Janet wrote:
>
> Filthy global conspiracy revealed. The truth will out. For thousands
> of years, millions have died from not eating bayleaves.

LOL!

I looked up bay leaves recently due to all the discussions. I'm like
sf...I've never noticed a difference if I used them or not. I did read
though that you can powder them but to be careful...if you add too
much, you will get a strong taste of eucalyptus or "Vicks Vapor Rub."

If that's true, it explains why recipes use whole leaves to just get a
hint of the flavor. If that's true I also wonder WHY people use this
heinous leaf in various dishes. Mild or not, I don't want the flavor
of Vicks Vapor Rub in my food.

On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 08:25:19 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Janet wrote:
>>
>> Filthy global conspiracy revealed. The truth will out. For thousands
>> of years, millions have died from not eating bayleaves.
>
>LOL!
>
>I looked up bay leaves recently due to all the discussions. I'm like
>sf...I've never noticed a difference if I used them or not. I did read
>though that you can powder them but to be careful...if you add too
>much, you will get a strong taste of eucalyptus or "Vicks Vapor Rub."
>
>If that's true, it explains why recipes use whole leaves to just get a
>hint of the flavor. If that's true I also wonder WHY people use this
>heinous leaf in various dishes. Mild or not, I don't want the flavor
>of Vicks Vapor Rub in my food.

Many == most all? -- versions of commercial pickling spice contain
crumbled bay leaf. I wonder how many pickle eaters have died over the
centuries? And why hasn't out government done something about this
dangerous inclusion? There oughta be a law! Get my Congressman on
the phone!
Janet US

"Janet B" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 08:25:19 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>>Janet wrote:
>>>
>>> Filthy global conspiracy revealed. The truth will out. For thousands
>>> of years, millions have died from not eating bayleaves.
>>
>>LOL!
>>
>>I looked up bay leaves recently due to all the discussions. I'm like
>>sf...I've never noticed a difference if I used them or not. I did read
>>though that you can powder them but to be careful...if you add too
>>much, you will get a strong taste of eucalyptus or "Vicks Vapor Rub."
>>
>>If that's true, it explains why recipes use whole leaves to just get a
>>hint of the flavor. If that's true I also wonder WHY people use this
>>heinous leaf in various dishes. Mild or not, I don't want the flavor
>>of Vicks Vapor Rub in my food.
>
> Many == most all? -- versions of commercial pickling spice contain
> crumbled bay leaf. I wonder how many pickle eaters have died over the
> centuries? And why hasn't out government done something about this
> dangerous inclusion? There oughta be a law! Get my Congressman on
> the phone!
> Janet US

I am sure they contain chemicals that, in ridiculously high quantities, will
cause cancer in cancer prone rat species.

And no doubt they somehow contribute to global warming/climate
change/mankind is evil in whatever it does.

On 2016-04-18 10:21 AM, taxed and spent wrote:

> I am sure they contain chemicals that, in ridiculously high quantities, will
> cause cancer in cancer prone rat species.
>
> And no doubt they somehow contribute to global warming/climate
> change/mankind is evil in whatever it does.

I guess that you don't appreciate the value of testing toxicity in
ingredients and medications as some of us do. Look at the case of
Thalidomide. It was used in the 1950s and 60s for a variety of problems,
one of them being morning sickness. It was determined to be the cause
of thousands of babies being born will malformed or missing limbs. The
US FDA refused to allow it. While there were more than 10,000
Thalidomide babies born in the world, there were less than 2 dozen of
them in the US.

On 18/04/2016 8:37 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-04-18 10:21 AM, taxed and spent wrote:
>
>> I am sure they contain chemicals that, in ridiculously high
>> quantities, will
>> cause cancer in cancer prone rat species.
>>
>> And no doubt they somehow contribute to global warming/climate
>> change/mankind is evil in whatever it does.
>
> I guess that you don't appreciate the value of testing toxicity in
> ingredients and medications as some of us do. Look at the case of
> Thalidomide. It was used in the 1950s and 60s for a variety of problems,
> one of them being morning sickness. It was determined to be the cause
> of thousands of babies being born will malformed or missing limbs. The
> US FDA refused to allow it. While there were more than 10,000
> Thalidomide babies born in the world, there were less than 2 dozen of
> them in the US.
>
>
Note that it was a Canadian Dr working at the FDA who wouldn't allow it.
She died a few months ago.

On 4/18/2016 8:44 AM, graham wrote:
> Note that it was a Canadian Dr


Canucklehead drunkard?

Ayup.

On 2016-04-18 10:44 AM, graham wrote:
> On 18/04/2016 8:37 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2016-04-18 10:21 AM, taxed and spent wrote:
>>
>>> I am sure they contain chemicals that, in ridiculously high
>>> quantities, will
>>> cause cancer in cancer prone rat species.
>>>
>>> And no doubt they somehow contribute to global warming/climate
>>> change/mankind is evil in whatever it does.
>>
>> I guess that you don't appreciate the value of testing toxicity in
>> ingredients and medications as some of us do. Look at the case of
>> Thalidomide. It was used in the 1950s and 60s for a variety of problems,
>> one of them being morning sickness. It was determined to be the cause
>> of thousands of babies being born will malformed or missing limbs. The
>> US FDA refused to allow it. While there were more than 10,000
>> Thalidomide babies born in the world, there were less than 2 dozen of
>> them in the US.
>>
>>
> Note that it was a Canadian Dr working at the FDA who wouldn't allow it.
> She died a few months ago.


Yes, but the fact remains that it was the US FDA that would not allow it
on the market and, as a result, had very few victims.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2016-04-18 10:21 AM, taxed and spent wrote:
>
>> I am sure they contain chemicals that, in ridiculously high quantities,
>> will
>> cause cancer in cancer prone rat species.
>>
>> And no doubt they somehow contribute to global warming/climate
>> change/mankind is evil in whatever it does.
>
> I guess that you don't appreciate the value of testing toxicity in
> ingredients and medications as some of us do. Look at the case of
> Thalidomide. It was used in the 1950s and 60s for a variety of problems,
> one of them being morning sickness. It was determined to be the cause of
> thousands of babies being born will malformed or missing limbs. The US FDA
> refused to allow it. While there were more than 10,000 Thalidomide babies
> born in the world, there were less than 2 dozen of them in the US.
>
>

whoosh!

On 4/18/2016 8:25 AM, Gary wrote:
> Janet wrote:
>>
>> Filthy global conspiracy revealed. The truth will out. For thousands
>> of years, millions have died from not eating bayleaves.
>
> LOL!
>
> I looked up bay leaves recently due to all the discussions. I'm like
> sf...I've never noticed a difference if I used them or not. I did read
> though that you can powder them but to be careful...if you add too
> much, you will get a strong taste of eucalyptus or "Vicks Vapor Rub."
>
> If that's true, it explains why recipes use whole leaves to just get a
> hint of the flavor. If that's true I also wonder WHY people use this
> heinous leaf in various dishes. Mild or not, I don't want the flavor
> of Vicks Vapor Rub in my food.
>
You've got the wrong kind of bay leaves, Gary. I have never, EVER
tasted even a hint of eucalyptus or "Vicks" from bay leaves. They don't
smell like that, either.

Jill

Gary wrote:
>
> I looked up bay leaves recently due to all the discussions. I'm like
> sf...I've never noticed a difference if I used them or not. I did read
> though that you can powder them but to be careful...if you add too
> much, you will get a strong taste of eucalyptus or "Vicks Vapor Rub."

You must have mugged a koala bear for its lunch. lol

On 4/18/2016 8:36 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Gary wrote:
>>
>> I looked up bay leaves recently due to all the discussions. I'm like
>> sf...I've never noticed a difference if I used them or not. I did read
>> though that you can powder them but to be careful...if you add too
>> much, you will get a strong taste of eucalyptus or "Vicks Vapor Rub."
>
> You must have mugged a koala bear for its lunch. lol
>
I don't know where he gets this idea of eucalyptus or Vick's. Or his
bay leaves. They're not like any bay leaves I've ever cooked with!

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
>
> Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > Gary wrote:
> >>
> >> I looked up bay leaves recently due to all the discussions. I'm like
> >> sf...I've never noticed a difference if I used them or not. I did read
> >> though that you can powder them but to be careful...if you add too
> >> much, you will get a strong taste of eucalyptus or "Vicks Vapor Rub."
> >
> > You must have mugged a koala bear for its lunch. lol


LOL. Good one, Mr.New.Diesel.Tank. BTW...nice pics!


> I don't know where he gets this idea of eucalyptus or Vick's. Or his
> bay leaves. They're not like any bay leaves I've ever cooked with!

Did you not read what I wrote? See above... I looked up bay leaves and
only passed along what I read. Don't shoot the messenger, Jill.
http://www.seriouseats.com/2014/03/a...ay-leaves.html

Like my bay leaves, they don't smell that way and you would never know
the taste unless you make a tea like I did this morning. A couple of
bay leaves in a stew, etc will flavor it a bit but you'll never know
how.

Now that I know the real taste (from strong bay leaf tea), I can
somewhat understand the Vicks vapor rub comment although that was a
bit extreme. What I noticed is that it really resembles a clove taste
and smell. Looking into this more I see that cloves and bay leaves
share one same compound - eugenol.

Cloves have more eugenol than bay leaves. Bay leaves smell like mild
cloves to me. I was smelling both this morning. Bay leaves definitely
have a mild clove odor but they also have more complex things going on
there too.

If you want to really know what bay leaf taste is...make a tea. It's
actually not bad either.

jmcquown wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:
> > If that's true, it explains why recipes use whole leaves to just get a
> > hint of the flavor. If that's true I also wonder WHY people use this
> > heinous leaf in various dishes. Mild or not, I don't want the flavor
> > of Vicks Vapor Rub in my food.
> >
> You've got the wrong kind of bay leaves, Gary. I have never, EVER
> tasted even a hint of eucalyptus or "Vicks" from bay leaves. They don't
> smell like that, either.

Neither have I, Jill, and I DO use the right kind of bay leaves.
Laurus nobilis
I was just passing on what I read when I looked it up.

Don't you dare treat me stupid like you do Julie or I'll e-kick your
aging, southern, no-deep-frying ass. Followed by force-feeding you
some cole slaw which you hate.

In reality though, I'll bet you (and many others here) have no clue to
exactly what taste that bay leaves impart to a recipe. As of this
morning, I know exactly what it tastes like. I brewed a strong bay
leaf tea.

:-D

On 2016-04-19 9:21 AM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>

> In reality though, I'll bet you (and many others here) have no clue to
> exactly what taste that bay leaves impart to a recipe. As of this
> morning, I know exactly what it tastes like. I brewed a strong bay
> leaf tea.
>
>

I think that has been established here since several of us commented
that it is hard to identify the taste of the bay leaf but if it has been
left out the dish tastes like it is missing something.

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> On 2016-04-19 9:21 AM, Gary wrote:
> > jmcquown wrote:
> >>
>
> > In reality though, I'll bet you (and many others here) have no clue to
> > exactly what taste that bay leaves impart to a recipe. As of this
> > morning, I know exactly what it tastes like. I brewed a strong bay
> > leaf tea.
> >
> >
>
> I think that has been established here since several of us commented
> that it is hard to identify the taste of the bay leaf but if it has been
> left out the dish tastes like it is missing something.

Perhaps then it's time for all you expert cooks here to brew some bay
leaf tea, taste it, then know for a fact exactly what flavor you are
adding or not to a recipe. It's as simple as that.

On Tue, 19 Apr 2016 09:21:19 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Neither have I, Jill, and I DO use the right kind of bay leaves.
>Laurus nobilis
>I was just passing on what I read when I looked it up.
>
>Don't you dare treat me stupid like you do Julie or I'll e-kick your
>aging, southern, no-deep-frying ass. Followed by force-feeding you
>some cole slaw which you hate.
>
>In reality though, I'll bet you (and many others here) have no clue to
>exactly what taste that bay leaves impart to a recipe. As of this
>morning, I know exactly what it tastes like. I brewed a strong bay
>leaf tea.
>
>:-D

I love bay leaves in all sorts of things - but bay leaf tea???? Good
grief man, puke, puke, puke

On 4/19/2016 7:21 AM, Gary wrote:
> Don't you dare treat me stupid like you do Julie or I'll e-kick your
> aging, southern, no-deep-frying ass. Followed by force-feeding you
> some cole slaw which you hate.

Mercy!!!