On 2016-01-25 8:27 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> Our cupboards are on an outside wall of the kitchen so with the doors
> closed they are always on the cool side. I put plates in the oven to
> heat them a bit so they don't cool the food when served. Cups I'll fill
> with hot water and let them stand a few minutes.
>
> I'd put in a warming drawer if we had the space. Anyone else doing this?


Wasn't that draw under an oven originally intended as a warming drawer?I
guess modern ovens are too well insulated to do that anymore.

On 1/25/2016 3:56 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-01-25 8:27 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> Our cupboards are on an outside wall of the kitchen so with the doors
>> closed they are always on the cool side. I put plates in the oven to
>> heat them a bit so they don't cool the food when served. Cups I'll fill
>> with hot water and let them stand a few minutes.
>>
>> I'd put in a warming drawer if we had the space. Anyone else doing this?
>
>
> Wasn't that draw under an oven originally intended as a warming drawer?I
> guess modern ovens are too well insulated to do that anymore.

My Samsung range has a heated warming drawer. I won't use it. It's a
useless feature for me but somebody probably uses these things.

dsi1 wrote:
> On 1/25/2016 3:56 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2016-01-25 8:27 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> Our cupboards are on an outside wall of the kitchen so with the doors
>>> closed they are always on the cool side. I put plates in the oven to
>>> heat them a bit so they don't cool the food when served. Cups I'll fill
>>> with hot water and let them stand a few minutes.
>>>
>>> I'd put in a warming drawer if we had the space. Anyone else doing
>>> this?
>>
>>
>> Wasn't that draw under an oven originally intended as a warming drawer?I
>> guess modern ovens are too well insulated to do that anymore.
>
> My Samsung range has a heated warming drawer. I won't use it. It's a
> useless feature for me but somebody probably uses these things.

I believe the word for things like that is: stagey.

"cibola de oro" > wrote in message
...
> dsi1 wrote:

>> My Samsung range has a heated warming drawer. I won't use it. It's a
>> useless feature for me but somebody probably uses these things.
>
> I believe the word for things like that is: stagey.

Sort of like all those useless gadgets on new cars.

Cheri

Cheri wrote:
>
> "cibola de oro" > wrote in message
> ...
>> dsi1 wrote:
>
>>> My Samsung range has a heated warming drawer. I won't use it. It's a
>>> useless feature for me but somebody probably uses these things.
>>
>> I believe the word for things like that is: stagey.
>
> Sort of like all those useless gadgets on new cars.
>
> Cheri

Ayup.

On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 16:12:31 -1000, dsi1 > wrote:

> On 1/25/2016 3:56 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2016-01-25 8:27 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >> Our cupboards are on an outside wall of the kitchen so with the doors
> >> closed they are always on the cool side. I put plates in the oven to
> >> heat them a bit so they don't cool the food when served. Cups I'll fill
> >> with hot water and let them stand a few minutes.
> >>
> >> I'd put in a warming drawer if we had the space. Anyone else doing this?
> >
> >
> > Wasn't that draw under an oven originally intended as a warming drawer?I
> > guess modern ovens are too well insulated to do that anymore.
>
> My Samsung range has a heated warming drawer. I won't use it. It's a
> useless feature for me but somebody probably uses these things.

You're in Hawaii where it's always warm anyway.

--

sf

On Monday, January 25, 2016 at 7:56:40 PM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> On 2016-01-25 8:27 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >
> > I'd put in a warming drawer if we had the space. Anyone else doing this?
>
>
> Wasn't that draw under an oven originally intended as a warming drawer? I
> guess modern ovens are too well insulated to do that anymore.
>
>
My mother had a gas range and her drawer under the oven was the
broiler.

On Monday, January 25, 2016 at 10:08:29 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> On Monday, January 25, 2016 at 7:56:40 PM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> > On 2016-01-25 8:27 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > >
> > > I'd put in a warming drawer if we had the space. Anyone else doing this?
> >
> >
> > Wasn't that draw under an oven originally intended as a warming drawer? I
> > guess modern ovens are too well insulated to do that anymore.
> >
> >
> My mother had a gas range and her drawer under the oven was the
> broiler.

I have a gas range, and the drawer under the oven is a warming drawer.
However, I use it for storing cookie sheets and stuff. My dish storage
is on an interior wall, anyway, so they stay pretty warm.

Cindy Hamilton

On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 03:35:43 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

> My dish storage
> is on an interior wall, anyway, so they stay pretty warm.

Mine is too, but my dishes are still cold to the touch - so I take the
chill off in the oven when I want food to stay hot on the plate
without overcooking.

--

sf

On Tuesday, January 26, 2016 at 6:46:32 AM UTC-5, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 03:35:43 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> > My dish storage
> > is on an interior wall, anyway, so they stay pretty warm.
>
> Mine is too, but my dishes are still cold to the touch - so I take the
> chill off in the oven when I want food to stay hot on the plate
> without overcooking.

Ah, well. I don't care that much about food staying hot. I
generally have to wait for it to cool before I can eat it,
anyway. A plate at 71 F just speeds that along.

Cindy Hamilton

On Tuesday, January 26, 2016 at 8:10:39 AM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 26, 2016 at 6:46:32 AM UTC-5, sf wrote:
> > On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 03:35:43 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > My dish storage
> > > is on an interior wall, anyway, so they stay pretty warm.
> >
> > Mine is too, but my dishes are still cold to the touch - so I take the
> > chill off in the oven when I want food to stay hot on the plate
> > without overcooking.
>
> Ah, well. I don't care that much about food staying hot. I
> generally have to wait for it to cool before I can eat it,
> anyway. A plate at 71 F just speeds that along.

I think that some folks like to burn their mouths. When I take a pizza
out of the oven, I go check my email, or this NG or Facebook, something
to kill some time.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

--Bryan

On 1/26/2016 9:45 AM, MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 26, 2016 at 8:10:39 AM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Tuesday, January 26, 2016 at 6:46:32 AM UTC-5, sf wrote:
>>> On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 03:35:43 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> My dish storage
>>>> is on an interior wall, anyway, so they stay pretty warm.
>>>
>>> Mine is too, but my dishes are still cold to the touch - so I take the
>>> chill off in the oven when I want food to stay hot on the plate
>>> without overcooking.
>>
>> Ah, well. I don't care that much about food staying hot. I
>> generally have to wait for it to cool before I can eat it,
>> anyway. A plate at 71 F just speeds that along.
>
> I think that some folks like to burn their mouths. When I take a pizza
> out of the oven, I go check my email, or this NG or Facebook, something
> to kill some time.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> --Bryan
>

Very true with some foods like pizza, but with an egg, I want a warm
plate to put it on.

MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote:
> When I take a pizza
> out of the oven, I go check my email, or this NG or Facebook, something
> to kill some time.

Fess up, you masturbate over this:

https://www.austinfoodbank.org/news/...unteer-quarter

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 26, 2016 at 6:46:32 AM UTC-5, sf wrote:
>> On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 03:35:43 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> My dish storage
>>> is on an interior wall, anyway, so they stay pretty warm.
>>
>> Mine is too, but my dishes are still cold to the touch - so I take the
>> chill off in the oven when I want food to stay hot on the plate
>> without overcooking.
>
> Ah, well. I don't care that much about food staying hot. I
> generally have to wait for it to cool before I can eat it,
> anyway. A plate at 71 F just speeds that along.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
Leave it out on the porch and keep the fdogs in...

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> wrote:
> > My mother had a gas range and her drawer under the oven was the
> > broiler.
>
> I have a gas range, and the drawer under the oven is a warming drawer.
> However, I use it for storing cookie sheets and stuff.

My gas stove also has a drawer underneath. Like itsjoan, mine is the
broiler. You don't want to store things down there.

The very few times I've needed to warm plates, and more often bowls, I
just get the hot water going then stack them in a clean sink soaking
in hot water. Takes like 30 seconds to dry off 4 plates or bowls right
before serving.

On the opposite side - whenever I want to eat cereal, I like it to
stay very cold. I'll put the bowl and also the cereal itself in the
fridge or freezer.

On Tuesday, January 26, 2016 at 9:13:28 AM UTC-6, Gary wrote:
>
> > wrote:
>
> > > My mother had a gas range and her drawer under the oven was the
> > > broiler.
> >
> My gas stove also has a drawer underneath. Like itsjoan, mine is the
> broiler. You don't want to store things down there.
>
>
The drawer on my gas stove is a storage drawer. On my mother's
stove it was the broiler.

The drawer on my two year old stove is a bit smaller than the
drawer that was on my glass cooktop stove. But that's because
the oven itself is larger and I installed a pot rack over
the kitchen window to make up for that lost storage space.
That has worked out quite well.

On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 19:08:24 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>On Monday, January 25, 2016 at 7:56:40 PM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> On 2016-01-25 8:27 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> >
>> > I'd put in a warming drawer if we had the space. Anyone else doing this?
>>
>>
>> Wasn't that draw under an oven originally intended as a warming drawer? I
>> guess modern ovens are too well insulated to do that anymore.
>>
>>
>My mother had a gas range and her drawer under the oven was the
>broiler.

That was an ancient gas stove, it's been some 40 years since gas
stoves were made with the broiler in a bottom compartment, that was
back when gas stoves still had pilot lights. The newer gas stoves
have the broiler inside the oven compartment, at the top of the
oven... much safer and makes for easy cleaning with the clean cycle.

Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> > wrote:
> >My mother had a gas range and her drawer under the oven was the
> >broiler.
>
> That was an ancient gas stove, it's been some 40 years since gas
> stoves were made with the broiler in a bottom compartment, that was
> back when gas stoves still had pilot lights.

Gee whiz, Sheldon...you just described my gas stove perfectly!
I love it still. And with the nifty pilot light, it also doubles
as an overnight yogurt maker and a dehydrator.

On 1/26/2016 7:59 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> call the cops and get
> Gary a new oven!
>
> -sw
You criminally STALK and ABUSE women, you sick little dwarfy man!

Here's what you did when you went all over the Usenet impersonating the
well-liked regular named "sf" and posting all her personal data on the
net against her will, including her:

* home address
* age
* cell phone number
* husband's name

etc.

YOU did that, you evil *******!

And then you had the hubris to actually GLOAT about in public saying:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:18:00 -0600
MicroPlanet-Gravity/3.0.4



She should call the cops. I've already publicly admitted it is me so
a conviction should be a piece of cake and then forging would stop.
So what's stopping her? I think she suffers from Bovism - she just
loves the attention and drama and screw the rest of the group.

-sw

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


And before that you literally stalked poor Omelet, a local Auustin
favorite, right off the Usenet!

In your worst moment ever you actually begged her to KILL you:

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ost
>
3/18/2011 3:49 PM
Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162
readnews.com - News for Geeks and ISPs
fa35d278.newsreader.readnews.com


Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

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Then after having your nose rubbed in your filthy criminal stalking you
came back with, not an apology, nor the slightest remorse, just this:


"The facebook group is much more pleasant."


But we all know that's only because you cower over there in mortal fear
of being booted by the FB admins.

You're _so done_ here virus, I mean really ****ing done.

I'm making you a project like no other, expect a lot more of your evil
abuse and hatred to be aired for all to see here.

And we both know there's a google archive full of your hatred of women
just waiting to be hung out on the virtual clothesline to dry.

Enjoy then, you rotten, worthless misogynistic *******!

On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 09:50:08 -0500, Brooklyn1
> wrote:

>>My mother had a gas range and her drawer under the oven was the
>>broiler.
>
>That was an ancient gas stove, it's been some 40 years since gas
>stoves were made with the broiler in a bottom compartment,

LOL. Practically every gas stove I've seen has one, whether they are
brand new or old.

On Tuesday, January 26, 2016 at 1:51:36 PM UTC-6, Jeßus wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 09:50:08 -0500, Brooklyn1
> > wrote:
>
> >>My mother had a gas range and her drawer under the oven was the
> >>broiler.
> >
> >That was an ancient gas stove, it's been some 40 years since gas
> >stoves were made with the broiler in a bottom compartment,
>
> LOL. Practically every gas stove I've seen has one, whether they are
> brand new or old.

My drawer is just a drawer. The broiling fire is in the top of the oven,
under the range top.

--Bryan

On Tuesday, January 26, 2016 at 8:50:15 AM UTC-6, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 19:08:24 -0800 (PST), "
> > wrote:
>
> >My mother had a gas range and her drawer under the oven was the
> >broiler.
>
> That was an ancient gas stove, it's been some 40 years since gas
> stoves were made with the broiler in a bottom compartment, that was
> back when gas stoves still had pilot lights. The newer gas stoves
> have the broiler inside the oven compartment, at the top of the
> oven... much safer and makes for easy cleaning with the clean cycle.
>
>
Yes, it was. It had no electronic ignition as mine does;
it had pilot lights on each burner and one in the oven
as well.

My stove that I bought almost two years ago has the 'glow
bar' to ignite the oven and of course electronic ignition
for the burners. It also has the "Sabbath Mode" which I
haven't spent any time learning about. If I lose power
I can still use the burners to cook with, they would just
be lit with a match but no oven.

On 1/25/2016 10:08 PM, wrote:
> On Monday, January 25, 2016 at 7:56:40 PM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> On 2016-01-25 8:27 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>
>>> I'd put in a warming drawer if we had the space. Anyone else doing this?
>>
>>
>> Wasn't that draw under an oven originally intended as a warming drawer? I
>> guess modern ovens are too well insulated to do that anymore.
>>
>>
> My mother had a gas range and her drawer under the oven was the
> broiler.
>
Sounds like a fairly old gas range. I had one like that in an apartment
many years ago.

Jill

On Tuesday, January 26, 2016 at 12:26:16 PM UTC-6, Jill McQuown wrote:
>
> On 1/25/2016 10:08 PM, wrote:
> >>
> > My mother had a gas range and her drawer under the oven was the
> > broiler.
> >
> Sounds like a fairly old gas range. I had one like that in an apartment
> many years ago.
>
> Jill
>
>
It was. It was purchased around 1951 and was still going
strong until she had to go in the nursing home.

When I moved away from home I burned several pans of food
until I got the hang of an electric stove. Going back to
a gas range was a bit of an adjustment as well. I had to
get used to that instant response from the burners. But
it was sorta like riding a bicycle; it all came back to
me.

:-))

On 1/27/2016 12:52 AM, wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 26, 2016 at 12:26:16 PM UTC-6, Jill McQuown wrote:
>>
>> On 1/25/2016 10:08 PM, wrote:
>>>>
>>> My mother had a gas range and her drawer under the oven was the
>>> broiler.
>>>
>> Sounds like a fairly old gas range. I had one like that in an apartment
>> many years ago.
>>
>> Jill
>>
>>
> It was. It was purchased around 1951 and was still going
> strong until she had to go in the nursing home.
>
Yep, I'm pretty sure mine was circa the 1950's or early 60's. Ditto the
refrigerator. They both still worked just fine. It was fitting,
actually, since the apartment building was built in the 1920's. There
was a butler's pantry with a little door at the bottom into the hallway
for the milkman to use.

> When I moved away from home I burned several pans of food
> until I got the hang of an electric stove. Going back to
> a gas range was a bit of an adjustment as well. I had to
> get used to that instant response from the burners. But
> it was sorta like riding a bicycle; it all came back to
> me.
>
> :-))
>
I grew up with electric but the adjustment to that old gas stove wasn't
difficult. The adjustment for me was getting used to my current
electric range vs. the electric one in my last apartment. They're all
different.

Oh, and the drawers under all the electric ones I can recall were not
warming drawers, they were for extra storage.

Jill

itsjoannotjoann wrote:
>
>It was. It was purchased around 1951 and was still going
>strong until she had to go in the nursing home.
>
>When I moved away from home I burned several pans of food
>until I got the hang of an electric stove. Going back to
>a gas range was a bit of an adjustment as well. I had to
>get used to that instant response from the burners. But
>it was sorta like riding a bicycle; it all came back to
>me.
>
>:-))

Isn't it more like sex... after going without for a while just hop on
and it all comes back instantly.

On Wednesday, January 27, 2016 at 12:45:38 PM UTC-6, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> itsjoannotjoann wrote:
> >
> >When I moved away from home I burned several pans of food
> >until I got the hang of an electric stove. Going back to
> >a gas range was a bit of an adjustment as well. I had to
> >get used to that instant response from the burners. But
> >it was sorta like riding a bicycle; it all came back to
> >me.
> >
> >:-))
>
> Isn't it more like sex... after going without for a while just hop on
> and it all comes back instantly.
>
>
Yep.

Brooklyn1 wrote:
> itsjoannotjoann wrote:
>>
>> It was. It was purchased around 1951 and was still going
>> strong until she had to go in the nursing home.
>>
>> When I moved away from home I burned several pans of food
>> until I got the hang of an electric stove. Going back to
>> a gas range was a bit of an adjustment as well. I had to
>> get used to that instant response from the burners. But
>> it was sorta like riding a bicycle; it all came back to
>> me.
>>
>> :-))
>
> Isn't it more like sex... after going without for a while just hop on
> and it all comes nstantly.
>

No stamina, old man?

On 1/25/2016 8:56 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-01-25 8:27 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> Our cupboards are on an outside wall of the kitchen so with the doors
>> closed they are always on the cool side. I put plates in the oven to
>> heat them a bit so they don't cool the food when served. Cups I'll fill
>> with hot water and let them stand a few minutes.
>>
>> I'd put in a warming drawer if we had the space. Anyone else doing this?
>
>
> Wasn't that draw under an oven originally intended as a warming drawer?I
> guess modern ovens are too well insulated to do that anymore.

That bottom drawer was either the broiler or just a drawer in
all of my ranges until this one. I have a warming drawer now
but I don't use it much at all, even though I have a similar
problem with the dishes being on an outside wall. I just take
them out early.

nancy