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On 12/20/2015 10:00 AM, cshenk wrote:
> Brooklyn1 wrote in rec.food.cooking: > >> On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 20:22:34 -0500, Cheryl > >> wrote: >> >>> On 12/17/2015 3:04 AM, wrote: >>> >>>> I can actually agree with Brooklyn on something. Even worse is the >> new >> Hellman's squeeze bottle, which seems designed to leave 20% of >> the >> product unsqueezed. >>>> I was opening the lid and removing mayo with a butter knife, when >> my >> wife threw the package away -- because no more was coming out. >>> >>> Nearly all products these days, not just food, comes in containers >>> where they expect you to throw it out and buy new before you have >>> to, rather than figure out how to get the last of it out. Face >>> moisturizer lotions are all like this now. Those horrible pumps >>> that never get into the bottom of the bottle. I've seen TV ads >>> where some of those pump bottles have changed, but not on what I >>> use. So wasteful if people don't try to get it out. >> >> That's the reason I've gone to buying bulk containers, I simply fill >> the small pump bottles from the bulk containers, saves a lot of money >> as the small pump bottles are expensive. It's silly to toss the small >> pump bottle in the trash and just buy another when it costs a lot less >> to refill the pump bottles from a much less costly bulk bottle. No >> matter the product it costs much less to buy in bulk. I don't buy >> perishables in bulk, like mayo, but any product that doesn't spoil, >> like hand cream anc soaps, buying in bulk is a smart purchase. > > I do same with many things. The ones I don't are ones that don't last > weel enough. Found out a fabric softener went 'off' so I don't get the > huge BJ's sets of that now. > Even dishwasher detergent will expire quickly. I buy those pods lately because I like the convenience but while they start out soft and a little mushy depending on the brand, they harden quickly. That's one area in which I don't buy bulk. It works well and if I have to pay more and replace more often, I will. -- ღ.¸¸.œ«*¨`*œ¶ Cheryl |
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On 12/17/2015 2:17 PM, Gary wrote:
> sf wrote: >> >> On Thu, 17 Dec 2015 10:05:43 -0500, Gary > wrote: >> >>> sf wrote: >>>> >>>> Guess I never used a can that called for a can of something else. >>> >>> In your entire worthless life (grin) you've never opened a can >>> of Campbells soup that calls for adding a can of water or milk? >> >> Not in my cooking life. > > The last 2-3 weeks then. ok. ;-D > I don't believe her either. -- ღ.¸¸.œ«*¨`*œ¶ Cheryl |
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On 12/17/2015 10:03 AM, Gary wrote:
> isw wrote: >> >> Type 2 was like a can >> of cranberry jelly; if you shook the can, it would slide out in one >> solid cylinder. > > I used to open a can of cranberry jelly that way. I'd open both sides > then slide it out. > My mom used to make date nut bread in cans and would do the same. It made a nice shaped bread to slice and add flavored (and colored with food coloring) cream cheese to make little finger sandwiches when slicing the sandwiches into halves or wedges. -- ღ.¸¸.œ«*¨`*œ¶ Cheryl |
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On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 16:13:38 -0500, Cheryl >
wrote: > On 12/17/2015 2:17 PM, Gary wrote: > > sf wrote: > >> > >> On Thu, 17 Dec 2015 10:05:43 -0500, Gary > wrote: > >> > >>> sf wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Guess I never used a can that called for a can of something else. > >>> > >>> In your entire worthless life (grin) you've never opened a can > >>> of Campbells soup that calls for adding a can of water or milk? > >> > >> Not in my cooking life. > > > > The last 2-3 weeks then. ok. ;-D > > > I don't believe her either. Why? Just because you like that stuff doesn't mean I do. I had my share growing up and I felt no need to continue it as an adult. -- sf |
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sf wrote:
> Why? Just because you like that stuff doesn't mean I do. I had my > share growing up and I felt no need to continue it as an adult. > Still sending folks here viruses? You're beneath scum. Just like I told EVERYONE he __________________________________________________ __________________________________ > The Inconvenient Truth wrote: > > 7/21/2011 11:57 AM > rec.food.cooking, alt.sports.football.pro.gb-packers > >> Post flames are like getting the silver in the Olympics. >> >> Even if you win, you still lose. >> >> I am warning you now for the last time. I am not a snitch. But if you >> try to >> email me one more virsus like you did yesterday, you're getting a >> visit from >> law enforcement. I'm not joking about this. Quit it. __________________________________________________ ______________________________________ |
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On 12/18/2015 4:33 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, December 18, 2015 at 4:12:27 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote: > >> Why not? If you dis their restaurant, you dis everyone that works there. >> Mostly that's an Asian concept. White folks are probably not that clannish. > > No. It's an extremely impersonal relationship. I don't > care what the kitchen thinks, nor if the chef commits > seppuku because I sent back a dish. > I like the way you think! If I'm paying for a meal I expect to get what I ordered. If it isn't what I ordered I'll tell them. What are they going to do, send out a hit squad? I sent a pasta dish back once after finding a long black hair in it. I don't have black hair. They were not "dissed". What a silly notion. I didn't order pasta with hair, I'm not going to eat this. Jill |
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jmcquown wrote:
> On 12/18/2015 4:33 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: >> On Friday, December 18, 2015 at 4:12:27 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote: >> >>> Why not? If you dis their restaurant, you dis everyone that works >>> there. >>> Mostly that's an Asian concept. White folks are probably not that >>> clannish. >> >> No. It's an extremely impersonal relationship. I don't >> care what the kitchen thinks, nor if the chef commits >> seppuku because I sent back a dish. >> > I like the way you think! If I'm paying for a meal I expect to get > what I ordered. If it isn't what I ordered I'll tell them. What are > they going to do, send out a hit squad? > > I sent a pasta dish back once after finding a long black hair in it. > I don't have black hair. They were not "dissed". What a silly > notion. I didn't order pasta with hair, I'm not going to eat this. > > Jill > They "simply" spit in it or worse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDlR_ccnZww |
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![]() "Alex" > wrote in message ... > jmcquown wrote: >> On 12/18/2015 4:33 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: >>> On Friday, December 18, 2015 at 4:12:27 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote: >>> >>>> Why not? If you dis their restaurant, you dis everyone that works >>>> there. >>>> Mostly that's an Asian concept. White folks are probably not that >>>> clannish. >>> >>> No. It's an extremely impersonal relationship. I don't >>> care what the kitchen thinks, nor if the chef commits >>> seppuku because I sent back a dish. >>> >> I like the way you think! If I'm paying for a meal I expect to get what >> I ordered. If it isn't what I ordered I'll tell them. What are they >> going to do, send out a hit squad? >> >> I sent a pasta dish back once after finding a long black hair in it. I >> don't have black hair. They were not "dissed". What a silly notion. I >> didn't order pasta with hair, I'm not going to eat this. >> >> Jill >> > > They "simply" spit in it or worse. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDlR_ccnZww Are you serious? I couldn't watch that after the first few seconds, it was disgusting ![]() If I ever have a complaint, I never send anything back because I thought they might spit in it. But I never go back there again. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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On Sun, 7 Feb 2016 11:36:55 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote: > > >"Alex" > wrote in message ... >> jmcquown wrote: >>> On 12/18/2015 4:33 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: >>>> On Friday, December 18, 2015 at 4:12:27 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote: >>>> >>>>> Why not? If you dis their restaurant, you dis everyone that works >>>>> there. >>>>> Mostly that's an Asian concept. White folks are probably not that >>>>> clannish. >>>> >>>> No. It's an extremely impersonal relationship. I don't >>>> care what the kitchen thinks, nor if the chef commits >>>> seppuku because I sent back a dish. >>>> >>> I like the way you think! If I'm paying for a meal I expect to get what >>> I ordered. If it isn't what I ordered I'll tell them. What are they >>> going to do, send out a hit squad? >>> >>> I sent a pasta dish back once after finding a long black hair in it. I >>> don't have black hair. They were not "dissed". What a silly notion. I >>> didn't order pasta with hair, I'm not going to eat this. >>> >>> Jill >>> >> >> They "simply" spit in it or worse. >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDlR_ccnZww > >Are you serious? I couldn't watch that after the first few seconds, it was >disgusting ![]() > >If I ever have a complaint, I never send anything back because I thought >they might spit in it. But I never go back there again. That's what I did, only intelligent choice. |
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On Sunday, December 20, 2015 at 11:49:05 AM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
> On Sunday, December 20, 2015 at 6:37:53 AM UTC-10, Abiquiu wrote: > > dsi1 wrote: > > > On Saturday, December 19, 2015 at 1:31:09 PM UTC-10, Janet B wrote: > > >> On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 21:00:10 -0000, "Ophelia" > > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> "Janet B" > wrote in message > > >>> ... > > >>>> On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 18:42:04 -0000, "Ophelia" > > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> "sf" > wrote in message > > >>>>> ... > > >>>>>> On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 09:02:10 -0700, Abiquiu > wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> sf wrote: > > >>>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 08:34:05 -0700, Abiquiu > wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Did anyone think to send it back, or perhaps just gorge on dim sum? > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> There isn't really much mayo on it and besides, it's addictive.. Once > > >>>>>>>> you know it comes with mayo, you can always tell them to leave it > > >>>>>>>> off. > > >>>>>>>> I wouldn't, but you could. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> It's not on my preferred entrees anyway, so I'd be over at steam buns > > >>>>>>> and roast duck! > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> My goodness, you ARE a round eye! Walnut shrimp is just one of many > > >>>>>> dishes and many courses put on the lazy susan. They come in the first > > >>>>>> wave of food, something we Westerners could term an appetizer - but I > > >>>>>> grab as many as I can. Crispy duck skin in a steamed bun is great, > > >>>>>> but I'd choose sizzling rice soup over duck soup (traditionally made > > >>>>>> with the bones of the duck you ordered, or so they claim) any day. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Round eye? > > >>>> > > >>>> those without the epicanthic fold. > > >>>> > > >>>> "Epicanthic fold, also called epicanthal fold, fold of skin across > > >>>> the inner corner of the eye (canthus). The epicanthic fold produces > > >>>> the eye shape characteristic of persons from central and eastern Asia; > > >>>> it is also seen in some Native American peoples and occasionally in > > >>>> Europeans (e.g., Scandinavians and Poles). > > >>> > > >>> Thanks ![]() > > >>> > > >>> So what do you call those without the epicanthal fold? > > >> > > >> I don't recognize eye shape as an identifier. I am always > > >> uncomfortable when I have to choose among a group of people and pick a > > >> characteristic -- when saying 'the man or the woman' alone won't do. I > > >> don't like to identify by racial characteristics. > > >> Janet US > > > > > > The most popular plastic surgery for Asians is probably the blepharoplasty which adds another fold in the upper eyelid to give the eye a more Western appearance. In this case, round eyes are desirable. > > > > > > Cheek implants are also popular with Asians. My Korean mother-in-law had them. She probably got them in the 50's. By the time she was in her 90's, they had moved out of place, giving her face a saggy look. My wife didn't know about those until her doctor noticed things under her skin and inquired about it. Hoo boy, that was a shock. ![]() > > > > > > > Ha! > > > > Face falsies! > > > > Lol. > > The most famous guy with badly done cheek implants would be Japan actor Jo Shishido aka "chipmunk" face. OTOH, where would he be without them? Nowheresville man! > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5YEIS5RyME The actor who played Hyata on Ultraman always looked mixed (like, half European). http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/...path-prefix=es I think that a big part of my watching Ultraman had to do with it having one of the most beautiful actresses ever on television. https://40.media.tumblr.com/58d75ae3...7xlo1_1280.jpg --Bryan |
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On 2/7/2016 6:36 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "Alex" > wrote in message > ... >> jmcquown wrote: >>> On 12/18/2015 4:33 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: >>>> On Friday, December 18, 2015 at 4:12:27 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote: >>>> >>>>> Why not? If you dis their restaurant, you dis everyone that works >>>>> there. >>>>> Mostly that's an Asian concept. White folks are probably not that >>>>> clannish. >>>> >>>> No. It's an extremely impersonal relationship. I don't >>>> care what the kitchen thinks, nor if the chef commits >>>> seppuku because I sent back a dish. >>>> >>> I like the way you think! If I'm paying for a meal I expect to get >>> what I ordered. If it isn't what I ordered I'll tell them. What are >>> they going to do, send out a hit squad? >>> >>> I sent a pasta dish back once after finding a long black hair in it. >>> I don't have black hair. They were not "dissed". What a silly >>> notion. I didn't order pasta with hair, I'm not going to eat this. >>> >>> Jill >>> >> >> They "simply" spit in it or worse. >> The very few times I had a complaint I did NOT ask them for the same dish. Why the hell would any server be upset if something was sent back? They aren't the ones who cooked it. It's not a personal criticism. There's no "dissing" involved. dsi1's comment about dis[respecting] everyone who works in a restaurant if you send something back simply makes no sense. I'm 99% sure not one of the servers cares enough to spit in your food. Unless you're just a rude asshole. I've heard about this for years. I have worked in restaurants. Never saw anyone spit in food. It's one of those urban legends people like to perpetuate. Jill |
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On 2016-02-07 12:29 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> Why the hell would any server be upset if something was sent back? They > aren't the ones who cooked it. It's not a personal criticism. It may not be personal but there is probably an us vs. them mentality between the staff and the clientele. Hair in your food is a legitimate complaint, but some are idiotic. In some cases, the food is sent back because the person didn't realize what they ordered and they expect the restaurant to take if back because of their own personal stupidity. My nephew is a chef and told me about two cases within a week of such idiocy. He was working in a fairly pricey winery restaurant, and one likes to think that people with money should have brains. One sent back her order of sweetbreads because he is a vegetarian and did not know it was meat. Another sent back pate foie gras because it was too fatty. Those may be extremes, but when you are in a job where you face people like that on a regular basis you can feel entitled to develop an attitude. > There's > no "dissing" involved. dsi1's comment about dis[respecting] everyone > who works in a restaurant if you send something back simply makes no > sense. I'm 99% sure not one of the servers cares enough to spit in your > food. Unless you're just a rude asshole. From the stories I have heard, it is the kitchen staff who do the unmentionables to the returned meals. I treat servers nicely. Most of them are very nice. I have had waiters who were rude assholes. Right at the top of the list is the one who got increasingly rude to me when I tried to point out that he had given me too much change. He brought me back more than $60 in change after I paid for a bill that was over $60 and paid with a $100 American Express travellers cheque. He obviously assumed that it it was American dollars and gave me exchange on it. I tried to tell him three times and the third time I let him have his way to stiff himself out of $30. > > I've heard about this for years. I have worked in restaurants. Never > saw anyone spit in food. It's one of those urban legends people like to > perpetuate. It is not an urban legend. There have been cases of kitchen workers being charged and convicted of doing it. |
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On 2/7/2016 12:54 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-02-07 12:29 PM, jmcquown wrote: > >> Why the hell would any server be upset if something was sent back? They >> aren't the ones who cooked it. It's not a personal criticism. > > It may not be personal but there is probably an us vs. them mentality > between the staff and the clientele. Hair in your food is a legitimate > complaint, but some are idiotic. In some cases, the food is sent back > because the person didn't realize what they ordered and they expect the > restaurant to take if back because of their own personal stupidity. That's still a silly reason to even think about someone spitting in your food. Unless it's Amy's Restaurant and the guest is Gordon Ramsay who tells you the food is horrible. (laugh) >> no "dissing" involved. dsi1's comment about dis[respecting] everyone >> who works in a restaurant if you send something back simply makes no >> sense. I'm 99% sure not one of the servers cares enough to spit in your >> food. Unless you're just a rude asshole. > >> I've heard about this for years. I have worked in restaurants. Never >> saw anyone spit in food. It's one of those urban legends people like to >> perpetuate. > > It is not an urban legend. There have been cases of kitchen workers > being charged and convicted of doing it. > You can find anything on youtube if you look long enough. I never saw it. Most of the people are more professional than that. Jill |
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On Sunday, February 7, 2016 at 11:29:57 AM UTC-6, Jill McQuown wrote:
> On 2/7/2016 6:36 AM, Ophelia wrote: > > > > > > "Alex" > wrote in message > > ... > >> jmcquown wrote: > >>> On 12/18/2015 4:33 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > >>>> On Friday, December 18, 2015 at 4:12:27 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Why not? If you dis their restaurant, you dis everyone that works > >>>>> there. > >>>>> Mostly that's an Asian concept. White folks are probably not that > >>>>> clannish. > >>>> > >>>> No. It's an extremely impersonal relationship. I don't > >>>> care what the kitchen thinks, nor if the chef commits > >>>> seppuku because I sent back a dish. > >>>> > >>> I like the way you think! If I'm paying for a meal I expect to get > >>> what I ordered. If it isn't what I ordered I'll tell them. What are > >>> they going to do, send out a hit squad? > >>> > >>> I sent a pasta dish back once after finding a long black hair in it. > >>> I don't have black hair. They were not "dissed". What a silly > >>> notion. I didn't order pasta with hair, I'm not going to eat this. > >>> > >>> Jill > >>> > >> > >> They "simply" spit in it or worse. > >> > The very few times I had a complaint I did NOT ask them for the same dish. > > Why the hell would any server be upset if something was sent back? They > aren't the ones who cooked it. It's not a personal criticism. There's > no "dissing" involved. dsi1's comment about dis[respecting] everyone > who works in a restaurant if you send something back simply makes no > sense. I'm 99% sure not one of the servers cares enough to spit in your > food. Unless you're just a rude asshole. > > I've heard about this for years. I have worked in restaurants. Never > saw anyone spit in food. It's one of those urban legends people like to > perpetuate. > I knew someone who worked in a restaurant who said that another waitress was actually angry enough that she urinated on tomato slices served to a habitual non-tipper. Remember the lyrics I've posted here? FAST FOOD MAN V-1 The food tastes good and I'm lovin' my meal But if I got to thinkin', it could really spoil it. When I think about whether you wash your hands When you scratch your balls or use the toilet. Chorus Hey, hey, fast food man I wonder if you washed your hands. With all the things that you could do I'm gonna be real nice to you. V-2 You cough a little, and you rub your nose You wipe your forehead, and I suppose If I ****ed you off, you could spit on my food. And **** and shit and semen too. > > Jill --Bryan |
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On Sunday, February 7, 2016 at 6:17:25 AM UTC-10, MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote:
> On Sunday, December 20, 2015 at 11:49:05 AM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote: > > On Sunday, December 20, 2015 at 6:37:53 AM UTC-10, Abiquiu wrote: > > > dsi1 wrote: > > > > On Saturday, December 19, 2015 at 1:31:09 PM UTC-10, Janet B wrote: > > > >> On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 21:00:10 -0000, "Ophelia" > > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> "Janet B" > wrote in message > > > >>> ... > > > >>>> On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 18:42:04 -0000, "Ophelia" > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> "sf" > wrote in message > > > >>>>> ... > > > >>>>>> On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 09:02:10 -0700, Abiquiu > wrote: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> sf wrote: > > > >>>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 08:34:05 -0700, Abiquiu > wrote: > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> Did anyone think to send it back, or perhaps just gorge on dim sum? > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> There isn't really much mayo on it and besides, it's addictive. Once > > > >>>>>>>> you know it comes with mayo, you can always tell them to leave it > > > >>>>>>>> off. > > > >>>>>>>> I wouldn't, but you could. > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> It's not on my preferred entrees anyway, so I'd be over at steam buns > > > >>>>>>> and roast duck! > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> My goodness, you ARE a round eye! Walnut shrimp is just one of many > > > >>>>>> dishes and many courses put on the lazy susan. They come in the first > > > >>>>>> wave of food, something we Westerners could term an appetizer - but I > > > >>>>>> grab as many as I can. Crispy duck skin in a steamed bun is great, > > > >>>>>> but I'd choose sizzling rice soup over duck soup (traditionally made > > > >>>>>> with the bones of the duck you ordered, or so they claim) any day. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Round eye? > > > >>>> > > > >>>> those without the epicanthic fold. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> "Epicanthic fold, also called epicanthal fold, fold of skin across > > > >>>> the inner corner of the eye (canthus). The epicanthic fold produces > > > >>>> the eye shape characteristic of persons from central and eastern Asia; > > > >>>> it is also seen in some Native American peoples and occasionally in > > > >>>> Europeans (e.g., Scandinavians and Poles). > > > >>> > > > >>> Thanks ![]() > > > >>> > > > >>> So what do you call those without the epicanthal fold? > > > >> > > > >> I don't recognize eye shape as an identifier. I am always > > > >> uncomfortable when I have to choose among a group of people and pick a > > > >> characteristic -- when saying 'the man or the woman' alone won't do. I > > > >> don't like to identify by racial characteristics. > > > >> Janet US > > > > > > > > The most popular plastic surgery for Asians is probably the blepharoplasty which adds another fold in the upper eyelid to give the eye a more Western appearance. In this case, round eyes are desirable. > > > > > > > > Cheek implants are also popular with Asians. My Korean mother-in-law had them. She probably got them in the 50's. By the time she was in her 90's, they had moved out of place, giving her face a saggy look. My wife didn't know about those until her doctor noticed things under her skin and inquired about it. Hoo boy, that was a shock. ![]() > > > > > > > > > > Ha! > > > > > > Face falsies! > > > > > > Lol. > > > > The most famous guy with badly done cheek implants would be Japan actor Jo Shishido aka "chipmunk" face. OTOH, where would he be without them? Nowheresville man! > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5YEIS5RyME > > The actor who played Hyata on Ultraman always looked mixed (like, half > European). > http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/...path-prefix=es > > I think that a big part of my watching Ultraman had to do with it having one > of the most beautiful actresses ever on television. > > https://40.media.tumblr.com/58d75ae3...7xlo1_1280.jpg > > --Bryan There's a lot of hapa people around here. My guess is that the people of the future will be all mixed up - in a good way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEjmnWjqRjQ |
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