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If a can has something thick or gloppy inside (Campbell's Cream of
Tomato Soup, for example) and has a pull-tab opening top (Campbell's
again), getting the stuff out is a real pain because of the wide rim
that you have to work around while hoping not to cut your rubber spatula
to shreds on the sharp edge.

The lid on cans with pull-tab tops are generally set further down than
regular lids -- far enough that a standard opener won't reach it. For a
while, you could just turn the can over and go in through the (normal)
bottom, but more recently all the cans are deep-drawn and have no
openable bottom.

So the question is, is there a can opener -- top or side entry -- that
is known to remove the top from pop-top cans?

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On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 22:03:13 -0800, isw > wrote:

>If a can has something thick or gloppy inside (Campbell's Cream of
>Tomato Soup, for example) and has a pull-tab opening top (Campbell's
>again), getting the stuff out is a real pain because of the wide rim
>that you have to work around while hoping not to cut your rubber spatula
>to shreds on the sharp edge.
>
>The lid on cans with pull-tab tops are generally set further down than
>regular lids -- far enough that a standard opener won't reach it. For a
>while, you could just turn the can over and go in through the (normal)
>bottom, but more recently all the cans are deep-drawn and have no
>openable bottom.
>
>So the question is, is there a can opener -- top or side entry -- that
>is known to remove the top from pop-top cans?
>
>Isaac


They're meant to eat from the can.
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>On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 08:12:46 -0500, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 22:03:13 -0800, isw > wrote:
>>
>>>If a can has something thick or gloppy inside (Campbell's Cream of
>>>Tomato Soup, for example) and has a pull-tab opening top (Campbell's
>>>again), getting the stuff out is a real pain because of the wide rim
>>>that you have to work around while hoping not to cut your rubber spatula
>>>to shreds on the sharp edge.

>>
>> They're meant to eat from the can.

>
>Condensed Cream of Mushroom soup straight from the can - Yummo!
>
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Cream of 'shroom mixed with cream of celray is far yummier, dump into
one of those 1 quart cardboard Chinese take-out containers, chill in
the fridge over night to congeal... add some tiny dwarfs (I mean
canned shrimp), soy sauce, crispy chow mein noodles, a minced hunk of
Spam and/or Hillshire kielbasa, and a 1/2 tsp msg... left over dwarfs
with mock lobster sauce for breakfast - Yummo! LOL-LOL
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> WTF do you call that shit?
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> WTF do you call that shit?
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Mayo covered crap.


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isw > wrote:

> If a can has something thick or gloppy inside (Campbell's Cream of
> Tomato Soup, for example) and has a pull-tab opening top (Campbell's
> again), getting the stuff out is a real pain because of the wide rim
> that you have to work around while hoping not to cut your rubber spatula
> to shreds on the sharp edge.
>
> The lid on cans with pull-tab tops are generally set further down than
> regular lids -- far enough that a standard opener won't reach it. For a
> while, you could just turn the can over and go in through the (normal)
> bottom, but more recently all the cans are deep-drawn and have no
> openable bottom.
>
> So the question is, is there a can opener -- top or side entry -- that
> is known to remove the top from pop-top cans?
>
> Isaac


I haven't tried this, but it might work:

<http://www.smartknives.com/Swiss-Army-Knife-Tools/Wenger-Can-Opener.htm>
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On 2015-12-15, isw > wrote:
> If a can has something thick or gloppy inside (Campbell's Cream of
> Tomato Soup, for example) and has a pull-tab opening top (Campbell's
> again), getting the stuff out is a real pain because of the wide rim
> that you have to work around while hoping not to cut your rubber spatula
> to shreds on the sharp edge.


While I tend to agree, don't most of those "gloppy" soups require
further liquid, like water or milk? Put the liquid in the can and
slosh it around to clean out the rest of the gloop out.

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On 12/15/2015 1:23 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2015-12-15, isw > wrote:
>> If a can has something thick or gloppy inside (Campbell's Cream of
>> Tomato Soup, for example) and has a pull-tab opening top (Campbell's
>> again), getting the stuff out is a real pain because of the wide rim
>> that you have to work around while hoping not to cut your rubber spatula
>> to shreds on the sharp edge.

>
> While I tend to agree, don't most of those "gloppy" soups require
> further liquid, like water or milk? Put the liquid in the can and
> slosh it around to clean out the rest of the gloop out.
>
> nb
>

Yup. Or use a metal spoon rather than a rubber spatula.

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On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 02:09:41 -0600, Sqwertz >
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>On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 20:13:42 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> On 12/15/2015 1:23 PM, notbob wrote:
>>> On 2015-12-15, isw > wrote:
>>>> If a can has something thick or gloppy inside (Campbell's Cream of
>>>> Tomato Soup, for example) and has a pull-tab opening top (Campbell's
>>>> again), getting the stuff out is a real pain because of the wide rim
>>>> that you have to work around while hoping not to cut your rubber spatula
>>>> to shreds on the sharp edge.
>>>
>>> While I tend to agree, don't most of those "gloppy" soups require
>>> further liquid, like water or milk? Put the liquid in the can and
>>> slosh it around to clean out the rest of the gloop out.
>>>

>> Yup. Or use a metal spoon rather than a rubber spatula.

>
>In 42 years of having to spoon out CoX soups I would have never have
>thought somebody would find it tricky or irritable. Pop top or not.
>
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there's that little edge that is left by the pop top. Stuff doesn't
just drop out cleanly anymore. Cleaning out the can with a spatula
can cut the spatula.
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On Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 9:11:11 AM UTC-8, Janet B wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 02:09:41 -0600, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 20:13:42 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
> >
> >> On 12/15/2015 1:23 PM, notbob wrote:
> >>> On 2015-12-15, isw > wrote:
> >>>> If a can has something thick or gloppy inside (Campbell's Cream of
> >>>> Tomato Soup, for example) and has a pull-tab opening top (Campbell's
> >>>> again), getting the stuff out is a real pain because of the wide rim
> >>>> that you have to work around while hoping not to cut your rubber spatula
> >>>> to shreds on the sharp edge.
> >>>
> >>> While I tend to agree, don't most of those "gloppy" soups require
> >>> further liquid, like water or milk? Put the liquid in the can and
> >>> slosh it around to clean out the rest of the gloop out.
> >>>
> >> Yup. Or use a metal spoon rather than a rubber spatula.

> >
> >In 42 years of having to spoon out CoX soups I would have never have
> >thought somebody would find it tricky or irritable. Pop top or not.
> >


> there's that little edge that is left by the pop top. Stuff doesn't
> just drop out cleanly anymore. Cleaning out the can with a spatula
> can cut the spatula.


We have acquired a number of plastic lids for pet food cans over the years.
If one fit this can, I would put in water or whatever liquid goes with,
shake it up, and pour out whatever I can recover.


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>On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 02:09:41 -0600, Sqwertz >
>wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 20:13:42 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/15/2015 1:23 PM, notbob wrote:
>>>> On 2015-12-15, isw > wrote:
>>>>> If a can has something thick or gloppy inside (Campbell's Cream of
>>>>> Tomato Soup, for example) and has a pull-tab opening top (Campbell's
>>>>> again), getting the stuff out is a real pain because of the wide rim
>>>>> that you have to work around while hoping not to cut your rubber spatula
>>>>> to shreds on the sharp edge.
>>>>
>>>> While I tend to agree, don't most of those "gloppy" soups require
>>>> further liquid, like water or milk? Put the liquid in the can and
>>>> slosh it around to clean out the rest of the gloop out.
>>>>
>>> Yup. Or use a metal spoon rather than a rubber spatula.

>>
>>In 42 years of having to spoon out CoX soups I would have never have
>>thought somebody would find it tricky or irritable. Pop top or not.
>>
>>-sw

>there's that little edge that is left by the pop top. Stuff doesn't
>just drop out cleanly anymore. Cleaning out the can with a spatula
>can cut the spatula.


I have no problem scooping under that rim with a spoon... I open
thousands upon thousands of pop top cat food cans and have no
difficulty scooping the last bits under that rim with a tsp. There
are many food containers that it's much more labor intensive to remove
the last bits, especially jelly jars and most plastic jars. Jelly
jars have configurations that it's impossible to scrape all those
small ridges with a rubber spatula, so I add a little hot water, screw
the lid on and shake, then use that fruity water for meat marinades
and baking cakes. Just a while ago I couldn't get the last dregs out
of one of those new plastic Guldens squeeze bottles (idiotic design),
so with a paring knife I cut it in half around its aproximate equater
and then with a small rubber spatula was able to get out enough for
two bologna sandwiches, was about 2 ounces most people would throw
away... I've phoned Guldens and let them know their container designer
is an ignoranus... they even changed/cheapened their recipe by
watering it down but with the bottle standing on its head it still
won't flow like Heinz Red. The original squat Guldens glass jar had
an opening you could drive a truck through... WTF couldn't they make
the plastic jar that same shape with that wide diameter screw cap they
had for more than fifty years? DUH Mustard and ketchup just don't
flow the same.
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On Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 11:58:01 AM UTC-8, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Just a while ago I couldn't get the last dregs out
> of one of those new plastic Guldens squeeze bottles (idiotic design),
> so with a paring knife I cut it in half around its aproximate equater
> and then with a small rubber spatula was able to get out enough for
> two bologna sandwiches, was about 2 ounces most people would throw
> away... I've phoned Guldens and let them know their container designer
> is an ignoranus... they even changed/cheapened their recipe by
> watering it down but with the bottle standing on its head it still
> won't flow like Heinz Red. The original squat Guldens glass jar had
> an opening you could drive a truck through... WTF couldn't they make
> the plastic jar that same shape with that wide diameter screw cap they
> had for more than fifty years? DUH Mustard and ketchup just don't
> flow the same.


I can actually agree with Brooklyn on something. Even worse is the new
Hellman's squeeze bottle, which seems designed to leave 20% of the
product unsqueezed.
I was opening the lid and removing mayo with a butter knife, when my
wife threw the package away -- because no more was coming out.
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Sqwertz > wrote:

> On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 20:13:42 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>
> > On 12/15/2015 1:23 PM, notbob wrote:
> >> On 2015-12-15, isw > wrote:
> >>> If a can has something thick or gloppy inside (Campbell's Cream of
> >>> Tomato Soup, for example) and has a pull-tab opening top (Campbell's
> >>> again), getting the stuff out is a real pain because of the wide rim
> >>> that you have to work around while hoping not to cut your rubber spatula
> >>> to shreds on the sharp edge.
> >>
> >> While I tend to agree, don't most of those "gloppy" soups require
> >> further liquid, like water or milk? Put the liquid in the can and
> >> slosh it around to clean out the rest of the gloop out.
> >>

> > Yup. Or use a metal spoon rather than a rubber spatula.

>
> In 42 years of having to spoon out CoX soups I would have never have
> thought somebody would find it tricky or irritable. Pop top or not.


With the older type of can, you didn't have to spoon anything out -- you
just turned the can upside down and shook it.

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> With the older type of can, you didn't have to spoon anything out -- you
> just turned the can upside down and shook it.


Not really. Even with the older cans of Cream of Whatever soups, they
were thick and lots left stuck to the insides of the cans. As most
called for at least a bit of water, I would put a small amount of hot
water in there, stir with spoon scraping off the sides, then dump it
out.
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On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 12:35:20 -0500, Gary > wrote:

> isw wrote:
> >
> > With the older type of can, you didn't have to spoon anything out -- you
> > just turned the can upside down and shook it.

>
> Not really. Even with the older cans of Cream of Whatever soups, they
> were thick and lots left stuck to the insides of the cans. As most
> called for at least a bit of water, I would put a small amount of hot
> water in there, stir with spoon scraping off the sides, then dump it
> out.


With the other type of cans, you'd cut the other end and push the
contents out with it - then you'd stomp on the can to flatten it.

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In article >, Gary > wrote:

> isw wrote:
> >
> > With the older type of can, you didn't have to spoon anything out -- you
> > just turned the can upside down and shook it.

>
> Not really. Even with the older cans of Cream of Whatever soups, they
> were thick and lots left stuck to the insides of the cans. As most
> called for at least a bit of water, I would put a small amount of hot
> water in there, stir with spoon scraping off the sides, then dump it
> out.


Back when Campbell's Tomato Soup was tolerably good -- before they
ruined it -- it came in one of what I called "Type 1" and "Type 2". Type
1 stuck to that inside and had to be scraped out; Type 2 was like a can
of cranberry jelly; if you shook the can, it would slide out in one
solid cylinder.

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On 12/16/2015 1:09 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> I would have never have
> thought somebody would find it tricky or irritable.


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On Monday, December 14, 2015 at 8:03:17 PM UTC-10, isw wrote:
> If a can has something thick or gloppy inside (Campbell's Cream of
> Tomato Soup, for example) and has a pull-tab opening top (Campbell's
> again), getting the stuff out is a real pain because of the wide rim
> that you have to work around while hoping not to cut your rubber spatula
> to shreds on the sharp edge.
>
> The lid on cans with pull-tab tops are generally set further down than
> regular lids -- far enough that a standard opener won't reach it. For a
> while, you could just turn the can over and go in through the (normal)
> bottom, but more recently all the cans are deep-drawn and have no
> openable bottom.
>
> So the question is, is there a can opener -- top or side entry -- that
> is known to remove the top from pop-top cans?
>
> Isaac


As I recall, you can remove the top of a soda can. People with evil intent in their hearts will use these openers to make containers to hide their stuff. Being pure of heart, I used the openers only for good -to make cases for electronic projects - and also to open cans, of course.
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> If a can has something thick or gloppy inside (Campbell's Cream of
> Tomato Soup, for example) and has a pull-tab opening top (Campbell's
> again), getting the stuff out is a real pain because of the wide rim
> that you have to work around while hoping not to cut your rubber
> spatula to shreds on the sharp edge.
>
> The lid on cans with pull-tab tops are generally set further down
> than regular lids -- far enough that a standard opener won't reach
> it. For a while, you could just turn the can over and go in through
> the (normal) bottom, but more recently all the cans are deep-drawn
> and have no openable bottom.
>
> So the question is, is there a can opener -- top or side entry --
> that is known to remove the top from pop-top cans?
>
> Isaac


Yes, it's called your fingers...


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On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 18:46:10 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:

>isw wrote in rec.food.cooking:
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>> If a can has something thick or gloppy inside (Campbell's Cream of
>> Tomato Soup, for example) and has a pull-tab opening top (Campbell's
>> again), getting the stuff out is a real pain because of the wide rim
>> that you have to work around while hoping not to cut your rubber
>> spatula to shreds on the sharp edge.
>>
>> The lid on cans with pull-tab tops are generally set further down
>> than regular lids -- far enough that a standard opener won't reach
>> it. For a while, you could just turn the can over and go in through
>> the (normal) bottom, but more recently all the cans are deep-drawn
>> and have no openable bottom.
>>
>> So the question is, is there a can opener -- top or side entry --
>> that is known to remove the top from pop-top cans?
>>
>> Isaac

>
>Yes, it's called your fingers...


seriously? You didn't understand what is being asked. Unless, were
you trying to be funny?
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On Monday, December 14, 2015 at 8:03:17 PM UTC-10, isw wrote:
> If a can has something thick or gloppy inside (Campbell's Cream of
> Tomato Soup, for example) and has a pull-tab opening top (Campbell's
> again), getting the stuff out is a real pain because of the wide rim
> that you have to work around while hoping not to cut your rubber spatula
> to shreds on the sharp edge.
>
> The lid on cans with pull-tab tops are generally set further down than
> regular lids -- far enough that a standard opener won't reach it. For a
> while, you could just turn the can over and go in through the (normal)
> bottom, but more recently all the cans are deep-drawn and have no
> openable bottom.
>
> So the question is, is there a can opener -- top or side entry -- that
> is known to remove the top from pop-top cans?
>
> Isaac


You can use a standard can opener and cut the top through the side. Instead of putting the cutting wheel on the top you hold the opener horizontal and put the cutting wheel right under the lip. You're out of luck it you want to cut the bottom off. I cut the bottom of cans by using a Dremel Moto-tool.. It's a lotta laffs. Ho ho ho.
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On Tuesday, December 15, 2015 at 10:24:47 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, December 14, 2015 at 8:03:17 PM UTC-10, isw wrote:
> > If a can has something thick or gloppy inside (Campbell's Cream of
> > Tomato Soup, for example) and has a pull-tab opening top (Campbell's
> > again), getting the stuff out is a real pain because of the wide rim
> > that you have to work around while hoping not to cut your rubber spatula
> > to shreds on the sharp edge.
> >
> > The lid on cans with pull-tab tops are generally set further down than
> > regular lids -- far enough that a standard opener won't reach it. For a
> > while, you could just turn the can over and go in through the (normal)
> > bottom, but more recently all the cans are deep-drawn and have no
> > openable bottom.
> >
> > So the question is, is there a can opener -- top or side entry -- that
> > is known to remove the top from pop-top cans?
> >
> > Isaac

>
> You can use a standard can opener and cut the top through the side. Instead of putting the cutting wheel on the top you hold the opener horizontal and put the cutting wheel right under the lip. You're out of luck it you want to cut the bottom off. I cut the bottom of cans by using a Dremel Moto-tool. It's a lotta laffs. Ho ho ho.


Yes I've done this......depending on the can. But under most instances, I've still been able to use a can opener, on cans with the "pop top" design......cause yes, I don't care for the pop top either......8 out of 10 times, that ring pulls off lol.....
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On Thursday, December 17, 2015 at 10:39:19 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 15, 2015 at 10:24:47 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Monday, December 14, 2015 at 8:03:17 PM UTC-10, isw wrote:
> > > If a can has something thick or gloppy inside (Campbell's Cream of
> > > Tomato Soup, for example) and has a pull-tab opening top (Campbell's
> > > again), getting the stuff out is a real pain because of the wide rim
> > > that you have to work around while hoping not to cut your rubber spatula
> > > to shreds on the sharp edge.
> > >
> > > The lid on cans with pull-tab tops are generally set further down than
> > > regular lids -- far enough that a standard opener won't reach it. For a
> > > while, you could just turn the can over and go in through the (normal)
> > > bottom, but more recently all the cans are deep-drawn and have no
> > > openable bottom.
> > >
> > > So the question is, is there a can opener -- top or side entry -- that
> > > is known to remove the top from pop-top cans?
> > >
> > > Isaac

> >
> > You can use a standard can opener and cut the top through the side. Instead of putting the cutting wheel on the top you hold the opener horizontal and put the cutting wheel right under the lip. You're out of luck it you want to cut the bottom off. I cut the bottom of cans by using a Dremel Moto-tool. It's a lotta laffs. Ho ho ho.

>
> Yes I've done this......depending on the can. But under most instances, I've still been able to use a can opener, on cans with the "pop top" design......cause yes, I don't care for the pop top either......8 out of 10 times, that ring pulls off lol.....


I like 'em because they're faster than using a can opener - especially when I'm at work. OTOH, I once gashed four fingers on my hand on a pop top on an orange juice so there is some degree of risk in opening up these beasts. OTOH, canned foods have food inside them so I can't complain.
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