused to have
her here.

On 10/23/2017 12:28 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> He just can't stop this charade at somebody else's expense.
>
> -sw

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On 10/22/2017 7:52 PM, wrote:

>>
>> Nope. No way. Not happening. I am in the dog house. Plans have
>> changed a bit. BN is now taking the bus down, being picked up and taken
>> to the dinner, then back to the bus for the trip home. She is not
>> coming to my house.... not this weekend, or any time in the future.
>>
>>


>
> I fail to understand, what does it matter if she helps herself to
> everything her little heart desires?? It's clearly not something in
> her control. Have a little empathy, your wife might like you better.
>

Oh, I can understand it. You buy something special for a meal or treat
in the coming week and when you go to get it, gone. Or you set aside
something to take for lunch the next day and at 6 AM redy to leave for
work you find it is gone.

Finishing up the last of the mashed potatoes on the table is ok, but BN
goes on scavenging missions.

On 10/22/2017 8:29 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/22/2017 7:52 PM, wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Â* Nope. No way. Not happening. I am in the dog house.Â* Plans have
>>> changed a bit. BN is now taking the bus down, being picked up and taken
>>> to the dinner, then back to the bus for the trip home.Â* She is not
>>> coming to my house.... not this weekend, or any time in the future.
>>>
>>>
>
>
>>
>> I fail to understand, what does it matter if she helps herself to
>> everything her little heart desires??Â* It's clearly not something in
>> her control.Â* Have a little empathy, your wife might like you better.
>>
>
> Oh, I can understand it.Â* You buy something special for a meal or treat
> in the coming week and when you go to get it, gone.Â* Or you set aside
> something to take for lunch the next day and at 6 AM redy to leave for
> work you find it is gone.
>
> Finishing up the last of the mashed potatoes on the table is ok, but BN
> goes on scavenging missions.

I agree, Ed. But in Dave's recent post she's not going to spend then
night. She's taking a bus to and from the church dinner. It would be
different if she was going to spend the night, but that was not
indicated. Maybe he's just worried she'll miss the last bus...

Jill

On 2017-10-22 9:05 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 10/22/2017 8:29 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>> Oh, I can understand it.Â* You buy something special for a meal or
>> treat in the coming week and when you go to get it, gone.Â* Or you set
>> aside something to take for lunch the next day and at 6 AM redy to
>> leave for work you find it is gone.
>>
>> Finishing up the last of the mashed potatoes on the table is ok, but
>> BN goes on scavenging missions.
>
> I agree, Ed.Â* But in Dave's recent post she's not going to spend then
> night.Â* She's taking a bus to and from the church dinner.Â* It would be
> different if she was going to spend the night, but that was not
> indicated.Â* Maybe he's just worried she'll miss the last bus...
>
>

I thought I was pretty clear in the original post that the plans
changed and that she is no coming down by bus. That means my wife has to
go to another city to pick her up at the bus station and then take her
back to that city to take the bus back home.

Yes, there is some concern that she might miss the last bus, but I have
been very firm that she is not coming here.

On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 21:11:27 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>I thought I was pretty clear in the original post that the plans
>changed and that she is no coming down by bus. That means my wife has to
>go to another city to pick her up at the bus station and then take her
>back to that city to take the bus back home.

It was clear to me. Maybe Jill reads too fast.

>Yes, there is some concern that she might miss the last bus, but I have
>been very firm that she is not coming here.

What if she DOES miss the last bus? Will you sleep in the kitchen?

On 2017-10-22 7:52 PM, wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 19:44:52 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:

>> I am in deep shit over it, but I should be able to sleep well, not
>> having to worry about someone sneaking through the pantry and helping
>> herself to everything her little heart desires. There is a line in the
>> sand. It is bad enough that she has to be included in family events, but
>> she is not to be invited to come on her own. I hope you are all happy. I
>> have probably been cut off for a while, but... it's worth it.
>
> I fail to understand, what does it matter if she helps herself to
> everything her little heart desires?? It's clearly not something in
> her control. Have a little empathy, your wife might like you better.
>

I understand that it is a form of theft. I have previously posted about
how she had stayed at our apartment and I was in hot water for having
baked a double batch of chocolate chip cookies and my wife was upset
because the girl was supposed to be on Weight Watchers. Not a problem. I
put them into two cans and stashed them at the back of the bottom
cupboard. After she left I went to get the cookies from the hiding place
they were all gone.... a double batch, about 60 cookies. She had gone
snooping and found two cans of cookies that had obviously been hidden,
and she ate them all..... all 60 cookies.

On that same visit I had made an apple pie because me brother and his
wife were coming for dinner. When I went to get the pie for dessert I
discovered that she had eaten a hug hole out of the pie, leaving only
about 2 inches around the outside.

On another occasion she was here for a catered party. All the food was
served outside on a nice summer day. While we were outside, she was in
the kitchen rooting around in the cupboards, opening up boxes of
crackers and cookies. It is not like there wasn't lots of food available.

Yes. She has a problem. It's her problem. I don't want to have to deal
with it.

On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 20:37:28 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> I understand that it is a form of theft. I have previously posted about
> how she had stayed at our apartment and I was in hot water for having
> baked a double batch of chocolate chip cookies and my wife was upset
> because the girl was supposed to be on Weight Watchers. Not a problem. I
> put them into two cans and stashed them at the back of the bottom
> cupboard. After she left I went to get the cookies from the hiding place
> they were all gone.... a double batch, about 60 cookies. She had gone
> snooping and found two cans of cookies that had obviously been hidden,
> and she ate them all..... all 60 cookies.

Life imitates art (again):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsHoWJgkENY

--
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On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 20:37:28 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> I understand that it is a form of theft. I have previously posted about
> how she had stayed at our apartment and I was in hot water for having
> baked a double batch of chocolate chip cookies and my wife was upset
> because the girl was supposed to be on Weight Watchers. Not a problem. I
> put them into two cans and stashed them at the back of the bottom
> cupboard. After she left I went to get the cookies from the hiding place
> they were all gone.... a double batch, about 60 cookies. She had gone
> snooping and found two cans of cookies that had obviously been hidden,
> and she ate them all..... all 60 cookies.

Life imitates art (again):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsHoWJgkENY


Bob

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In article >,
says...
>
> Yep. That's what I am in. It seems that my wife was upset that neither
> my son or I would attend a dinner at her church. I do not do church
> events, and he has a good excuse because he is working that day. She
> invited her niece... the Big Niece. I was not consulted.

Why would she need to consult you about inviting BN to the church
dinner, as you wouldn't be there anyway?

Janet UK

On 10/22/2017 8:05 PM, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> Yep. That's what I am in. It seems that my wife was upset that neither
>> my son or I would attend a dinner at her church. I do not do church
>> events, and he has a good excuse because he is working that day. She
>> invited her niece... the Big Niece. I was not consulted.
>
> Why would she need to consult you about inviting BN to the church
> dinner, as you wouldn't be there anyway?
>
> Janet UK
>
Exactly. His wife didn't invite her niece to spend the night with them.

Jill

On 2017-10-22 8:05 PM, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> Yep. That's what I am in. It seems that my wife was upset that neither
>> my son or I would attend a dinner at her church. I do not do church
>> events, and he has a good excuse because he is working that day. She
>> invited her niece... the Big Niece. I was not consulted.
>
> Why would she need to consult you about inviting BN to the church
> dinner, as you wouldn't be there anyway?


The reason is that she doesn't live around here and would presumably be
driven down by her husband, who I would be expected to entertain. They
consider coming down here a weekend in the country and would expect to
stay overnight. After my previous experiences with her, I don't want
her in my house.

On 10/22/2017 8:40 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-10-22 8:05 PM, Janet wrote:
>> In article >,
>> says...
>>>
>>> Yep. That's what I am in. It seems that my wife was upset that neither
>>> my son or I would attend a dinner at her church. I do not do church
>>> events, and he has a good excuse because he is working that day.Â* She
>>> invited her niece... the Big Niece. I was not consulted.
>>
>> Â*Â* Why would she need to consult you about inviting BN to the church
>> dinner, as you wouldn't be there anyway?
>
>
> The reason is that she doesn't live around here and would presumably be
> driven down by her husband, who I would be expected to entertain. They
> consider coming down here a weekend in the country and would expect to
> stay overnight.Â* After my previous experiences with her, I don't want
> her in my house.
>
She wasn't invited to your house, Dave. You yourself posted "plans have
changed a bit. BN is now taking the bus down, being picked up and taken
to the dinner, then back to the bus for the trip home. She is not
coming to my house." So what the heck are you worried about?

Jill

In article >,
says...
>
> On 2017-10-22 8:05 PM, Janet wrote:
> > In article >,
> > says...
> >>
> >> Yep. That's what I am in. It seems that my wife was upset that neither
> >> my son or I would attend a dinner at her church. I do not do church
> >> events, and he has a good excuse because he is working that day. She
> >> invited her niece... the Big Niece. I was not consulted.
> >
> > Why would she need to consult you about inviting BN to the church
> > dinner, as you wouldn't be there anyway?
>
>
> The reason is that she doesn't live around here and would presumably be
> driven down by her husband, who I would be expected to entertain.

"Presumably" her husband could have gone to the dinner with them. As
they only live a bus journey away, he could then easily drive her home.

You're just trying to put your downtrodden wife in the wrong because
she stood up to your surly control-freakery.

Janet UK

On 10/23/2017 9:33 AM, Janet wrote:
> You're just trying to put your downtrodden wife in the wrong because
> she stood up to your surly control-freakery.
>
> Janet UK

Wot stands up to THESE?


https://fi.realself.com/original/b002-36114.jpg

On 2017-10-23 11:33 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> On 2017-10-22 8:05 PM, Janet wrote:
>>> In article >,
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>> Yep. That's what I am in. It seems that my wife was upset that neither
>>>> my son or I would attend a dinner at her church. I do not do church
>>>> events, and he has a good excuse because he is working that day. She
>>>> invited her niece... the Big Niece. I was not consulted.
>>>
>>> Why would she need to consult you about inviting BN to the church
>>> dinner, as you wouldn't be there anyway?
>>
>>
>> The reason is that she doesn't live around here and would presumably be
>> driven down by her husband, who I would be expected to entertain.
>
> "Presumably" her husband could have gone to the dinner with them. As
> they only live a bus journey away, he could then easily drive her home.
>

Nothing presumable about that. My wife had bought two tickets. When I
did not want to go she asked our son, but he was working. The intercity
bus trip is a minimum hour and a half each way, plus the public transit
time from her house to the bus station. Then it is a 2o minute drive
from the bus station the city where the church is. It really would be
much easier for him to drive her. I doubt he would want to go to the
church dinner. I am positive that if they drover down they would expect
to stay overnight. No thanks.



> You're just trying to put your downtrodden wife in the wrong because
> she stood up to your surly control-freakery.
>

It is not control freakery to not want someone in my house who I know is
likely to steal.

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> Nothing presumable about that. My wife had bought two tickets. When I
> did not want to go she asked our son, but he was working. The intercity
> bus trip is a minimum hour and a half each way, plus the public transit
> time from her house to the bus station. Then it is a 2o minute drive
> from the bus station the city where the church is. It really would be
> much easier for him to drive her. I doubt he would want to go to the
> church dinner. I am positive that if they drover down they would expect
> to stay overnight. No thanks.

Everyone traveling all these miles and hours just to go
to a church dinner? Must be some damn good church dinner.
That's the part I can't understand.

Why would someone take a bus trip for 1.5 hours, then a 20 minute
drive from the bus station to the church. Eat dinner, then
do all that in reverse to go home. WTH?

Is the "Pope" going to be there or something? :-O

Please explain why this church dinner is worth all this travel
and trouble.

On 10/22/2017 7:44 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> Yep. That's what I am in. It seems that my wife was upset that neither
> my son or I would attend a dinner at her church. I do not do church
> events, and he has a good excuse because he is working that day.Â* She
> invited her niece... the Big Niece. I was not consulted. She knew I
> would say no. Maybe she thought it would be a fait accomplis if she went
> ahead and invited her.
>

Is the dinner an all you can eat deal?

On 2017-10-22 8:30 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/22/2017 7:44 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> Yep. That's what I am in. It seems that my wife was upset that neither
>> my son or I would attend a dinner at her church. I do not do church
>> events, and he has a good excuse because he is working that day.Â* She
>> invited her niece... the Big Niece. I was not consulted. She knew I
>> would say no. Maybe she thought it would be a fait accomplis if she
>> went ahead and invited her.
>>
>
> Is the dinner an all you can eat deal?

I have no idea. I told my wife to warn the church people providing the
dinner that they will need to prepare twice as much food.

On Sunday, October 22, 2017 at 1:43:41 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> Yep. That's what I am in. It seems that my wife was upset that neither
> my son or I would attend a dinner at her church. I do not do church
> events, and he has a good excuse because he is working that day. She
> invited her niece... the Big Niece. I was not consulted. She knew I
> would say no. Maybe she thought it would be a fait accomplis if she went
> ahead and invited her.
>
> Nope. No way. Not happening. I am in the dog house. Plans have
> changed a bit. BN is now taking the bus down, being picked up and taken
> to the dinner, then back to the bus for the trip home. She is not
> coming to my house.... not this weekend, or any time in the future.
>
>
> I am in deep shit over it, but I should be able to sleep well, not
> having to worry about someone sneaking through the pantry and helping
> herself to everything her little heart desires. There is a line in the
> sand. It is bad enough that she has to be included in family events, but
> she is not to be invited to come on her own. I hope you are all happy. I
> have probably been cut off for a while, but... it's worth it.

And now you're in hot water. None of this would have happened if only you had accepted Jesus as your personal savior and gone to church. Aye, the fruit of sin is always bitter.

On 10/22/2017 5:44 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> I hope you are all happy. I have probably been cut off for a while,
> but... it's worth it.

TMI!!!!!

On 10/22/2017 4:44 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> Yep. That's what I am in. It seems that my wife was upset that neither
> my son or I would attend a dinner at her church. I do not do church
> events, and he has a good excuse because he is working that day. She
> invited her niece... the Big Niece. I was not consulted. She knew I
> would say no. Maybe she thought it would be a fait accomplis if she went
> ahead and invited her.
>
> Nope. No way. Not happening. I am in the dog house. Plans have
> changed a bit. BN is now taking the bus down, being picked up and taken
> to the dinner, then back to the bus for the trip home. She is not
> coming to my house.... not this weekend, or any time in the future.
>
>
> I am in deep shit over it, but I should be able to sleep well, not
> having to worry about someone sneaking through the pantry and helping
> herself to everything her little heart desires. There is a line in the
> sand. It is bad enough that she has to be included in family events, but
> she is not to be invited to come on her own. I hope you are all happy. I
> have probably been cut off for a while, but... it's worth it.
>


I have to wonder what is really meant by " BN is now taking the bus down".

On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 06:18:28 -0700, Taxed and Spent
> wrote:

>On 10/22/2017 4:44 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> Yep. That's what I am in. It seems that my wife was upset that neither
>> my son or I would attend a dinner at her church. I do not do church
>> events, and he has a good excuse because he is working that day. She
>> invited her niece... the Big Niece. I was not consulted. She knew I
>> would say no. Maybe she thought it would be a fait accomplis if she went
>> ahead and invited her.
>>
>> Nope. No way. Not happening. I am in the dog house. Plans have
>> changed a bit. BN is now taking the bus down, being picked up and taken
>> to the dinner, then back to the bus for the trip home. She is not
>> coming to my house.... not this weekend, or any time in the future.
>>
>>
>> I am in deep shit over it, but I should be able to sleep well, not
>> having to worry about someone sneaking through the pantry and helping
>> herself to everything her little heart desires. There is a line in the
>> sand. It is bad enough that she has to be included in family events, but
>> she is not to be invited to come on her own. I hope you are all happy. I
>> have probably been cut off for a while, but... it's worth it.
>>
>
>
>I have to wonder what is really meant by " BN is now taking the bus down".

Big Niece is weighing the bus down... it can't move! LOL

On Sunday, October 22, 2017 at 1:43:41 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> Yep. That's what I am in. It seems that my wife was upset that neither
> my son or I would attend a dinner at her church. I do not do church
> events, and he has a good excuse because he is working that day. She
> invited her niece... the Big Niece. I was not consulted. She knew I
> would say no. Maybe she thought it would be a fait accomplis if she went
> ahead and invited her.
>
> Nope. No way. Not happening. I am in the dog house. Plans have
> changed a bit. BN is now taking the bus down, being picked up and taken
> to the dinner, then back to the bus for the trip home. She is not
> coming to my house.... not this weekend, or any time in the future.
>
>
> I am in deep shit over it, but I should be able to sleep well, not
> having to worry about someone sneaking through the pantry and helping
> herself to everything her little heart desires. There is a line in the
> sand. It is bad enough that she has to be included in family events, but
> she is not to be invited to come on her own. I hope you are all happy. I
> have probably been cut off for a while, but... it's worth it.

You should be in deep shit. It wouldn't have killed you to do this one simple thing. The reality is that you do shit that you don't want to do because you love and respect your wife.

On 10/23/2017 11:02 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> The reality is that you do shit that you don't want to do because you love and respect your wife.

But there must be some limitations...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpFD-kgQxnI

w/ apologies to the Goo Goo Dolls...

On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 10:02:23 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Sunday, October 22, 2017 at 1:43:41 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>> Yep. That's what I am in. It seems that my wife was upset that neither
>> my son or I would attend a dinner at her church. I do not do church
>> events, and he has a good excuse because he is working that day. She
>> invited her niece... the Big Niece. I was not consulted. She knew I
>> would say no. Maybe she thought it would be a fait accomplis if she went
>> ahead and invited her.
>>
>> Nope. No way. Not happening. I am in the dog house. Plans have
>> changed a bit. BN is now taking the bus down, being picked up and taken
>> to the dinner, then back to the bus for the trip home. She is not
>> coming to my house.... not this weekend, or any time in the future.
>>
>>
>> I am in deep shit over it, but I should be able to sleep well, not
>> having to worry about someone sneaking through the pantry and helping
>> herself to everything her little heart desires. There is a line in the
>> sand. It is bad enough that she has to be included in family events, but
>> she is not to be invited to come on her own. I hope you are all happy. I
>> have probably been cut off for a while, but... it's worth it.
>
>You should be in deep shit. It wouldn't have killed you to do this one simple thing.
>The reality is that you do shit that you don't want to do because you love and
> respect your wife.

There's a very simple solution. What we would do when people
suggested getting together as a group and there may be some that we
really didn't feel comfortable with at our home we suggested meeting
at a restaurant. People can enjoy themselves to their heart's content
and then pay their own tab. We used to do that all the time, with
family and friends, no one feels put out. And whoever chose for
whatever reason not to attend could decline.
We never enjoyed a crowd at our house, the most we felt comfortable
entertaining at home was no more than two other couples and only those
we knew well. These days we don't even know any couples, of every
couple we knew their spouse has passed. At this age hardly anyone is
left who I knew growing up. Of the handful remaining they live ten
states away and/or in assisted care homes. At my age it's very
difficult for men to make new friends... making new friends (actually
aquaintances) later in life is easier for women. Since my wife golfs,
skis, takes watercolor painting lessons, knits, and is a substitute
teacher she has more opportunity to meet new people but she readily
admits that none does she know nearly well enough to consider
friends... none have invited her/us to their home... we figure they've
something to hide. And none of those people she meets have stayed
around for more than a season and then move on. People are extremely
transient these days. Most won't give a home address, at best just an
email address and cell phone number. My wife was born in Belize
(actually British Hondurous then), and as a young adult lived in
London, England. Old friends from then are long gone. Neither of us
had much family, those are gone as well. However we make a good team,
we have much in common and enjoy a lot of the same things, we both
love country living.

On 10/23/2017 12:33 PM, wrote:
> However we make a good team,
> we have much in common and enjoy a lot of the same things, we both
> love country living.

And at your ages what else truly matters?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq_7XAto0SI

On 2017-10-23 2:33 PM, wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 10:02:23 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >

> There's a very simple solution. What we would do when people
> suggested getting together as a group and there may be some that we
> really didn't feel comfortable with at our home we suggested meeting
> at a restaurant. People can enjoy themselves to their heart's content
> and then pay their own tab. We used to do that all the time, with
> family and friends, no one feels put out. And whoever chose for
> whatever reason not to attend could decline.

I suppose if she had to pay her own way she would decline. The last time
I treated her she took advantage. There were lunch specials that came
with a choice of soup or salad. She ordered it with soup, and then
ordered a large salad as well. That's two lunches. Then, just before
leaving to attend a cheese tasting, she ordered a cheese platter (for
two) for herself.

The last time I was in a restaurant with the woman her mother was
treating. BN orders a gourmet burger than comes with fries or salad, and
she ordered it with salad. A few minutes later, she called the waitress
over and ordered salad. When the meals were served shad asked about the
fries. The waitress thought she had wanted the salad instead of the
fries. Nope. She wanted both. The waitress scooted to the kitchen to
correct the order and get the fries, but a couple minutes later she
calls the waitress back and cancels the order for the fries. Now the
waitress has to go back to the kitchen to cancel the fries. About 5
minutes later, she calls the waitress over and orders the fries.

I don't know if you have ever been in a party where someone keeps
changing their order, or uses other means to monopolize a server. My
experience is that the server disappears. They don't want to waste their
time running back and forth for nothing. They prefer to wait on the
less demanding tables. When I had to sit near her and her husband at a
recent buffet event her husband commented that waiters often get mad at
them. Who can blame them for getting frustrated?

On Monday, October 23, 2017 at 8:33:43 AM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
>
> There's a very simple solution. What we would do when people
> suggested getting together as a group and there may be some that we
> really didn't feel comfortable with at our home we suggested meeting
> at a restaurant. People can enjoy themselves to their heart's content
> and then pay their own tab. We used to do that all the time, with
> family and friends, no one feels put out. And whoever chose for
> whatever reason not to attend could decline.
> We never enjoyed a crowd at our house, the most we felt comfortable
> entertaining at home was no more than two other couples and only those
> we knew well. These days we don't even know any couples, of every
> couple we knew their spouse has passed. At this age hardly anyone is
> left who I knew growing up. Of the handful remaining they live ten
> states away and/or in assisted care homes. At my age it's very
> difficult for men to make new friends... making new friends (actually
> aquaintances) later in life is easier for women. Since my wife golfs,
> skis, takes watercolor painting lessons, knits, and is a substitute
> teacher she has more opportunity to meet new people but she readily
> admits that none does she know nearly well enough to consider
> friends... none have invited her/us to their home... we figure they've
> something to hide. And none of those people she meets have stayed
> around for more than a season and then move on. People are extremely
> transient these days. Most won't give a home address, at best just an
> email address and cell phone number. My wife was born in Belize
> (actually British Hondurous then), and as a young adult lived in
> London, England. Old friends from then are long gone. Neither of us
> had much family, those are gone as well. However we make a good team,
> we have much in common and enjoy a lot of the same things, we both
> love country living.

You should direct your comments to the other dave.

On 10/23/2017 3:44 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> Old friends from then are long gone. Neither of us
>> had much family, those are gone as well. However we make a good team,
>> we have much in common and enjoy a lot of the same things, we both
>> love country living.
> You should direct your comments to the other dave.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0r-XhL6mAg

On Monday, October 23, 2017 at 11:48:17 AM UTC-10, Casa lo pensa wrote:
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0r-XhL6mAg

That computer got what it deserved!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P57dx8xIrGg

Sheldon, it sounds like you have a good life and appreciate it, so good for you!
I was thinking just the other day that if we do one, our high school class 60th
reunion is next year, and in my case, it is remarkable how few classmates have
passed. However, I live in a university town, so not only are new residents I
might meet not here very long, but most of my h.s. classmates left town right after
they finished school. And you are right, it is very hard to make new friends at this
age.

As to the OP, I don't think he is being too control-freaky, but I think the solution to
empty the pantry is a good idea. Rat poison is a very bad idea, but leaving a
clearly-labeled box of ant poison on the shelf might give the BN the idea that you have a
bug problem and have to keep the food elsewhere, which you could explain if she asks.
Put the contents of your pantry in your garage, leaving the spices, flavorings, etc., that
she wouldn't eat anyway. I have no idea what to do about her taking other things if
she wants them. She obviously needs professional help.

I think since she is your wife's relative, that your wife should talk to family members
about finding a way to convince BN to get that help.

N.

On 2017-10-24 9:02 AM, Nancy2 wrote:

>
> As to the OP, I don't think he is being too control-freaky, but I
> think the solution to empty the pantry is a good idea. Rat poison is
> a very bad idea, but leaving a clearly-labeled box of ant poison on
> the shelf might give the BN the idea that you have a bug problem and
> have to keep the food elsewhere, which you could explain if she
> asks. Put the contents of your pantry in your garage, leaving the
> spices, flavorings, etc., that she wouldn't eat anyway. I have no
> idea what to do about her taking other things if she wants them. She
> obviously needs professional help.

Who wants people coming to the house when they act in a way that makes
steps like emptying cupboards and faking vermin infestation look like
good ideas?


> I think since she is your wife's relative, that your wife should talk
> to family members about finding a way to convince BN to get that
> help.

Okay... I will leave it to my wife to tell her niece that she has a
problem that needs to be dealt with professionally.... or she can tell
her sister that her daughter needs to get that help.

On 10/24/2017 7:02 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
> Sheldon, it sounds like you have a good life and appreciate it, so good for you!
> I was thinking just the other day that if we do one, our high school class 60th
> reunion is next year, and in my case, it is remarkable how few classmates have
> passed. However, I live in a university town, so not only are new residents I
> might meet not here very long, but most of my h.s. classmates left town right after
> they finished school. And you are right, it is very hard to make new friends at this
> age.
>
> As to the OP, I don't think he is being too control-freaky, but I think the solution to
> empty the pantry is a good idea. Rat poison is a very bad idea, but leaving a
> clearly-labeled box of ant poison on the shelf might give the BN the idea that you have a
> bug problem and have to keep the food elsewhere, which you could explain if she asks.
> Put the contents of your pantry in your garage, leaving the spices, flavorings, etc., that
> she wouldn't eat anyway. I have no idea what to do about her taking other things if
> she wants them. She obviously needs professional help.
>
> I think since she is your wife's relative, that your wife should talk to family members
> about finding a way to convince BN to get that help.
>
> N.
>


Of course I was _joking_ on the rat poison, the Ex Lax...well...

On 10/23/2017 1:02 PM, dsi1 wrote:

>
> You should be in deep shit. It wouldn't have killed you to do this one simple thing. The reality is that you do shit that you don't want to do because you love and respect your wife.
>

Exactly. I had a gray car but my wife said she would like a blue one
better. Last Friday I took her to look at one, she like it, so I bought
it. Just so she could ride in a blue car.