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On 12/2/2015 9:18 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Dec 2015 06:10:28 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:


>> I'm looking for a candidate who is intelligent and grasps
>> that issues are complex and it may take time to craft
>> an appropriate response when cause and effect (and
>> side-effects) are not straightforward. A proven ability
>> to work well with others is also required.


> Laudable, but even before those qualities, I insist my ideal candidate
> *not* be fascist.
>
> I do not think that racism and bigotry can be construed as "a fresh
> breath of air" in any election cycle.


He's also the opposite of amusing in this race. He's more
like a breath of backed up sewage.

nancy

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> On 12/1/2015 7:48 AM, sf wrote:
> > No. Donald Trump's

> (major snippage)
>
> Please take this to a political newsgroup.


You've obviously never been to a political newsgroup. There is no
discussion on any of them. Just a bunch of trolls calling each
other idiots and worse.

Be prepared to deal with some polical talk here, Jill. It's an
election year. At least we can get a post or two before it degenerates
into "you're an idiot, plonk"
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Brooklyn1 wrote:
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> Gary wrote:
> >The one thing that will *always* get me if I'm wearing a nice shirt is
> >a plate of spaghetti with red sauce. Never fails.

>
> That's not from cooking, that from how you eat. LOL


Yeah...I'm a slob! When eating spaghetti, I should tuck my napkin up
under my collar. hahaha
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In article >, says...
>
> Janet wrote:
> >
> > Ferrets probably stink less that Trumps
> > ethics.

>
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>
> > Trump is so full of nonsense it's oozing outn of his follicles.

>
> Once he walls off Mexico, he's gonna invade Scotland.


Scotland already gave Trump his jotters.

> He likes that golf course there.


Not any more, he's too scared of the windfarms messing up his hair.

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Cindy Hamilton wrote:
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> I'm looking for a candidate who is intelligent and grasps
> that issues are complex and it may take time to craft
> an appropriate response when cause and effect (and
> side-effects) are not straightforward. A proven ability
> to work well with others is also required.


I agree with you. Again, I'm not promoting Donald but so far, the more
I hear, the more I like. I'm so tired of the same-ol-same-ol dud
candidates when most times I find myself just voting for the lesser of
the evil.

This guy speaks his mind, offends many, but his poll standing goes up.
I suspect that many americans are tired of all the same old crap every
4 years. This is NOT the religious right pubs that we've had lately
either. I suspect he would be the best pub choice vs the Clintons.

Clintons were nice and we all liked them but splat. It will be the
same old crap for another 4-8 years.

Our forefathers meant for politics to be a temporary thing...offices
held for a short while, then get in some new blood. These days, it's
all career politics and that is taking us down.

If the election was held tomorrow, I'd vote out all the old school and
bring in all new people, Trump included. There would definitely be
some big changes. Good or bad, who knows. Sometimes you have to take
some risk to get ahead. For now, I would be willing to risk it.

As Ed said, if only there was a 90-day trial period.
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Osmium wrote:
> "jmcquown" wrote:
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>> Someone wrote to the Dataw Net about having to re-boot his
>> refrigerator. Okay, this is when technology is not helpuful, it's stupid.
>>
>> He had to unplug and plug in his refrigerator and let it go through a
>> boot cycle before "all the computers in the fridge" it turned back on.
>> What? You had to reboot your refrigerator?!
>>
>> Me, the power went out. No big deal. I have a book light and books.
>> My refrigerator/freezer turned back on when the power kicked in.
>>
>> This is where technology loses my interest. A person should not have
>> to reboot their refrigerator.

>
> I had to reboot my refrigerator, the temperature control was terribly
> erratic. I hope the people who make service appointments tell people to
> reboot the refrigerator before making an actual appointment, it takes a
> day or so to see if the reboot solved the problem.


Great tip, tnx!
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Gary wrote:
> I like that
> attitude and I'll bet many USAins agree with me.
> (Not in this group though) heheh


He publicly disrespects and bullies women too!

Very much YOUR kinda guy.
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> I do not think that racism and bigotry can be construed as "a fresh
> breath of air" in any election cycle.


Donald Trump IS a fresh breath of air in the candidate sense. You
might not like what he says but many people do. You fit right in the
mold when I said nobody here will like him. I'm still undecided but
I'm listening.

Dt said, 'I'm So Tired Of This Politically Correct Crap'

That's a pretty good start for me.
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On 2015-12-01 9:07 PM, graham wrote:

>> Well, be afraid. Be very afraid. Sarah Palin was running with McCain
>> not too long ago. It scares the hell out of me that our neighbours had
>> someone that stupid that close to the presidency.
>>

> I think the rest of the civilized world looks upon the US political
> candidates with bewilderment. How could a supposedly civilized country
> take such a load of yahoos seriously.
>



I am still in shock over the nonsense by the far right about John
Kerry's military record. I read his book. He did volunteer. He did
serve in Vietnam. He did volunteer for the more hazardous Swift Boat
duty. He was decorated for his actions, which he thought were no big
deal. Hell, the armed forces hand out medals like elementary schools
hand out gold stars. He did receive minor wounds. He said they were
minor, but he did not like what was going on so he used the three wound
deal to get out. Republicans dumped on him for being a coward and
fighting against the war.

Meanwhile, their boy was in a frat boy National Guard unit that, at
the time, was not likely to be deployed, and he never even completed his
obligation. It boggles me that they would try that nonsense in view of
the way Bush had (not) served. It boggles me even more than a lot of
people bought into it.

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Janet wrote:
>> He likes that golf course there.

> Not any more, he's too scared of the windfarms messing up his hair.
>
> Janet UK


Cry us a river, albeit a frozen one, when "climate change" shuts down
the global conveyor and you Luddites chased off wind power AND fracking.

Idjits!
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Gary wrote:
> If the election was held tomorrow, I'd vote out all the old school and
> bring in all new people, Trump included. There would definitely be
> some big changes. Good or bad, who knows. Sometimes you have to take
> some risk to get ahead. For now, I would be willing to risk it.


Very interesting....
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> I am still in shock over the nonsense by the far right about John
> Kerry's military record. I read his book.



Pull your head out of the deep past fool, he ain't running, except from
ISIL and GWB is enjoying his retirement in Houston.

Nattering old farts like you are why nothing ever improves.


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On 12/2/2015 10:12 AM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> On 12/1/2015 7:48 AM, sf wrote:
>>> No. Donald Trump's

>> (major snippage)
>>
>> Please take this to a political newsgroup.

>
> You've obviously never been to a political newsgroup. There is no
> discussion on any of them. Just a bunch of trolls calling each
> other idiots and worse.
>

That's how it always is with politics. Let them bash it out in another ng.

> Be prepared to deal with some polical talk here, Jill. It's an
> election year. At least we can get a post or two before it degenerates
> into "you're an idiot, plonk"
>

Gary. I'm not a newbie. I've been reading rfc since 1997. The topic
was bay scallops. *If* any presidential candidate has a recipe for
pan-seared scallops I'll be more than happy to read about it. Until
then, STFU and take your politics somewhere else.

Jill
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On 12/1/2015 9:34 AM, Gary wrote:
> MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote:
>>
>> Hahahaha. You were a Boy Scout. What a dork.

>
> heheh I learned quite a lot from that gang. Not a waste of time.
>
>> one of those stupid meetings one time, in 5th grade. It was during
>> Viet Nam, and I wouldn't stand for the stupid Pledge of Allegiance,
>> and they were foolish enough to ask why. I was ****ed about being
>> there to begin with, so...

>
> "Rebel without a cause"
>

Rebel without a Clue.

Jill
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jmcquown wrote:
> On 12/2/2015 10:12 AM, Gary wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>> On 12/1/2015 7:48 AM, sf wrote:
>>>> No. Donald Trump's
>>> (major snippage)
>>>
>>> Please take this to a political newsgroup.

>>
>> You've obviously never been to a political newsgroup. There is no
>> discussion on any of them. Just a bunch of trolls calling each
>> other idiots and worse.
>>

> That's how it always is with politics. Let them bash it out in another ng.


Good luck with that!

>> Be prepared to deal with some polical talk here, Jill. It's an
>> election year. At least we can get a post or two before it degenerates
>> into "you're an idiot, plonk"
>>

> Gary. I'm not a newbie. I've been reading rfc since 1997. The topic
> was bay scallops. *If* any presidential candidate has a recipe for
> pan-seared scallops I'll be more than happy to read about it. Until
> then, STFU and take your politics somewhere else.
>
> Jill


Sounds like you want to takeover as moderator here...

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/presidenti...ry?id=17607280

Presidential Eats: 15 Recipes From Presidents, First Ladies and Nominees
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On Wed, 2 Dec 2015 09:45:23 -0500, Nancy Young
> wrote:

>On 12/2/2015 9:18 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:
>> On Wed, 2 Dec 2015 06:10:28 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:

>
>>> I'm looking for a candidate who is intelligent and grasps
>>> that issues are complex and it may take time to craft
>>> an appropriate response when cause and effect (and
>>> side-effects) are not straightforward. A proven ability
>>> to work well with others is also required.

>
>> Laudable, but even before those qualities, I insist my ideal candidate
>> *not* be fascist.
>>
>> I do not think that racism and bigotry can be construed as "a fresh
>> breath of air" in any election cycle.

>
>He's also the opposite of amusing in this race. He's more
>like a breath of backed up sewage.
>
>nancy


eYup.
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jmcquown wrote:
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> On 12/2/2015 10:12 AM, Gary wrote:
> > Be prepared to deal with some polical talk here, Jill. It's an
> > election year. At least we can get a post or two before it degenerates
> > into "you're an idiot, plonk"
> >

> Gary. I'm not a newbie. I've been reading rfc since 1997.


Yeah and that makes you special.

> The topic
> was bay scallops. *If* any presidential candidate has a recipe for
> pan-seared scallops I'll be more than happy to read about it. Until
> then, STFU and take your politics somewhere else.


Unlike you, Donald Trump probably knows how to cook bay scallops
properly.


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On Wed, 02 Dec 2015 11:16:00 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Boron Elgar wrote:
>>
>> I do not think that racism and bigotry can be construed as "a fresh
>> breath of air" in any election cycle.

>
>Donald Trump IS a fresh breath of air in the candidate sense.


Really? You never heard of George Wallace or Jesse Helms or Lester
Maddox or similar? Racism and bigotry are no new to US politics. You
should read up on it.


>You
>might not like what he says but many people do.


Ota racists and bigots out there. There is no surprise there.


>You fit right in the
>mold when I said nobody here will like him.


Yeah, imagine that - there are thinking, caring people around here.



> I'm still undecided but
>I'm listening.


Then you are an asshole.
>
>Dt said, 'I'm So Tired Of This Politically Correct Crap'


Yeah, me, too, that is why I called you an asshole.
>
>That's a pretty good start for me.


Being an ass hole? Wow...where does one go from there?

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> Then you are an asshole.
> >

> Yeah, me, too, that is why I called you an asshole.
> >

> Being an ass hole? Wow...where does one go from there?


It didn't take your small mind long to jump right to name calling.
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On 12/2/2015 11:47 AM, Gary wrote:
> Unlike you, Donald Trump probably knows how to cook bay scallops
> properly.
>

When he decides to share a recipe I'll be happy to listen.

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jmcquown wrote:
> On 12/2/2015 11:47 AM, Gary wrote:
>> Unlike you, Donald Trump probably knows how to cook bay scallops
>> properly.
>>

> When he decides to share a recipe I'll be happy to listen.
>
> Jill


Sure, Oprah was too:

https://recipes.sparkpeople.com/reci...recipe=1646376

Oprah found a new favorite food when she tried this turkey burger at
Mar-a-Lago, Donald Trump's private club in Palm Beach. "I believe [it]
may be the best turkey burger in the entire world," she says. The
Mar-a-Lago Turkey Burger will be permanently available at the Trump Bar
and Grille in Trump Tower in New York City, open to the public for lunch
and dinner. It will also be served during lunch in Chicago at Sixteen,
the Trump International Hotel restaurant.


Number of Servings: 18

Ingredients

1/4 cup thinly sliced scallions
1/2 cup finely chopped celery
3 Granny Smith apples , peeled and diced
1/8 cup canola oil
4 pounds ground turkey breast
2 Tbsp. salt
1 Tbsp. black pepper
2 tsp. Tabasco® chipotle pepper sauce
1 lemon , juiced and grated zest
1/2 bunch parsley , finely chopped
1/4 cup Major Grey's Chutney , pureed

http://www.naturalnews.com/050266_Do...ic_food.htm l

Donald Trump enjoys healthy lifestyle, stresses importance of wellness
and positivity

In stark contrast to Buffet's love of junk food is Donald Trump's
healthy lifestyle, which includes exercise and the consumption of
organic foods. (Note to Buffet: we've even seen pictures and videos of
him smiling, in case you needed proof that healthy eaters are happy!)

His daughter Ivanka explains that the family eats fresh, organic meals,
which she often prepares for them. His children also oversee the foods
served at the Trump hotels, which include vegan, organic and gluten-free
in-room dining menus. Whenever possible, the hotels also obtain
locally-sourced foods. In fact, their way of eating and living has been
dubbed "The Trump Wellness Plan," which is fitting considering his
healthy habits.

Add to this Donald Trump's outlook on wellness and physical activity,
and it's clear that he enjoys good health. For example, a known golf
lover, Trump says it's an ideal way to diminish stress and ponder
business tasks while walking. He says, "I find it opens my mind to new
possibilities, and I can problem-solve very effectively while I'm on the
golf course."

Furthermore, he says that he strives to maintain a positive mentality,
doing everything he can to keep negative energy away and surround
himself with uplifting thoughts and environments.

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On 2015-11-30 8:23 AM, Gary wrote:

> No, I'll bet he'd never wear it. It's kind of a "pansy" thing for
> boys. I've got a few old ones here for young daughter but she never
> used them. I've never used one either and I don't recall ever getting
> food on my regular clothes.
>
> I suspect "Betty Crocker" and June Cleaver are the only women to use
> one. Do any of the women here use an apron while cooking? Maybe only
> if you are a sloppy cook. Never see any valid tv chefs using an apron.



Actually, back in the days of Betty Crocker and June Cleaver, most women
used them. In those days, women stayed home and looked after their
homes and cooked for their husbands, and tried to look good for them.
They wore nice clothes and tried to protect them because laundry was so
much more work. Washing machines were not automatic, and most things had
to be ironed. All the more reason to protect them from flour dust and
spattering grease.

My grandfather used to do the baking in his household, and he cooked the
big family dinners. We was always well dressed, so when he cooked he
wore an apron.




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On 2015-12-02 11:54 AM, Gary wrote:
> Boron Elgar wrote:
>>


>> Being an ass hole? Wow...where does one go from there?

>
> It didn't take your small mind long to jump right to name calling.
>



It saves the time it takes to present a credible rebuttal.
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On 02/12/2015 9:17 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2015-12-01 9:07 PM, graham wrote:
>
>>> Well, be afraid. Be very afraid. Sarah Palin was running with McCain
>>> not too long ago. It scares the hell out of me that our neighbours had
>>> someone that stupid that close to the presidency.
>>>

>> I think the rest of the civilized world looks upon the US political
>> candidates with bewilderment. How could a supposedly civilized country
>> take such a load of yahoos seriously.
>>

>
>
> I am still in shock over the nonsense by the far right about John
> Kerry's military record. I read his book. He did volunteer. He did
> serve in Vietnam. He did volunteer for the more hazardous Swift Boat
> duty. He was decorated for his actions, which he thought were no big
> deal. Hell, the armed forces hand out medals like elementary schools
> hand out gold stars. He did receive minor wounds. He said they were
> minor, but he did not like what was going on so he used the three wound
> deal to get out. Republicans dumped on him for being a coward and
> fighting against the war.
>
> Meanwhile, their boy was in a frat boy National Guard unit that, at
> the time, was not likely to be deployed, and he never even completed his
> obligation. It boggles me that they would try that nonsense in view of
> the way Bush had (not) served. It boggles me even more than a lot of
> people bought into it.
>


One Very Well Written Sentence From the Portland Oregonian:

"Other than telling us how to live, think, marry, pray, vote, invest,
educate our children and, now, die, I think the Republicans have done a
fine job of getting government out of our personal lives."

Also:
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag
and carrying a cross."
Sinclair Lewis.



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On Wednesday, December 2, 2015 at 12:22:49 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:

> Actually, back in the days of Betty Crocker and June Cleaver, most women
> used them. In those days, women stayed home and looked after their
> homes and cooked for their husbands, and tried to look good for them.


Please be careful about generalizations. I'd have let
it pass if you'd said "most women stayed home".

Back in the days of Betty Crocker and June Cleaver,
my grandmother, her sister, and my mother all worked
outside the home.

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On Wed, 02 Dec 2015 09:21:15 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Janet wrote:
>>
>> Ferrets probably stink less that Trumps
>> ethics.

>
>http://i59.tinypic.com/vgrmme.jpg
>
>
>> Trump is so full of nonsense it's oozing outn of his follicles.

>
>Once he walls off Mexico, he's gonna invade Scotland. He likes that
>golf course there. Prepare yourselves to become our 51st state.
>England won't help you on this one. For the US, taking Scotland will
>be about as hard as the Grenada thing in 1983. hahaha


A pox on you sir!!
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Gary wrote:
>jmcquown wrote:
>>Gary wrote:
>> > Be prepared to deal with some polical talk here, Jill. It's an
>> > election year. At least we can get a post or two before it degenerates
>> > into "you're an idiot, plonk"
>> >

>> Gary. I'm not a newbie. I've been reading rfc since 1997.

>
>Yeah and that makes you special.
>
>> The topic
>> was bay scallops. *If* any presidential candidate has a recipe for
>> pan-seared scallops I'll be more than happy to read about it. Until
>> then, STFU and take your politics somewhere else.

>
>Unlike you, Donald Trump probably knows how to cook bay scallops
>properly.


The Donald can buy the whole friggin' bay! hehe

Scallop Bisque by Chef Mick Donald Trump:
http://www.adorefoods.com/irish-scallop-bisque-recipe/
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On Wednesday, December 2, 2015 at 11:59:56 AM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 2, 2015 at 12:22:49 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> > Actually, back in the days of Betty Crocker and June Cleaver, most women
> > used them. In those days, women stayed home and looked after their
> > homes and cooked for their husbands, and tried to look good for them.


> Please be careful about generalizations. I'd have let
> it pass if you'd said "most women stayed home".
> Back in the days of Betty Crocker and June Cleaver,
> my grandmother, her sister, and my mother all worked
> outside the home.
> Cindy Hamilton


Not even "most women." "Most middle-class women," maybe. (Although the
numbers after WWII indicate many, many women stayed in the workforce.)

Poor women have always worked outside the home.

All that aside - I wear an apron unless I have on clothes I really don't
care about. I am sloppy, but also, I can clip a towel to my apron
so I always have it handy to dry my hands after washing - which I do
a lot when I'm cooking.

My brothers also wear aprons. I don't believe they worry too much whether
strangers will find them insufficiently masculine because of it.


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On Wed, 02 Dec 2015 11:05:28 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> I'm looking for a candidate who is intelligent and grasps
>> that issues are complex and it may take time to craft
>> an appropriate response when cause and effect (and
>> side-effects) are not straightforward. A proven ability
>> to work well with others is also required.

>
>I agree with you. Again, I'm not promoting Donald but so far, the more
>I hear, the more I like. I'm so tired of the same-ol-same-ol dud
>candidates when most times I find myself just voting for the lesser of
>the evil.
>
>This guy speaks his mind, offends many, but his poll standing goes up.
>I suspect that many americans are tired of all the same old crap every
>4 years. This is NOT the religious right pubs that we've had lately
>either. I suspect he would be the best pub choice vs the Clintons.
>
>Clintons were nice and we all liked them but splat. It will be the
>same old crap for another 4-8 years.
>
>Our forefathers meant for politics to be a temporary thing...offices
>held for a short while, then get in some new blood. These days, it's
>all career politics and that is taking us down.
>
>If the election was held tomorrow, I'd vote out all the old school and
>bring in all new people, Trump included. There would definitely be
>some big changes. Good or bad, who knows. Sometimes you have to take
>some risk to get ahead. For now, I would be willing to risk it.
>
>As Ed said, if only there was a 90-day trial period.


I'd never vote for Hillary, I can't respect a women who stays with a
cheating pig spouse... Hillary is much more a deviate than Bubba.
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el pedophile > wrote:

>Gary wrote:
>> I like that
>> attitude and I'll bet many USAins agree with me.
>> (Not in this group though) heheh

>
>He publicly disrespects and bullies women too!
>
>Very much YOUR kinda guy.


Your kinda guy is obviously a faggot pedophile... you won't even
disclose your real name you phoney spic illegal phuck phraidy cat.
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On 2015-12-02 12:59 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 2, 2015 at 12:22:49 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
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>> Actually, back in the days of Betty Crocker and June Cleaver, most women
>> used them. In those days, women stayed home and looked after their
>> homes and cooked for their husbands, and tried to look good for them.

>
> Please be careful about generalizations. I'd have let
> it pass if you'd said "most women stayed home".
>



As long as you agree about "most women", as opposed to the "all women"
that I did not write.



> Back in the days of Betty Crocker and June Cleaver,
> my grandmother, her sister, and my mother all worked
> outside the home.


My mother was a homemaker. All my friend's mothers where homemakers. In
fact, the "work outside of the home" thing was not used back then
because women either worked or were homemakers who stayed home and
looked after the kids and did all those housework chores that took so
much more time than they do now, and they usually had more kids to look
after than mothers today. Back then, married women sometimes worked
only until they started having children, or else if their husbands did
not earn enough to support them. I had an who was divorced and lived
with my grandparents. She worked and my grandparents looked after her
son. I had another aunt who owned her own business. She and my uncle
had careers instead of children.


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Brooklyn1 wrote:
> el pedophile > wrote:
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>> Gary wrote:
>>> I like that
>>> attitude and I'll bet many USAins agree with me.
>>> (Not in this group though) heheh

>>
>> He publicly disrespects and bullies women too!
>>
>> Very much YOUR kinda guy.

>
> Your kinda guy is obviously a faggot pedophile... you won't even
> disclose your real name you phoney spic illegal phuck phraidy cat.
>


Lesse now, you managed to slander: gays, Latinos, border jumpers AND cats!

A new record.
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