I really can't believe this! Auburn (city near here) residents will be
fined $30 per day if they use window AC.

http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/mess...and-you/nmq6s/

On Fri, 3 Jul 2015 17:04:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>I really can't believe this! Auburn (city near here) residents will be
>fined $30 per day if they use window AC.
>
>http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/mess...and-you/nmq6s/

Homeowner's associations are like little local governments! Often VERY
overly restrictive.

John Kuthe...

On 7/3/2015 6:19 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Jul 2015 17:04:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> I really can't believe this! Auburn (city near here) residents will be
>> fined $30 per day if they use window AC.
>>
>> http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/mess...and-you/nmq6s/
>
> Homeowner's associations are like little local governments! Often VERY
> overly restrictive.
>
> John Kuthe...
>
They ask you to mow down yer weeds again?

"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 3 Jul 2015 17:04:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>I really can't believe this! Auburn (city near here) residents will be
>>fined $30 per day if they use window AC.
>>
>>http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/mess...and-you/nmq6s/
>
> Homeowner's associations are like little local governments! Often VERY
> overly restrictive.
>
> John Kuthe...

I guess so. I never lived any place that had one.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
news
>> On Fri, 3 Jul 2015 17:04:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>I really can't believe this! Auburn (city near here) residents will be
>>>fined $30 per day if they use window AC.
>>>
>>>http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/mess...and-you/nmq6s/
>
> As usual, you have bent the truth to make your gripe (which doesn't
> even concern you) more dramatic. This is a HOA, *not* the City of
> Auburn.

I didn't say that it *was* the city but it does apply to some of the
residents who live there.

On Friday, July 3, 2015 at 11:07:47 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> news
> >> On Fri, 3 Jul 2015 17:04:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>>I really can't believe this! Auburn (city near here) residents will be
> >>>fined $30 per day if they use window AC.
> >>>
> >>>http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/mess...and-you/nmq6s/
> >
> > As usual, you have bent the truth to make your gripe (which doesn't
> > even concern you) more dramatic. This is a HOA, *not* the City of
> > Auburn.
>
> I didn't say that it *was* the city but it does apply to some of the
> residents who live there.

"Auburn residents" - now doesn't that imply ALL residents of a city? Dumb-ass.

Now, let's hear the back-paddlin'. Writer - HA.

On 7/4/2015 9:31 AM, Kalmia wrote:
> On Friday, July 3, 2015 at 11:07:47 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> news
>>>> On Fri, 3 Jul 2015 17:04:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I really can't believe this! Auburn (city near here) residents will be
>>>>> fined $30 per day if they use window AC.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/mess...and-you/nmq6s/
>>>
>>> As usual, you have bent the truth to make your gripe (which doesn't
>>> even concern you) more dramatic. This is a HOA, *not* the City of
>>> Auburn.
>>
>> I didn't say that it *was* the city but it does apply to some of the
>> residents who live there.
>
> "Auburn residents" - now doesn't that imply ALL residents of a city? Dumb-ass.
>
> Now, let's hear the back-paddlin'. Writer - HA.
>

Much nit picking could have been avoided has she added the word "some"
in front of Auburn. OTOH, it gave a few people a delightful opportunity
to pounce on the poster.

On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 09:48:45 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> Much nit picking could have been avoided has she added the word "some"
> in front of Auburn. OTOH, it gave a few people a delightful opportunity
> to pounce on the poster.

10, to be exact. "Ten letters from the Lakeland Homeowners
Association Board of Directors have been sent out to residents that
warn of fines of $30 a day for not removing window air conditioners."



--

sf

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/4/2015 9:31 AM, Kalmia wrote:
>> On Friday, July 3, 2015 at 11:07:47 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>> news >>>>> On Fri, 3 Jul 2015 17:04:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I really can't believe this! Auburn (city near here) residents will
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> fined $30 per day if they use window AC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/mess...and-you/nmq6s/
>>>>
>>>> As usual, you have bent the truth to make your gripe (which doesn't
>>>> even concern you) more dramatic. This is a HOA, *not* the City of
>>>> Auburn.
>>>
>>> I didn't say that it *was* the city but it does apply to some of the
>>> residents who live there.
>>
>> "Auburn residents" - now doesn't that imply ALL residents of a city?
>> Dumb-ass.
>>
>> Now, let's hear the back-paddlin'. Writer - HA.
>>
>
> Much nit picking could have been avoided has she added the word "some" in
> front of Auburn. OTOH, it gave a few people a delightful opportunity to
> pounce on the poster.

I try to keep the subject line as short as I can.

On 7/4/2015 9:35 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> She's exaggerated like this dozens of times before.

**** off, you woman-hating stalker!



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"Sqwertz" wrote in message
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>She's exaggerated like this dozens of times before.

She's a worthless troll. Thanks for pointing that out.

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"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 09:48:45 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> On 7/4/2015 9:31 AM, Kalmia wrote:
>>> On Friday, July 3, 2015 at 11:07:47 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>>> news >>>>>> On Fri, 3 Jul 2015 17:04:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I really can't believe this! Auburn (city near here) residents will
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> fined $30 per day if they use window AC.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/mess...and-you/nmq6s/
>>>>>
>>>>> As usual, you have bent the truth to make your gripe (which doesn't
>>>>> even concern you) more dramatic. This is a HOA, *not* the City of
>>>>> Auburn.
>>>>
>>>> I didn't say that it *was* the city but it does apply to some of the
>>>> residents who live there.
>>>
>>> "Auburn residents" - now doesn't that imply ALL residents of a city?
>>> Dumb-ass.
>>>
>>> Now, let's hear the back-paddlin'. Writer - HA.
>>>
>>
>> Much nit picking could have been avoided has she added the word "some"
>> in front of Auburn. OTOH, it gave a few people a delightful opportunity
>> to pounce on the poster.
>
> She's exaggerated like this dozens of times before. Maybe the first
> couple times she'd get a pass, but it's her standard MO nowadays. And
> especially an OT post which doesn't even concern her.

I didn't exaggerate. I didn't write the piece. I just reposted it. Heck
the link just says "residents". Why don't you go attack whoever made that
link? That would apply to everyone. We're all residents somewhere.

"Kalmia" > wrote in message
...
> On Friday, July 3, 2015 at 11:07:47 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> news
>> >> On Fri, 3 Jul 2015 17:04:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>I really can't believe this! Auburn (city near here) residents will
>> >>>be
>> >>>fined $30 per day if they use window AC.
>> >>>
>> >>>http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/mess...and-you/nmq6s/
>> >
>> > As usual, you have bent the truth to make your gripe (which doesn't
>> > even concern you) more dramatic. This is a HOA, *not* the City of
>> > Auburn.
>>
>> I didn't say that it *was* the city but it does apply to some of the
>> residents who live there.
>
> "Auburn residents" - now doesn't that imply ALL residents of a city?
> Dumb-ass.
>
> Now, let's hear the back-paddlin'. Writer - HA.

I am not the one who made the title of the piece.

On 7/3/2015 6:53 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> As usual, you have bent the truth

**** off woman-hater.


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On Fri, 3 Jul 2015 19:53:24 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>> On Fri, 3 Jul 2015 17:04:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>I really can't believe this! Auburn (city near here) residents will be
>>>fined $30 per day if they use window AC.
>>>
>>>http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/mess...and-you/nmq6s/
>
>As usual, you have bent the truth to make your gripe (which doesn't
>even concern you) more dramatic. This is a HOA, *not* the City of
>Auburn.
>
>-sw

Control is control, and that's exactly what HOAs and crap do, they
seek to contro/limitl people and their behaviors.

If you don't get that, you are very ignorant.

John Kuthe...

On 7/4/2015 6:53 AM, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Jul 2015 19:53:24 -0500, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
>>> On Fri, 3 Jul 2015 17:04:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I really can't believe this! Auburn (city near here) residents will be
>>>> fined $30 per day if they use window AC.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/mess...and-you/nmq6s/
>>
>> As usual, you have bent the truth to make your gripe (which doesn't
>> even concern you) more dramatic. This is a HOA, *not* the City of
>> Auburn.
>>
>> -sw
>
> Control is control, and that's exactly what HOAs and crap do, they
> seek to contro/limitl people and their behaviors.
>
> If you don't get that, you are very ignorant.
>
> John Kuthe...
>

An HOA only exists because it's members/owners sign a CONTRACT to adhere
to certain agreed upon rules.

That must chafe an irresponsible oaf like you.

On 7/3/2015 8:53 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Fri, 3 Jul 2015 17:04:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I really can't believe this! Auburn (city near here) residents will be
>>> fined $30 per day if they use window AC.
>>>
>>> http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/mess...and-you/nmq6s/
>
> As usual, you have bent the truth to make your gripe (which doesn't
> even concern you) more dramatic. This is a HOA, *not* the City of
> Auburn.

Quite a different story. Anyway, the residents knew the rule,
they bought the wrong kind of A/C anyway. So if enough residents
don't like the rule, they need to get together, figure out how to
change the rule, and do that.

Or get the kind of a/c permitted and retain the nice appearance
of their development.

nancy

On 7/4/2015 9:07 AM, Nancy Young wrote:

>
> Quite a different story. Anyway, the residents knew the rule,
> they bought the wrong kind of A/C anyway. So if enough residents
> don't like the rule, they need to get together, figure out how to
> change the rule, and do that.
>
> Or get the kind of a/c permitted and retain the nice appearance
> of their development.
>
> nancy

Yea, but. . .

While you are technically correct, the circumstances are a bit unusual.
Hotter than normal weather hit the area. AC was not needed in that
area in the past. The portable type of AC may not have been readily
available at the time.

Are you going to deny comfort to an 85 year old resident that is able to
get a $150 room AC for relief? I bet a few residents could get a doctor
to claim it was an emergency medical necessity.

I'd stick it in a back window and screw the HOA. OTOH, I'd never live in
a place with an HOA in the first place.

On 7/4/2015 9:57 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 7/4/2015 9:07 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>>
>> Quite a different story. Anyway, the residents knew the rule,
>> they bought the wrong kind of A/C anyway. So if enough residents
>> don't like the rule, they need to get together, figure out how to
>> change the rule, and do that.
>>
>> Or get the kind of a/c permitted and retain the nice appearance
>> of their development.

> Yea, but. . .
>
> While you are technically correct, the circumstances are a bit unusual.
> Hotter than normal weather hit the area. AC was not needed in that
> area in the past. The portable type of AC may not have been readily
> available at the time.

Fair enough, if that's the case.

> Are you going to deny comfort to an 85 year old resident that is able to
> get a $150 room AC for relief?

Of course not, people that age die in droves in that kind of weather.

> I bet a few residents could get a doctor
> to claim it was an emergency medical necessity.

The HOA's actions are just foolish. It's that kind of abuse that
leads to laws overriding what they can enforce. They can't look
the other way while this heat wave lasts and deal with the subject
later?

> I'd stick it in a back window and screw the HOA. OTOH, I'd never live in
> a place with an HOA in the first place.

As I've said, condos aside, they aren't common where I live. However,
it seems like there are a lot of places where they're a fact of life.
I can't see myself paying someone to boss me around. I understand if
it's a condo situation, you have to have an HOA. I don't want to
pay for neighborhood amenities I'm not interested in using. I can see
the usefulness of having some rules to deal with messy properties,
barking dogs, whatever. Overall, it doesn't appeal to me, either.

nancy

On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 11:10:42 AM UTC-4, Nancy Young wrote:

> I can see
> the usefulness of having some rules to deal with messy properties,
> barking dogs, whatever. Overall, it doesn't appeal to me, either.

And that's what a good municipal government is for. Regrettably,
some areas have ceded their responsibilities to HOAs.

Cindy Hamilton

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/4/2015 9:07 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>>
>> Quite a different story. Anyway, the residents knew the rule,
>> they bought the wrong kind of A/C anyway. So if enough residents
>> don't like the rule, they need to get together, figure out how to
>> change the rule, and do that.
>>
>> Or get the kind of a/c permitted and retain the nice appearance
>> of their development.
>>
>> nancy
>
> Yea, but. . .
>
> While you are technically correct, the circumstances are a bit unusual.
> Hotter than normal weather hit the area. AC was not needed in that area
> in the past. The portable type of AC may not have been readily available
> at the time.

Yes. You can find window units even at some drug and grocery stores. You
can't find portable ones in too many places and if you want one you might
have to go online. When I did look at Amazon, many of those units take 2-5
months to ship. Now you could get lucky like my friend did. She got one
for cheap at the store where her husband works. But normally they are not
even something you'd see in a store here.
>
> Are you going to deny comfort to an 85 year old resident that is able to
> get a $150 room AC for relief? I bet a few residents could get a doctor
> to claim it was an emergency medical necessity.
>
> I'd stick it in a back window and screw the HOA. OTOH, I'd never live in a
> place with an HOA in the first place.

I'm with you!

Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On 7/4/2015 9:07 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Quite a different story. Anyway, the residents knew the rule,
> > > they bought the wrong kind of A/C anyway. So if enough residents
> > > don't like the rule, they need to get together, figure out how to
> > > change the rule, and do that.
> > >
> > > Or get the kind of a/c permitted and retain the nice appearance
> > > of their development.
> > >
> > > nancy
> >
> > Yea, but. . .
> >
> > While you are technically correct, the circumstances are a bit
> > unusual. Hotter than normal weather hit the area. AC was not
> > needed in that area in the past. The portable type of AC may not
> > have been readily available at the time.
>
> Yes. You can find window units even at some drug and grocery stores.
> You can't find portable ones in too many places and if you want one
> you might have to go online. When I did look at Amazon, many of
> those units take 2-5 months to ship. Now you could get lucky like my
> friend did. She got one for cheap at the store where her husband
> works. But normally they are not even something you'd see in a store
> here.

Try that again. I got one off Amazon.com, used the free shipping and
it was here in 4 days. I do not see ANY that take 2-5 months to ship.

Post the URL of one that does take that long or retract that statement
because you are lying. Even if you CAN find one that slow, it will take
you a long time to find one.

Carol

On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 09:57:29 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 7/4/2015 9:07 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>>
>> Quite a different story. Anyway, the residents knew the rule,
>> they bought the wrong kind of A/C anyway. So if enough residents
>> don't like the rule, they need to get together, figure out how to
>> change the rule, and do that.
>>
>> Or get the kind of a/c permitted and retain the nice appearance
>> of their development.
>>
>> nancy
>
>Yea, but. . .
>
>While you are technically correct, the circumstances are a bit unusual.
> Hotter than normal weather hit the area. AC was not needed in that
>area in the past. The portable type of AC may not have been readily
>available at the time.
>
>Are you going to deny comfort to an 85 year old resident that is able to
>get a $150 room AC for relief? I bet a few residents could get a doctor
>to claim it was an emergency medical necessity.
>
>I'd stick it in a back window and screw the HOA. OTOH, I'd never live in
>a place with an HOA in the first place.

For example, someone like me with MS. People with MS are particularly
sensitive to the heat, the heat makes me miserably tired and quick to
wear out doding just about everything, and my case of MS is not
terribly severe. Some people with MS have extreme intolerance to hot
weather!

John Kuthe...

"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 09:57:29 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>>On 7/4/2015 9:07 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Quite a different story. Anyway, the residents knew the rule,
>>> they bought the wrong kind of A/C anyway. So if enough residents
>>> don't like the rule, they need to get together, figure out how to
>>> change the rule, and do that.
>>>
>>> Or get the kind of a/c permitted and retain the nice appearance
>>> of their development.
>>>
>>> nancy
>>
>>Yea, but. . .
>>
>>While you are technically correct, the circumstances are a bit unusual.
>> Hotter than normal weather hit the area. AC was not needed in that
>>area in the past. The portable type of AC may not have been readily
>>available at the time.
>>
>>Are you going to deny comfort to an 85 year old resident that is able to
>>get a $150 room AC for relief? I bet a few residents could get a doctor
>>to claim it was an emergency medical necessity.
>>
>>I'd stick it in a back window and screw the HOA. OTOH, I'd never live in
>>a place with an HOA in the first place.
>
> For example, someone like me with MS. People with MS are particularly
> sensitive to the heat, the heat makes me miserably tired and quick to
> wear out doding just about everything, and my case of MS is not
> terribly severe. Some people with MS have extreme intolerance to hot
> weather!
>
> John Kuthe...

That's the thing! Last summer we really had little to no hot weather. It
did get hot but more towards fall. And then we had some bitter cold weather
early on and a very mild spring. Most years there is little to no need for
AC at all. Which is why most people don't put in central air or even
ductless. That's a lot of expense for something that would rarely get used.
I have been told that most new houses here do have AC. I guess it is
cheaper to just put it in along with everything else.

On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 09:07:05 -0400, Nancy Young
> wrote:

>On 7/3/2015 8:53 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Fri, 3 Jul 2015 17:04:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I really can't believe this! Auburn (city near here) residents will be
>>>> fined $30 per day if they use window AC.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/mess...and-you/nmq6s/
>>
>> As usual, you have bent the truth to make your gripe (which doesn't
>> even concern you) more dramatic. This is a HOA, *not* the City of
>> Auburn.
>
>Quite a different story. Anyway, the residents knew the rule,
>they bought the wrong kind of A/C anyway. So if enough residents
>don't like the rule, they need to get together, figure out how to
>change the rule, and do that.
>
>Or get the kind of a/c permitted and retain the nice appearance
>of their development.
>
>nancy

From the article:
___
Kerri Fulks is a spokesperson for Lakeland Homeowners Association.

“I understand that it’s hot, but there are other units they could
purchase that would not be in violation,” said Fulks, though when
asked over the phone, she couldn’t name one.

“We absolutely want them to stay cool,” said Fulks.
___

So Kerri Fulks says there are "other units they could purchase that
would not be in violation" but she can't name any? HA!!

Sounds like a badly writtren rule! Needs to be changed. People write
the rules, we can also change them. Nothing is written in stone
anymore!

John Kuthe...

"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 09:07:05 -0400, Nancy Young
> > wrote:
>
>>On 7/3/2015 8:53 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 3 Jul 2015 17:04:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I really can't believe this! Auburn (city near here) residents will
>>>>> be
>>>>> fined $30 per day if they use window AC.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/mess...and-you/nmq6s/
>>>
>>> As usual, you have bent the truth to make your gripe (which doesn't
>>> even concern you) more dramatic. This is a HOA, *not* the City of
>>> Auburn.
>>
>>Quite a different story. Anyway, the residents knew the rule,
>>they bought the wrong kind of A/C anyway. So if enough residents
>>don't like the rule, they need to get together, figure out how to
>>change the rule, and do that.
>>
>>Or get the kind of a/c permitted and retain the nice appearance
>>of their development.
>>
>>nancy
>
> From the article:
> ___
> Kerri Fulks is a spokesperson for Lakeland Homeowners Association.
>
> "I understand that it's hot, but there are other units they could
> purchase that would not be in violation," said Fulks, though when
> asked over the phone, she couldn't name one.
>
> "We absolutely want them to stay cool," said Fulks.
> ___
>
> So Kerri Fulks says there are "other units they could purchase that
> would not be in violation" but she can't name any? HA!!
>
> Sounds like a badly writtren rule! Needs to be changed. People write
> the rules, we can also change them. Nothing is written in stone
> anymore!
>
> John Kuthe...

What, the HOA has to lead the violators by the nose to buy a permissible
unit? I know there are NON-WINDOW HVAC units, but I don't know what they
are offhand. Not my job.

On 7/3/2015 7:04 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> I really can't believe this! Auburn (city near here) residents will be
> fined $30 per day if they use window AC.
>
> http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/mess...and-you/nmq6s/
>
A perfect example of a HOA running amok.

--
DreadfulBitch

I'm a nobody, nobody is perfect, therefore I'm perfect.

On Friday, July 3, 2015 at 3:04:40 PM UTC-10, DreadfulBitch wrote:
> On 7/3/2015 7:04 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > I really can't believe this! Auburn (city near here) residents will be
> > fined $30 per day if they use window AC.
> >
> > http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/mess...and-you/nmq6s/
> >
> A perfect example of a HOA running amok.
>
> --
> DreadfulBitch
>
> I'm a nobody, nobody is perfect, therefore I'm perfect.

Petty, vindictive, unimaginative, inflexible, and into other people's business - but enough about RFC... Hee hee hee.

The Board of Directors for the HOA is charged with enforcing the rules and restrictions of the condo. It's their duty to act in a responsible manner. If I was on the board, I'd come up with some way to defer any action for a few months. There's all kinds of ways to do this. Create a panel to suggestion suitable AC units for the condo. Condo boards that lack imagination and heart are a real drag.

On 7/4/2015 12:21 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Friday, July 3, 2015 at 3:04:40 PM UTC-10, DreadfulBitch wrote:
>> On 7/3/2015 7:04 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> I really can't believe this! Auburn (city near here) residents will be
>>> fined $30 per day if they use window AC.
>>>
>>> http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/mess...and-you/nmq6s/
>>>
>> A perfect example of a HOA running amok.
>>
>> --
>> DreadfulBitch
>>
>> I'm a nobody, nobody is perfect, therefore I'm perfect.
>
> Petty, vindictive, unimaginative, inflexible, and into other people's business - but enough about RFC... Hee hee hee.
>
> The Board of Directors for the HOA is charged with enforcing the rules and restrictions of the condo. It's their duty to act in a responsible manner. If I was on the board, I'd come up with some way to defer any action for a few months. There's all kinds of ways to do this. Create a panel to suggestion suitable AC units for the condo. Condo boards that lack imagination and heart are a real drag.
>

Nicely analyzed and dealt with.

You sound like you ARE on a condo board...

On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 8:39:50 AM UTC-10, Acme Bully Control wrote:
> On 7/4/2015 12:21 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Friday, July 3, 2015 at 3:04:40 PM UTC-10, DreadfulBitch wrote:
> >> On 7/3/2015 7:04 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >>> I really can't believe this! Auburn (city near here) residents will be
> >>> fined $30 per day if they use window AC.
> >>>
> >>> http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/mess...and-you/nmq6s/
> >>>
> >> A perfect example of a HOA running amok.
> >>
> >> --
> >> DreadfulBitch
> >>
> >> I'm a nobody, nobody is perfect, therefore I'm perfect.
> >
> > Petty, vindictive, unimaginative, inflexible, and into other people's business - but enough about RFC... Hee hee hee.
> >
> > The Board of Directors for the HOA is charged with enforcing the rules and restrictions of the condo. It's their duty to act in a responsible manner. If I was on the board, I'd come up with some way to defer any action for a few months. There's all kinds of ways to do this. Create a panel to suggestion suitable AC units for the condo. Condo boards that lack imagination and heart are a real drag.
> >
>
> Nicely analyzed and dealt with.
>
> You sound like you ARE on a condo board...

I was for a couple of years. At the last meeting of the HOA during my term, we had to pay the cops to do the security detail. We filled an entire school auditorium. You might say we shook up heaven and earth. Sometimes, doing the right thing will upset people. That's the breaks.

On 7/4/2015 12:59 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 8:39:50 AM UTC-10, Acme Bully Control wrote:
>> On 7/4/2015 12:21 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>> On Friday, July 3, 2015 at 3:04:40 PM UTC-10, DreadfulBitch wrote:
>>>> On 7/3/2015 7:04 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>> I really can't believe this! Auburn (city near here) residents will be
>>>>> fined $30 per day if they use window AC.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/mess...and-you/nmq6s/
>>>>>
>>>> A perfect example of a HOA running amok.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> DreadfulBitch
>>>>
>>>> I'm a nobody, nobody is perfect, therefore I'm perfect.
>>>
>>> Petty, vindictive, unimaginative, inflexible, and into other people's business - but enough about RFC... Hee hee hee.
>>>
>>> The Board of Directors for the HOA is charged with enforcing the rules and restrictions of the condo. It's their duty to act in a responsible manner. If I was on the board, I'd come up with some way to defer any action for a few months. There's all kinds of ways to do this. Create a panel to suggestion suitable AC units for the condo. Condo boards that lack imagination and heart are a real drag.
>>>
>>
>> Nicely analyzed and dealt with.
>>
>> You sound like you ARE on a condo board...
>
> I was for a couple of years. At the last meeting of the HOA during my term, we had to pay the cops to do the security detail. We filled an entire school auditorium. You might say we shook up heaven and earth. Sometimes, doing the right thing will upset people. That's the breaks.
>

Digging that my man, digging that!

"The Other Guy" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 03 Jul 2015 20:04:30 -0500, DreadfulBitch
> > wrote:
>
>>On 7/3/2015 7:04 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> I really can't believe this! Auburn (city near here) residents will be
>>> fined $30 per day if they use window AC.
>>>
>>> http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/mess...and-you/nmq6s/
>>>
>>A perfect example of a HOA running amok.
>
> Here in California, we are in an extreme drought situation.
> The State has mandated extreme conservation measures, and
> many cities are trying to get people to replace grass lawns
> with drought tolerant landscaping, OR artificial turf.
>
> Some HOAs were fining home-owners for replacing their lawns.
> It went so far that the State passed a law prohibiting them
> from fining people. Just signed by the Governor a day ago.
>
> http://www.nbcsandiego.com/video/#!/...awns/276226541

The first artificial turf I saw outside of a sports area or driving range
was in CA. Some people here are looking into that because we too have
drought.

When we were house hunting, we saw a house near here that had no lawn
whatever in the back. Just a series of plantings, cement and rocks. My
husband liked it because he wouldn't have to mow much. The front yard was
small and mostly cement. I guess if done right, things like that can look
nice. I just didn't think this did. House was owned by an elderly German
couple and there were lawn gnomes everywhere. And with Angela being little,
I wanted a place for her to play.

On 7/4/2015 1:11 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "The Other Guy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Fri, 03 Jul 2015 20:04:30 -0500, DreadfulBitch
>> <nothankyou@nobodyishomenmq6s/
>>>>
>>>>
>>> A perfect example of a HOA running amok.
>>
>> Here in California, we are in an extreme drought situation.
>> The Staial turf.
>>
>> Some HOAs were fining home-owners for replacing their lawns.
>> It went so far that the State passed -Lawns/276226541
>>
>
> The first artificial turf I saw outside of a sports area or driving
> range t because we too
> have drought.
>
> When we were house hunting, we saw a house near here that had no lawn
> whatever in the back. Just a series of plantings, cement and rocks. My
> husband liked it because he wouldn't have to mow much. The front yard
> was small and mostly cement. I guess if done right, things like that
> can look nice. I just didn't think this did. House was owned by an
> elderly German couple and there were lawn gnomes everywhere. And with
> Angela being little, I wanted a place for her to play.

Not with those gnomes I hope! They use their pointy hats to pop
cherries. Watch out!!

On 7/4/2015 2:00 AM, Troll Disposal Service wrote:
> On 7/4/2015 1:11 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "The Other Guy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Fri, 03 Jul 2015 20:04:30 -0500, DreadfulBitch
>>> <nothankyou@nobodyishomenmq6s/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> A perfect example of a HOA running amok.
>>>
>>> Here in California, we are in an extreme drought situation.
>>> The Staial turf.
>>>
>>> Some HOAs were fining home-owners for replacing their lawns.
>>> It went so far that the State passed -Lawns/276226541
>>>
>>
>> The first artificial turf I saw outside of a sports area or driving
>> range t because we too
>> have drought.
>>
>> When we were house hunting, we saw a house near here that had no lawn
>> whatever in the back. Just a series of plantings, cement and rocks. My
>> husband liked it because he wouldn't have to mow much. The front yard
>> was small and mostly cement. I guess if done right, things like that
>> can look nice. I just didn't think this did. House was owned by an
>> elderly German couple and there were lawn gnomes everywhere. And with
>> Angela being little, I wanted a place for her to play.
>
> Not with those gnomes I hope! They use their pointy hats to pop
> cherries. Watch out!!
One more fraud.

Aioe.org NNTP Server

On 7/3/2015 11:11 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> The first artificial turf I saw outside of a sports area or driving
> range was in CA. Some people here are looking into that because we too
> have drought.
>
> When we were house hunting, we saw a house near here that had no lawn
> whatever in the back. Just a series of plantings, cement and rocks. My
> husband liked it because he wouldn't have to mow much. The front yard
> was small and mostly cement. I guess if done right, things like that
> can look nice. I just didn't think this did. House was owned by an
> elderly German couple and there were lawn gnomes everywhere. And with
> Angela being little, I wanted a place for her to play.

One of my sister's previous homes had the entire backyard covered with
mulch. Seemed like a fire hazard to me, but at least they didn't have to
mow it.

--
ღ.¸¸.œ«*¨`*œ¶
Cheryl

On 7/5/2015 10:08 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 7/3/2015 11:11 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> The first artificial turf I saw outside of a sports area or driving
>> range was in CA. Some people here are looking into that because we too
>> have drought.
>>
>> When we were house hunting, we saw a house near here that had no lawn
>> whatever in the back. Just a series of plantings, cement and rocks. My
>> husband liked it because he wouldn't have to mow much. The front yard
>> was small and mostly cement. I guess if done right, things like that
>> can look nice. I just didn't think this did. House was owned by an
>> elderly German couple and there were lawn gnomes everywhere. And with
>> Angela being little, I wanted a place for her to play.
>
> One of my sister's previous homes had the entire backyard covered with
> mulch. Seemed like a fire hazard to me, but at least they didn't have to
> mow it.
>
Around here people are very fond of pine straw, generally around
bushes/planting areas but some also use it for a portion of their yard.
They are constantly having to replenish & replace it. To me it looks
like someone just shook a dead pine tree over their yard. Not very
attractive.

Jill

On Tue, 07 Jul 2015 11:25:48 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:


snip
>>
>Around here people are very fond of pine straw, generally around
>bushes/planting areas but some also use it for a portion of their yard.
> They are constantly having to replenish & replace it. To me it looks
>like someone just shook a dead pine tree over their yard. Not very
>attractive.
>
>Jill

I thought of stacks of hay It does do the job and gets rid of
litter.
Janet US

"Julie Bove" > wrote:
> "The Other Guy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Fri, 03 Jul 2015 20:04:30 -0500, DreadfulBitch
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/3/2015 7:04 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> I really can't believe this! Auburn (city near here) residents will be
>>>> fined $30 per day if they use window AC.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/mess...and-you/nmq6s/
>>>>
>>> A perfect example of a HOA running amok.
>>
>> Here in California, we are in an extreme drought situation.
>> The State has mandated extreme conservation measures, and
>> many cities are trying to get people to replace grass lawns
>> with drought tolerant landscaping, OR artificial turf.
>>
>> Some HOAs were fining home-owners for replacing their lawns.
>> It went so far that the State passed a law prohibiting them
>> from fining people. Just signed by the Governor a day ago.
>>
>> http://www.nbcsandiego.com/video/#!/...awns/276226541
>
> The first artificial turf I saw outside of a sports area or driving range
> was in CA. Some people here are looking into that because we too have drought.
>
> When we were house hunting, we saw a house near here that had no lawn
> whatever in the back. Just a series of plantings, cement and rocks. My
> husband liked it because he wouldn't have to mow much. The front yard
> was small and mostly cement. I guess if done right, things like that can
> look nice. I just didn't think this did. House was owned by an elderly
> German couple and there were lawn gnomes everywhere. And with Angela
> being little, I wanted a place for her to play.

Look nice but gets hot. Contributes to global warming.


Greg

On 7/9/2015 12:53 AM, gregz wrote:
> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>> "The Other Guy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Fri, 03 Jul 2015 20:04:30 -0500, DreadfulBitch
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 7/3/2015 7:04 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>> I really can't believe this! Auburn (city near here) residents will be
>>>>> fined $30 per day if they use window AC.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/mess...and-you/nmq6s/
>>>>>
>>>> A perfect example of a HOA running amok.
>>>
>>> Here in California, we are in an extreme drought situation.
>>> The State has mandated extreme conservation measures, and
>>> many cities are trying to get people to replace grass lawns
>>> with drought tolerant landscaping, OR artificial turf.
>>>
>>> Some HOAs were fining home-owners for replacing their lawns.
>>> It went so far that the State passed a law prohibiting them
>>> from fining people. Just signed by the Governor a day ago.
>>>
>>> http://www.nbcsandiego.com/video/#!/...awns/276226541
>>
>> The first artificial turf I saw outside of a sports area or driving range
>> was in CA. Some people here are looking into that because we too have drought.
>>
>> When we were house hunting, we saw a house near here that had no lawn
>> whatever in the back. Just a series of plantings, cement and rocks. My
>> husband liked it because he wouldn't have to mow much. The front yard
>> was small and mostly cement. I guess if done right, things like that can
>> look nice. I just didn't think this did. House was owned by an elderly
>> German couple and there were lawn gnomes everywhere. And with Angela
>> being little, I wanted a place for her to play.
>
> Look nice but gets hot. Contributes to global warming.
>
>
> Greg
>


Lawns contribute to regional water shortages.

I'll take the slight warming.

On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 10:42:39 AM UTC-4, Acme Bully Control wrote:

> Lawns contribute to regional water shortages.

Not my lawn. It's a pleasant mix of various weeds and grass.
The only time I water is when I'm reseeding an area after some
project has stripped it to bare dirt.

If it's green and flat, it's a lawn.

Cindy Hamilton