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On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 09:27:29 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote: > > > "sf" > wrote in message > news  > > On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 10:43:09 -0700, cibola de oro > wrote: > > > >> wrote: > >> > I have instant hot water, none is wasted here. > >> > >> You brag like the spoiled rich bitch who went to Swiss boarding school, > >> you risible ****. > > > > She should preface her just use "hot water" puffery with the fact that > > the suggestion only works for water wasters and those with an instant > > hot water dispenser. > > Why is it puffery??? Is an instant water heater so unusual in the US??? Yes. -- sf |
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On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 12:35:22 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote: > Ok! We used to have a tank like the one you describe ... over 30 years ago. > The boiler I have now is common here. Nobody uses a boiler for heat other than old and out of date apartments in big cities. -- sf |
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On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 09:52:47 -0500, Gary > wrote:
> Nancy Young wrote: > > > > On 1/27/2016 6:54 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > > > > When I run water down the drain, it isn't wasted. It's treated, > > > discharged into Lake Erie (via the Huron River), and is then available > > > for Toledo, Cleveland, Buffalo and points east. Our water authority > > > brags that it's cleaner after it leaves the wastewater treatment plant > > > than it was when it entered the water treatment plant in Lake St. Clair. > > > > My problem is that it does not go where it's needed ... back into the > > reservoir. I pass by it all the time, it's only a mile or so from my > > house, and when you see a lot of shoreline and 'sand bars' you know > > we're running low on fresh water. > > > > Our sewage is, of course, treated, then sent out into the ocean where it > > would have gone on its own anyway. > > Waste water, no matter what happens to it, is still recycled and > renewed. It doesn't go down the drain right into outer space. Ocean > water and polluted water still evaporates and comes back down as clean > rain water. It's not free. When you waste water, your money goes down the drain with it. -- sf |
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"S Viemeister" > wrote in message ... > On 1/27/2016 2:46 PM, Ophelia wrote: >> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message >>> Actually it's not the same, an on demand tankless water heater is only >>> for hot water, not house heating. I had one installed two years ago, >>> it long ago paid for itself by cutting my water heating energy use by >>> 2/3... and takes very little space, it's about the size of a desk top >>> PC... mine is on my basement wall, in warmer climates it can be >>> outdoors. >>> https://www.rinnai.us/tankless-water-heater >> Mine isn't much bigger than a desktop computer and it does serve the >> house >> heating as well as the hot water. Oh and it hangs on the wall in a >> cupboard. >> > Ours is a bit bigger - no mains gas available, so we have oil, and we had > the unit installed outside the utility room. All the insulation makes it > considerably bigger, but it isn't taking up space in our little house. It runs the heating as well as the hot water though the same as mine, yes? > -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message ... > On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 19:46:43 -0000, "Ophelia" > > wrote: > >> >> >>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message . .. >>> On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 09:21:44 -0000, "Ophelia" > >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>"Nancy Young" > wrote in message ... >>>>> On 1/26/2016 4:17 PM, wrote: >>>>>> On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 15:12:31 -0500, Nancy Young >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 1/26/2016 12:40 PM, wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 12:01:34 -0500, Nancy Young >>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>>> I have instant hot water, none is wasted here. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That's a nice feature, but most people don't have that. >>>>> >>>>>> I mentioned it really because sf was accusatory and actually I am >>>>>> very >>>>>> good at not wasting  >>>>> >>>>> I get it, but when you live with drought, it sensitizes you to >>>>> the idea of just running water down the drain for nothing. >>>>> Like the moisturizer I use, it says to put it on and rinse it >>>>> off. Then wash the tub. Like they're on a mission to drain all >>>>> the reservoirs. Somehow I get by using less and not rinsing off >>>>> the 'extra.' >>>>> >>>>>> My power bill is a fraction of some friends, >>>>>> but then they go from room to room leaving lights on etc. I also >>>>>> loathe to turn the oven on for just one item etc etc. >>>>> >>>>> Sorry if I seemed to be jumping on you, I didn't mean it to >>>>> be personally directed at you. >>>>> >>>>>> If I was still in a house I would install one of those on demand >>>>>> water >>>>>> heating thingies, they are very good. >>>>> >>>>> I have considered those, though I am sure spending a lot of money >>>>> on that would be a hard sell. >>>> >>>>Do you mean a 'combi boiler'? Believe me, they are worth every penny!! >>>> >>>>https://www.worcester-bosch.co.uk/ar...a-combi-boiler >>> >>> Actually it's not the same, an on demand tankless water heater is only >>> for hot water, not house heating. I had one installed two years ago, >>> it long ago paid for itself by cutting my water heating energy use by >>> 2/3... and takes very little space, it's about the size of a desk top >>> PC... mine is on my basement wall, in warmer climates it can be >>> outdoors. >>> https://www.rinnai.us/tankless-water-heater >> >> >>Mine isn't much bigger than a desktop computer and it does serve the house >>heating as well as the hot water. Oh and it hangs on the wall in a >>cupboard. > > All I can think is you're in a location of much more mild weather... > your system wouldn't work here where temperatures in winter are often > in the minuses, as in below zero F. LOL I am in Scotland!!!! These things are commonplace btw. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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"sf" > wrote in message ... > On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 09:27:29 -0000, "Ophelia" > > wrote: > >> >> >> "sf" > wrote in message >> news >> > On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 10:43:09 -0700, cibola de oro > wrote: >> > >> >> wrote: >> >> > I have instant hot water, none is wasted here. >> >> >> >> You brag like the spoiled rich bitch who went to Swiss boarding >> >> school, >> >> you risible ****. >> > >> > She should preface her just use "hot water" puffery with the fact that >> > the suggestion only works for water wasters and those with an instant >> > hot water dispenser. >> >> Why is it puffery??? Is an instant water heater so unusual in the US??? > > Yes. It is odd. I always though USA was far ahead of us technologically yet in many things, you are far behind. I don't understand it! As for simple instant water heaters, we had them in the 50s. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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"sf" > wrote in message ... > On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 12:35:22 -0000, "Ophelia" > > wrote: > >> Ok! We used to have a tank like the one you describe ... over 30 years >> ago. >> The boiler I have now is common here. > > Nobody uses a boiler for heat other than old and out of date > apartments in big cities. > And do the boilers you describe give instant hot water and heating? -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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On Wednesday, January 27, 2016 at 12:45:38 PM UTC-6, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > itsjoannotjoann wrote: > > > >When I moved away from home I burned several pans of food > >until I got the hang of an electric stove. Going back to > >a gas range was a bit of an adjustment as well. I had to > >get used to that instant response from the burners. But > >it was sorta like riding a bicycle; it all came back to > >me. > > > >:-)) > > Isn't it more like sex... after going without for a while just hop on > and it all comes back instantly.  > > Yep. |
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"Ophelia" > wrote in message ... > >>>> Actually it's not the same, an on demand tankless water heater is only >>>> for hot water, not house heating. I had one installed two years ago, >>>> it long ago paid for itself by cutting my water heating energy use by >>>> 2/3... and takes very little space, it's about the size of a desk top >>>> PC... mine is on my basement wall, in warmer climates it can be >>>> outdoors. >>>> https://www.rinnai.us/tankless-water-heater >>> >>> >>>Mine isn't much bigger than a desktop computer and it does serve the >>>house >>>heating as well as the hot water. Oh and it hangs on the wall in a >>>cupboard. >> >> All I can think is you're in a location of much more mild weather... >> your system wouldn't work here where temperatures in winter are often >> in the minuses, as in below zero F. > > LOL I am in Scotland!!!! These things are commonplace btw. Just to add, are you aware we are on the same latitude as Moscow? -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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On Thursday, January 28, 2016 at 2:14:22 AM UTC-5, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 12:35:22 -0000, "Ophelia" > > wrote: > > > Ok! We used to have a tank like the one you describe ... over 30 years ago. > > The boiler I have now is common here. > > Nobody uses a boiler for heat other than old and out of date > apartments in big cities. Hot water heating is not uncommon outside big cities, but forced-air is the most common kind. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Thursday, January 28, 2016 at 3:41:38 AM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
> "sf" > wrote in message > ... > > On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 09:27:29 -0000, "Ophelia" > > > wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> "sf" > wrote in message > >> news
> >> > On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 10:43:09 -0700, cibola de oro > wrote:> >> > > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > I have instant hot water, none is wasted here. > >> >> > >> >> You brag like the spoiled rich bitch who went to Swiss boarding > >> >> school, > >> >> you risible ****. > >> > > >> > She should preface her just use "hot water" puffery with the fact that > >> > the suggestion only works for water wasters and those with an instant > >> > hot water dispenser. > >> > >> Why is it puffery??? Is an instant water heater so unusual in the US??? > > > > Yes. > > It is odd. I always though USA was far ahead of us technologically yet in > many things, you are far behind. I don't understand it! As for simple > instant water heaters, we had them in the 50s. Fuel is cheap in the U.S., so there's no motivation to switch to higher-efficiency methods. I don't have the data on my house handy, but my husband's workshop is 800 square feet, and is heated with a natural-gas-fired forced-air system. Last month's gas bill for the shop was $48, and I'm pretty sure that about $15 of that bill was a fixed fee for the gas company's overhead. $33 to heat 800 square feet for a month is not too bad. Cindy Hamilton |
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"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message ... > On Thursday, January 28, 2016 at 3:41:38 AM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote: >> "sf" > wrote in message >> ... >> > On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 09:27:29 -0000, "Ophelia" > >> > wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> "sf" > wrote in message >> >> news
>> >> > On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 10:43:09 -0700, cibola de oro > >> >> > wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> > I have instant hot water, none is wasted here. >> >> >> >> >> >> You brag like the spoiled rich bitch who went to Swiss boarding >> >> >> school, >> >> >> you risible ****. >> >> > >> >> > She should preface her just use "hot water" puffery with the fact >> >> > that >> >> > the suggestion only works for water wasters and those with an >> >> > instant >> >> > hot water dispenser. >> >> >> >> Why is it puffery??? Is an instant water heater so unusual in the >> >> US??? >> > >> > Yes. >> >> It is odd. I always though USA was far ahead of us technologically yet >> in >> many things, you are far behind. I don't understand it! As for simple >> instant water heaters, we had them in the 50s. > > Fuel is cheap in the U.S., so there's no motivation to switch to > higher-efficiency methods. Ahh! That would explain it! Thanks! > I don't have the data on my house handy, but my husband's workshop is > 800 square feet, and is heated with a natural-gas-fired forced-air system. > Last month's gas bill for the shop was $48, and I'm pretty sure that > about $15 of that bill was a fixed fee for the gas company's overhead. > $33 to heat 800 square feet for a month is not too bad. > > Cindy Hamilton -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 23:13:20 -0800, sf > wrote:
>On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 09:27:29 -0000, "Ophelia" > >wrote: > >> >> >> "sf" > wrote in message >> news >> > On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 10:43:09 -0700, cibola de oro > wrote: >> > >> >> wrote: >> >> > I have instant hot water, none is wasted here. >> >> >> >> You brag like the spoiled rich bitch who went to Swiss boarding school, >> >> you risible ****. >> > >> > She should preface her just use "hot water" puffery with the fact that >> > the suggestion only works for water wasters and those with an instant >> > hot water dispenser. >> >> Why is it puffery??? Is an instant water heater so unusual in the US??? > >Yes. There's sf making sure I see her boyfriends garbage post while making herself out to be an idiot. It's hardly puffery when the same thing is available here and people with common sense can see the saving over a few years is immense. Happily I know USians who are every bit as interested in saving on things like that, both ways, for the purse and the environment. |
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On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 23:14:25 -0800, sf > wrote:
>On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 12:35:22 -0000, "Ophelia" > >wrote: > >> Ok! We used to have a tank like the one you describe ... over 30 years ago. >> The boiler I have now is common here. > >Nobody uses a boiler for heat other than old and out of date >apartments in big cities. Wrong again - don't judge the rest of the world by SF |
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On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 08:38:53 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote: > > >"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message .. . >> On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 19:46:43 -0000, "Ophelia" > >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message ... >>>> On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 09:21:44 -0000, "Ophelia" > >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>"Nancy Young" > wrote in message ... >>>>>> On 1/26/2016 4:17 PM, wrote: >>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 15:12:31 -0500, Nancy Young >>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 1/26/2016 12:40 PM, wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 12:01:34 -0500, Nancy Young >>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have instant hot water, none is wasted here. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That's a nice feature, but most people don't have that. >>>>>> >>>>>>> I mentioned it really because sf was accusatory and actually I am >>>>>>> very >>>>>>> good at not wasting >>>>>> >>>>>> I get it, but when you live with drought, it sensitizes you to >>>>>> the idea of just running water down the drain for nothing. >>>>>> Like the moisturizer I use, it says to put it on and rinse it >>>>>> off. Then wash the tub. Like they're on a mission to drain all >>>>>> the reservoirs. Somehow I get by using less and not rinsing off >>>>>> the 'extra.' >>>>>> >>>>>>> My power bill is a fraction of some friends, >>>>>>> but then they go from room to room leaving lights on etc. I also >>>>>>> loathe to turn the oven on for just one item etc etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sorry if I seemed to be jumping on you, I didn't mean it to >>>>>> be personally directed at you. >>>>>> >>>>>>> If I was still in a house I would install one of those on demand >>>>>>> water >>>>>>> heating thingies, they are very good. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have considered those, though I am sure spending a lot of money >>>>>> on that would be a hard sell. >>>>> >>>>>Do you mean a 'combi boiler'? Believe me, they are worth every penny!! >>>>> >>>>>https://www.worcester-bosch.co.uk/ar...a-combi-boiler >>>> >>>> Actually it's not the same, an on demand tankless water heater is only >>>> for hot water, not house heating. I had one installed two years ago, >>>> it long ago paid for itself by cutting my water heating energy use by >>>> 2/3... and takes very little space, it's about the size of a desk top >>>> PC... mine is on my basement wall, in warmer climates it can be >>>> outdoors. >>>> https://www.rinnai.us/tankless-water-heater >>> >>> >>>Mine isn't much bigger than a desktop computer and it does serve the house >>>heating as well as the hot water. Oh and it hangs on the wall in a >>>cupboard. >> >> All I can think is you're in a location of much more mild weather... >> your system wouldn't work here where temperatures in winter are often >> in the minuses, as in below zero F. > >LOL I am in Scotland!!!! These things are commonplace btw. You are on a more northerly latitude than him! |
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On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 08:52:29 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote: > > >"sf" > wrote in message .. . >> On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 12:35:22 -0000, "Ophelia" > >> wrote: >> >>> Ok! We used to have a tank like the one you describe ... over 30 years >>> ago. >>> The boiler I have now is common here. >> >> Nobody uses a boiler for heat other than old and out of date >> apartments in big cities. >> > >And do the boilers you describe give instant hot water and heating? Of course not! It's almost as though she lives on another planet, at my aunts house in the UK as you say, there is a little box, about the size of a laptop, slightly thicker and it heats all the water and rads. Win/win I would think. |
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On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 03:31:53 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote: >On Thursday, January 28, 2016 at 2:14:22 AM UTC-5, sf wrote: >> On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 12:35:22 -0000, "Ophelia" > >> wrote: >> >> > Ok! We used to have a tank like the one you describe ... over 30 years ago. >> > The boiler I have now is common here. >> >> Nobody uses a boiler for heat other than old and out of date >> apartments in big cities. > >Hot water heating is not uncommon outside big cities, but forced-air >is the most common kind. > >Cindy Hamilton Over the years and many moves I have had all sorts. I like electric but you need a super insulated house for it to be economical, but it does offer the advantage of individual room heating. However, it depends a lot (to me anyway) how electricity is produced locally. We had a forced air house for several years but I did find it was more dusty, the house was at least 80 years old, maybe all the ducting needed to be taken down and seriously cleaned. |
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On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 11:58:12 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote: > > >"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message ... >>> It is odd. I always though USA was far ahead of us technologically yet >>> in >>> many things, you are far behind. I don't understand it! As for simple >>> instant water heaters, we had them in the 50s. >> >> Fuel is cheap in the U.S., so there's no motivation to switch to >> higher-efficiency methods. > >Ahh! That would explain it! Thanks! Yes it does. The motivation is here to use other methods. My younger daughter recently put a heat pump in her house and says the savings were great, now she is considering adding one upstairs as well. Apparently with those the main thing is to have someone install it who really knows what they are doing, placing is crucial. > > >> I don't have the data on my house handy, but my husband's workshop is >> 800 square feet, and is heated with a natural-gas-fired forced-air system. >> Last month's gas bill for the shop was $48, and I'm pretty sure that >> about $15 of that bill was a fixed fee for the gas company's overhead. >> $33 to heat 800 square feet for a month is not too bad. >> >> Cindy Hamilton |
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> wrote in message ... > On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 08:38:53 -0000, "Ophelia" > > wrote: > >> >> >>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message . .. >>> On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 19:46:43 -0000, "Ophelia" > >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message m... >>>>> On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 09:21:44 -0000, "Ophelia" > >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>"Nancy Young" > wrote in message ... >>>>>>> On 1/26/2016 4:17 PM, wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 15:12:31 -0500, Nancy Young >>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 1/26/2016 12:40 PM, wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 12:01:34 -0500, Nancy Young >>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have instant hot water, none is wasted here. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That's a nice feature, but most people don't have that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I mentioned it really because sf was accusatory and actually I am >>>>>>>> very >>>>>>>> good at not wasting >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I get it, but when you live with drought, it sensitizes you to >>>>>>> the idea of just running water down the drain for nothing. >>>>>>> Like the moisturizer I use, it says to put it on and rinse it >>>>>>> off. Then wash the tub. Like they're on a mission to drain all >>>>>>> the reservoirs. Somehow I get by using less and not rinsing off >>>>>>> the 'extra.' >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My power bill is a fraction of some friends, >>>>>>>> but then they go from room to room leaving lights on etc. I also >>>>>>>> loathe to turn the oven on for just one item etc etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sorry if I seemed to be jumping on you, I didn't mean it to >>>>>>> be personally directed at you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If I was still in a house I would install one of those on demand >>>>>>>> water >>>>>>>> heating thingies, they are very good. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have considered those, though I am sure spending a lot of money >>>>>>> on that would be a hard sell. >>>>>> >>>>>>Do you mean a 'combi boiler'? Believe me, they are worth every >>>>>>penny!! >>>>>> >>>>>>https://www.worcester-bosch.co.uk/ar...a-combi-boiler >>>>> >>>>> Actually it's not the same, an on demand tankless water heater is only >>>>> for hot water, not house heating. I had one installed two years ago, >>>>> it long ago paid for itself by cutting my water heating energy use by >>>>> 2/3... and takes very little space, it's about the size of a desk top >>>>> PC... mine is on my basement wall, in warmer climates it can be >>>>> outdoors. >>>>> https://www.rinnai.us/tankless-water-heater >>>> >>>> >>>>Mine isn't much bigger than a desktop computer and it does serve the >>>>house >>>>heating as well as the hot water. Oh and it hangs on the wall in a >>>>cupboard. >>> >>> All I can think is you're in a location of much more mild weather... >>> your system wouldn't work here where temperatures in winter are often >>> in the minuses, as in below zero F. >> >>LOL I am in Scotland!!!! These things are commonplace btw. > > You are on a more northerly latitude than him! As I have already said, we are on the same latitude as Moscow. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > Gary wrote: > > BTW, even the most severe deserts in the world get a bit of rain. No > > where does it not rain in a year or more. > > > > And as always some a-hole has to prove it wrong > > The Atacama Desert is so dry and sterile, that NASA uses the region for > the testing of its interplanetary rovers, because it is the place most > similar to the surface of Mars on Earth. Average rainfall is listed as > less than 1 mm per year, although that depends on the region, as some > parts of the Atacama Desert experience rainfall only two to four times > per century, with some areas not having seen a single drop for 500 years. You were not being an a-hole at all, Ed. I stand corrected and it was interesting to read about that area. There are so many different areas on our planet, it's a shame that we don't have many more documentaries on unknown out-of-the-way places. So many documentary shows often rehash the more well known areas. There are many wildlife docs but after a while, they turn <yawn>. I much prefer docs that concentrate on history and geology of a certain area. I've watched a few lately. nice |
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On 1/28/2016 3:37 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> "S Viemeister" > wrote >> On 1/27/2016 2:46 PM, Ophelia wrote: >>> Mine isn't much bigger than a desktop computer and it does serve the >>> house heating as well as the hot water. Oh and it hangs on the wall in a >>> cupboard. >> Ours is a bit bigger - no mains gas available, so we have oil, and we >> had the unit installed outside the utility room. All the insulation >> makes it considerably bigger, but it isn't taking up space in our >> little house. > It runs the heating as well as the hot water though the same as mine, yes? Yes, it does. It replaced the back boiler in the living room fireplace, the Rayburn in the kitchen, the water cylinder in the hall cupboard, and the two tanks in the loft. Re-routing the pipework, adding a new trap door in the pantry, decommissioning the two boilers, removing the old tanks and cylinder, and making the fireplace safe to use again made it a bigger job than just switching boilers - oh, and the concrete pad for the boiler to sit on, and they bored a hole for the vent for my clothes dryer, and fitted it for me. They also had to redo the oil line, as the existing line had been somewhat bodged - once the line from the oil tank went underground, the previous installers had switched to cheap blue plastic water pipe, then switched again to copper where it came up to the house. It was leaking at the bodged-up joints. My supplier said the job would take three days. It did, and they cleaned up after themselves, too. They balanced the radiators, and installed thermostatic valves on most of them, too. |
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Ophelia wrote:
> > > wrote in message > ... > > On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 08:38:53 -0000, "Ophelia" > > > wrote: > > > >> > >> > >>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message > . .. > >>> On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 19:46:43 -0000, "Ophelia" > > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message > m... > >>>>> On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 09:21:44 -0000, "Ophelia" > > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>"Nancy Young" > wrote in message > ... > >>>>>>> On 1/26/2016 4:17 PM, wrote: > >>>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 15:12:31 -0500, Nancy Young > >>>>>>>> > wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On 1/26/2016 12:40 PM, wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 12:01:34 -0500, Nancy Young > >>>>>>>>>> > wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I have instant hot water, none is wasted here. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> That's a nice feature, but most people don't have that. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I mentioned it really because sf was accusatory and actually I am > >>>>>>>> very > >>>>>>>> good at not wasting > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I get it, but when you live with drought, it sensitizes you to > >>>>>>> the idea of just running water down the drain for nothing. > >>>>>>> Like the moisturizer I use, it says to put it on and rinse it > >>>>>>> off. Then wash the tub. Like they're on a mission to drain all > >>>>>>> the reservoirs. Somehow I get by using less and not rinsing off > >>>>>>> the 'extra.' > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> My power bill is a fraction of some friends, > >>>>>>>> but then they go from room to room leaving lights on etc. I also > >>>>>>>> loathe to turn the oven on for just one item etc etc. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Sorry if I seemed to be jumping on you, I didn't mean it to > >>>>>>> be personally directed at you. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> If I was still in a house I would install one of those on demand > >>>>>>>> water > >>>>>>>> heating thingies, they are very good. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I have considered those, though I am sure spending a lot of money > >>>>>>> on that would be a hard sell. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Do you mean a 'combi boiler'? Believe me, they are worth every > >>>>>>penny!! > >>>>>> > >>>>>>https://www.worcester-bosch.co.uk/ar...a-combi-boiler > >>>>> > >>>>> Actually it's not the same, an on demand tankless water heater is only > >>>>> for hot water, not house heating. I had one installed two years ago, > >>>>> it long ago paid for itself by cutting my water heating energy use by > >>>>> 2/3... and takes very little space, it's about the size of a desk top > >>>>> PC... mine is on my basement wall, in warmer climates it can be > >>>>> outdoors. > >>>>> https://www.rinnai.us/tankless-water-heater > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>Mine isn't much bigger than a desktop computer and it does serve the > >>>>house > >>>>heating as well as the hot water. Oh and it hangs on the wall in a > >>>>cupboard. > >>> > >>> All I can think is you're in a location of much more mild weather... > >>> your system wouldn't work here where temperatures in winter are often > >>> in the minuses, as in below zero F. > >> > >>LOL I am in Scotland!!!! These things are commonplace btw. > > > > You are on a more northerly latitude than him! > > As I have already said, we are on the same latitude as Moscow. Keep in mind though - you do still get some warming effect from the Gulf Stream and Moscow does not. |
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"S Viemeister" > wrote in message ... > On 1/28/2016 3:37 AM, Ophelia wrote: >> "S Viemeister" > wrote >>> On 1/27/2016 2:46 PM, Ophelia wrote: >>>> Mine isn't much bigger than a desktop computer and it does serve the >>>> house heating as well as the hot water. Oh and it hangs on the wall in >>>> a >>>> cupboard. >>> Ours is a bit bigger - no mains gas available, so we have oil, and we >>> had the unit installed outside the utility room. All the insulation >>> makes it considerably bigger, but it isn't taking up space in our >>> little house. >> It runs the heating as well as the hot water though the same as mine, >> yes? > > Yes, it does. It replaced the back boiler in the living room fireplace, > the Rayburn in the kitchen, the water cylinder in the hall cupboard, and > the two tanks in the loft. > Re-routing the pipework, adding a new trap door in the pantry, > decommissioning the two boilers, removing the old tanks and cylinder, and > making the fireplace safe to use again made it a bigger job than just > switching boilers - oh, and the concrete pad for the boiler to sit on, and > they bored a hole for the vent for my clothes dryer, and fitted it for me. > They also had to redo the oil line, as the existing line had been somewhat > bodged - once the line from the oil tank went underground, the previous > installers had switched to cheap blue plastic water pipe, then switched > again to copper where it came up to the house. It was leaking at the > bodged-up joints. My supplier said the job would take three days. It did, > and they cleaned up after themselves, too. They balanced the radiators, > and installed thermostatic valves on most of them, too. Excellent )-- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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"Gary" > wrote in message ... > Ophelia wrote: >> >> > wrote in message >> ... >> > On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 08:38:53 -0000, "Ophelia" > >> > wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message >> . .. >> >>> On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 19:46:43 -0000, "Ophelia" > >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message >> m... >> >>>>> On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 09:21:44 -0000, "Ophelia" >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>"Nancy Young" > wrote in message >> ... >> >>>>>>> On 1/26/2016 4:17 PM, wrote: >> >>>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 15:12:31 -0500, Nancy Young >> >>>>>>>> > wrote: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> On 1/26/2016 12:40 PM, wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 12:01:34 -0500, Nancy Young >> >>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> I have instant hot water, none is wasted here. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> That's a nice feature, but most people don't have that. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> I mentioned it really because sf was accusatory and actually I >> >>>>>>>> am >> >>>>>>>> very >> >>>>>>>> good at not wasting >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> I get it, but when you live with drought, it sensitizes you to >> >>>>>>> the idea of just running water down the drain for nothing. >> >>>>>>> Like the moisturizer I use, it says to put it on and rinse it >> >>>>>>> off. Then wash the tub. Like they're on a mission to drain all >> >>>>>>> the reservoirs. Somehow I get by using less and not rinsing off >> >>>>>>> the 'extra.' >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> My power bill is a fraction of some friends, >> >>>>>>>> but then they go from room to room leaving lights on etc. I >> >>>>>>>> also >> >>>>>>>> loathe to turn the oven on for just one item etc etc. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Sorry if I seemed to be jumping on you, I didn't mean it to >> >>>>>>> be personally directed at you. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> If I was still in a house I would install one of those on demand >> >>>>>>>> water >> >>>>>>>> heating thingies, they are very good. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> I have considered those, though I am sure spending a lot of money >> >>>>>>> on that would be a hard sell. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>Do you mean a 'combi boiler'? Believe me, they are worth every >> >>>>>>penny!! >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>https://www.worcester-bosch.co.uk/ar...a-combi-boiler >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Actually it's not the same, an on demand tankless water heater is >> >>>>> only >> >>>>> for hot water, not house heating. I had one installed two years >> >>>>> ago, >> >>>>> it long ago paid for itself by cutting my water heating energy use >> >>>>> by >> >>>>> 2/3... and takes very little space, it's about the size of a desk >> >>>>> top >> >>>>> PC... mine is on my basement wall, in warmer climates it can be >> >>>>> outdoors. >> >>>>> https://www.rinnai.us/tankless-water-heater >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>Mine isn't much bigger than a desktop computer and it does serve the >> >>>>house >> >>>>heating as well as the hot water. Oh and it hangs on the wall in a >> >>>>cupboard. >> >>> >> >>> All I can think is you're in a location of much more mild weather... >> >>> your system wouldn't work here where temperatures in winter are often >> >>> in the minuses, as in below zero F. >> >> >> >>LOL I am in Scotland!!!! These things are commonplace btw. >> > >> > You are on a more northerly latitude than him! >> >> As I have already said, we are on the same latitude as Moscow. > > Keep in mind though - you do still get some warming effect from the > Gulf Stream and Moscow does not. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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On 1/28/2016 8:01 AM, Gary wrote:
> > You were not being an a-hole at all, Ed. > I stand corrected and it was interesting to read about that area. > > There are so many different areas on our planet, it's a shame that we > don't have many more documentaries on unknown out-of-the-way places. > So many documentary shows often rehash the more well known areas. > > There are many wildlife docs but after a while, they turn <yawn>. > I much prefer docs that concentrate on history and geology of a > certain area. I've watched a few lately. nice > You are about 98% right though. I happened to hear about a couple of places dryer than average so I figured I'd have some fun with you. In the US all the deserts get at least some rain. |
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"Gary" > wrote in message ... > Ophelia wrote: >> >> > wrote in message >> ... >> > On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 08:38:53 -0000, "Ophelia" > >> > wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message >> . .. >> >>> On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 19:46:43 -0000, "Ophelia" > >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message >> m... >> >>>>> On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 09:21:44 -0000, "Ophelia" >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>"Nancy Young" > wrote in message >> ... >> >>>>>>> On 1/26/2016 4:17 PM, wrote: >> >>>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 15:12:31 -0500, Nancy Young >> >>>>>>>> > wrote: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> On 1/26/2016 12:40 PM, wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 12:01:34 -0500, Nancy Young >> >>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> I have instant hot water, none is wasted here. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> That's a nice feature, but most people don't have that. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> I mentioned it really because sf was accusatory and actually I >> >>>>>>>> am >> >>>>>>>> very >> >>>>>>>> good at not wasting >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> I get it, but when you live with drought, it sensitizes you to >> >>>>>>> the idea of just running water down the drain for nothing. >> >>>>>>> Like the moisturizer I use, it says to put it on and rinse it >> >>>>>>> off. Then wash the tub. Like they're on a mission to drain all >> >>>>>>> the reservoirs. Somehow I get by using less and not rinsing off >> >>>>>>> the 'extra.' >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> My power bill is a fraction of some friends, >> >>>>>>>> but then they go from room to room leaving lights on etc. I >> >>>>>>>> also >> >>>>>>>> loathe to turn the oven on for just one item etc etc. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Sorry if I seemed to be jumping on you, I didn't mean it to >> >>>>>>> be personally directed at you. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> If I was still in a house I would install one of those on demand >> >>>>>>>> water >> >>>>>>>> heating thingies, they are very good. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> I have considered those, though I am sure spending a lot of money >> >>>>>>> on that would be a hard sell. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>Do you mean a 'combi boiler'? Believe me, they are worth every >> >>>>>>penny!! >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>https://www.worcester-bosch.co.uk/ar...a-combi-boiler >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Actually it's not the same, an on demand tankless water heater is >> >>>>> only >> >>>>> for hot water, not house heating. I had one installed two years >> >>>>> ago, >> >>>>> it long ago paid for itself by cutting my water heating energy use >> >>>>> by >> >>>>> 2/3... and takes very little space, it's about the size of a desk >> >>>>> top >> >>>>> PC... mine is on my basement wall, in warmer climates it can be >> >>>>> outdoors. >> >>>>> https://www.rinnai.us/tankless-water-heater >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>Mine isn't much bigger than a desktop computer and it does serve the >> >>>>house >> >>>>heating as well as the hot water. Oh and it hangs on the wall in a >> >>>>cupboard. >> >>> >> >>> All I can think is you're in a location of much more mild weather... >> >>> your system wouldn't work here where temperatures in winter are often >> >>> in the minuses, as in below zero F. >> >> >> >>LOL I am in Scotland!!!! These things are commonplace btw. >> > >> > You are on a more northerly latitude than him! >> >> As I have already said, we are on the same latitude as Moscow. > > Keep in mind though - you do still get some warming effect from the > Gulf Stream and Moscow does not. The Gulf stream doesn't cover the whole of Scotland. It is only in the West coast channel. Believe me, it gets jolly cold here! Look he http://tinypic.com/r/2ufrarr/9 -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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Ophelia wrote:
> "sf" > wrote in message > ... > > On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 09:27:29 -0000, "Ophelia" > > > wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> "sf" > wrote in message > >> news
> >> > On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 10:43:09 -0700, cibola de oro > wrote:> >> > > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > I have instant hot water, none is wasted here. > >> >> > >> >> You brag like the spoiled rich bitch who went to Swiss boarding > >> >> school, > >> >> you risible ****. > >> > > >> > She should preface her just use "hot water" puffery with the fact that > >> > the suggestion only works for water wasters and those with an instant > >> > hot water dispenser. > >> > >> Why is it puffery??? Is an instant water heater so unusual in the US??? > > > > Yes. > > It is odd. I always though USA was far ahead of us technologically yet in > many things, you are far behind. I don't understand it! As for simple > instant water heaters, we had them in the 50s. At one time, energy was extremely cheap here in the states, so hot water heaters with very large tanks were the norm. When I first visited Europe in the mid - 70's it took some "adjustment" in using small hot water heaters that were used in kitchens and baths...IIRC those things all had gas pilot lights that had to be lit before use. -- Best Greg |
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On Thursday, 28 January 2016 02:41:40 UTC-6, Ophelia wrote:
> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message > ... > > On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 19:46:43 -0000, "Ophelia" > > > wrote: > > > >> > >> > >>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message > . .. > >>> On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 09:21:44 -0000, "Ophelia" > > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>"Nancy Young" > wrote in message > ... > >>>>> On 1/26/2016 4:17 PM, wrote: > >>>>>> On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 15:12:31 -0500, Nancy Young > >>>>>> > wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 1/26/2016 12:40 PM, wrote: > >>>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 12:01:34 -0500, Nancy Young > >>>>>>>> > wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>>>> I have instant hot water, none is wasted here. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> That's a nice feature, but most people don't have that. > >>>>> > >>>>>> I mentioned it really because sf was accusatory and actually I am > >>>>>> very > >>>>>> good at not wasting > >>>>> > >>>>> I get it, but when you live with drought, it sensitizes you to > >>>>> the idea of just running water down the drain for nothing. > >>>>> Like the moisturizer I use, it says to put it on and rinse it > >>>>> off. Then wash the tub. Like they're on a mission to drain all > >>>>> the reservoirs. Somehow I get by using less and not rinsing off > >>>>> the 'extra.' > >>>>> > >>>>>> My power bill is a fraction of some friends, > >>>>>> but then they go from room to room leaving lights on etc. I also > >>>>>> loathe to turn the oven on for just one item etc etc. > >>>>> > >>>>> Sorry if I seemed to be jumping on you, I didn't mean it to > >>>>> be personally directed at you. > >>>>> > >>>>>> If I was still in a house I would install one of those on demand > >>>>>> water > >>>>>> heating thingies, they are very good. > >>>>> > >>>>> I have considered those, though I am sure spending a lot of money > >>>>> on that would be a hard sell. > >>>> > >>>>Do you mean a 'combi boiler'? Believe me, they are worth every penny!! > >>>> > >>>>https://www.worcester-bosch.co.uk/ar...a-combi-boiler > >>> > >>> Actually it's not the same, an on demand tankless water heater is only > >>> for hot water, not house heating. I had one installed two years ago, > >>> it long ago paid for itself by cutting my water heating energy use by > >>> 2/3... and takes very little space, it's about the size of a desk top > >>> PC... mine is on my basement wall, in warmer climates it can be > >>> outdoors. > >>> https://www.rinnai.us/tankless-water-heater > >> > >> > >>Mine isn't much bigger than a desktop computer and it does serve the house > >>heating as well as the hot water. Oh and it hangs on the wall in a > >>cupboard. > > > > All I can think is you're in a location of much more mild weather... > > your system wouldn't work here where temperatures in winter are often > > in the minuses, as in below zero F. > > LOL I am in Scotland!!!! These things are commonplace btw. Upstate New York, where Sheldon lives, seems to have a lower annual winter temperature than Scotland (doing a quick check)...'course Scotland can get quite chill :-) The temp in the British Isles generally is tempered somewhat by the ocean currents...you'll find roses still extant (in the lower reaches of the UK, at least) in December, but I don't think you'd find roses blooming in the Capital Region of NY state at that time. -- Best Greg |
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> > The Gulf stream doesn't cover the whole of Scotland. It is only in the West > coast channel. Believe me, it gets jolly cold here! > > Look he > > http://tinypic.com/r/2ufrarr/9 Ocean currents definitely make a difference in local climate. I notice that sf and I have *almost* the same latitude...she's just a bit more north of me but not by much. We both live on a coast but each of us has different ocean currents affecting our weather. |
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On 28/01/2016 1:41 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "sf" > wrote in message > ... >> On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 09:27:29 -0000, "Ophelia" > >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> "sf" > wrote in message >>> news
>>> > On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 10:43:09 -0700, cibola de oro > wrote:>>> > >>> >> wrote: >>> >> > I have instant hot water, none is wasted here. >>> >> >>> >> You brag like the spoiled rich bitch who went to Swiss boarding >>> >> school, >>> >> you risible ****. >>> > >>> > She should preface her just use "hot water" puffery with the fact that >>> > the suggestion only works for water wasters and those with an instant >>> > hot water dispenser. >>> >>> Why is it puffery??? Is an instant water heater so unusual in the US??? >> >> Yes. > > It is odd. I always though USA was far ahead of us technologically yet in > many things, you are far behind. I don't understand it! As for simple > instant water heaters, we had them in the 50s. > I recently replaced my water heater with a conventional 40 gallon one. Gas fired. Instant ones have been promoted here for a couple of years or so but it wasn't feasible for my house. Mini, under the kitchen sink heaters are often in up-market houses and have been for over 20 years. Graham |
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"Gregory Morrow" > wrote in message ... > On Thursday, 28 January 2016 02:41:40 UTC-6, Ophelia wrote: >> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message >> ... >> > On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 19:46:43 -0000, "Ophelia" > >> > wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message >> . .. >> >>> On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 09:21:44 -0000, "Ophelia" > >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>"Nancy Young" > wrote in message >> ... >> >>>>> On 1/26/2016 4:17 PM, wrote: >> >>>>>> On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 15:12:31 -0500, Nancy Young >> >>>>>> > wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On 1/26/2016 12:40 PM, wrote: >> >>>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 12:01:34 -0500, Nancy Young >> >>>>>>>> > wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>> I have instant hot water, none is wasted here. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> That's a nice feature, but most people don't have that. >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> I mentioned it really because sf was accusatory and actually I am >> >>>>>> very >> >>>>>> good at not wasting >> >>>>> >> >>>>> I get it, but when you live with drought, it sensitizes you to >> >>>>> the idea of just running water down the drain for nothing. >> >>>>> Like the moisturizer I use, it says to put it on and rinse it >> >>>>> off. Then wash the tub. Like they're on a mission to drain all >> >>>>> the reservoirs. Somehow I get by using less and not rinsing off >> >>>>> the 'extra.' >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> My power bill is a fraction of some friends, >> >>>>>> but then they go from room to room leaving lights on etc. I also >> >>>>>> loathe to turn the oven on for just one item etc etc. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Sorry if I seemed to be jumping on you, I didn't mean it to >> >>>>> be personally directed at you. >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> If I was still in a house I would install one of those on demand >> >>>>>> water >> >>>>>> heating thingies, they are very good. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> I have considered those, though I am sure spending a lot of money >> >>>>> on that would be a hard sell. >> >>>> >> >>>>Do you mean a 'combi boiler'? Believe me, they are worth every >> >>>>penny!! >> >>>> >> >>>>https://www.worcester-bosch.co.uk/ar...a-combi-boiler >> >>> >> >>> Actually it's not the same, an on demand tankless water heater is >> >>> only >> >>> for hot water, not house heating. I had one installed two years ago, >> >>> it long ago paid for itself by cutting my water heating energy use by >> >>> 2/3... and takes very little space, it's about the size of a desk top >> >>> PC... mine is on my basement wall, in warmer climates it can be >> >>> outdoors. >> >>> https://www.rinnai.us/tankless-water-heater >> >> >> >> >> >>Mine isn't much bigger than a desktop computer and it does serve the >> >>house >> >>heating as well as the hot water. Oh and it hangs on the wall in a >> >>cupboard. >> > >> > All I can think is you're in a location of much more mild weather... >> > your system wouldn't work here where temperatures in winter are often >> > in the minuses, as in below zero F. >> >> LOL I am in Scotland!!!! These things are commonplace btw. > > > Upstate New York, where Sheldon lives, seems to have a lower annual winter > temperature than Scotland (doing a quick check)...'course Scotland can get > quite chill :-) > > The temp in the British Isles generally is tempered somewhat by the ocean > currents...you'll find roses still extant (in the lower reaches of the UK, > at least) in December, but I don't think you'd find roses blooming in the > Capital Region of NY state at that time. I take it you mean Southern England??? Anyway, Sheldon tried to say that the reason we have combi boilers was because we have warmer weather lol -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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"Gary" > wrote in message ... > Ophelia wrote: >> >> The Gulf stream doesn't cover the whole of Scotland. It is only in the >> West >> coast channel. Believe me, it gets jolly cold here! >> >> Look he >> >> http://tinypic.com/r/2ufrarr/9 > > Ocean currents definitely make a difference in local climate. I notice > that sf and I have *almost* the same latitude...she's just a bit more > north of me but not by much. We both live on a coast but each of us > has different ocean currents affecting our weather. If you came to spend a winter in Scotland, believe me, you wouldn't come in summer clothing. It is damned cold! S. Viemeister can tell you all about that!!! -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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"graham" > wrote in message ... > On 28/01/2016 1:41 AM, Ophelia wrote: >> >> >> "sf" > wrote in message >> ... >>> On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 09:27:29 -0000, "Ophelia" > >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "sf" > wrote in message >>>> news
>>>> > On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 10:43:09 -0700, cibola de oro > wrote:>>>> > >>>> >> wrote: >>>> >> > I have instant hot water, none is wasted here. >>>> >> >>>> >> You brag like the spoiled rich bitch who went to Swiss boarding >>>> >> school, >>>> >> you risible ****. >>>> > >>>> > She should preface her just use "hot water" puffery with the fact >>>> > that >>>> > the suggestion only works for water wasters and those with an instant >>>> > hot water dispenser. >>>> >>>> Why is it puffery??? Is an instant water heater so unusual in the >>>> US??? >>> >>> Yes. >> >> It is odd. I always though USA was far ahead of us technologically yet >> in >> many things, you are far behind. I don't understand it! As for simple >> instant water heaters, we had them in the 50s. >> > I recently replaced my water heater with a conventional 40 gallon one. Gas > fired. Instant ones have been promoted here for a couple of years or so > but it wasn't feasible for my house. Mini, under the kitchen sink heaters > are often in up-market houses and have been for over 20 years. Do they run the central heating too? -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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"Gregory Morrow" > wrote in message ... > Ophelia wrote: > >> "sf" > wrote in message >> ... >> > On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 09:27:29 -0000, "Ophelia" > >> > wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> "sf" > wrote in message >> >> news
>> >> > On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 10:43:09 -0700, cibola de oro >>> >> > wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> > I have instant hot water, none is wasted here. >> >> >> >> >> >> You brag like the spoiled rich bitch who went to Swiss boarding >> >> >> school, >> >> >> you risible ****. >> >> > >> >> > She should preface her just use "hot water" puffery with the fact >> >> > that >> >> > the suggestion only works for water wasters and those with an >> >> > instant >> >> > hot water dispenser. >> >> >> >> Why is it puffery??? Is an instant water heater so unusual in the >> >> US??? >> > >> > Yes. >> >> It is odd. I always though USA was far ahead of us technologically yet >> in >> many things, you are far behind. I don't understand it! As for simple >> instant water heaters, we had them in the 50s. > > > At one time, energy was extremely cheap here in the states, so hot water > heaters with very large tanks were the norm. > > When I first visited Europe in the mid - 70's it took some "adjustment" in > using small hot water heaters that were used in kitchens and baths...IIRC > those things all had gas pilot lights that had to be lit before use. I remember those from the 60s -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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On 1/26/2016 7:59 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> call the cops and get > Gary a new oven! > > -sw You criminally STALK and ABUSE women, you sick little dwarfy man! Here's what you did when you went all over the Usenet impersonating the well-liked regular named "sf" and posting all her personal data on the net against her will, including her: * home address * age * cell phone number * husband's name etc. YOU did that, you evil *******! And then you had the hubris to actually GLOAT about in public saying: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ost > Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:18:00 -0600 MicroPlanet-Gravity/3.0.4 She should call the cops. I've already publicly admitted it is me so a conviction should be a piece of cake and then forging would stop. So what's stopping her? I think she suffers from Bovism - she just loves the attention and drama and screw the rest of the group. -sw ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And before that you literally stalked poor Omelet, a local Auustin favorite, right off the Usenet! In your worst moment ever you actually begged her to KILL you: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ost > 3/18/2011 3:49 PM Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162 readnews.com - News for Geeks and ISPs fa35d278.newsreader.readnews.com Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles. -sw --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away. There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Then after having your nose rubbed in your filthy criminal stalking you came back with, not an apology, nor the slightest remorse, just this: "The facebook group is much more pleasant." But we all know that's only because you cower over there in mortal fear of being booted by the FB admins. You're _so done_ here virus, I mean really ****ing done. I'm making you a project like no other, expect a lot more of your evil abuse and hatred to be aired for all to see here. And we both know there's a google archive full of your hatred of women just waiting to be hung out on the virtual clothesline to dry. Enjoy then, you rotten, worthless misogynistic *******! |
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On 1/25/2016 7:05 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> I have a different problem. You criminally STALK and ABUSE women, you sick little dwarfy man! Here's what you did when you went all over the Usenet impersonating the well-liked regular named "sf" and posting all her personal data on the net against her will, including her: * home address * age * cell phone number * husband's name etc. YOU did that, you evil *******! And then you had the hubris to actually GLOAT about in public saying: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ost > Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:18:00 -0600 MicroPlanet-Gravity/3.0.4 She should call the cops. I've already publicly admitted it is me so a conviction should be a piece of cake and then forging would stop. So what's stopping her? I think she suffers from Bovism - she just loves the attention and drama and screw the rest of the group. -sw ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And before that you literally stalked poor Omelet, a local Auustin favorite, right off the Usenet! In your worst moment ever you actually begged her to KILL you: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ost > 3/18/2011 3:49 PM Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162 readnews.com - News for Geeks and ISPs fa35d278.newsreader.readnews.com Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles. -sw --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away. There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Then after having your nose rubbed in your filthy criminal stalking you came back with, not an apology, nor the slightest remorse, just this: "The facebook group is much more pleasant." But we all know that's only because you cower over there in mortal fear of being booted by the FB admins. You're _so done_ here virus, I mean really ****ing done. I'm making you a project like no other, expect a lot more of your evil abuse and hatred to be aired for all to see here. And we both know there's a google archive full of your hatred of women just waiting to be hung out on the virtual clothesline to dry. Enjoy then, you rotten, worthless misogynistic *******! |
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jmcquown wrote:
> > On 1/27/2016 10:27 AM, Gary wrote: > > An adult Panda bear eats way too much bamboo and poops out up to 60lbs > > of poop each day. > > Just a little worthless trivia for all here. > > > Did you see the Panda in the snow at the National Zoo? > > http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/...-washington-dc Here's a pic of the giraffes at the National Zoo...same storm last week. Did you see this? http://i67.tinypic.com/n3tf0z.jpg > > Why would you begrudge Pandas their bamboo? Why did you think that I do? Panda's are cool. They are in danger of extinction because of way too many cheap Chinese people encroching on their habitat. Bamboo grows like weeds and is actually hard to get rid of in your yard. > It isn't their fault it's > the only thing they can eat. It isn't the fault of koalas they subsist > on eucalyptus. Just a fact of nature. They don't waste water by > running it down the sink! > > I'll admit since I do not live in an drought area I don't think about > water conservation much. But I do not run water unnecesarily. > Definitely not to warm plates. That's where you are not thinking. I said I will occasionally keep a bowl warm (or you could do a stack of plates) but it's not constant running water. Put hot water in right before serving to warm the thing. My God, people just assume the extreme here. This is a silly ng. Then wideASS bobblehead barbie assumes that renters waste water. Another silly assumption. Maybe some of us catch the water until hot and use it for other things. Maybe some of us do realize that we pay for water, with a bill or it's included in the rent. Maybe I live right on top of two giant water heaters that supply hot water to 23 other apartments. So Maybe I get almost instant hot water. In my fairly worthless opinion, anyone that wants to nit pick about saving the earth's resources should just kill themselves right now. Think how much that would save in energy, pollution, and resources used just for your one life on a daily basis....then for the many years that you might have lived on. And don't forget about the poor Walmart employees being exploited on a daily basis. |
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