I made a Zucchini Chocolate Cake today. The oven was already hot and
I had a portion of a pork loin thawed. I wanted something quick and
easy.
I winged it and came up with this.
I made a roasted pork loin with onions, carrots and potatoes. The
pork had been so well trimmed there was no fat. I put the veggies and
meat in a zip type bag with about a quarter cup of corn oil and 2
packages of Lipton Onion Soup mix, closed the bag and toss everything
around until coated.
I roasted everything at 375F - Convection, covered for 40 minutes. The
internal temperature was already close to 140F. I uncovered the pan
and let it roast for another 20 minutes or so to brown up. Removed
from the oven at 145F.
Photo he
http://s1171.photobucket.com/user/ge...0yg7o.jpg.html
Sorry, I don't do plating. We serve ourselves.
The meat and vegetables were perfectly seasoned, not at all over
salted. Very tasty. I've never done anything like this before, it
was spur of the moment and turned out fine.
Janet US

On 4/23/2016 10:24 PM, Janet B wrote:
> I made a Zucchini Chocolate Cake today. The oven was already hot and
> I had a portion of a pork loin thawed. I wanted something quick and
> easy.
> I winged it and came up with this.
> I made a roasted pork loin with onions, carrots and potatoes. The
> pork had been so well trimmed there was no fat. I put the veggies and
> meat in a zip type bag with about a quarter cup of corn oil and 2
> packages of Lipton Onion Soup mix, closed the bag and toss everything
> around until coated.
> I roasted everything at 375F - Convection, covered for 40 minutes. The
> internal temperature was already close to 140F. I uncovered the pan
> and let it roast for another 20 minutes or so to brown up. Removed
> from the oven at 145F.
> Photo he
> http://s1171.photobucket.com/user/ge...0yg7o.jpg.html
> Sorry, I don't do plating. We serve ourselves.
> The meat and vegetables were perfectly seasoned, not at all over
> salted. Very tasty. I've never done anything like this before, it
> was spur of the moment and turned out fine.
> Janet US
>
I grade that a solid A+

Looks as appealing as any roast I've ever seen.

"Janet B" > wrote in message
news
>I made a Zucchini Chocolate Cake today. The oven was already hot and
> I had a portion of a pork loin thawed. I wanted something quick and
> easy.
> I winged it and came up with this.
> I made a roasted pork loin with onions, carrots and potatoes. The
> pork had been so well trimmed there was no fat. I put the veggies and
> meat in a zip type bag with about a quarter cup of corn oil and 2
> packages of Lipton Onion Soup mix, closed the bag and toss everything
> around until coated.
> I roasted everything at 375F - Convection, covered for 40 minutes. The
> internal temperature was already close to 140F. I uncovered the pan
> and let it roast for another 20 minutes or so to brown up. Removed
> from the oven at 145F.
> Photo he
> http://s1171.photobucket.com/user/ge...0yg7o.jpg.html
> Sorry, I don't do plating. We serve ourselves.
> The meat and vegetables were perfectly seasoned, not at all over
> salted. Very tasty. I've never done anything like this before, it
> was spur of the moment and turned out fine.
> Janet US

Looking very, very good.

Cheri

On 4/23/2016 11:24 PM, Janet B wrote:
>
> Photo he
> http://s1171.photobucket.com/user/ge...0yg7o.jpg.html
> Sorry, I don't do plating. We serve ourselves.
> The meat and vegetables were perfectly seasoned, not at all over
> salted. Very tasty. I've never done anything like this before, it
> was spur of the moment and turned out fine.
> Janet US
>

Gorgeous! That looks like a "scrumptious" dinner! How was the zucchini
chocolate cake?

MaryL

On Sun, 24 Apr 2016 07:02:14 -0500, MaryL
> wrote:

>On 4/23/2016 11:24 PM, Janet B wrote:
>>
>> Photo he
>> http://s1171.photobucket.com/user/ge...0yg7o.jpg.html
>> Sorry, I don't do plating. We serve ourselves.
>> The meat and vegetables were perfectly seasoned, not at all over
>> salted. Very tasty. I've never done anything like this before, it
>> was spur of the moment and turned out fine.
>> Janet US
>>
>
>Gorgeous! That looks like a "scrumptious" dinner! How was the zucchini
>chocolate cake?
>
>MaryL

Ahhh. Moist, gooey, chocolaty and yummy. There's a previous photo of
it somewhere in my photobucket collection. I put raisins and nuts in
the batter and sprinkle the top of the raw batter with sugar and
chocolate chips.
Janet US

Janet B wrote:
>
> On Sun, 24 Apr 2016 07:02:14 -0500, MaryL
> > wrote:
>
> >On 4/23/2016 11:24 PM, Janet B wrote:
> >>
> >> Photo he
> >> http://s1171.photobucket.com/user/ge...0yg7o.jpg.html
> >> Sorry, I don't do plating. We serve ourselves.
> >> The meat and vegetables were perfectly seasoned, not at all over
> >> salted. Very tasty. I've never done anything like this before, it
> >> was spur of the moment and turned out fine.
> >> Janet US
> >>
> >
> >Gorgeous! That looks like a "scrumptious" dinner! How was the zucchini
> >chocolate cake?
> >
> >MaryL
>
> Ahhh. Moist, gooey, chocolaty and yummy. There's a previous photo of
> it somewhere in my photobucket collection. I put raisins and nuts in
> the batter and sprinkle the top of the raw batter with sugar and
> chocolate chips.
> Janet US

Sadly, I couldn't see it as my software is too old. Can't see any of
sw food pictures anymore either. What's up with that? It's just a
simple .jpg pic but these photo groups keep on "improving" their
webpages and they don't care about backward compatability. My loss.

On 4/24/2016 9:20 AM, Gary wrote:
> Janet B wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 24 Apr 2016 07:02:14 -0500, MaryL
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/23/2016 11:24 PM, Janet B wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Photo he
>>>> http://s1171.photobucket.com/user/ge...0yg7o.jpg.html
>>>> Sorry, I don't do plating. We serve ourselves.
>>>> The meat and vegetables were perfectly seasoned, not at all over
>>>> salted. Very tasty. I've never done anything like this before, it
>>>> was spur of the moment and turned out fine.
>>>> Janet US
>>>>
>>>
>>> Gorgeous! That looks like a "scrumptious" dinner! How was the zucchini
>>> chocolate cake?
>>>
>>> MaryL
>>
>> Ahhh. Moist, gooey, chocolaty and yummy. There's a previous photo of
>> it somewhere in my photobucket collection. I put raisins and nuts in
>> the batter and sprinkle the top of the raw batter with sugar and
>> chocolate chips.
>> Janet US
>
> Sadly, I couldn't see it as my software is too old. Can't see any of
> sw food pictures anymore either. What's up with that? It's just a
> simple .jpg pic but these photo groups keep on "improving" their
> webpages and they don't care about backward compatability. My loss.
>
Didn't you at one point say you *have* a newer computer you just don't
use it?

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
>
> On 4/24/2016 9:20 AM, Gary wrote:
> > Janet B wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sun, 24 Apr 2016 07:02:14 -0500, MaryL
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 4/23/2016 11:24 PM, Janet B wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Photo he
> >>>> http://s1171.photobucket.com/user/ge...0yg7o.jpg.html
> >>>> Sorry, I don't do plating. We serve ourselves.
> >>>> The meat and vegetables were perfectly seasoned, not at all over
> >>>> salted. Very tasty. I've never done anything like this before, it
> >>>> was spur of the moment and turned out fine.
> >>>> Janet US
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Gorgeous! That looks like a "scrumptious" dinner! How was the zucchini
> >>> chocolate cake?
> >>>
> >>> MaryL
> >>
> >> Ahhh. Moist, gooey, chocolaty and yummy. There's a previous photo of
> >> it somewhere in my photobucket collection. I put raisins and nuts in
> >> the batter and sprinkle the top of the raw batter with sugar and
> >> chocolate chips.
> >> Janet US
> >
> > Sadly, I couldn't see it as my software is too old. Can't see any of
> > sw food pictures anymore either. What's up with that? It's just a
> > simple .jpg pic but these photo groups keep on "improving" their
> > webpages and they don't care about backward compatability. My loss.
> >
> Didn't you at one point say you *have* a newer computer you just don't
> use it?

Yes. I've been using the laptop for certain things now. It's Windows7
and the software is much more upgraded than my older 2 computers.
Still that updated software is not good enough. Seems that I need the
"newest" software.

Why don't I have it yet? New Thunderbird and Firefox versions are so
bloated now. My dial-up would most likely disconnect before I
downloaded 30mb of software. I need to go sit in the library parking
lot and use their free wifi at a higher speed to get this software. I
keep on planning to do this but so far have been too lazy. Maybe I'll
try a home download for overnight and see if it works.

Even then though, Jill. This is a laptop with a touch-pad, no mouse.
It's a bit annoying to use. I also can't hook up my camera, printer,
etc to it.

On 4/24/2016 9:58 AM, Gary wrote:

> try a home download for overnight and see if it works.
>
> Even then though, Jill. This is a laptop with a touch-pad, no mouse.
> It's a bit annoying to use. I also can't hook up my camera, printer,
> etc to it.
>

Does it have a USB port? If so, you can connect most anything to it.
Most laptops have a couple of ports and I use one for the mouse
receiver. You can also print wirelessly with a Trendnet receiver on the
printer and the utility on the computer. Any computer.

On Sun, 24 Apr 2016 09:58:23 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>jmcquown wrote:
>>
> >
>> Didn't you at one point say you *have* a newer computer you just don't
>> use it?
>
>Yes. I've been using the laptop for certain things now. It's Windows7
>and the software is much more upgraded than my older 2 computers.
>Still that updated software is not good enough. Seems that I need the
>"newest" software.
>
>Why don't I have it yet? New Thunderbird and Firefox versions are so
>bloated now. My dial-up would most likely disconnect before I
>downloaded 30mb of software. I need to go sit in the library parking
>lot and use their free wifi at a higher speed to get this software. I
>keep on planning to do this but so far have been too lazy. Maybe I'll
>try a home download for overnight and see if it works.
>
>Even then though, Jill. This is a laptop with a touch-pad, no mouse.
>It's a bit annoying to use. I also can't hook up my camera, printer,
>etc to it.

So add a wireless keyboard and mouse. Love mine, I set it up so
pressing any of the F keys brings up whatever I want it to.

lucretiaborgia wrote:
>Gary wrote:
>>jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>> Didn't you at one point say you *have* a newer computer you just don't
>>> use it?
>>
>>Yes. I've been using the laptop for certain things now. It's Windows7
>>and the software is much more upgraded than my older 2 computers.
>>Still that updated software is not good enough. Seems that I need the
>>"newest" software.
>>
>>Why don't I have it yet? New Thunderbird and Firefox versions are so
>>bloated now. My dial-up would most likely disconnect before I
>>downloaded 30mb of software. I need to go sit in the library parking
>>lot and use their free wifi at a higher speed to get this software. I
>>keep on planning to do this but so far have been too lazy. Maybe I'll
>>try a home download for overnight and see if it works.
>>
>>Even then though, Jill. This is a laptop with a touch-pad, no mouse.
>>It's a bit annoying to use. I also can't hook up my camera, printer,
>>etc to it.
>
>So add a wireless keyboard and mouse. Love mine, I set it up so
>pressing any of the F keys brings up whatever I want it to.

Gary's dongle is probably too small! hehehe

Janet B wrote:
>
> Photo he
> http://s1171.photobucket.com/user/ge...0yg7o.jpg.html
> Sorry, I don't do plating. We serve ourselves.
> The meat and vegetables were perfectly seasoned, not at all over
> salted. Very tasty. I've never done anything like this before, it
> was spur of the moment and turned out fine.

Looks great... what time should I arrive for dinner?

On Sun, 24 Apr 2016 12:05:40 -0400, Brooklyn1
> wrote:

>Janet B wrote:
>>
>> Photo he
>> http://s1171.photobucket.com/user/ge...0yg7o.jpg.html
>> Sorry, I don't do plating. We serve ourselves.
>> The meat and vegetables were perfectly seasoned, not at all over
>> salted. Very tasty. I've never done anything like this before, it
>> was spur of the moment and turned out fine.
>
>Looks great... what time should I arrive for dinner?

Thanks, you'll have to catch it next time. The remainder is scheduled
for sandwiches today.
Janet US

On Sat, 23 Apr 2016 23:39:59 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
>"Janet B" > wrote in message
>news
snip

>> The meat and vegetables were perfectly seasoned, not at all over
>> salted. Very tasty. I've never done anything like this before, it
>> was spur of the moment and turned out fine.
>> Janet US
>
>Looking very, very good.
>
>Cheri
thank you
Janet US

On 4/24/2016 9:58 AM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> On 4/24/2016 9:20 AM, Gary wrote:
>>> Janet B wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 24 Apr 2016 07:02:14 -0500, MaryL
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 4/23/2016 11:24 PM, Janet B wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Photo he
>>>>>> http://s1171.photobucket.com/user/ge...0yg7o.jpg.html
>>>>>> Sorry, I don't do plating. We serve ourselves.
>>>>>> The meat and vegetables were perfectly seasoned, not at all over
>>>>>> salted. Very tasty. I've never done anything like this before, it
>>>>>> was spur of the moment and turned out fine.
>>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Gorgeous! That looks like a "scrumptious" dinner! How was the zucchini
>>>>> chocolate cake?
>>>>>
>>>>> MaryL
>>>>
>>>> Ahhh. Moist, gooey, chocolaty and yummy. There's a previous photo of
>>>> it somewhere in my photobucket collection. I put raisins and nuts in
>>>> the batter and sprinkle the top of the raw batter with sugar and
>>>> chocolate chips.
>>>> Janet US
>>>
>>> Sadly, I couldn't see it as my software is too old. Can't see any of
>>> sw food pictures anymore either. What's up with that? It's just a
>>> simple .jpg pic but these photo groups keep on "improving" their
>>> webpages and they don't care about backward compatability. My loss.
>>>
>> Didn't you at one point say you *have* a newer computer you just don't
>> use it?
>
> Yes. I've been using the laptop for certain things now. It's Windows7
> and the software is much more upgraded than my older 2 computers.
> Still that updated software is not good enough. Seems that I need the
> "newest" software.
>
What?! I'm running Windows 7 and I can view all of those links without
any problems.

> Why don't I have it yet? New Thunderbird and Firefox versions are so
> bloated now. My dial-up would most likely disconnect before I
> downloaded 30mb of software.

I'd say dial-up is your problem, then, not the hardware or the operating
system.

> I need to go sit in the library parking
> lot and use their free wifi at a higher speed to get this software. I
> keep on planning to do this but so far have been too lazy. Maybe I'll
> try a home download for overnight and see if it works.
>
It should not take overnight, Gary.

> Even then though, Jill. This is a laptop with a touch-pad, no mouse.
> It's a bit annoying to use. I also can't hook up my camera, printer,
> etc to it.
>
Well then, I'd say you have other problems. In this case, dial-up.

I am using a Toshiba laptop running Windows 7. I've owned it for at
least 5 years. I treat it like a desktop (i.e., I don't carry it
around the house. I run it off the charger, not the battery.) And have
it set to 'sleep' after 30 minutes of inactivity.

I use a separate keyboard because laptop keyboards are entirely too
small for my typing comfort. I have a separate mouse because I can't
stand the touch-pad. I have a printer/scanner connected the laptop. I
am able to print and scan pretty much anything I want to. You've seen
images of my food and cat pics in the past.

As for the digital camera, all I have to do is pop out the memory card
and plug it into the SIM card slot on the side of the laptop. (There's
likely one on the printer/scanner you don't think you can plug into the
laptop, too.)

Dial-up. Slow, slow, slow. I don't believe it's your computer
operating system that is the problem. <shrug>

Jill

Pork Loin

It's in marinade now. Mix of the following but not exactly measured:

Soy sauce (about 3TB)
Worstershire (about 1 TB)
Hot Sweet chicken sauce (Mae Ploy) (about 1/ c)
Spiced vinegar (chili spices) (about 2 TB)
Patis (Tiparos) (about 1/4 TS)
Heinz57 (about 1 TB)

3 pork loin steaks, 1 inch thick each.

Marinating now for 2 hours.

--

On Sun, 24 Apr 2016 09:20:23 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Sadly, I couldn't see it as my software is too old. Can't see any of
>sw food pictures anymore either. What's up with that? It's just a
>simple .jpg pic but these photo groups keep on "improving" their
>webpages and they don't care about backward compatability. My loss.

Well geeze Gary, it appears you're still using Win 98?
There's a lot I don't like about web sites these days - too much
unnecessary bloat and dodgy coding for example. But trying to use a
17y/o operating system that's had no support for years, with outdated
software... it can only end badly at this point. Aside from Usenet of
course

On Sunday, April 24, 2016 at 8:58:30 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>
> This is a laptop with a touch-pad, no mouse.
> It's a bit annoying to use. I also can't hook up my camera, printer,
> etc to it.
>
>
Well buy a dang mouse, your choice of wireless
optical or a wired model. My laptop has that
annoying touchpad and I hate the finger skating.
A mouse stops that aggravation.

Gary > wrote:
>
>Sadly, I couldn't see it as my software is too old. Can't see any of
>sw food pictures anymore either. What's up with that? It's just a
>simple .jpg pic but these photo groups keep on "improving" their
>webpages and they don't care about backward compatability. My loss.

Your OS is too old and no longer being fully supported, not much to be
done... time you moved to Win 10. That's why I bought a new W 10 PC,
I was having problems with Win 7. You can still purchase new PCs
loaded with Win 7 or pay to upgrade your old PC but that would be
dumb. It's silly to put good money after bad, you'll need to obtain a
Win 10 PC within months anyway unless you'd be satisfied to just limp
along with no support. There are good prices on refurbished here, not
used, never plugged in, were just for display:
http://www.microcenter.com/
I bought my last PC there, a refurbished HP Slimline with Win 7 for
$300, lasted me six years... Microcenter has stores all over the US
and they will ship. This time I decided to go brand new direct
from HP... I'm very pleased with my HP Pavillion.

On Sun, 24 Apr 2016 17:19:22 -0400, Brooklyn1
> wrote:

>Gary > wrote:
>>
>>Sadly, I couldn't see it as my software is too old. Can't see any of
>>sw food pictures anymore either. What's up with that? It's just a
>>simple .jpg pic but these photo groups keep on "improving" their
>>webpages and they don't care about backward compatability. My loss.
>
>Your OS is too old and no longer being fully supported, not much to be
>done... time you moved to Win 10. That's why I bought a new W 10 PC,
>I was having problems with Win 7.

More people have problems with Win 10 than Win 7, and by a very wide
margin, too.

>You can still purchase new PCs
>loaded with Win 7 or pay to upgrade your old PC but that would be
>dumb.
>It's silly to put good money after bad,

Ignore Sheldon's very questionable advice.
Well, it's complete crap, actually.

>you'll need to obtain a
>Win 10 PC within months anyway

More complete bullshit.

Win 7 is the best choice in this situation, especially for someone
like Gary who is still using Win 98.

"Janet B" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 23 Apr 2016 23:39:59 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Janet B" > wrote in message
>>news
> snip
>
>>> The meat and vegetables were perfectly seasoned, not at all over
>>> salted. Very tasty. I've never done anything like this before, it
>>> was spur of the moment and turned out fine.
>>> Janet US
>>
>>Looking very, very good.
>>
>>Cheri
> thank you
> Janet US

I love it when spur of the moment things turn out that well and I'm
definitely going to try your way soon.

Cheri

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 4/24/2016 9:58 AM, Gary wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>> On 4/24/2016 9:20 AM, Gary wrote:
>>>> Janet B wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 24 Apr 2016 07:02:14 -0500, MaryL
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/23/2016 11:24 PM, Janet B wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Photo he
>>>>>>> http://s1171.photobucket.com/user/ge...0yg7o.jpg.html
>>>>>>> Sorry, I don't do plating. We serve ourselves.
>>>>>>> The meat and vegetables were perfectly seasoned, not at all over
>>>>>>> salted. Very tasty. I've never done anything like this before, it
>>>>>>> was spur of the moment and turned out fine.
>>>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gorgeous! That looks like a "scrumptious" dinner! How was the
>>>>>> zucchini
>>>>>> chocolate cake?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> MaryL
>>>>>
>>>>> Ahhh. Moist, gooey, chocolaty and yummy. There's a previous photo of
>>>>> it somewhere in my photobucket collection. I put raisins and nuts in
>>>>> the batter and sprinkle the top of the raw batter with sugar and
>>>>> chocolate chips.
>>>>> Janet US
>>>>
>>>> Sadly, I couldn't see it as my software is too old. Can't see any of
>>>> sw food pictures anymore either. What's up with that? It's just a
>>>> simple .jpg pic but these photo groups keep on "improving" their
>>>> webpages and they don't care about backward compatability. My loss.
>>>>
>>> Didn't you at one point say you *have* a newer computer you just don't
>>> use it?
>>
>> Yes. I've been using the laptop for certain things now. It's Windows7
>> and the software is much more upgraded than my older 2 computers.
>> Still that updated software is not good enough. Seems that I need the
>> "newest" software.
>>
> What?! I'm running Windows 7 and I can view all of those links without
> any problems.
>
>> Why don't I have it yet? New Thunderbird and Firefox versions are so
>> bloated now. My dial-up would most likely disconnect before I
>> downloaded 30mb of software.
>
> I'd say dial-up is your problem, then, not the hardware or the operating
> system.
>
>> I need to go sit in the library parking
>> lot and use their free wifi at a higher speed to get this software. I
>> keep on planning to do this but so far have been too lazy. Maybe I'll
>> try a home download for overnight and see if it works.
>>
> It should not take overnight, Gary.
>
>> Even then though, Jill. This is a laptop with a touch-pad, no mouse.
>> It's a bit annoying to use. I also can't hook up my camera, printer,
>> etc to it.
>>
> Well then, I'd say you have other problems. In this case, dial-up.
>
> I am using a Toshiba laptop running Windows 7. I've owned it for at least
> 5 years. I treat it like a desktop (i.e., I don't carry it around the
> house. I run it off the charger, not the battery.) And have it set to
> 'sleep' after 30 minutes of inactivity.
>
> I use a separate keyboard because laptop keyboards are entirely too small
> for my typing comfort. I have a separate mouse because I can't stand the
> touch-pad. I have a printer/scanner connected the laptop. I am able to
> print and scan pretty much anything I want to. You've seen images of my
> food and cat pics in the past.
>
> As for the digital camera, all I have to do is pop out the memory card and
> plug it into the SIM card slot on the side of the laptop. (There's likely
> one on the printer/scanner you don't think you can plug into the laptop,
> too.)
>
> Dial-up. Slow, slow, slow. I don't believe it's your computer operating
> system that is the problem. <shrug>
>
> Jill

I'm pretty sure it's the dial-up too. When I had dial up I couldn't view so
many things and forget about YouTube completely. I have Vista, and Win7 and
everything comes up fine.

Cheri

On Sunday, April 24, 2016 at 4:32:48 PM UTC-5, Jeßus wrote:
>
> On Sun, 24 Apr 2016 17:19:22 -0400, Brooklyn1
> > wrote:
>
> >Your OS is too old and no longer being fully supported, not much to be
> >done... time you moved to Win 10. That's why I bought a new W 10 PC,
> >I was having problems with Win 7.
>
> More people have problems with Win 10 than Win 7, and by a very wide
> margin, too.
>
I took the free upgrade to W-10 last year and I've found it's
a memory hog. My laptop has 4 gigs of memory but who knows what
all Microsoft has loaded extra into that free upgrade?
>
> >You can still purchase new PCs
> >loaded with Win 7 or pay to upgrade your old PC but that would be
> >dumb.
>
I *think* they are still offering the free upgrade to W-7 users
but not for too much longer.
>
> >you'll need to obtain a
> >Win 10 PC within months anyway
>
> More complete bullshit.
>
W-7 will have support for 5 more years if Gary decides to
stay with it. I chose to go with the free W-10 upgrade as they
offered 10 years free support. I'm glad I did but eh, it
was a bit of aggravation at first.
>
> Win 7 is the best choice in this situation, especially for someone
> like Gary who is still using Win 98.

On 2016-04-24 5:32 PM, Je�us wrote:

>> You can still purchase new PCs
>> loaded with Win 7 or pay to upgrade your old PC but that would be
>> dumb.
>> It's silly to put good money after bad,
>
> Ignore Sheldon's very questionable advice.
> Well, it's complete crap, actually.
>
>> you'll need to obtain a
>> Win 10 PC within months anyway
>
> More complete bullshit.
>
> Win 7 is the best choice in this situation, especially for someone
> like Gary who is still using Win 98.


I upgraded <?> my desktop with Windows 8 and my old laptop with 7 to
Windows 10 and lost my sound. I switched back. The desktop kept bugging
me to upgrade to 10 and I eventually did that, thinking that they had
fixed the sound driver problems. I was wrong. I switched back to 8.
Meanwhile, I had bought a new laptop with 8. One night I was using it
and it suddenly started an upgrade all on its own. It turned out that it
was not a minor upgrade but a change to Windows 10. It works. I will
keep it. I suppose my next desktop will be Windows 10.

On Sunday, April 24, 2016 at 5:04:57 PM UTC-5, Cheri wrote:
>
> I'm pretty sure it's the dial-up too. When I had dial up I couldn't view so
> many things and forget about YouTube completely. I have Vista, and Win7 and
> everything comes up fine.
>
> Cheri
>
>
When I had dial up I NEVER got to view any of the news stories
on my homepage. Just too much information and too much advertise-
ment accompanying those stories. I could view YouTube if I'd go
off and wash dishes or change the sheets on the bed while the
video loaded.

On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 08:12:56 +1000, Bruce© >
wrote:

>On Sun, 24 Apr 2016 15:04:25 -0700, "Cheri" >
>wrote:
>
>>
>>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>
>>> Dial-up. Slow, slow, slow. I don't believe it's your computer operating
>>> system that is the problem. <shrug>
>>>
>>I'm pretty sure it's the dial-up too. When I had dial up I couldn't view so
>>many things and forget about YouTube completely. I have Vista, and Win7 and
>>everything comes up fine.
>
>If you take your horse and carriage to the highway, you're going to
>run into problems.

Unless you're Amish.

"Bruce©" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 24 Apr 2016 15:04:25 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>
>>> Dial-up. Slow, slow, slow. I don't believe it's your computer
>>> operating
>>> system that is the problem. <shrug>
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>>I'm pretty sure it's the dial-up too. When I had dial up I couldn't view
>>so
>>many things and forget about YouTube completely. I have Vista, and Win7
>>and
>>everything comes up fine.
>
> If you take your horse and carriage to the highway, you're going to
> run into problems.
>
> --
> Bruce

Not really, I can always eat the horse if need be.

Cheri

> wrote in message
...
> On Sunday, April 24, 2016 at 5:04:57 PM UTC-5, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> I'm pretty sure it's the dial-up too. When I had dial up I couldn't view
>> so
>> many things and forget about YouTube completely. I have Vista, and Win7
>> and
>> everything comes up fine.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>>
> When I had dial up I NEVER got to view any of the news stories
> on my homepage. Just too much information and too much advertise-
> ment accompanying those stories. I could view YouTube if I'd go
> off and wash dishes or change the sheets on the bed while the
> video loaded.

Yes, looking back I don't see how I put up with it that long.

Cheri

On 24/04/2016 4:16 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-04-24 5:32 PM, Je�us wrote:
>
>>> You can still purchase new PCs
>>> loaded with Win 7 or pay to upgrade your old PC but that would be
>>> dumb.
>>> It's silly to put good money after bad,
>>
>> Ignore Sheldon's very questionable advice.
>> Well, it's complete crap, actually.
>>
>>> you'll need to obtain a
>>> Win 10 PC within months anyway
>>
>> More complete bullshit.
>>
>> Win 7 is the best choice in this situation, especially for someone
>> like Gary who is still using Win 98.
>
>
> I upgraded <?> my desktop with Windows 8 and my old laptop with 7 to
> Windows 10 and lost my sound. I switched back. The desktop kept bugging
> me to upgrade to 10 and I eventually did that, thinking that they had
> fixed the sound driver problems. I was wrong. I switched back to 8.
> Meanwhile, I had bought a new laptop with 8. One night I was using it
> and it suddenly started an upgrade all on its own. It turned out that it
> was not a minor upgrade but a change to Windows 10. It works. I will
> keep it. I suppose my next desktop will be Windows 10.
>
>
>
My son, who is very tech aware, has advised me not to upgrade to 10. He
also said that there are a lot of data gathering features in 10 that
might compromise ones privacy.

On Sun, 24 Apr 2016 15:12:10 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Sunday, April 24, 2016 at 4:32:48 PM UTC-5, Jeßus wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 24 Apr 2016 17:19:22 -0400, Brooklyn1
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >Your OS is too old and no longer being fully supported, not much to be
>> >done... time you moved to Win 10. That's why I bought a new W 10 PC,
>> >I was having problems with Win 7.
>>
>> More people have problems with Win 10 than Win 7, and by a very wide
>> margin, too.
>>
>I took the free upgrade to W-10 last year and I've found it's
>a memory hog. My laptop has 4 gigs of memory but who knows what
>all Microsoft has loaded extra into that free upgrade?

That's the thing - Win 10 does use more of your computer's resources,
and yet there isn't a whole lot in Win 10 that isn't already in Win 7,
aside from that horrible Win 10 GUI. Most people upgrading from Win 7
won't see any benefits.

>> >You can still purchase new PCs
>> >loaded with Win 7 or pay to upgrade your old PC but that would be
>> >dumb.
>>
>I *think* they are still offering the free upgrade to W-7 users
>but not for too much longer.
>>
>> >you'll need to obtain a
>> >Win 10 PC within months anyway
>>
>> More complete bullshit.
>>
>W-7 will have support for 5 more years if Gary decides to
>stay with it.

Yes. 5 years is a long time, IMO.

>I chose to go with the free W-10 upgrade as they
>offered 10 years free support. I'm glad I did but eh, it
>was a bit of aggravation at first.

I can't get past the GUI, unfortunately. I just don't like it and I
never will like it. That said, it can be changed with 'Classic shell'
http://www.classicshell.net/

>> Win 7 is the best choice in this situation, especially for someone
>> like Gary who is still using Win 98.

I still use XP on one machine here that runs my security cameras
around the property. Then again, I still have some 386 machines
running Win 3.11 (and earlier). I fire them up occasionally and go
online, just for fun.

On Sun, 24 Apr 2016 18:16:14 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2016-04-24 5:32 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>> You can still purchase new PCs
>>> loaded with Win 7 or pay to upgrade your old PC but that would be
>>> dumb.
>>> It's silly to put good money after bad,
>>
>> Ignore Sheldon's very questionable advice.
>> Well, it's complete crap, actually.
>>
>>> you'll need to obtain a
>>> Win 10 PC within months anyway
>>
>> More complete bullshit.
>>
>> Win 7 is the best choice in this situation, especially for someone
>> like Gary who is still using Win 98.
>
>I upgraded <?> my desktop with Windows 8 and my old laptop with 7 to
>Windows 10 and lost my sound. I switched back. The desktop kept bugging
>me to upgrade to 10 and I eventually did that, thinking that they had
>fixed the sound driver problems. I was wrong. I switched back to 8.
>Meanwhile, I had bought a new laptop with 8. One night I was using it
>and it suddenly started an upgrade all on its own. It turned out that it
>was not a minor upgrade but a change to Windows 10. It works. I will
>keep it. I suppose my next desktop will be Windows 10.

Your experience seems fairly typical. I'm intending to stick with
Win 7 for now and bypass Win 10 altogether. At least I hope to. I
haven't been happy with the direction Windows has been taking since
Win 8 and I may well end up moving to Linux permanently if whatever
replaces Win 10 continues along the same lines.

On 2016-04-24 6:29 PM, Je�us wrote:

> That's the thing - Win 10 does use more of your computer's resources,
> and yet there isn't a whole lot in Win 10 that isn't already in Win 7,
> aside from that horrible Win 10 GUI. Most people upgrading from Win 7
> won't see any benefits.

The biggest benefit is that they will no longer be pestered with the pop
ups telling you to upgrade to 10.
>

On Sun, 24 Apr 2016 19:06:19 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2016-04-24 6:29 PM, Je?us wrote:
>
>> That's the thing - Win 10 does use more of your computer's resources,
>> and yet there isn't a whole lot in Win 10 that isn't already in Win 7,
>> aside from that horrible Win 10 GUI. Most people upgrading from Win 7
>> won't see any benefits.
>
>The biggest benefit is that they will no longer be pestered with the pop
>ups telling you to upgrade to 10.

I've never been pestered with my Win 7, but then again mine is a
pirated copy. So I get none of the crap you pay the privilege for with
a legit copy.

On Sat, 23 Apr 2016 22:24:39 -0600, Janet B >
wrote:

>I made a Zucchini Chocolate Cake today. The oven was already hot and
>I had a portion of a pork loin thawed. I wanted something quick and
>easy.
>I winged it and came up with this.
>I made a roasted pork loin with onions, carrots and potatoes. The
>pork had been so well trimmed there was no fat. I put the veggies and
>meat in a zip type bag with about a quarter cup of corn oil and 2
>packages of Lipton Onion Soup mix, closed the bag and toss everything
>around until coated.
>I roasted everything at 375F - Convection, covered for 40 minutes. The
>internal temperature was already close to 140F. I uncovered the pan
>and let it roast for another 20 minutes or so to brown up. Removed
>from the oven at 145F.
>Photo he
>http://s1171.photobucket.com/user/ge...0yg7o.jpg.html
>Sorry, I don't do plating. We serve ourselves.
>The meat and vegetables were perfectly seasoned, not at all over
>salted. Very tasty. I've never done anything like this before, it
>was spur of the moment and turned out fine.
>Janet US

Looks darned tasty to me.

koko

--

Food is our common ground, a universal experience
James Beard

On Sun, 24 Apr 2016 18:16:14 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> I will keep it. I suppose my next desktop will be Windows 10.

Might as well get used to it because you can't live in the past - but
you can pretend you do by changing your desktop so it starts with the
classic view on bootup. Don't ask me how I did it. Google was my
friend.

--

sf

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 24 Apr 2016 19:06:19 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>>On 2016-04-24 6:29 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>
>>> That's the thing - Win 10 does use more of your computer's resources,
>>> and yet there isn't a whole lot in Win 10 that isn't already in Win 7,
>>> aside from that horrible Win 10 GUI. Most people upgrading from Win 7
>>> won't see any benefits.
>>
>>The biggest benefit is that they will no longer be pestered with the pop
>>ups telling you to upgrade to 10.
>
> I've never been pestered with my Win 7, but then again mine is a
> pirated copy. So I get none of the crap you pay the privilege for with
> a legit copy.

That is easy ...

Win 10 reminders how to stop

Go into start menu
All programmes
Windows update
At the bottom of the page click on 'installed updates'
find update KB3035583 and remove it

if you have automatic installation of updates alter that to let you choose
which updates to install and don't install this one again.

I stopped my reminders a long time ago!




--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

On 4/25/2016 12:25 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> you can use it from outside.
>
> -sw
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>
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Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw
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I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

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On 4/25/2016 12:26 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> Oh. OK. Never mind!!
>
> -sw
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>
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Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw
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There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

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On 4/25/2016 11:30 AM, Sqwertz wrote:


I have been stuffing my fat little ****ing face again with food I
'borrowed' from:

https://www.austinfoodbank.org/news/...unteer-quarter


OK I admit it, I am eating my way through Texas.

Make me a zip code, or two.

On Sunday, April 24, 2016 at 12:15:39 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-04-24 5:32 PM, Je�us wrote:
>
> >> You can still purchase new PCs
> >> loaded with Win 7 or pay to upgrade your old PC but that would be
> >> dumb.
> >> It's silly to put good money after bad,
> >
> > Ignore Sheldon's very questionable advice.
> > Well, it's complete crap, actually.
> >
> >> you'll need to obtain a
> >> Win 10 PC within months anyway
> >
> > More complete bullshit.
> >
> > Win 7 is the best choice in this situation, especially for someone
> > like Gary who is still using Win 98.
>
>
> I upgraded <?> my desktop with Windows 8 and my old laptop with 7 to
> Windows 10 and lost my sound. I switched back. The desktop kept bugging
> me to upgrade to 10 and I eventually did that, thinking that they had
> fixed the sound driver problems. I was wrong. I switched back to 8.
> Meanwhile, I had bought a new laptop with 8. One night I was using it
> and it suddenly started an upgrade all on its own. It turned out that it
> was not a minor upgrade but a change to Windows 10. It works. I will
> keep it. I suppose my next desktop will be Windows 10.

Find out who the manufacturer of your sound card is and go to their site (if they still exist) and download a current driver for Win 10 (if it exists.) I upgraded to Win 10 and found that I could not load in programming software for the widgets I sell. I called the manufacturer for help in this matter and they told me it won't load in Win 10 nor were they going to do update the software. Ha ha - I certainly wasn't expecting that answer. That's the breaks.